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	<title>Comments on: Spider-Man 4: Willem Dafoe&#8217;s Green Goblin is Done</title>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 22:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the comics, the goblin was somehow trapped in another dimension.  That could explain his reappearances. If there are more movies, there is plenty of room for Dafoe to keep haunting Spidey or even coming back. Any excuse to put Dafoe in your movie, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the comics, the goblin was somehow trapped in another dimension.  That could explain his reappearances. If there are more movies, there is plenty of room for Dafoe to keep haunting Spidey or even coming back. Any excuse to put Dafoe in your movie, right?</p>
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		<title>By: rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you guys are funny

if 4 does extremely well then raime and tobey are coming back. i do mean extremely (iron-man) well though.
and thats the bottom line.</description>
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<p>if 4 does extremely well then raime and tobey are coming back. i do mean extremely (iron-man) well though.<br />
and thats the bottom line.</p>
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		<title>By: Spider-Man 4 Villain Is&#8230;Black Cat? - Screen Rant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spider-Man 4 Villain Is&#8230;Black Cat? - Screen Rant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] were Bruce Campbell as Mysterio, Dr. Connors (Dylan Baker) as The Lizard and the possibility of William Defoe returning as Green Goblin.With Sam Raimi receiving complete control over Spider-Man 4 (unlike Spider-Man 3) he has decided to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] were Bruce Campbell as Mysterio, Dr. Connors (Dylan Baker) as The Lizard and the possibility of William Defoe returning as Green Goblin.With Sam Raimi receiving complete control over Spider-Man 4 (unlike Spider-Man 3) he has decided to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: spiderman</title>
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		<dc:creator>spiderman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 21:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what happened to the rumor abotu morbius being the main bad guy in the new film</description>
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		<title>By: Darren seeley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darren seeley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay. Let&#039;s get this baggage out of the way:

1) In one of the commentaries, it is mentioned that Willem Dafoe is in the niteclub, although just as an extra and not as &quot;Norman&quot;. He is slightly out of focus. Willem Dafoe did reprise his past role for the ghost/mirror/hallucination scene as he did in Spider-Man 2.

2) Paris Hilton is not in the classroom.

3) I would actually want to see Joe Manganiello reprise Flash Thompson (it was the actor as the character at the end of the last film) to some extent, and get the &quot;friendly rivalry&quot; aspect of the friendship with Peter Parker going, as it happens in the comics.

As for Dafoe &quot;returning&quot; in Spider-Man 4, the answer is pretty unlikely. The Goblin arc is complete, even if someone named Roderick Kingsley came by and took over OsCorp, he would not be haunted by The Ghost Of Norman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay. Let&#8217;s get this baggage out of the way:</p>
<p>1) In one of the commentaries, it is mentioned that Willem Dafoe is in the niteclub, although just as an extra and not as &#8220;Norman&#8221;. He is slightly out of focus. Willem Dafoe did reprise his past role for the ghost/mirror/hallucination scene as he did in Spider-Man 2.</p>
<p>2) Paris Hilton is not in the classroom.</p>
<p>3) I would actually want to see Joe Manganiello reprise Flash Thompson (it was the actor as the character at the end of the last film) to some extent, and get the &#8220;friendly rivalry&#8221; aspect of the friendship with Peter Parker going, as it happens in the comics.</p>
<p>As for Dafoe &#8220;returning&#8221; in Spider-Man 4, the answer is pretty unlikely. The Goblin arc is complete, even if someone named Roderick Kingsley came by and took over OsCorp, he would not be haunted by The Ghost Of Norman.</p>
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		<title>By: chrisj</title>
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		<dc:creator>chrisj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Sin
I dont know about the comics, but in the 90&#039;s animated series Harry was put away to get mental help that he needed. After Peter won MJ back he crashed their wedding because without MJ he believe he had nobody. Especially since he hated Peter at that sametime. In the end, Liz who is one of MJ&#039;s friends always had alittle crush on him and thought of him being too lonely and she convinced him that MJ loved Peter and he had to come to terms with it and finally told him how she hoped he could have a future with her. And he voluntered to go back to get help that he need, knowing someone besides MJ cared about him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Sin<br />
I dont know about the comics, but in the 90&#8217;s animated series Harry was put away to get mental help that he needed. After Peter won MJ back he crashed their wedding because without MJ he believe he had nobody. Especially since he hated Peter at that sametime. In the end, Liz who is one of MJ&#8217;s friends always had alittle crush on him and thought of him being too lonely and she convinced him that MJ loved Peter and he had to come to terms with it and finally told him how she hoped he could have a future with her. And he voluntered to go back to get help that he need, knowing someone besides MJ cared about him.</p>
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		<title>By: Sin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, I have a question for anyone who can answer it.
In the comics/cartoons, did Harry ever die? I don&#039;t remember that personally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I have a question for anyone who can answer it.<br />
In the comics/cartoons, did Harry ever die? I don&#8217;t remember that personally.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Keyes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Keyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 790,

I&#039;m pretty sure Four is by itself now, no?

Initially the contract talk was for 4 &amp; 5 together but I thought it came down to one movie ... plus a different writer is currently working on 5 &amp; 6 as interconnected movies so I don&#039;t think 4 &amp; 5 are together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 790,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure Four is by itself now, no?</p>
<p>Initially the contract talk was for 4 &amp; 5 together but I thought it came down to one movie &#8230; plus a different writer is currently working on 5 &amp; 6 as interconnected movies so I don&#8217;t think 4 &amp; 5 are together.</p>
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		<title>By: BRAVEHEART</title>
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		<dc:creator>BRAVEHEART</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 16:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Batman movies were crap after Keaton - Superhero movies should always use these bad movies as perfect examples of how &#039;not&#039; to make &#039;em !!!
As for the next Spidey movies...after waiting all this time..they better deliver one hell of a movie!!! But you kind of get the feeling that they don&#039;t know where they&#039;re going with it yet!...makes you worry!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Batman movies were crap after Keaton &#8211; Superhero movies should always use these bad movies as perfect examples of how &#8216;not&#8217; to make &#8216;em !!!<br />
As for the next Spidey movies&#8230;after waiting all this time..they better deliver one hell of a movie!!! But you kind of get the feeling that they don&#8217;t know where they&#8217;re going with it yet!&#8230;makes you worry!!!</p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i want harry osborn back</description>
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		<title>By: the old man</title>
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		<dc:creator>the old man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 04:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Big D and I hope tone wise, Raimi is headed in that direction! Thanks for the compliment by the way. Projects like SeaOrbiter are good first steps in redefining what a human habitat can be like. Once an equatorial community develops and a self sustaining colony forms, the knowledge and resources we&#039;ll gain will allows us to take the next step on the road to populating the Galaxy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Big D and I hope tone wise, Raimi is headed in that direction! Thanks for the compliment by the way. Projects like SeaOrbiter are good first steps in redefining what a human habitat can be like. Once an equatorial community develops and a self sustaining colony forms, the knowledge and resources we&#8217;ll gain will allows us to take the next step on the road to populating the Galaxy.</p>
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		<title>By: M-Cat</title>
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		<dc:creator>M-Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 03:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Imdb is wrong 75% of the time. Not a good source to go by at all. All the statements should say rumor after them because that&#039;s all it&#039;s good for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imdb is wrong 75% of the time. Not a good source to go by at all. All the statements should say rumor after them because that&#8217;s all it&#8217;s good for.</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 02:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go to IMDB&#039;S Spiderman 3 trivia, it says Willem Dafoe is sitting behind Peter and Gwen at the Jazz club,if you haven&#039;t heard Tobey Maguire has been paid 50,000,000 and given family time(early evenings and mornings to spend with his wife and daughter)to star in Spiderman 4 and 5, both are even featured in his IMDB page, it&#039;s a done deal, and I think Dafoe did a fantastic job in Spiderman and wouldn&#039;t mind a 4th cameo ( mirror apparition in 2 and 3,in jazz club, part 3.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go to IMDB&#8217;S Spiderman 3 trivia, it says Willem Dafoe is sitting behind Peter and Gwen at the Jazz club,if you haven&#8217;t heard Tobey Maguire has been paid 50,000,000 and given family time(early evenings and mornings to spend with his wife and daughter)to star in Spiderman 4 and 5, both are even featured in his IMDB page, it&#8217;s a done deal, and I think Dafoe did a fantastic job in Spiderman and wouldn&#8217;t mind a 4th cameo ( mirror apparition in 2 and 3,in jazz club, part 3.)</p>
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		<title>By: The Big Dentist</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Big Dentist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 01:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Old man, I have to say you link to some really offbeat and entertaining sites.  That one and the two you posted on the Pyro thread: like &#039;em.  I think you&#039;re right if they go with the Lizard - keep it shadowy as possible so at least half the work&#039;s done in the audience&#039;s head (and the idea KCJ506 related on the &quot;Lizard Only Villain?&quot; thread about the Lizard operating in a citywide blackout caused by Electro certainly works for me).  The Thing still plays on the mind now because of both John Carpenter&#039;s exemplary use of light and shade, and the awareness you have of the transformed humanity underlying the grotesque abominations he depicted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Old man, I have to say you link to some really offbeat and entertaining sites.  That one and the two you posted on the Pyro thread: like &#8216;em.  I think you&#8217;re right if they go with the Lizard &#8211; keep it shadowy as possible so at least half the work&#8217;s done in the audience&#8217;s head (and the idea KCJ506 related on the &#8220;Lizard Only Villain?&#8221; thread about the Lizard operating in a citywide blackout caused by Electro certainly works for me).  The Thing still plays on the mind now because of both John Carpenter&#8217;s exemplary use of light and shade, and the awareness you have of the transformed humanity underlying the grotesque abominations he depicted.</p>
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		<title>By: Magnetic Eye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Magnetic Eye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 00:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand that contracts have been signed and money paid for Raimi and Maguire, but personally I would love to see a total reboot of The Spiderman franchise.

Let Sam Raimi finish up with Spiderman 4. He has done a great job thus far considering the hassles he went through with Spiderman 3.

I would love to see a new director and cast breathe some fresh ideas into the Spiderman franchise. Some here have mentioned a mature treatment of the script.

I agree that a little more realism in the acting and some gritty  hardcore fast paced action sequences would be awesome.

I’m still going to dream on and suggest James Cameron, Steven Spielberg, or Ridley Scott as possible candidates for future films. Other suggestions include: Paul Greengrass, Louis Leterrier or Doug Liman.

And furthermore as much as I think Kirsten Dunst and Toby Maguire are talented actors, I have never really taken to them as Peter Parker &amp; Mary Jane.

Sure they played their roles well, but IMHO I find Tobey Maguire TOO short, TOO goofy looking and TOO nerdy in his acting as Peter Parker; and Kirsten Dunst was NOT as vivacious, or as uninhibted and perky as the MJ from the comic books.

Just check out ASM issue # 601 - 603 to see what I mean. In fact you could check out any issue of Amazing Spiderman.

Personally, I would have preferred a Gwen Stacey story line with MJ added a couple of movies down the track after the Green Goblin kills off Stacey (or is that being too nostalgic)?

Even though I’m probably in the minority here, I for one would welcome a total reboot of the Spiderman franchise with a new director and a new cast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand that contracts have been signed and money paid for Raimi and Maguire, but personally I would love to see a total reboot of The Spiderman franchise.</p>
<p>Let Sam Raimi finish up with Spiderman 4. He has done a great job thus far considering the hassles he went through with Spiderman 3.</p>
<p>I would love to see a new director and cast breathe some fresh ideas into the Spiderman franchise. Some here have mentioned a mature treatment of the script.</p>
<p>I agree that a little more realism in the acting and some gritty  hardcore fast paced action sequences would be awesome.</p>
<p>I’m still going to dream on and suggest James Cameron, Steven Spielberg, or Ridley Scott as possible candidates for future films. Other suggestions include: Paul Greengrass, Louis Leterrier or Doug Liman.</p>
<p>And furthermore as much as I think Kirsten Dunst and Toby Maguire are talented actors, I have never really taken to them as Peter Parker &amp; Mary Jane.</p>
<p>Sure they played their roles well, but IMHO I find Tobey Maguire TOO short, TOO goofy looking and TOO nerdy in his acting as Peter Parker; and Kirsten Dunst was NOT as vivacious, or as uninhibted and perky as the MJ from the comic books.</p>
<p>Just check out ASM issue # 601 &#8211; 603 to see what I mean. In fact you could check out any issue of Amazing Spiderman.</p>
<p>Personally, I would have preferred a Gwen Stacey story line with MJ added a couple of movies down the track after the Green Goblin kills off Stacey (or is that being too nostalgic)?</p>
<p>Even though I’m probably in the minority here, I for one would welcome a total reboot of the Spiderman franchise with a new director and a new cast.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Boogeyman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay Boogeyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no no you have it all wrong, Sam dropped out, Rob ZOmbie is going to film spiderman 4, and its going to be Spiderman teamming up with the F.Four and the thing is going to help spiderman with Dr. Doom and H. Goblin...
Nah, just cool everyones jets, and wait and see. Its to far to know, or care right now... geeeeeeeez</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no no you have it all wrong, Sam dropped out, Rob ZOmbie is going to film spiderman 4, and its going to be Spiderman teamming up with the F.Four and the thing is going to help spiderman with Dr. Doom and H. Goblin&#8230;<br />
Nah, just cool everyones jets, and wait and see. Its to far to know, or care right now&#8230; geeeeeeeez</p>
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		<title>By: the old man</title>
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		<dc:creator>the old man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 09:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep him in the shadows, when they finally bring him out it will have to be Bottin like, just cutting edge real!
Check this site, hopefully it&#039;s late at night where your at...

http://www.outpost31.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep him in the shadows, when they finally bring him out it will have to be Bottin like, just cutting edge real!<br />
Check this site, hopefully it&#8217;s late at night where your at&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.outpost31.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.outpost31.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: chrisj</title>
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		<dc:creator>chrisj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 09:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought they decided to shoot Spider-man 5 &amp; 6 back to back after seeing how well Spider-man 4 does? Im curious on how they&#039;re gonna pull off the Lizard. Hopfully they can make him work better than what they did with Venom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought they decided to shoot Spider-man 5 &amp; 6 back to back after seeing how well Spider-man 4 does? Im curious on how they&#8217;re gonna pull off the Lizard. Hopfully they can make him work better than what they did with Venom.</p>
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		<title>By: the old man</title>
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		<dc:creator>the old man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 08:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know something I&#039;m beginning not to care who they put with Lizard, just get us the Lizard already. The creepy potential is enormous and with Spider-Man in the mix you just know it will be good. 

Bring on the finally in the sewers I&#039;m ready... ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know something I&#8217;m beginning not to care who they put with Lizard, just get us the Lizard already. The creepy potential is enormous and with Spider-Man in the mix you just know it will be good. </p>
<p>Bring on the finally in the sewers I&#8217;m ready&#8230; <img src='http://screenrant.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: paulie412</title>
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		<dc:creator>paulie412</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 07:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should rename this article to something less concrete. The title, &quot;Spider-Man 4: Willem Dafoe’s Green Goblin is Done,&quot; makes it sound like you have a direct quote from someone stating that he won&#039;t be back; and you don&#039;t. This article is based on nothing more than your opinion. False advertisement...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should rename this article to something less concrete. The title, &#8220;Spider-Man 4: Willem Dafoe’s Green Goblin is Done,&#8221; makes it sound like you have a direct quote from someone stating that he won&#8217;t be back; and you don&#8217;t. This article is based on nothing more than your opinion. False advertisement&#8230;</p>
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