Sam Raimi, Director of all movies in the Spiderman franchise, spoke in the latest issue of Empire magazine and told them who he’d like to be the featured nemesis of Peter Parker’s alter ego in Spider-Man 4.
“I like it in the Marvel comics when Spider-Man fights Morbius,” said Raimi. “He’s really cool. A vampire! I like that combination of superhero plus supernatural.”
After Spider-Man 3, it was assumed by many that The Lizard would play a major role if there was to be another sequel as he was featured as an important secondary character in the movie playing a mentor-type role to Peter Parker in that film.
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It would make sense to see The Lizard and Morbius as the two villains as they would work well together in the same film having had quite a bit of history together in the Spider-Man comics. On top of that, they share obvious similarities: Both are/were doctors, both work with different animals for their experiments and both achieved power from the same method.
Dr. Curt Connors (The Lizard) had his arm amputated due to an injury sustained by a blast while being a military surgeon. Later in life he studied the limb-regenerative capabilities of lizards and long story short, he turned into a humanoid-lizard hybrid.
Dr. Michael Morbius on the other hand, was a Nobel Prize-winning biochemist who suffered from a rare blood disease. Using experiments involving vampire bats and electroshock therapy, he ended up with super strength some side-effects similar to that of Vampirism and now he must drink blood from his victims.
I think this is a great idea for the next Spider-Man movie and if done right, can make up for the mess that was Spider-Man 3. This time they can focus on two characters and the film can be darker-themed with the nature of the characters involved. That being said, I’m getting a little tired of all of the Spidey villains partly redeeming themselves at the end and not being truly bad. That applies for both of these characters who are not entirely bad guys.
We should also not forget that Vampirism is definitely a current hot topic with the success of the Twilight books and movie which is turning into a series of films as well as the True Blood HBO series which is pre-production for a second season.
What do you think of The Lizard and Morbius making their big screen debuts?
Spider-Man 4 brings together Tobey Maguire and Sam Raimi yet again, and is expected to hit theatres in 2011.
Source: /Film
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Im honestly starting to hate this darker and more real crap. How is a kid whos DNA was transformed by a genetically altered spider, real? I know, I know. Just ranting.
And I agree on the Rhino, soon as ya said it. All of the sudden I saw Juggy telling spidy hes the Juggernaut bitch.
After the disappointment of Spidey 3 I really have been looking forward to this one just because hopefully we would have the lizard in the 4th installment. To hear that Morbius might be in it too just makes my day. I see some very good fight scenes with these 2 villians,im just praying to not have a similar disappointment like spidey 3. The way they butchered the villians in the last one made me wanna crawl in a corner in horror
I can really picture the Lizard and Morbius fighting each other before they finally team up. A three way battle at first and then Spidey being double teamed would make it very intresting since Spidey no longer has anyone to back him up.
I really wish that they didnt go with the whole dark and realism thing. As much as some of these other movies pulled it off very well, I liked the change that Spidey brought. I think it would be impossible to have spidey be real anyways, you dont hear about highschoolers getting bit by radioactive spiders and then haveing super powers like someone else mentioned. If thats what works best for the movie then I say go for it but lets stick to how spidey was before and not turn it into some dark creepy movie. We got are fill from TDK. lets not fix what isnt broken.
@Zach
lol! that was what I was thinking too.
Spiderman 4? Dear God not again!
@ Jess,
I can see The Lizard teaming up with Spidey against Morbius as that happened once in the comics, and I can see your theory occurring too.
Assuming both characters will in fact be in the movie, maybe both events will happen
I gave up after Spidey3. I’m done.
(actually 1/2 way through Spiderman3)
I grew up a fan of Spiderman from the early 70’s and the original Amazing Spiderman ala Ralph Bakshi animation.
Yes, there are great ideas and villains galore as all of you have stated but I’m done hoping.
Because not matter what they come up with to blow our skirts up they’ll still give us Kirsten Dunst.
This franchise is in desperate need of a ‘reboot’. It worked for Batman and it looks like it’s gonna work for Terminator..
Alright, Few things:
1) I am apparently one of the few who did not despise Spider-Man 3. Do I think Venom could have shown up at the end of he film so he could start a new story arc for the next three films? Darn right. Do I think Sandman was underused? No question. But you will never get me saying Spidey 3 was a pile of dung. It just isn’t better than 2.
2) I’m on the fence here in regards to Morbius, but in a ‘good’ way. While I’d much rather see a solo film (set in the early 70’s) I’d just as love to see him battle Spidey. There are many pluses with the character. However, I also have to agree on the ‘vampires in vouge’ issue. Indeed- even Sam produced 30 Days Of Night!
Also, Morby is a villain who is slightly sympathetic, and had turned into something of a hero/anti hero, esp. when he teamed with Midnight Sons, which is also whiile I favor a solo Morby movie. See, if Marvel can do Avengers…convince Sony to pull out a Morby film, then Doc Strange. We already have Ghost Rider…okay, enough of that.
3) Morb isn’t supernatural, but made through science. Even so, we are still keeping a PG-13 rating, I’m sure.
4) I totally agree with having a bad guy who is a bad guy from start to finish. No grey area. No redeeming social value. He just wants to cause problems. The Scorpion would be high on my list, as would Kraven.
This can work, as long as the picture has a long run time to justify the characters! So much history between these characters it cannot be rushed, like Venom in S-M3.
However, having Morbius as a villain just because ‘Vampires’ are in vogue is just silly…but, it would be great battle scenes between Spidey, Lizard and Morbius (wire work & cgi).
@Jess H.
Here is the good thing about Spider-Man, here is a character than can be balanced with Light and Dark settings. Spider-Man has fantasy villains and street level, gritty villains. Therefore, going in a creepy and dark direction is not out of the norm to the Spider-man character!
I hope they team Spidey with Lizard and have Morbius as the major villain but no matter which villain they choose I will definitely watch Spiderman 4.
My favorite villain would be the Shocker but if they want to follow the Batman thing it will probably bee Morbius with or without the Lizard.
It can’t be worse than SM3. So maybe I’ll see it.
The spiderman films are absolutley brilliant and ive heard all the speculation over whether there will be a fourth and if there is sam will not be directing it therefore tobey and kirsten will not be appearing but i just really hope they stick around because it is the cast what make a lot of films and if they change that now at number 4 it just wont be the same by any standards. i love films and hopefully one day i will be working in the industry and i would relish a job such as that.
The only thing that can save the franchise is if it Raimi doesn’t make it. Raimi has successfully ruined one of the most marketable superheroes of all time with the filth and tripe that was SM3. I almost felt sorry for Tobey Mcguire when he had to do the strutting and hipthrusting and disco dancing in SM3 until I realized how much he was getting paid to embarrass himself, and that I helped pay that by watching. The franchise needs an overhaul the same way that Batman did after Batman and Robin. Ditch Tobey (who never was a decent actor), dicth Raimi, cut all of the ridiculous wastes of time and crying, and make a solid 2 hr (MAX) movie focusing on a villain (the 70s show kid as venom? jesus christ.)someone could actually enjoy watching wreak havoc.
Or just let Sam do another, and all the fanboys will end up watching Spidey team up with the Flash, Aquaman and the Incredible Hulk to fight against Morbius, the Lizard, albino werewolves, angry beavers, and ill-tempered sea bass with lasers attached to their heads…all while Peter Parker laments about MJ won’t marry him because he’s pathetic and emo.
@Rob
That is why I am praying that they throw Morbis into Spidey 4. That would tottaly make me forgive the mistakes of Spidey 3!
@Darren seeley
I did not despise Spidey 3 but I did not enjoy it as much as I thought I would. I was really looking forward to seeing the Sandman and Venom and I do not think they did thoose villians justice.
@SK47
That is why I always like to watch a Spiderman flick or even IronMan. They are a nice relief of the whole dark and depressing thing. I just hope they dont change that or I probaly won’t enjoy this one as much as I would usally of the other Spidey films.
Morbius in a Spidey movie would be absolutely brilliant – a little left field, but great idea.
It does have the makings of another redemption story though (yawn).
I didn’t care so much for S3 either, but S2 was almost perfect. The scene of Doc Oc (or his tentacles) killing the doctors in the operating room was fantastic, I wish we could’ve seen such creativity with Venom
I think that since Venom was in the last movie, that Carnage should be a perfect fit for Spiderman 4. Also you should include Rhino maybe or Shocker, and wait for Spiderman 5 to use Lizard and/or Morbius.
@ Mark Brown,
I think Sam Raimi is back for Spidey 4 and they’re waiting on confirmation on Tobey.
We have an article on it from not too long ago if you click the ‘Spiderman 4′ tag at the end of the article.
@Rob
If Raimi is back for Spidey 4 then I wont be suprised when Tobey signs on as well. Thoose two are like bread and butter when it comes to the Spiderman movies.
@ Jess H,
Especially with a $50 Million contract!
http://screenrant.com/tobey-maguire-50-million-spider-man-filmnerdjamie-3713/
@Rob
lol even if I absolutly despised a role I wouldn’t pass up a chance to add 50 million dollars to the funds
like I said I wont be suprised when he signs on haha
If lizard isn’t in the third they might as well right connor off, the build up is almost rediculus. I wanted him to be in 3 and it would’ve been a better choice than sandman, which I thought was a lame choice… the writing could have gone well, yeah it wouldn’t flow with the original story line. But one thing I’ve noticed is none of these comic to film movies transition that way… save ironman that did a good job, aside from the “magnet to keep the shard from going into his heart” which actually worked….
and I too have been longing to see rhino on the screen, as long as he isn’t screwed up like juggernaut in xmen 3 was.
@ Jess H,
Definitely agree! And it’s not just a stupidly large amount of money he’s getting, he gets all these perks and nice scheduling for time with his family. It’s almost at the point where I’d be angry at him if he said no, lol.
@ papa.fuego,
I agree – I think Lizard is a must from what we saw built up previously – He’d be a great character to help Spidey 4 correct the disaster that was Spidey 3.
@Rob
If he passed that up I think he needs therapy
lol
In all fairness to Raimi, folks who want to blast him for ruining the franchise should consider the studio insisted on adding Venom to the third film. Besides, he’s one of the main reasons there is a franchise at all! You can’t discount the Raimi touches to the first two Spiderman films that made them work. I’ll agree that there were too many villains packed into the third film. I enjoyed it, though. I had the benefit of seeing it after hearing all the bashing it took.
@Bill Blume
Excellent point. Avi Arad made Raimi shoehorn Venom into the film and it totally felt like that was the case.
Vic
It definatly seemed like that some villians did not belong there or they were forced there. very good point Bill Blume!
I’ve always really enjoyed Venom and the Symbiote characters, but you are right, they were forced in and not done properly. Venom as a villain didn’t really fit in with what Raimi was doing in the last two. It could’ve been much better.
I was kind of hoping they would do a solo or spinoff Venom flick with him as an anti-hero inflicting his brutal form of justice on those that he deemed were wronged. Just get rid of Topher Grace. I like that guy, he’s funny, but he’s not Eddie Brock.
Don’t fret Jon, in about 7 years they will decide to reboot the series, after Spidey 4 blows and Spidey 5 delves into that crappy Batman and Robin Territory.
So at least you will have that to look forward to.
Hey, it didn`t say anything about Carnage. None of the websites that have been posted within the last few months said anything about Carnage, does this mean they`re not going to allow him into the upcoming installment? They`re just going to use a supernatural being, Lizard, and Kraven? NO, WE NEED CARNAGE SAM RAIMI PLEASE EXCEPT CARNAGE PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND NO KRAVEN SAM PLEASE, PLEASE DON`T USE KRAVEN SAM, PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE DON`T USE KRAVEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND PLEASE, PLEASE LET VENOM CUM BAC PLEASE SAM PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE USE 3 VILLAINS PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, USE 3 VILLAINS, PLEASE DON`T USE KRAVEN
please don`t erase my posts, it`s always been happening
Why do you want 3 villains, that would mean an unfocused story like Spidey 3.
I don’t think Carnage will be in it, it’s too similar to Venom and wouldn’t look good on screen. I think they went to make this more realistic (as much as it can be).
But they made it work in third they just need to make 4th part a little longer Venom needs to come bac cuz only got 15 minutes carnage needs to join cuz he`s a friend of brock and doc. connors wasn`t mentioned until the second. What do you mean no Carnage for 4th? PLEASE EXCEPT VENOM AND CARNAGE OR I`LL BE SO DEBISTATED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Rob Keyes they look awesome
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