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		<title>By: Confirmed: Spider-Man 4 Delayed - Screen Rant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Confirmed: Spider-Man 4 Delayed - Screen Rant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 15:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] had the exclusive scoop on the startling news that there are issues behind the scene involving a dispute over what villain(s) should appear in the film and an incomplete script because of it. While some out there said this [...]</description>
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		<title>By: John K.</title>
		<link>http://screenrant.com/spiderman-4-delayed-rob-38367/comment-page-3/#comment-166234</link>
		<dc:creator>John K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; After the studio interference helped ruin what we know as Spiderman 3 with its messy scipt and forced inclusion of the misused fan-favorite character of Venom, I am very concerned that Spiderman 4 may be on track to be doomed, not to be overly dramatic.&quot;

 Ok, after hearing all these comments about Sam Raimi &quot;not having control over Spiderman 3&quot; and that he was forced to use Venom and hearing how much of a problem it was to use Venom in the movie and how much people think the studio made a mistake by doing so, I`d like to say the words that I`ve lost my spirit and the studio doesn`t need to pressure Carnage in if Raimi doesn`t want to and if it`s going to be a &quot;disaster&quot; as people say, but i`d just like to say, ahhh, never mind. I mean this franchise is badly botched by SM3. The rest of the life of the franchise is killed cuz i don`t know how it can escape from the past of everybody seeing what happened in SM3. I will probably go see this one just to not see the end of Spidey for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; After the studio interference helped ruin what we know as Spiderman 3 with its messy scipt and forced inclusion of the misused fan-favorite character of Venom, I am very concerned that Spiderman 4 may be on track to be doomed, not to be overly dramatic.&#8221;</p>
<p> Ok, after hearing all these comments about Sam Raimi &#8220;not having control over Spiderman 3&#8243; and that he was forced to use Venom and hearing how much of a problem it was to use Venom in the movie and how much people think the studio made a mistake by doing so, I`d like to say the words that I`ve lost my spirit and the studio doesn`t need to pressure Carnage in if Raimi doesn`t want to and if it`s going to be a &#8220;disaster&#8221; as people say, but i`d just like to say, ahhh, never mind. I mean this franchise is badly botched by SM3. The rest of the life of the franchise is killed cuz i don`t know how it can escape from the past of everybody seeing what happened in SM3. I will probably go see this one just to not see the end of Spidey for me.</p>
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		<title>By: the old man</title>
		<link>http://screenrant.com/spiderman-4-delayed-rob-38367/comment-page-2/#comment-163780</link>
		<dc:creator>the old man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 17:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>chris says: &quot;just use the lizard damb its not that hard&quot;

 I don&#039;t know anymore Chris. I&#039;ve already seen several detailed sites built by Spider-Man fans publically pitching Lizard stories with 4-color illustrations and everything. The thing is they may have actually taken the best possible material and ruined the studio&#039;s chance of using it without lawsuit hassles. I might be overstating the concern Sony would have but perhaps that could be another nail in the coffin on a Lizard story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>chris says: &#8220;just use the lizard damb its not that hard&#8221;</p>
<p> I don&#8217;t know anymore Chris. I&#8217;ve already seen several detailed sites built by Spider-Man fans publically pitching Lizard stories with 4-color illustrations and everything. The thing is they may have actually taken the best possible material and ruined the studio&#8217;s chance of using it without lawsuit hassles. I might be overstating the concern Sony would have but perhaps that could be another nail in the coffin on a Lizard story.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 16:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just use the lizard damb its not that hard to big the best villain to use everyone wanted him before and still do why have they not wrote him in already?! then build up to carnageand have side villains like mysterio,and kraven.they should use scorpion and doc ock in the 6 movie.but anyways use the lizard,carnage,venom,and doc ock in a spiderman film and you have a great film just work on story and characters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just use the lizard damb its not that hard to big the best villain to use everyone wanted him before and still do why have they not wrote him in already?! then build up to carnageand have side villains like mysterio,and kraven.they should use scorpion and doc ock in the 6 movie.but anyways use the lizard,carnage,venom,and doc ock in a spiderman film and you have a great film just work on story and characters.</p>
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		<title>By: FRED</title>
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		<dc:creator>FRED</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 04:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If they are going to push it back that far, then they better do a reboot of spidey. Another reason they are pushing it back would be because they want to forget the horrible movie which was Spider-man 3, lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they are going to push it back that far, then they better do a reboot of spidey. Another reason they are pushing it back would be because they want to forget the horrible movie which was Spider-man 3, lol.</p>
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		<title>By: John K.</title>
		<link>http://screenrant.com/spiderman-4-delayed-rob-38367/comment-page-2/#comment-163700</link>
		<dc:creator>John K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 03:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>opps meant 2011</description>
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		<title>By: John K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>John K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 03:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If i cared about this, `be really frustrated they pushed it bak to 230111??? Pushing a release date too far may ruin the series.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If i cared about this, `be really frustrated they pushed it bak to 230111??? Pushing a release date too far may ruin the series.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 19:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aside from Spidey 3, Sony did a pretty good job with the first 2 Spider-Man movies. I&#039;m not sure if Marvel could or would have done a better job. We all agree the 3rd one was weak and it is here where I feel Marvel would have been a major improvement. I do not believe that Marvel would have EVER introduced the Venom character the way it was and I sure as hell don&#039;t think they would have had Topher Grace cast as Eddie Brock. What Sony was thinking is anyone&#039;s guess.  All that being said though, is that I sure wish that Marvel would get the rights back to Spidey so we can have quality movies following the webslinger from here on out.  I&#039;d love to see what Favs could with Spidey!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aside from Spidey 3, Sony did a pretty good job with the first 2 Spider-Man movies. I&#8217;m not sure if Marvel could or would have done a better job. We all agree the 3rd one was weak and it is here where I feel Marvel would have been a major improvement. I do not believe that Marvel would have EVER introduced the Venom character the way it was and I sure as hell don&#8217;t think they would have had Topher Grace cast as Eddie Brock. What Sony was thinking is anyone&#8217;s guess.  All that being said though, is that I sure wish that Marvel would get the rights back to Spidey so we can have quality movies following the webslinger from here on out.  I&#8217;d love to see what Favs could with Spidey!</p>
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		<title>By: FRED</title>
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		<dc:creator>FRED</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 15:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All this talk make me wish that Marvel had full control of the spider-man franchise rather than Sony. Just look at what a great job they have done with The Hulk and Iron man and the hype Thor is recieving.  
BTW, Tombstone looks like the best villian to fit into the spider-man franchise simply because I cannot think of a villian than can give peter more trouble than Tombstone since spider-man is all about peter overcoming any troubles in his life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All this talk make me wish that Marvel had full control of the spider-man franchise rather than Sony. Just look at what a great job they have done with The Hulk and Iron man and the hype Thor is recieving.<br />
BTW, Tombstone looks like the best villian to fit into the spider-man franchise simply because I cannot think of a villian than can give peter more trouble than Tombstone since spider-man is all about peter overcoming any troubles in his life.</p>
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		<title>By: the old man</title>
		<link>http://screenrant.com/spiderman-4-delayed-rob-38367/comment-page-2/#comment-163508</link>
		<dc:creator>the old man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 05:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DrSamBeckett says: &quot;if making it will prevent him from being in any way involved in The Hobbit, I’m suddenly all for another crappy web slinging adventure!&quot;

Dr.Sam I&#039;m going to hold you to that buddy. As long as Magoo stays out of the &quot;Hobbit.&quot; So no more whining about &quot;Spider-Man&quot; until we hear a confirm that Tobey really is doing the &quot;Hobbit.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DrSamBeckett says: &#8220;if making it will prevent him from being in any way involved in The Hobbit, I’m suddenly all for another crappy web slinging adventure!&#8221;</p>
<p>Dr.Sam I&#8217;m going to hold you to that buddy. As long as Magoo stays out of the &#8220;Hobbit.&#8221; So no more whining about &#8220;Spider-Man&#8221; until we hear a confirm that Tobey really is doing the &#8220;Hobbit.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Vic Holtreman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vic Holtreman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 21:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Packy

Sorry, I guess I was feeling a bit snarky.

You may have missed it above but I commented that I spoke to someone who personally got the word from two different sources who were involved in the Spidey movies that this is in fact, true. The statement released by the studio is a CYA maneuver.

Vic</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Packy</p>
<p>Sorry, I guess I was feeling a bit snarky.</p>
<p>You may have missed it above but I commented that I spoke to someone who personally got the word from two different sources who were involved in the Spidey movies that this is in fact, true. The statement released by the studio is a CYA maneuver.</p>
<p>Vic</p>
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		<title>By: Packy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Packy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 21:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Vic

I&#039;m just putting my 2 cents out there. I said I think it&#039;s false, but never definitively stated as such. It may all be true, to me though, it just seems unlikely.

I believe I gave some reasonably valid points as to why it could be false, and that is all. Multiple sites are all claiming that unnamed inside sources are saying it is true, others say their sources say it isn&#039;t. I just wanted to lay down a counterpoint to the original blog post here.

To everyone who posts here, believe me at your own folly, I&#039;m only stating my opinion. The truth will be whatever it is regardless of whether I agree with it or not.</description>
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<p>I&#8217;m just putting my 2 cents out there. I said I think it&#8217;s false, but never definitively stated as such. It may all be true, to me though, it just seems unlikely.</p>
<p>I believe I gave some reasonably valid points as to why it could be false, and that is all. Multiple sites are all claiming that unnamed inside sources are saying it is true, others say their sources say it isn&#8217;t. I just wanted to lay down a counterpoint to the original blog post here.</p>
<p>To everyone who posts here, believe me at your own folly, I&#8217;m only stating my opinion. The truth will be whatever it is regardless of whether I agree with it or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Vic Holtreman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vic Holtreman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 20:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Packy

Oh, I see - because you FEEL this story can&#039;t be true that makes it false?

OK, got it.

Vic</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Packy</p>
<p>Oh, I see &#8211; because you FEEL this story can&#8217;t be true that makes it false?</p>
<p>OK, got it.</p>
<p>Vic</p>
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		<title>By: Packy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Packy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 17:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There seems to be conflicting data online about this whole charade. I tend to fall in the &quot;this is all hogwash,&quot; category on the matter. I think it&#039;s safe to chalk this one up to keeping this movie in the press. There is no such thing as bad news, and anything to keep the buzz rolling is considered newsworthy.

More than once in interviews Raimi has stated that there is a script, and that it is going through standard re-writes. Pretty typical Hollywood stuff here.

Disagreement on the villian? I&#039;m not sure how that could be the case. They&#039;ve had the script that is currently going through re-writes for over a year now. The script had to have a villian in it. The studio execs would have had to have agreed to like the script enough with the villian that is in it to bother trying to film it. 

Whereas I could see Raimi and the studio disagreeing creatively, I&#039;m just not sure it&#039;s over the villian. At least not the main villain. If anything it may be over the Felicia Hardy/Vultress character, and if that&#039;s the case I&#039;m glad that Raimi is toeing the line with them. The Vultress has studio horse manure written all over it.

I know there is precedent that shows that Raimi and the studio have disagreed over villain choice before, however; I just don&#039;t believe that Raimi would have bothered to sign on to direct this film if he new it was going to be the same battle all over again. He doesn&#039;t need the money, nor the exposure. He already has another film lined up after this as well, I believe he&#039;s making this film because he wants to.

And one last thought: if the studio wants to put in a villain that is &quot;hot&quot; in the books right now, then who would that be? Anyone reading the Amazing Spider-Man right now knows that there is not one &quot;hot&quot; villain right now, save Norman Osbourne, but why retread his story in the movies? There&#039;s been a Goblin in every flick, let that story go. Who does that leave? Nobody. The majority of the current Spider-Man villains are new or second tier. The Gauntlet (the most recent arc) is bringing back the classic villains, but they are all being masterminded by a newer villain.

I just don&#039;t think that this story is much more than an attempt to keep the people talking and keep the movie buzz rolling. After the holidays we&#039;ll probably get a report that it was all no big deal, and that everyone involved is excited about the movie and has nothing but respect for everyone involved. You know, typical Hollywood politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There seems to be conflicting data online about this whole charade. I tend to fall in the &#8220;this is all hogwash,&#8221; category on the matter. I think it&#8217;s safe to chalk this one up to keeping this movie in the press. There is no such thing as bad news, and anything to keep the buzz rolling is considered newsworthy.</p>
<p>More than once in interviews Raimi has stated that there is a script, and that it is going through standard re-writes. Pretty typical Hollywood stuff here.</p>
<p>Disagreement on the villian? I&#8217;m not sure how that could be the case. They&#8217;ve had the script that is currently going through re-writes for over a year now. The script had to have a villian in it. The studio execs would have had to have agreed to like the script enough with the villian that is in it to bother trying to film it. </p>
<p>Whereas I could see Raimi and the studio disagreeing creatively, I&#8217;m just not sure it&#8217;s over the villian. At least not the main villain. If anything it may be over the Felicia Hardy/Vultress character, and if that&#8217;s the case I&#8217;m glad that Raimi is toeing the line with them. The Vultress has studio horse manure written all over it.</p>
<p>I know there is precedent that shows that Raimi and the studio have disagreed over villain choice before, however; I just don&#8217;t believe that Raimi would have bothered to sign on to direct this film if he new it was going to be the same battle all over again. He doesn&#8217;t need the money, nor the exposure. He already has another film lined up after this as well, I believe he&#8217;s making this film because he wants to.</p>
<p>And one last thought: if the studio wants to put in a villain that is &#8220;hot&#8221; in the books right now, then who would that be? Anyone reading the Amazing Spider-Man right now knows that there is not one &#8220;hot&#8221; villain right now, save Norman Osbourne, but why retread his story in the movies? There&#8217;s been a Goblin in every flick, let that story go. Who does that leave? Nobody. The majority of the current Spider-Man villains are new or second tier. The Gauntlet (the most recent arc) is bringing back the classic villains, but they are all being masterminded by a newer villain.</p>
<p>I just don&#8217;t think that this story is much more than an attempt to keep the people talking and keep the movie buzz rolling. After the holidays we&#8217;ll probably get a report that it was all no big deal, and that everyone involved is excited about the movie and has nothing but respect for everyone involved. You know, typical Hollywood politics.</p>
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		<title>By: DrSamBeckett</title>
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		<dc:creator>DrSamBeckett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 16:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the picture that heads this article, Sam Raimi looks like a date rapist!</description>
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		<title>By: The Real Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Real Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 16:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that a re-boot along the lines of the Hulk would work best for Spiderman.  Give him a story line that can evolve over two or three movies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that a re-boot along the lines of the Hulk would work best for Spiderman.  Give him a story line that can evolve over two or three movies.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Glass</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Glass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 13:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No that rumour of Spider-Man 4 being delayed is just totally stupid and untrue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No that rumour of Spider-Man 4 being delayed is just totally stupid and untrue.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 12:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: DrSamBeckett</title>
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		<dc:creator>DrSamBeckett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 09:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As much as I do not ever want to see another Maguire Spiderman movie, if making it will prevent him from being in any way involved in The Hobbit, I&#039;m suddenly all for another crappy web slinging adventure!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as I do not ever want to see another Maguire Spiderman movie, if making it will prevent him from being in any way involved in The Hobbit, I&#8217;m suddenly all for another crappy web slinging adventure!</p>
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		<title>By: the old man</title>
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		<dc:creator>the old man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 05:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah it didn&#039;t work because the audience was clueless. Movie did over 800mm world wide. Do you think they will be this time? Fool me once...



Well Barnum did say &quot;There&#039;s a fool born every minute.&quot;
Probably five by now...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah it didn&#8217;t work because the audience was clueless. Movie did over 800mm world wide. Do you think they will be this time? Fool me once&#8230;</p>
<p>Well Barnum did say &#8220;There&#8217;s a fool born every minute.&#8221;<br />
Probably five by now&#8230;</p>
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