Spider-Man 4 Villain Is… Black Cat? [Updated]

I think shocker should be the second villan either that or carnage.

i thank christina aguilera should play Black Cat if you dont thik so just watch the 2008 mtv awards

OMG!!!!!I loved the black cat.I think Reese Witherspoon should be her.The Black Cat is my fav villain of spidey.I think they should do carnage as the second villain.Then halfway throung the movie balck cat and spidey can like team up and beat carnage.*takes a bow*I should so go in the movie business.lol.

I glad she's in this forth film but I still would like to see
Miss McAdams for that part and not Anne Hathaway.Eventhough Scarlett Johansson would be a much better choice but can't because she's Black Widow. I hope that the character is an accurate account of who Felicia Hardy is her obsession with Spider-Man. whoever the studio goes with I hope is not Miss
Hathaway.

For goodness sake why can't they just confirm the Lizard and the Blcak Cat as the two villians for spiderman 4 and be done with it.

I'm not really sure that Black Cat is gonna qualify as a villian in this film. Sure her means of living is nefarious, but I never considered her a legit villian. She's more like Spider-Man's special "I can save her from this life" project with benefits.

I still believe that Spider-Man 4 will only have 1 villian, and that in the end Black Cat (much like Harry did in the 3rd movie) will decide to be good and help Spidey take down the villian.

For the record, the villian I would like to see the most is: Kraven the Hunter. Nothing like a man hell bent on capturing and killing the only creature that he has never been able to. That story, coupled with Black Cat and MJ as a much more diminished role = good times.

@ John K

chrisj is correct when he says the script can still be changed. Just bear in mind that there were various drafts presented in pre production.

Scripts can be and often are re written during production and there is always a post production script which is your final draft.

So it's certainly interesting to see what developments are going to unfold with Spiderman 4.

@ John K
With the script being writen, some of it could still be changed. As for villains, all they given was ideas of what villains we might expect as rumors continue to fly. I heard it would be back to one villain, then two villains etc. We heard Lizard & Carnage/ Lizard, Carnage & return of Venom/ and there was Lizard & Morbious, and on and on. Why not just wait to see a full cast and confirmed villains with actors/actresses beside the character's name and wait till the movie comes out before passing judgement.

um, now i`m confused, i thought i heard the rumors say the villains in the script ross is writing right now are the confirmed villains. How do people know all this info i`m starting to feel a bit inedequate there is all these romors from people sounding like they know it, so lizard is "out"? boy as many people mentioned it`d make no sense to leave lizrd oyt the next film when he played important role in th other 2 films i figured if this is a good script then the villains written in it will be confirmed? and by the way, u still haven`t answered my questions up there.

Yeah JohnK

anything could happen from here. and hopefully they are casting for a serious villain or two and Black Cat is just a side friend or foe.

@ John K
Don't you think you're jumpin to conclusions? I mean filming for Spidey 4 hasnt started yet, no full cast, really no confirmed villain/villains yet etc. Anything could change before filming starts and i havnt seen enough bad or good info about the film before i would pass judgement. Atleast give'em the benefit of doubt that they learned from Spider-Man3 which i thought wasnt that bad.

oh hey guys i agree with jose valencia! Remember isaid up there Peter already chaeted on mj with gwen stacy and they had to tear up and now with blackcat being a villain it`s going to be a disaster! He "allegedly" chose black cat? What does allegedly meaAN? i don`t know if i ever cared about this film except i don`t want it to be a farther disaster after 3 it could`ve been somewhat unruined and recover from mistakes made through the last one but just not completely unruined though now he`s defeninately killed the franchise! It`s interesting to see a love interest for spidey but this is the wrong direction to be in! And i agree that she`s not villanous enough like someone said how could it not matter how villainous the villains are even after what peter has delt with already she doesn`t have enough depth with petyer`s story guys this is wrong! I think he chose blackcat cuz he`s too cranky to use a big villain i wish it ended with 3 villains not nedding to be too dark in the movie guys how can blackcat be villanous enough for the whole movie she`s gonna team up with spidey guys i agree this sucks! ok, so you`re opinion is " right" and mine is "wrong" guys face it ah man i can`t believe the way the franchise is going!

and also i really think sometimes superheto films sometimes shouldn`t focus too much on being a great action film, it shouldn`t leave too much out of the other reality than the villains, i`d like to see a great action movie but focus on being mature in which the way th superhero fights the villains. Atleast for me superman returns though could`ve had a couple action sequences but was handled more maturely had focused more on the depth of superman`s world, sometimes it good to have some superhero films that hardly focus on the action.

well yeah but don`t u think it wood kinda suk if we already had venom in the first one it`d kinda suk??? I mean don`t you think that if you already got the biggest baddies so quickly and you feel like u don`t need any more of the higher-pitched villains it`d kinda suck??? don`t we want it to be more believable so that spidey could drtive up to the level of that villain by fighting easier villains first??? That`s why i said, don`t wanna repeat too many times, that if we save the bigger badies for later then the franchise won`t have to end so quickly in a range where you are already filled with the top villains, how could it not make each sequel better if it has a bit darker challenge than the previous film??? So you can be satisfied if you see a copy of how good the previous film was when you`re wasting your time to go to the theatre and can just watch the same disk at home film??? Even if the action sequences were better and there weren`t big flaws in the movie it still wouldn`t make the seq2uel better??? y not??? oh and by the way, no matter wat every villain is better than spiderman so honestly did we really the goblin in the first one??? Do we really want to see the good villains so quickly??? It won`t go downhill just by not using off a good baddie it can still improve eeach sequel we shouldn`t expect too much when it comes to an earlier movie or sequel.

Unfortunately I missed Spider Man 3 and I've never bothered, at least not yet any way, to go to the local video store and rent it! I personally liked the first two movies and I hear that the third had bits and pieces that were really, really good. I am looking forward to number 4, hopefully I'll see 3, before 4 comes out, because I wanna be up on the story line before this next one comes out!


I really don't have a preference for Spidey villians, big or small, short or tall Spider Man takes um down and that's all that matters to me! God speed and happy trails.....

@chrisj

I went to film school for three years and worked in the film industry for about five years as a camera assistant. I loved every minute of it and it certainly gave me a real insight and appreciation of the hard work that goes into film making.

So in essence I can't help myself. I am constantly deconstructing the screen as a way for me to better understand the process involved but I always try to put the plot, storyline and narrative first.

A great story will soon have you on that roller coaster ride and should take your mind off all the constructive elements.

In terms of villians, as long they have a depth of character that is explored, a sinister motive and an actor able to realistically portray a range of emotions.

I think the audience needs to have some empathy for the villian or at least understand what shaped them to be the way they are.

I'm also in favour of Directors who allow their actors to improvise a bit. I beleive it adds to the performance as it did for Iron Man.

Most likely reason why a director would use the biggest baddies first is simply because they would help the film more interesting to see & for movie goers to want more. its common knowlege they use the better badies incase the franchise goes down hill like the previous Batman franchise and samething thing they're doin with Nolan's franchise etc.

soo, it would only be as good as the previous films??? i really just prefer that the franchise makes sense as stories though. it doesn`t bothre me too much but i wouldn`t want the stories to be messed up in weird places. i`d very much prefer i get the smaller baddies sooner and bigger baddies later.

@ John K
what's the big differance in which order the villains should be in? You could have those villains in that order in the films and still it wouldnt mean the films would be better. Maybe people like you should go to Film School if it bothers you that much about where the franchise is goin. Many people would think otherwise.

oh yeah jose valencia i agree with you! This is not the way the franchise should be going right now and i`m fed up the way the franchise is going iit should`ve been doc ock in the first one, lizard in the second, perhaps a return of lizard making him bigger annd more power in the third(like in spidey 3 the game) with green goblin, and i don`t know about the rest of the franchise, maybe villains like Sandman and Electro and spidey fighting them with the blacksuit and perhaps the 5th with venom, carnage, new goblin, but i`m not sure. oh no i am so ticked off i can`t believe we`re going in a way i don`t like!

and dunst is NOT a bad mj! nor was katie holms as rachael dawes! bUT i think both actresses looked kinda stunnjing as rachael dwaes.

oh yeah and sam raimi i would`ve wanted you to have plentyy of time to develop 3 villains on the screen as well.

chris they shouldn`t have chosen blackcat after what`s happened in the first 3 movies.

so whats the villains for this film?? Blackcat and mysterio??? because they are far too cranky and exhausted to do more than one villain or perhaps use such big villains??? because the hard work they did cramming 3 villains in sm3 and on the first 2 movies??? They`ve pretty much exhausted after 3 movies??!! And i can`t BELIeve sam raimi "agreed" with the criticism of spidey 3 having "too many villains", because it put too much hard work on him?? I can`t believe you mr. Raimi i would`ve someetimes needed you to keep your energy up to do lots of villains in these films, how much work did it put on you putting 3 villains in one film??? So you are just too lazy, too cranky to have more of the "comic book" plots to the screen, just to sometimes put lots of villains in one film??? I would have needed you to try an "amount of villains" that would be harder than the amount(s) of villains that could positively work, there are tons of great villains from the comics that are hard to resist putting them on the screen, oh and by the way, i still think it can`t be any villain right off the top from the comics, it would need to have a certain depth with spidey or perhaps be dark enough with a power that isn`t too compact or ordinary with detail and odd color, and i wouldn`t want them to use too much of extreme villains from the comics, i would want to have villains right for the screen, the fact tht they`re "awesome" villains wouldn`t be enough of a reason for me to want them in the movie. So anyway, like i was saying, i can understand it put much hard work to do 3 villains in one film, but i would for once need to try an amount of villains that wouldn`t obviously work on screen, because many comic book films have made 2 villains work on screen but i don`t think 3 villins is that much for one superhero to face so i`d need for it to take it to another level to (srt of) use lots of villains one movie to see what kinda drama it adds, i`m sure spidey can take them on, my point is i would for once need something new to work on screen, and i think doing a higher amount of villains to make more drama would be the right topic for that, and just cuz 2 villains is more than one doesn`t mean it`s really alot of villains. Boy i wish human beings had more energy. I really don`t see why people think 3 villains is too many if they don`t want the movie to go too cazy to show too much of the comic book, or that it`ll ruin the movie. It isn` t that crazy to do 3 villains in one film, putting more drama with more villains is just a life lesson for peter, that everyone even him needs hepl like mj told him and what choice he has to make while facing those villains. Anyway i said the best thing to do would`ve been end with 3 villains, Vrnom carnage, lizard, it`s the final movie in the series so spiderman`s supposed to face his darkest challenge so that the final movie`s the biigest movie to make the final movie have meaning, don`t you get it? but i wouldn`t need that amazing a spidey movie, i would want it to focus on his relationships in the movie other than the action, by the way i never had a problem with the "romance" in spidey movies nor dunst singing on stage, that`s part of the story! thats her career, she has to sing on stage! anyway i don`t know what to say bout this film, i doubt they would`ve used those 3 villains since raimi 'hates" symbiotes and after the "atrocity" that spidey 3 was causing people to complain, and that they may have exhausted to do 3 villains again. i can see why raimi hates symbiotes, cuz of "lacking humanity" but it doesn`t matter now. Though most of you say that symbiotes "can`t be done justice on screen" and are disaSTERS for the movie i`m sure u don`t know wat u mean, i`m sure they can deveopl the characters depending on the script and if they have plenty of time to develop them n the screen. And if they have enough energy of course. I`m sure some story could work.

i want to see lizard,more doc ock,carnage,venom,and scorpion as main villains in spiderman 4,5,and 6 as for side villains lets see kraven,and mysterio. if they use black cat it just seems they are going the old tim burton route if done right i would love to see the super sexy chesty black leather black cat.but the main villains should be the above that i named off

i wish they hadn`t treaten spidey like a kiddie superhero. and i wish they hadn`t given him and shown his superstrength in spidey 2 making him able to stop a train. Just because of showing spidey`s superstrength in spm2 may have ruined this franchise for me. I don`t want spiderman to be so amazing.

@ Sonic Assassin
What could really be great is Buena Vista/Disney released the 90's Spider-man animated series. I cant believe theres no boxset or volume sets yet and i was expecting there would be when the first film came out. I tried to like the other shows except for the newest one but the 90's series was more interesting to me. Im still hoping since most of the X-men animated series are being released by volume sets.

Sonic Assassin is right. This whole franchise is basically done. A MAJOR reboot is needed but won't happen, we all know that.

We're all just going through the motions now, like zombies.
What a shame!

@chrisj

You do raise some very valid points and perhaps the James Bond analogy wasn't a good example.

I also enjoyed the Burton/Keaton Batman and would have liked to have seen that collaboration continue. I did however really enjoy the Christopher Nolan reboot and they are among my favourite super hero films, so I think reboots can work if handled correctly.

You're right Spiderman 3 did well at the box office and so I hope Sam Raimi who knows there's a rabid fan base, dosen't grow too complacent in his treatment for the next one.

I am eargerly anticipating Spiderman 4. Spidey is my favourite super hero. My comic book collection on Spidey goes back to the 60s and no I'm not that old - I was only born in the 60s.

Hey I think the best person to paly black cat could be either Charlize Theron or Scarlett Johansson. I really would consider Charlize Theron because she has the look of black cat.