Marc Webb Consults James Cameron about Spider-Man 3D

Published 4 years ago by , Updated August 16th, 2013 at 12:32 am,

spider man 3d Marc Webb Consults James Cameron about Spider Man 3D

A few weeks ago, when Sony made the announcement that they were parting ways with all the people involved with the highly successful Spider-Man movie franchise, the entire movie news world let out a collective “UGH!” In one major sweep, Sony let go of the Sam Raimi, Steve Ditko, Tobey Maguire, Willem Dafoe, Kirsten Dunst (not a huge loss IMO), James Franco and others that made old Web-Head movies what they were.

Sony decided to take Peter Parker back to high school, using James Vanderbilt’s script, which indicates another origin story; and although no official announcement has been made, I’m guessing the main villain will be a brooding teenage Morbius (if Twilight mania is any indication).  After 500 Days of Summer director Marc Webb was announced to be directing the upcoming Spider-Man reboot, Sony let it out that Spidey would be in 3D.

That’s really not a major “new” announcement though, as I think everybody now expects any major tent pole release to be in 3D. I recently made the prediction via a Twitter message to MTV Splash Page that Peter Parker will be a human actor and Spider-man will be CGI mocap of that actor. Think Jake Sully in Avatar. Some people didn’t agree with me, but I stand by my prediction. Now we’re getting a report from MTV Splash Page saying that Marc Webb has talked to super-über-mega Avatar director himself, James Cameron, about filming Spider-Man in 3D, which seems to add some weight to my predictions.

Why is this important, do you ask? Well first (and I didn’t know this), according to MTV Splash Page, Cameron did a work-up for a Spider-Man movie back in 1991 and that means he already has ideas that I’m sure he is more than willing to share with Webb. Secondly, Cameron is now THE go-to guy for all things filmed in 3D. Not the post-production 3D conversion process that Clash of the Titans and Alice in Wonderland are going though, but actually filming the movie start to finish in 3D.

I’m not a huge proponent of 3D movies and find them to be overly gimmicky, but if a director wants to use the tech, then planning on it during the filming process is the way to go. The visual special effects and use of 3D technology in Avatar is second to none and Webb is wise to seek out Cameron’s insight on the subject.

Webb and Cameron

Check out what Cameron’s producing partner, Jon Landau, had to say about the meeting with Webb:

“Last [week] we met the director of [the next ‘Spider-Man’ film]…[He] wants to do the next one in 3-D, which they’ve announced that they want to do. So, [Jim and I] want to try to support that as much as possible.”

Landau also agrees with me about the post-3D conversion process being applied to films:

“Other movies are turning to it now, some of which I agree with, some of which I don’t agree with. ‘Clash of The Titans’ is coming out in 3-D; they’re converting it very hastily into 3-D. I’m not in favor if that. If you want to shoot a 3-D movie, shoot it in 3-D.”

Everything I’m reading right now tells me that my prediction of a completely CGI mocap Spider-Man is not out of the realm of possibility. Reboot – Check. 3D – Check. Cameron’s technology involved – Check. Everything adds up to Spider-Man ultimately being CGI.

Honestly, I think a CGI mocap Spider-Man would look good on an IMAX screen. There wouldn’t be all of the human actor limitations involved with the flips, jumps and wall-crawling. If Webb pulls it off, then it could very well get the franchise back on track after the huge disappointment that was Spider-man 3.

Do you think that Marc Webb talking to James Cameron about his 3D process means that we could also see a CGI mocap Spider-Man in the future?

Spider-Man the reboot is slated to crawl into theaters in the summer of 2012.

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Source: MTV Splash Page

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  1. bla bla bla…cgi spiderman? I feel that this film will be all visual effects and less story. I really hope they dont do Morbius. I have a feeling that it will be about Peter Parker and someone else (Harry Osbourne, but more likely Eddie Brock) trying to win over Mary Jane or Gwen Stacey. I feel like Eddi Brock will take over as the Harry Osbourne type of role and be in a large portion of the film because they are really pushing for a Venom spinoff. Its all about the money these days and the Twilight epidemic is getting worse and worse

  2. Cameron says: $80 million budget? Laughs…end of conversation.

  3. Spider-Man 3D starring George Wendt as “The Rhino”, Lewis Black as “J. Jonah Jameson”, Meryl Streep as “whats-her-name” and Jessica Simpson as “Aunt May”… Last but not least, the Jonas Brothers (yes, all of them) as “Spider-Man”. I can feel the sexual tension already… no, wait… I think it's the pants I'm wearing.

  4. A cgi spider-man doing all the flips and body contortions found in the McFarlane years can do well, but, there is just something special seeing a gifted gymnast or athlete do these amazing stuff on wires or on their own as Spidey.
    At least Webb is smart by utilizing the right technology to bring a true 3D experience.

  5. Spidey has been mostly CGI these past three movies, and they used elements of Cameron's famous “scriptment” in Raimi's, including the 'organic/real webbing' growing in Peter's wrist vs. him actually making them, like in the comics.

    Heath

  6. the cgi is ok on the flips and stuff like that, but they should still use the actor for like wall crawling and things that he can still do by himself

  7. Am I the only one burnt out by Spiderman….. I could honestly care less anymore…… It's like telling a joke about someone to close to their death…. It's just not time right now, and the backlash will be awful………..

  8. @Paul

    You mentioned Steve Ditko at the beginning of your article but not Stan Lee?

    The only resemblance apart from a wonderful supporting cast Raimi's version had is the way Maguire was made to look a bit like Ditko's Peter Parker.

    Spiderman needs to be in the hands of MARVEL STUDIOS and given a proper mature treatment with real cinematography, real locations, real sets, real actors with CGI FX to be added in post production.

  9. Yeah, from my understanding Ditko won't be back to assist but no one is ever going to remove Stan Lee from the playbill. That's why I didn't included him in that paticular list.

  10. I agree it is more enjoyable to see an actual person do the acrobatic stunts, but when they are on wires the superhuman feats just don't look believable. For example, when the character jumps straight up into the air, using wires make it look like they are floating upwards too slowly. Using CGI allows them to “fake the physics” better.

  11. 3d is still, just…not that amazing. I wasn't that impressed with the recent 3d movies that dropped. Avatar's success is just hype over a new technology that will give theater operators the carte blanche to charge an extra three dollars per ticket for dumb glasses. Pretty soon every Seth Rogen comedy will be filmed in 3d too.

    DEATH TO 3-D……and spiderman reboots with cobra commander.

  12. Probably conversion is just something that we will have to accept until studios get to the point that a movie is just know it will be in 3d before writing even beings so in turn it will be shoot in 3d from the beginning. Right now I can see a studio not knowing it to be in 3d until shooting has already begun because we are in the early stage of 3d movies. If they knew then what they know now Titans would have been in 3d from the beginning. Something you just have to expect in a transitional stage.

  13. A director's first priority is the script and the actors. The director's job is guiding the actors with a strong script.

    Without a strong story everything else is superficial.

    The Director of Photography and the Camera Dept are responsible for how a film will be shot.

    This is very much putting the horse before the cart.

  14. The film you allude to was supposed to go ahead under the control of cameron and was supposed to tie into the 90's animated series. heres info from wiki

    “Sandman did not appear in Spider-Man: The Animated Series because the series did not want to interfere with the continuity of James Cameron's proposed Spider-Man movie, in which the Sandman and Electro were supposed to be the villains. Although Electro was belatedly introduced into the series when Cameron's film fell through, Sandman remained unseen in the series, the only major Spider-Man villain not to appear in the show (although Hydro-Man fulfilled many similar roles, and it has been stated that he was indeed essentially used as a replacement for Sandman[27]). Also because of Cameron's film, Sandman did not appear in the Fantastic Four cartoon in the 1990s, most notably the episodes featuring the Frightful Four.”

    Nevertheless I am willing to give this reboot a chance, apart from the first half of the first movie, Raimi did a really poor job in my opinion. Sure the graphics, fight scenes etc were cool but the story was so boring

    A movie with allusions to the current spiderman cartoon would be much much better

  15. Yes of course it will be more of than the effects. Technology has gone a long way so as this itsy bits spider. Hope that they are not going to overdo the Spiderman thing gamble on other worthwhile ideas, like what happened to Avatar. But still, I'll never miss this.

  16. Yes of course it will be more of than the effects. Technology has gone a long way so as this itsy bits spider. Hope that they are not going to overdo the Spiderman thing gamble on other worthwhile ideas, like what happened to Avatar. But still, I'll never miss this.

  17. I saw Avatar in 3D. I frequently raised the 3D glasses to see just how much of the 3 hour film was in 3D. Needless to say only a small fraction of the film was in 3D. So I just paid twice as much to watch a film in “3D” and have it a stop darker thanks to the tint on the glasses. Way to go. I won't be paying for that anymore. I got fooled once.

  18. Spidey in 3D on an $80 million budget. That's hardly going to worth paying extra to watch in 3D. Motion capturing Spider-Man…? haha Last I check no human can move like Spider-Man.

  19. I did the same thing, while my girlfriend kept hers on. I was utterly unimpressed by the difference. I was kinda mad when I left while my girl kept lagging on about how great it was and I was like, meh it was aight. They got us yo, we fell for the okeedoke.

  20. Eh, whatever,not interested. Make mine MARVEL not Sony and not Fox.

  21. I wouldn't put Alice In Wonderland anywhere near the category of Clash of the Titans concerning tacked on 3D. Burton was originally going to film it using 3D cameras, but he found them problematic and too expensive. He still filmed it with 3D in mind, and he's had ample post-production time to do it right. I'm not so concerned with whether someone uses 3D equipment so much as knows WHERE TO EFFECTIVELY PLACE 3D in a film. Wonderland will be my next 3D film, and I'm sure it'll be a feast with Burton at the helm.

  22. As long as it's in Sony's hands I will expect to see another lackluster showing.

  23. Instead of going to Marvel Studios and consulting with Kevin Feige and the Marvel Creative team or even Jon Favereau or Leterrier, he goes to James Cameron?! James Cameron said he didn't want anything to do with Spider-Man and Raimi's sloppy seconds. James Cameron's script of Spider-man was horrible at that. These guys just don't get it.

  24. BRING IT ON ! A whole new start – new / best effects not just a re-hash of what's already been done…raise the superhero bar once more Spider-Man people!!

  25. Unfortunately that's not going to happen with Sony at the Wheel. These people are convinced that they're going to do well with this just because they found a director with “WEBB” as his last name correlating it to the webb of Spider-Man or something.I'm sorry but that won't be enough. I think Sony ran out of luck with Spider-Man 3. Plus you got a director consulting the wrong people already. He should be consulting with Marvel the people who made Spider-Man not James Cameron. All the 3D, 4D, 5D in the world can't help a poorly made movie with a “clueless” director.

  26. Unfortunately that's not going to happen with Sony at the Wheel. These people are convinced that they're going to do well with this just because they found a director with “WEBB” as his last name correlating it to the webb of Spider-Man or something.I'm sorry but that won't be enough. I think Sony ran out of luck with Spider-Man 3. Plus you got a director consulting the wrong people already. He should be consulting with Marvel the people who made Spider-Man not James Cameron. All the 3D, 4D, 5D in the world can't help a poorly made movie with a “clueless” director.

  27. Unfortunately that's not going to happen with Sony at the Wheel. These people are convinced that they're going to do well with this just because they found a director with “WEBB” as his last name correlating it to the webb of Spider-Man or something.I'm sorry but that won't be enough. I think Sony ran out of luck with Spider-Man 3. Plus you got a director consulting the wrong people already. He should be consulting with Marvel the people who made Spider-Man not James Cameron. All the 3D, 4D, 5D in the world can't help a poorly made movie with a “clueless” director.

  28. 3-D is being overused as a way to raise the price of tickets.if a moviegoer has the choice of 2-D as an option the 3-D and 2-D versions at the theaters will limit the choices at a multiplex.also a movie made for 3-D may not be right in look for those who want to and have the option of a 2-D viewing.