The Punisher’s extreme methods of fighting crime have made him both the perfect ally for other Marvel superheroes and the perfect adversary, depending on the situation. It is this duality that promises to make him an interesting addition to season 2 of Daredevil, as well as a possible spin-off series of his own.

But Daredevil isn’t the only New Yorker that The Punisher has had a mixed relationship with. He also has a long history with Spider-Man in the comics, and one that many fans would like to see come to the big screen. With no immediate plans to bring the characters from Marvel’s various Netflix series into its cinematic universe, however, the closest fans may ever come to that is a set of audition tapes.

NY Daily News (via Comingsoon.net) reports on a comment made to them by Jon Bernthal, the actor playing The Punisher in the upcoming season of Daredevil, in regards to having made the aforementioned audition tapes with Spider-Man actor Tom Holland as the two worked on an unrelated movie:

“We were making tapes from Ireland in the process of getting him cast in Spider-Man and then he and I made a tape for The Punisher. During this independent movie that we did in Ireland we were constantly making tapes for Marvel — just acting together… These tapes definitely do exist, you can call Marvel and ask for it, but that’s like breaking into Fort Knox.”

Had an amazing time hanging with this guy. Much love brother. #pilgrimage #brothers.

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The movie in question is Pilgrimage, a period drama that was filmed in Ireland. Bernthal and Holland co-star in the movie, and set off speculation about The Punisher and Spider-Man meeting in either Captain America: Civil War or Daredevil when Holland posted the above photo to Instagram eight months ago. It turned out, of course, that the photo meant no such thing, but the working relationship between Bernthal and Holland means maybe the two will push for that meeting at some point, if they haven’t already.

There is the additional roadblock, however, of Sony still owning the movie rights to Spider-Man, despite lending him out to the MCU for an assist on rebooting the character. With all the legal wrangling that would have to happen to arrange a team-up (or showdown) between a Sony-owned movie character and a Marvel-owned TV character, fans probably should not hold their breaths to see that happen anytime soon.

Captain America: Civil War opens in U.S. theaters on May 6, 2016; Doctor Strange – November 4, 2016; Guardians of the Galaxy 2 – May 5, 2017; Spider-Man – July 7, 2017;Thor: Ragnarok – November 3, 2017; Black Panther – February 16, 2018; The Avengers: Infinity War Part 1 – May 4, 2018; Ant-Man and the Wasp– July 6, 2018; Captain Marvel – March 8, 2019; The Avengers: Infinity War Part 2 – May 3, 2019; Inhumans– July 12, 2019; and as-yet untitled Marvel movies on May 1, July 10 and November 6, 2020.

Daredevil season 2 will debut on Netflix on March 18th, 2016, followed by Luke Cage season 1 on September 30th, 2016. Release dates for Jessica Jones season 2, Iron Fist, and The Defenders on Netflix have not yet been announced.

Source: NY Daily News (via Comingsoon.net)