• tasouli
    Either way its a bad idea. Carnage is too unrealistic and is not grounded on teh levels of science (which was the problem with Venom) and SPiderman having a child is just a lame idea (as we saw with Superman having a child in Superman returns). Persoanlly I think that they will go with the former and have a young Cletus Kasady who will eventually become Carnage in the upcoming flicks. If this is indeed the case I still woould not know how it would work since Spiderman and Carnage would have such a big age gap. I am sure that if the move forward with the Carnage idea we will not have Raimi direct the 5th and 6th installments and McGuire will likely not return. Either way I really am curious to see where they are going with this casting and what the pint of all of this is.
  • M-Cat
    I think Raimi has gone off the deep end.
  • rastaZen
    relax people , we don't know what this means yet .
  • The producers went off the deep end when they hired Sam Raimi to make these films in the first place, the guy simply doesnt have the talent or vision to bring films like this to the screen.

    And as for Venom not being grounded in science, yeah true, but he was meant to be an alien! Venom's story was one of the best comic book stories of all time,and it goes to show how badlt the series has been treated when the amazing animated series from the nineties did a far better job of telling these great stories.

    In the same way Batman The Animated Series is easily the best incarnation of that character.
  • Hammie 111
    Mysterio coming to anyone's mind. A vision induced by Mysterio showing Spidey and MJ with a child to subdue the Web-Head.

    Thoughts anyone?
  • Dang, the news regarding this film just keeps getting worse and worse.
  • propnut
    I don't know about the red hair part, but didn't Dr Connors have a young son, Billy? (Just a guess...)

    Other than that,or a character's histoty (an MJ flashback) I think they need to stay away from it.

    Remember Superman Returns? Very bad idea!
  • roger
    slow news day?
  • @roger

    They can't all be ground-breaking, stop-the-presses articles. :-P

    Vic
  • Shawn
    Could be Cassidy in some type of flashback to when he was a kid, I remember a comic book like that where they showed him as a kid microwaiving his dog and pushing his grandma down the steps. Or it could be some kind of dream sequence. Or it could be Spideys kid since supposedly this is the last film before a reboot so who cares what they do.
  • Josh Rose
    DrSam,

    I don't even know how to respond to that. Raimi is my idol. Spider-Man 2 is easily one of the best comic book movies ever made. Guy makes one bad movie, and suddenly everybody hates him. EVERY director does eventually. Spielberg made Hook. Fincher made Alien 3. Coppola made Jack. Tarantino made Death Proof.

    Seriously, cut the guy some slack. The studio could have done MUCH worse in choosing a director. Seriously, have you read James Cameron's treatment? The one where he wanted to make the entire movie an allegory for puberty? That included a scene of Parker waking up in the morning to find his beg covered in sticky webbing?

    Yeah.
  • scubadonc
    Dude, c'mon. "Hook" and "Death Proof" are not bad movies. They are the worst movies those directors have done but not bad movies on their own. If "hook" is the worst a director has done, then Spielberg's batting a thousand.
    But I agree with you. Raimi Rules! "Spiderman 3" was not the movie he wanted to make. A lot of the issues we have with that film were forced on him as well. It was creative rape.
  • My issue isnt just with Spiderman 3, I also have an intense dislike for the first film. Only 2 came close to what I thought Spiderman should be.

    I think the main dislike for me is the cast, Tobey Maguire isnt good enough to play that part, and Kirsten Dunst was great in the first movie but in the rest what happened?

    Needs a reboot.
  • I grew up on the animated series of Spiderman, and later the comics, but Spiderman was always a witty person, cracking jokes while fighting his enemeys and making quick quips. This has never translated into any of the movies, and for me is such an integral part of the character.

    I know a lot of people think Raimi is awesome, and maybe he is, but not with these movies. He just doesnt have the scope to breathe life into these characters, and the actors portraying them are not of good enough quality, they do not embody the characters properly and it comes off as awkward, The only actor who, in my opinion, did a good job during 1-3 was James Franco and then they went and killed off Harry!
  • rich
    ok, no ones going to agree with me..

    but how freaking beyond crazy would it be to see spiderman die in the 4th. in an EPIC fight with whomever spiderman bights it. and the 5th and 6th can be the revival of a hero in his son against the established tyrant.

    itd be a cool way to move on to a new spidey franchise, and for spiderman to once again make waves in comicverse.
  • @ rich

    Not sure about the whole son idea, but I do like the thought of killing Spiderman off in 4, then when he comes back in 5+6, a new actor can play the part.
  • John
    if spidey has a kid i will not know what to think. I mean how can we say it`s a bad idea he has a kid? Well it`s just peter has alot to deal with in his world so the superhero having a kid in there would be a bit too deep and ingoing. Maybe every couple`s supposed to have a kid once a while but i`d just rather they don`t mention it or show it. Spidey has intamicies that doesn`t reflect beyond the path. By the way, in Superman Returns, Lois had already been married, it had never shown Superman and lois getting married in the first 4 superman films. I`m not sure if that was following the comics but then what am i missvisioned?
  • John
    magnetic eye,

    um, peter hadn`t ever been handsome in the comics, and have you not seen some shots in the first 3 films he did not look anywhere near goofy looking he was kinda cool in the first one. I have no comment to whether or not he`s too short to play spidey but mostly he fits the tights well.
  • John
    oh yeah and kirsten dunst, guys i had never had a problem with her as Mary Jane, so what mj was sexy in the comics she still has plenty of chemistry with peter guys i think the top leads as the roles are always the right people.
  • I want to see the wise cracking Spiderman I fondly remember as a child, and Tobey Maguire isnt capable of being that Spidey.

    Anyone ideas for his replacement?
  • I actually thought, with his rather humourous nature, David Boreanaz might make a good Superman!

    I could picture Josh Hartnett as Peter Parker.
  • John
    Magnetic eye,

    ok, no, not saying no actor has ever been wrong for their role, i kinda thought val kilmer and george clooney were incorrectly cast. But most movies i`ve seen had the right actors for their roles.

    Now did you see the scene where Tobey`s shirt was off and looking in the mirror in the first one? He absolutely not goofy looking! Maaybe with his glasses on or the way he smiles is goofy looking? now i think in most scenes you probably thought his face was both average and goofy looking? I doubt so, in most scenes he seemed pretty moony, not at all goofy looking.

    I didn`t say he was ugly, but he always supposed to be just average looking, nothing really interesting or complex about his dialistics.

    kirsten is the best mary jane you should get. I`m fine with her hair looking a bit different from mary jane`s hair in the comics and restly looking very much like mary jane.

    Are you saying their bad actors? no their not, in some senes in the first 3 movies they`ve done amazing in their roles. You need to have a real sense of movie critique in yourslef.

    DrSam Beckett,

    Wise-Cracking Spiderman! I prefer the deeper looking into life Spidey. You mean making jokes against the villains? I think it`s better if peter doesn`t make as much jokes about the villains in the movies.
  • John
    Josh Hratnett! Guys, noone can play Peter parker without tobey. You need to realize what you`re taking wrongly of yourself.
  • John K.
    I MEANT noone can play peter parkeer other than tobey. seriously, if there`s a reboot, who can be the new peter parker? he`s supposed to be average looking, and tobey`s the only right guy. The next franchise is gonna be s**t!
  • Yeah, thats what people said about The Joker too. Actors are replaced ALL THE TIME.
  • John K.
    kay, whatever, i just can`t picture anybody other than tobey being perfect as Spidey for any version of Spiderman. What about the Joker, Matt Keith? You mean something about Haeth being a good Joker? I thought he was well and sounded good as Jokker except ain`t he alot younger than Bale? rather see the villains be older than the hero but still thought heath fit preety well in the make up and costume. For me both Katie Holmes and Maggie Gyllenhal did fine as Rachael Dawes. Maggie Gyllenhal looked pretty attractive in TDk but i couldn`t stable my mind to see which one was better. Both were preety much the same.

    If there is a reboot, who`s the best person to replace Tobey? It seems the 2 spidey franchises will go reversed from the 2 batman franchises, the old batman franchise has the wrong actors while the new one has the right actor as the old spidey`s have the right actor but the new one`s will have the wrong actor(s).

    What`s the matter with some of you with Tobey as Spidey? Too ugly? too old? definately not too ugly or too handsome kinda in the middle(which is what i call, "average) but too old? hmm, right now, i don`t think he`s really THAT old to play spidey, but they better try makin peter grow up to be about 24/25 instead of doing all the tests to make him look 13/14 years younger.
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