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  • Niall
    Don't get me wrong- I'll probabaly cross-over at some point, but the replacement frenzy that I went through in the early noughties won't be repeated. Except maybe with Star Wars and Indiana Jones! I'm sure that I'll be buying those films for years to come in different formats!
    Isn't that right George??

    I'm just going to wait 'til the prices drop- big time on the hardware

    Niall
  • Sector311
    Niall said...
    "I am from Ireland- so I might as well be from the future!!"

    LOL Niall!! Every post you did just became irrelevant to me because of your last post!

    Since you are from Ireland, buy at least some HD equipment so you would at least understand what is being talked about.

    Anyway it is now official.
    I quote "Toshiba said Tuesday that it would cease production of its HD DVD players and recorders immediately and close out the business by the end of March." - The Wallstreet Journal

    Still, I do not regret buying the Toshiba HD-A1 HD-DVD Player because I still can use it to play all my DVD collections upscaled to HD.

    In the meantime, my PS3 should be my official HD player at the same time enjoying it's full functions as game machine and media center including Yellow Dog Linux as my seconday OS to explore on other capabilities of the machine (from the future! LOL Niall!!)
  • Niall
    I am from Ireland- so I might as well be from the future!!
  • steve adams
    Allthough it appears Bluray has won the battle I myself would not reccomend going out to upgrade.

    Things are gonna change and personally I feel that Bluray won't last long reguardless.
  • sector311
    Niall said..
    "You won't have to convert to Bluray in the future because Bluray won't become dominant in the marketplace..."

    How did you know Niall? did you come from the future? And how far from the future are you referring to? 15 years? 20 years from now? Please be specific so your info becomes significant.

    I have the Toshiba HD-A1 HD-DVD Player and also a PS3. I bought the Toshiba player because I wanted to watch the Transformers on HD. Of course I enjoyed the other free movies that came with it too.

    I own a lot of dvd collections but I'm starting to build up my new favorites on blu-ray though. I am not replacing my current dvd collections to blu-ray because they play great on my PS3 or Toshiba being upscaled to HD.

    Going off topic though, playing my backup DVD rips using the PS3 connected wireless to my media server gave significant improvement on the upscaled video too.
  • Well Niall at least you can still play DVDs on Blu-Ray players and they're supposed to look better than when you play them on standard DVD units. :-)

    Vic
  • Niall
    I hope not Steve- my girlfriend will kill me!!!
    Niall
  • steve adams
    Great thing about dvds Niall is that they play in allmost all devices these days. And will in the future as well.
    ^
    You won't have to convert to Bluray in the future because Bluray won't become dominant in the marketplace...
    ^
    (IMO)
    Its the Edsel of formats.
  • Niall
    I'm proud of my DVD collection, and I have been trying to avoid reading about all the HD/ blu-ray shenanigans, but- hey it's hard to avoid reading a site that you write for :-)
    I think that I'm just going to keep buying regular DVD'S in the mean-time- my collection is just too huge to start over again- and I'll probably connect to blu-ray at some point- but it won't be like when I replaced my VHS with DVD's.
    Bloody Technology!!
    Niall
  • steve adams
    Dvd's forever!!
    ^
    Or at least the next 5 years!!!
    ^
    Even if streaming technology is perfected I won't be joining THAT club for a very long time...if ever.
  • Vic
    Hugh,

    Dude... you're funny. Buying a HD-DVD player out of spite. :-)

    In a way I agree with you... the problem is that now technology evolves so quickly that the current thing becomes obsolete faster and faster. VHS lasted 20 years but DVD has been around for what? 10 years? Will Blu-Ray be the next big thing for only 5 years?

    Even if things go to downloads/VOD, the hardware will become obsolete and you'll need the next version just like this DVD/Blu-Ray situation!

    Vic
  • Smitty
    Sticking with my trusty DVD format for now. I will wait probably a year or two to upgrade. I will first upgrade the T.V. (Looking for the perfect one as we speak).

    On another note, what did you think of Knight Rider??
  • screw them both
    This 'format war' is an avalanche of excrement, a parade of endless and already obsolete techno-debris for which only the most ignorant segment of the consumer market is applauding like trained seals. I went out and bought an HDA3 from Best Buy tonight out of pure spite, I loudly proclaimed my disgust all the way through the store, and I have absolutely no intention of ever using it.
    Here's hoping HD-DVD makes a gargantuan comeback and John Q Consumer cold shoulders both formats back to the stone age while waiting for HVD or HDVOD or whichever of the dozen next gen formats hits first.

    signed
    Hugh R Abunchofdemagoguingcrooks
  • Jim Carey
    I believe Blu-Ray or whatever will be a moot point as people will be able to download media, and the various media become interconnected. We see it happening with music.

    I don't tend to watch movies over and over, so I prefer to rent.

    Andy, I also would like transmitted movies to have watch-anytime features at no extra charge (or maybe a 30 day limit. I think Amazon Unbox allows repeat viewings or intermittent viewings for about a month).

    I tend to watch special features within a day or two of the movie. With a TV series, the DVD may have 3-5 episodes, and commentary/deleted scenes for each one. That's a lot to digest, even with a long rental cycle. So far, the movie downloads I've viewed did not include extras.
  • Andy
    One more point to consider. I love the extras on the DVD's-deleted scenes, commentaries, featurettes, etc. If I have to pay to D/L the movie, am I going to have to pay to view these extras as well?? I like that, for the most part, they're bonus material to enjoy at my leisure. I like that I can have the option to watch that at any point, and if I don't get to finish watching it I can finish at another time WITHOUT PAYING FOR IT AGAIN!!!

    Plus I love walking into my living room and seeing my DVD and CD collection right there....
  • steve adams
    Andy I'm with you!

    (IMO),Its preferible to have a physical dvd/vhs library.

    I wouldnt want to live in a purely streaming
    world. Talk about control.

    I for one,hope we can hold that world back as much as possible for now!

    Ijust spent 30 bucks for the Indiana Jones dvd collection and they look great!! Cool box too!
  • Mike
    Re

    This is only "interesting" but you must have a crap player and/or screen if thats how you see a standard DVD currently

    http://www.cornbread.org/FOTRCompare/index.html

    Geeze - My standard DVDs look better on my Oppo upscaler DVD player than the so called HD in this so called demo!
  • Mike
    I have an Oppo Upscaling DVD player - on par with Bluray and with the cost of a new player and discs. Stick with DVDs - an upscaler will give you the same quality..
  • steve adams
    Hey Vic you have a good point about current bandwidth limitations.

    However this will change when more areas are covered with Fiber Opitics.

    Once the Phone companies acheive a better Fiber Optic backbone they can use a technology called (DWDM) Dense Wavelength Divison Multiplexing. This allows one strand of fiber to carry over 125HD channels of data. Everywhere you look in the changing technology you see this beginning to happen.

    These format wars are just the latest fad to suck everyone into spending money on short term products that will be obsolete in a matter of years.
    ^
    I'm really surprised people fall for this scam.
    Dvd's look great on a HD tv (btw) to spend more money to have the best of the best just
    dosnt make fanancial sense to me. Especally when in a few years all media will availible online in HD.

    The supporters of BluRay will loose in the end due to new streaming technology and the fact that BluRay don't cover any of the adult films...
    ^
    Ed,the carbon-nano-tube technology IMO will be used to compress data more in streaming applications.

    This will also assist in the bandwidth problem Vic was talking about.
  • AT CES 2008, Netflix kinda brushed it aside. VUDU is the way to go:

    www.vudu.com

    heath
  • Andy
    What I will probably do when I finally switch over to HDTV and BluRay is buy ONLY my favorite movies that are in my collection right now on the BluRay, such as Indiana Jones, Spaceballs, Star Wars Trilogy and some of the Star Trek movies. Those are the ones I watch the most anyway.

    I do think that downloading is going to be the next big thing, especially over PPV. I believe Netflix is going to be offering a console for high speed d/l's. I do agree with Vic, however, that most people will still want to buy their favorite films so they can have the movie on the shelf. One of the things I loved about VHS was for my Star Trek films. When lined up in order, there was a picture of the Enterprise formed from the boxes.
  • steve adams
    BluRay , HD dosnt matter at all too me I'm happy with dvds.
    ^
    And I'm not about to spend the money to jump on this next media upgrade.
  • Vic
    That's a great way to show the difference.

    Thanks,

    Vic
  • Ed
    By the way, this site demonstrates the difference between DVD and HD-DVD(/Blu-Ray) pretty well.

    http://www.cornbread.org/FOTRCompare/index.html
  • Wow, guys - what a great bunch of info you've shared! I wasn't aware that there was a next gen of Blu-Ray tech right around the corner...

    Also, I've also read that even regular DVDs look better on a Blu-Ray player, but I assume they still don't look as good as actual hi-def media.

    Actually, I was a very early adopter on HDTV - I have an old Mitsubishi VS-50800 that has connectors on the back that are now obsolete (RGBHV) with the new HD tech. If I want to get HD on it I'll have to purchase some sort of adapter-connector.

    As far as digital downloads, I'm wondering what will happen if that starts to go mainstream since there already seem to be bandwidth issues with providers debating charging by amount used and such.

    Vic
  • By the way, I did an article on which HDTVs are great, right now, to buy:

    http://www.consumerelectronicsnet.com/articles/viewarticle.jsp?id=294215

    heath
  • Andy
    I am sure that eventually I will be purchasing a BluRay player, but for the time being I will stick with my good 'ol DVD player. I still have a regular 27" analog TV that I watch movies on and an upgrade to BluRay at this juncture would just be dumb. Eventually I plan on purchasing an HDTV and I will at that point probably get a BluRay player, but for now I will continue to buy DVD's since the BluRay players upconvert to something I don't mind watching.
  • I'm planning on buying a player in the future but right now I'm holding off. A quick price check online shows the cheapest stand alone players are still $399. My price point is $200 or less.

    Add to that how the current players aren't fully compatible with "future discs" and that makes me want to wait as well.

    The idea of getting a PS3 is also appealing. But essentially even though the war is won, the price and technology isn't at the point where I'll commit right now.
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