‘Snowpiercer’ Review

Published 4 months ago by , Updated October 7th, 2014 at 1:18 am,

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All in all, Snowpiercer is definitive proof that there is a growing market for moderately-budgeted blockbuster films – that is,  if you approach things from a global market perspective.

Snowpiercer imagines a future where an attempt to fix global warming backfires, plunging earth into another ice age. The only survivors of the calamity are the passengers aboard “The Snowpiercer,” a massive train powered by a perpetual engine, which makes one lap around the globe on a yearly cycle. Within the microcosm world of the Snowpiercer, a social hierarchy is quickly established: the poor, weak, and destitute are confined to the tail, while the wealthy, powerful and affluent members of society live towards the front of the train, where their leader/god – the industrialist Mr. Wilford – dutifully maintains the engine.

The twist comes when a young tough from tail section named Curtis (Chris Evans) decides to lead his people in revolt. After quickly seizing control of a few cars, Curtis and company free prisoner Namgoong Minsoo (Kang-ho Song), the security officer who built the doors to each section of the train, as well as his eccentric daughter, Yona (Ah-sung Ko). Namgoong agrees to aid the revolution for a price: Curtis must supply him with a piece of “Kronol” (an addictive drug made out of toxic waste) for every door hacked into. With a plan to guide them, Curtis and his rebels begin to claim car after car in the name of socioeconomic justice; however, Snowpiercer’s bureaucratic overlord, Mason (Tilda Swinton), won’t let Curtis succeed without a fight. As blood begins to flow, the Curtis revolution not only upsets the social order – it could literally derail The Snowpiercer and bring and end to humanity’s time.

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The newest work of Korean filmmaker Joon-ho Bong (The Host (cult-classic 2006 monster movie, not the Stephenie Meyer tween drama)), Snowpiercer is a piece B-movie science fiction brought to life in highly impressive fashion and distinguished by the uniqueness of its world, the compellingly oddball characters that populate it, and a signature filmmaking style that has earned Joon-ho Bong a cult following. And it’s a following that is sure to grow exponentially, if he keeps making movies like this one.

On a directorial level, Joon-ho makes the most out of a modest budget (estimated at $39.6 million) to create the world of the Snowpiercer train society. Maybe the sole flaw in the movie is that, at times, its visual effects show their budgetary limitations (see: exterior shots of the frozen world or moving train); however, for the most part, the sets (and characters) are gritty and dark and convincingly real in their near-future designs and tech. Each “car” of the train reveals a set piece distinctly different than the one before, yet consistent within the context and aesthetic of the film. Each step of the journey is made to be worthwhile and interesting – often chilling, like something out of an Orwellian nightmare – and sci-fi fans will get a kick out of this particular version of the post-apocalyptic (dis)order.

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That’s not to say that Joon-ho’s achievement can only be measured in aesthetic; there is some great direction at work in the film – from the shot choices and imagery, to the brutal action sequences that come in unrelenting and violent waves. Snowpiercer mixes eastern and western cinematic signatures into a refreshingly unique brew, which only further helps distinguish this oddly wonderful world.

Joon-ho also composes the tone of his film into flawless movements between stark and serious social commentary, over-the-top action, and almost cartoonish brutality, and plays those alterations in perfect harmony. Cinephiles will also notice homages to some directorial greats – such as Kubrickian and Hitchcockian technique for creating intense and effective moments of horror and suspense, respectively. Joon-ho proves to be both a well-studied and yet uniquely avant-garde composer of his film world.

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Kang-ho Song in ‘Snowpiercer’

Before the Devil Knows You’re Dead screenwriter Kelly Masterson helps Joon-ho adapt the French graphic novel Le Transperceneige (by Jacques Lob, Benjamin Legrand and Jean-Marc Rochette) into a smart (and often darkly witty) sci-fi parable / social allegory. There are great (often hip) exchanges of banter (sometimes in different languages) – yet also odd-yet-effective pauses for Shakespearean monologues that marry east/west philosophical quandary with topics like murder and cannibalism. There are speeches and lines in Snowpiercer that will likely be burned into your brain alongside the imagery; that alone is a testament to the potency of what Bong and Masterson have created on the page.

The metaphorical parallels to contemporary society are very on-the-nose, but they are also thankfully stripped of political leanings in order to focus on larger philosophical questions of how society is structured and how it functions. The movie is not afraid to take those questions on directly, and handles them with enough complexity to make the build up exciting, and the ultimate payoff as thought-provoking and satisfying (intellectually) as it is entertaining.

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Chris Evans in ‘Snowpiercer’

A great cast absolutely makes this film better than it could’ve otherwise been, and every player earns his/her spot. Chris Evans is pretty much a revelation as a leading man; the difference between Evans in a complex and layered role like this, and the hollow persona he dons to play Marvel’s Captain America is stunning. Curtis is a character who grows deeper and more compelling as the film goes on, and Evans delivers each level of the performance perfectly. After a few Marvel films, his skills on the action front are just as accomplished; Curtis is as formidable and badass as he is deep. A great character and great role to show what Chris Evans could be as a free agent.

The Host stars Kang-ho Song and Ah-sung Ko re-team with Joon-ho to play a pair of great foils for Curtis. Song is all old-school Hollywood cool as Namgoong, while Ko is all plucky and cute as Yona, often creating a humorous juxtaposition to the many horrific circumstances our heroes face along the way. Iconic actor John Hurt brings the necessary gravitas as Curtis’ righteous mentor, Gilliam; Jamie Bell (Turn), Ewen Bremner (AVP) and Octavia Spencer (The Help) have the skill to quickly and deftly create secondary rebel characters we like and care about; while Luke Pasqualino (The Borgias) shines in some well-choreographed action sequences as Gilliam’s bodyguard, Grey.

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The Cast of ‘Snowpiercer’

On the villain side, Tilda Swinton steals (and chews) many a scene as a ridiculous bureaucrat caricature who is almost hilariously sociopathic in her stern speeches about the natural hierarchy of society. Eastern European actors Adnan Haskovic and Vlad Ivanov are frighteningly good as Franco the Elder and Franco the Younger, Mason’s henchman; Haskovic steals his part of the show, playing Elder as a ruthless and shockingly brutal stone-faced maniac. Other famous faces pop up for cameo roles along the way through the train – most of them are best enjoyed in surprise (don’t watch too many trailers).

All in all, Snowpiercer is definitive proof that there is a growing market for moderately-budgeted blockbuster films – that is,  if you approach things from a global market perspective. It’s blend of unique vision, strong execution (in action, wit, and humor) and compelling characters (brought to life by a skilled ensemble) culminate in one of the year’s best bets for a dark horse hit. If Transformers 4 is everything that makes you sick about modern sci-fi, this movie is your medicine. See it. ‘One of the best of the year,’ indeed.

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  1. I was hoping to hear positive news from this movie. The review brought a smile on my face.

  2. don’t agree.
    Was dissapointed,

    • Well, this would be a good place to tell us why, don’t you think?

      • ( Spoiler ) No matter what there actions the train was going to get Derailed by an avalanche

        • * Spoiler * Not true it was caused by the C4 explosion.

    • Hm disagree was dissapointed…transformers was better but this website is not a good place to say a transformers movie is good

  3. I thought the movie was full of holes. and I literally laughed at it when Chris gave his speech about eating babies (babies taste best!!) it was one of the dumbest scenes i’ve ever seen. its dystopian sci fi films like this that make it harder to take the genre seriously. trying to shoot a B style movie on purpose with A list actors gives you things like Crank, and Shoot em Up and please don’t let that crap further into sci fi.

    • Yeah I think the dialogue in that scene needed to be a lot better. Everyone at the screening I saw laughed out loud, when it was supposed to be a pretty big part of the characters back story. I think if you can get over the fact that everyone got on a train after a global ice age, and push past the dialogue issues in some scenes, it could easily get 3.5 out of 5.

      I wonder if maybe there was a bit of miscommunication between Korean and English with the dialogue?

      • Come on, who doesn’t like a standard “rich people are evil and poor people are good” story?? lol

    • I could not hold it in and I laughed hysterically at the ridiculousness of the plot, the holes and especially the part that Babies taste best. The Night vision fight scene looked like it was cut from a syfy film original. I have no idea how this movie has gotten positive reviews – This was one of the dumbest movies I’ve seen and that says alot.

      • Now that almost makes me want to watch it, lol.

  4. 4.5? I am amazed. I would’ve given it 2. Maybe I should watch it again and not fall asleep this time, I’m clearly missing out.

    • Maybe, just maybe, this is more about taste & quality being 2 distinct beasts (which you’re hopefully not forced to eat if vegetarian…lol)

      I agree with the review, but I also wouldn’t recommend this film to most of the ppl I know now. Zip to do with the flick’s quality, it’s about peoples’ tastes. 20 years ago, I WOULD have recommended Snowpiercer to most ppl I know cuz the ppl I knew back then are quite different than those I know today.

  5. I really liked it. Thought it wasn’t perfect, but was pretty awesome. One of the best of the year, and one you can watch over and over.

    I do admit I didn’t quite buy Evans in his monologue, but he was trying, and it’s clear he wants to do more complex roles than CA. Overall, he was good though.

  6. Yeah, I would have to agree with some other people in here. I didn’t see an epic movie that warranted a 4.5 rating. I thought the plot was full of holes, Evans was average at best and some of the lines he had was downright hysterical. I love the concept of the movie as a whole and like a lot of movies now a days, the visuals were great but the overall storyline or plot was just all over the place. Normally, a good director can hide those type of plot holes and still make an epic movie. Nolan comes to mind. The guy has movies that has swiss cheese type plot holes but because he’s such a great director he knows how to hide them or not have it take away from the movie. I would have given this movie a 3/5 at best

  7. I don’t know…the whole concept of movie sounds stupid. Are we running out of ideas? I just can’t take this stuff seriously.

    • Here’s an idea: watch it before you badmouth it.

      • Fury, with age and experience comes wisdom. I’ve seen thousands of movies in my lifetime, and that’s what gives me the right to critique the plot. I’m not attacking the movie per se, just the concept. “A train with unlimited power that is able to run forever, and a crew made up of humanity, segregated by class that rebels against their masters.” Please, if you’re 12, than this may impress you, but I’m an adult.

        • Some will likely consider it to be a “profound” commentary on the human condition, but others, like myself…dumbed-down propaganda and rubbish.

        • Broadcasting prejudice is not a sign of wisdom.

        • There is no wisdom in taking to the internet to criticize a movie you have not seen.

          Go see it, and then you will have the experience and wisdom of having viewed it.

          You sound more like a teenage troll masquerading as an “adult.”

          • People form opinions about movies based on descriptions and trailers all of the time. Please don’t assert that you have never done that. There is absolutely nothing wrong with it. Else, we would all be wasting money on movies that we don’t want to see.

            • I changed my mind.

              Evan & Jeff: Definitely do NOT see Snowpiercer. No matter what you do, NEVER watch it.

              Save your money for Transformers 4. You will both be much happier.

              • So I’m assuming you actually wasted your money and saw Transformers 4, else you would not be conveying/implying an opinion about it…

                You see how that works?

                • Thanks, brain surgeon. But I was aware of the irony when I posted it.

                  And to further spell it out for you, you can’t really compare the apples and oranges. We’ve all seen Michael Bay’s consistently repeated style, and there have been 3 Transformer movies before this one. So even without watching the preview, we all can reasonably know what to expect from T4. Not so with Snowpiercer.

                  If you take the time to visit this site, you clearly like movies they feature here. And there will be SOMETHING of value you’d take away from Snowpiercer. So watch it (pay or don’t pay) before you take the time to badmouth it with vague, meaningless comments like “This reeks strongly of a certain distorted and misguided world viewpoint.” I’m afraid to ask what that even means in your head, for several reasons, not least of which is the fact that a viewpoint can’t technically be “misguided” since it’s an opinion. And less so when portrayed in fiction.

                  • What’s it mean…

                    “Poor people good, rich people bad.” That appears to be the basic premise of this garbage.

                    • But isn’t that true? If you say no, I’m going to occupy your front lawn, because that proves something…

                  • Wait, so you haven’t seen Transformers 4? Why are you implying it is bad then? Just because there were others? There were other movies like Snowpiercer too, there was Elysium not too long ago. Then there was In Time too…

                • LMAO!!! Holy crap, that was actually really good….

                  • Was referring to Jeff’s comment BTW, not Fury’s…

              • Fury, I don’t want to be too harsh on you because it sounds like you’re a kid. (I’m beginning to figure out that this is a web site for teenagers.) I may watch Snowpiercer, but probably not. Because, I’m real selective with what movies I watch. And I will never in a million years watch a Transformer movie. For the same reason I won’t watch Snowpiercer. Because it looks stupid. As Jeff said better than I could, we prejudge movies all the time based upon the previews. So what’s the big deal. In my humble opinion, this film looks ridiculous. Lots of movies do. Just don’t go around trashing other people because you disagree with them.

                • Evan, if you don’t want to watch it, then don’t. No one cares, least of all, me.

                  But you posting negative remarks about a movie you have not seen is pointless and only serves to make you look like someone trying to stir up trouble.

                  By all means, if you watch the movie and hate it, tell us WHY, using concrete examples. But until you’ve seen the movie, you’re just a f@rt in the wind.

                  I am Toys R Us kid.

                  • Fury, as much as you may dislike it, people are allowed to express their opinions. Feel free to disagree with what they are saying, but don’t attempt to silence them, nor suggest that they be quiet. That would be arrogance, egocentrism, and elitism on your part.

                    • You ignored the part where I just told Evan I’d like to hear his informed opinion AFTER he’s seen the movie. That’s my opinion. You’re not trying to silence me are you?

                      “See how that works?”

                      In other news, someone who’s never eaten pizza before just took to the web to rant about how it looks disgusting and must surely taste awful.

                    • @Fury

                      Oh, so he’s only allowed to comment on it after he’s met your criteria? How generous of you! You hear that guys? Now stop harping on my friend Fury…

            • Thank you Jeff, I appreciate the backup. It’s hard to argue with somebody like this. I’ll get your back if this ever happens to you.

              • Logic makes debating quite difficult for lesser minds.

                Maybe we can train you. Work on this:

                If all bloops are sloops, are all sloops bloops?

                • …and now you resort to belittling someone? Thus, you have lost the “debate” in which you thought you were engaging, whereas for Evan and I, it was just a discussion. Perhaps we’ll talk again, when you are better tempered to attend. Take care.

                  • I accept your surrender.

                    • I thought once you turn to ad hominem, you’re the one that’s surrendering? Or am I understanding this wrong?

              • You’re welcome, Evan. If you are relatively new to the site, I also believe it is frequented by a lot of teenagers. My presumption would be that they are most often the commentators who use pseudonyms, instead of their real first names, and those who get emotional and attempt to “shout” you down during discussions. You responded well, in that I don’t think you were too harsh. Remember when we were that age, and we thought we knew everything, too. :)

                • Golly gee, Gomer. You’ve just fooled us all with your phony mature-moral-high-road shtick.

                  • Damn man, it’s hard to argue with such a well-composed individual. I think Jeff and Evan are humbled by the regal attitude you’ve brought to this immature environment…

                    • Oh shut up, Ken J. You’re like an annoying little puppy going after attention, replying to someone else’s argument.

                    • And now you’re replying, lol. :-D

        • NO age comes with The Prescient Flavor of Wisdom. In short, age doesn’t make you psychic. Either you’ve seen it or you haven’t.

          Aside from the fact that a boatload (lol) of older ppl are crazy about it, there’s one piece of Prescient Wisdom: Age cultivates one of two things; a mind open or closed. If what makes you tick is to figure out stuff before you’ve ever seen, read or done it, guess what that is.

          Oh, and if it’s the premise that irks you, what do you think about the premises of stories told by Brecht or Chekhov, Sartre…etc? All their works begin with rather ridiculous premises, but it’s what the premise offers as a means to explore difficult issues. It’s an allegory.

          • …and we ALL know that children don’t have minds that are closed, repositories of limited information, and focused solely on what they want.

            Please.

          • “If what makes you tick is to figure out stuff before you’ve ever seen, read or done it, guess what that is.”

            Ah…maybe educated and experienced discernment.

            • Thanks for making my point.

              I’ll have Bizarro send you my bill.

              So stay, don’t move; I’ve seen things move before, so I’ll know where you are.

              lol Peace out

              • If your point was that you are not nearly as “advanced” or “enlightened” as you think you are, I am glad to have obliged.

                • Opps, no, you see that’s your point. In time, keeping track will get easier.

                  Scaling down a tad, it’s like this:

                  You’re a french shower. Get wet.

                  And get(a) tossed salad-brain(iac).

                  • Hm. Resorting to name-calling.

                    Well, there it is…

                    You’ve just made my point.

                    Take care, Karmick.

    • running out of idea!?!?! come they are trying something new and we have more original story than ever before

  8. From the first trailer I saw of this last year, to the glowing comments I heard on the latest SR Podcast. ‘SnowPiercer,’ looks like a movie that’s worth seeing no mater where it’s playing. Great Review Kofi!

  9. This reeks strongly of a certain distorted and misguided world viewpoint.

    No thanks.

  10. it was a nice movie, not the best, but nice and different from the norm. i think that’s why most people don’t like it – it’s not cliché and boring and has a deep moral message embedded amongst all the chaos going on. common sheep will hate this movie b/c s*** doesn’t blow up every 2 minutes or they don’t play ‘serious’ music when characters are talking therefore it doesn’t feel ‘dark’ *cough*nolans garbage batman movies *cough*.

    • Yes, this movie looks really different, just like Elysium, In Time, Robin Hood…

  11. I saw it about 6 months ago and I found it cliched and stereotypical.
    But it is one of those films that critics love – washed out colours and dystopian.

    • @Speakman

      Don’t forget the class warfare. Critics love class warfare…

      • Agree with you, Ken. It does seem like a large number of critics, for whatever reason, gravitate to that dumbed-down concept of “rich people bad, poor people good” in film. I presume it makes them feel like they are grasping some “insightful” social commentary that others just don’t seem to get or understand. Whenever I see a movie so overtly defined by it, I am immediately repelled, as ultimately, the notion tends to divide people, and we end up with the criminal element and/or “occupy” crowd feeling emboldened and justified in their criminality, dependency, and sense of entitlement.

        • Man, what is your problem with movies that take a critical perspective on the way society is structured? It’s a friggin movie, for one, and you don’t necessarily have to agree with it’s underlying message to enjoy it.

          And honestly Snowpiercer’s “left-winged” and “radical” agenda is actually a lot more nuanced than one might think, especially in regards to a revelation at the very end of the film, and especially compared to Elysium, which was a really flawed movie. I mean doesn’t the fact the Tilda Swinton’s character is so ridiculously over-the-top and cartoonish show that it’s not taking itself and its message too seriously? Also the whole time the lower-class passengers are undertaking their revolution, the amount of death and pain that result are clearly taking a toll on the main characters and really make them and the audience question whether the whole revolution is actually worth it. Not as black and white as one thinks.

          If you guys could get over your strict adherence to the idea that society is completely fair even though inequal opportunities exists then you could maybe enjoy a movie with an original (albiet ridiculous) concept, thrilling action sequences, characters you’re actually invested in, and a genuine sense of surprise. For me, the fact that I was genuinely surprised by several plot points alone made it better than almost any action movie I’ve seen in a while.

          • I can’t speak for everyone, but the fact that you end your statement with “If you guys” (plural) implying that you think all of us feels that way, motivates me to reply to you. I don’t think I’ve ever tried to claim that the world is perfect or fair. Not by a long shot. What I REALLY dislike are movies that take on this oversimplified view of things. This perspective that Hollywood likes to push that doesn’t just paint any “system” in a poor light, but paints the individuals in a poor light. As if Bill Gates is some super evil-doer just because he was successful while others were not… It’s this general message promoting class warfare that I really dislike about a lot of these movies. Please tell me, how different is separating people by class and assigning them “good” and “bad” compared to separating people by any other quality, like race, sexual preference, or anything? It’s a form of prejudice in my book and I dislike any over-simplification of any topic like that, and these kinds of movies do exactly that… I’m pretty poor right now, but I’m striving to be successful. Does that somehow mean I’m striving to be evil? Like I’m Dr. Evil in training? It sounds ridiculous, but when you watch all of these movies, you’ll realize that they are pretty much pushing this ridiculous message…

            • I appreciate you offering a reply. I also don’t like movies that present an oversimplified view of things, which is why I didn’t like Elysium very much. It had a lot of really gaping plot holes, lots of Deus Ex Machina, and absolutely no characterization of the residents of Elysium, and didn’t really offer that much of what life was like there. I also don’t like Michael Moore’s documentaries because they are so one-sided and oversimplify issues.

              Yes, Snowpiercer’s concept is batsh&*%t crazy and yes class warfare is a pretty heavy theme but the world contained in the movie is so specific and different the present day that it is unlikely that people will watch it and actually think, “Man, the rich in our society really do suck” because it is so outlandish. Despite this, as I stated in my earlier post, the ending of the film actual offers a really complex and interesting logic behind the caste system of the train that really pushes the films morals beyond the “rich people bad, poor people good” perspective that many of the posters in this discussion claim it to have. I mean I’m am definitely liberal and was obviously rooting for the lower class in the train but when the ending came I literally sat by and thought, “Sh*&t, that sort of does make sense to have the train divided like that”. Your comparison of class resentment to prejudice is the exact over simplification that you claim to despise. I mean, you can think that society is unjust in some capacities and still not automatically hate everyone who earns a certain income.

              And no, I don’t think that all rich people are evil. But I am severely annoyed by people who will dismiss a film because its they think its “garbage” message doesn’t match their own ideology. I mean seriously, if you don’t want to experience an art form that exaggerates the ills of society for the purpose of critiquing our world then I guess you might as well just avoid the whole genre of Science Fiction, because thats what it is most of the time.

              Yes I am a liberal. I am also a lover of film, and I was very impressed with Snowpiercer. I found it to be a really engaging experience and honestly just a refresher from action films that don’t challenge their audience with any type of thought.

              But I suppose I just liked it because I’m a left-winged moron and I basically froth a the mouth at the thought of the poor killing the rich!

              • @Wally

                “Your comparison of class resentment to prejudice is the exact over simplification that you claim to despise.” Um, no, sorry. There is nothing in my OPINION that people who engage in class warfare is prejudiced is in any way oversimplified. If you’re saying that, then you better take it up with the English language because the very definition of a prejudice is a preconceived notion about someone or group based on some classification of that person or group. This can be race, gender, sexual preference, SOCIO-ECONOMIC CLASS, or anything else. Of course, when people read that, they automatically assume it is prejudice by the rich people against the poor, which, yes, definitely also exists, but it goes both ways and I dislike either one.

                I’m pretty surprised you just openly admit to being a liberal. Most liberals I know try to think of any other political leaning or system to claim they identify with besides liberal. I think they want to make themselves feel smarter than being one of the “typical” two leanings predominant in the USA. The most popular I hear is “libertarian” because it sounds enough like liberal but sounds fancier. Of course, this is funny because a libertarian is actually more right-wing than a conservative, lmao! But shhh, don’t tell them that, I enjoy hearing them say that thinking they sound smart while they spout off all of the typical liberal talking points… I do believe that the two-party system is really flawed though as BOTH parties believe in things that contradict each other. Which makes it more amusing to hear people claim they believe in all of these things despite their self contradictions. Yet they deny that they belong to that political party, lol. :-D

                Oh, and if you don’t mind, can you just share what the ending had that changed the perspective? Just put a SPOILER ALERT before it so those who care would not read it accidentally. I’m not going to watch the movie, so don’t worry about spoiling it for me. I’m just curious what got you to rethink certain aspects or perceptions you had of the plot points in the movie…

                • First off, thank you for your very accurate definition of the word “prejudice”. Apparently my undergraduate degree in sociology must have skipped over that concept. Second of all, my statement about class resentment (not class warfare) was referring to people being critical of the fact that SOCIETY (not individual people) functions in a way where some are born with more opportunities than others. I did not mean portraying or describing someone as evil simply because of their wealth. You saying that someone who is critical of social inequality is prejudiced is the same oversimplification as calling a politician who does not support welfare that benefits poor African American families a racist. Both statements put oversimplified labels on people for the purpose of winning an argument.

                  I would also like to thank you for two other things:
                  1.) Admitting that you have not seen Snowpiercer, as it really illuminates that your arguments against this movie are based not on knowledge of said movie but on PREJUDICE (remember prejudice “is a preconceived notion about someone or group based on some classification of that person or group {or a movie in this case}). You assume this movie is garbage because it has been classified by others as left-leaning.
                  2.) Taking the time to continually undercut your argument by going on a seriously random tirade about how lame and hypocritical liberals are. You really took the bait on that one.

                  Last, no I will not oblige your request to learn the end of the movie (and yes, it is out of spite). You may just have to actually watch the movie you love to bash to find that one out.

                  • @Wally

                    Wow, sociology, I took several sociology classes when I needed a boost in my GPA. Sort of interesting. Better than taking art classes for the same reason I would have to admit, I’m not very artistic so I actually might not get an A in those classes… Anyway, I was talking about people who engage in class warfare. So thanks for discussing a completely irrelevant topic. It’s very interesting, I’ll be sure to include some of that material if I ever decide to write some memoirs. But in terms of this discussion we’re having here, you can use your strawperson argument somewhere else. Good thing all of this conversation is recorded in plain text, we can always go back and re-read what we all said, and here is my comment:

                    “how different is separating people by class and assigning them “good” and “bad” compared to separating people by any other quality, like race, sexual preference, or anything?”

                    Yah, I don’t see anywhere in my statement where I talk about class resentment or whatever it is you’re talking about. So again, very interesting topic you decided to start, but it wasn’t in reply to anything I’ve said. So I guess have fun with that argument with someone who’s actually arguing about that…

                    And I don’t see anywhere in my comments where I came anywhere close to comparing this movie with any political leaning. I believe you were the first to bring politics into this. I’m not left or right. I’m pro-choice, and pro-gay marriage, but I’m also pro-death penalty, and pro-gun. So where does that put me? LOL. Like I’ve said, I don’t like the premise of this movie because it promotes class warfare, which I think is stupid. And please, tell me again how that has anything to do with left or right or class resentment or any of these irrelevant things you’re trying to bring into this…

                    And I didn’t say liberals are hypocritical, learn to read, I’m sure your sociology degree required plenty of that, so put it to good use. And here is the magic of the recorded dialog in play again:

                    “I do believe that the two-party system is really flawed though as BOTH parties believe in things that contradict each other.”

                    Yes, unless somewhere along the lines I must have missed the memo where the liberals have been renamed “BOTH” I do believe that I’m talking about how BOTH (as in all of the two in case your sociology classes didn’t teach you the meaning of that word) major political parties in the country in which I reside (USA, and Republican and Democrat in case you’re wondering which “BOTH” I’m speaking of…) believe in things that contradict themselves…

                    So technically, I just said that members of BOTH parties are hypocritical. So how did you get the idea that I think only liberals are? Because that’s the only part that hurts your feelings?

                    Here’s an example: Republicans talk about smaller federal government and less federal government control. Yet they want a federal law banning gay marriage. To me, that’s contradictory. Oh crap, that was an example of the conservatives, not the liberals. I forgot that I’m only calling liberals hypocrites… :-D

                    And don’t worry, I’ll just look up the summary online, and even if I don’t find it there, I’m not THAT curious to watch the movie… Maybe if it ends up on netflix I’ll scroll to the end of the movie if anything…

                  • What the heck? Where did my reply go?? Anyway, I’m used to this website losing comments randomly, so I copied it first before trying to submit it, lol.

                    @Wally

                    Wow, sociology, I took several sociology classes when I needed a boost in my GPA. Sort of interesting. Better than taking art classes for the same reason I would have to admit, I’m not very artistic so I actually might not get an A in those classes… Anyway, I was talking about people who engage in class warfare. So thanks for discussing a completely irrelevant topic. It’s very interesting, I’ll be sure to include some of that material if I ever decide to write some memoirs. But in terms of this discussion we’re having here, you can use your strawperson argument somewhere else. Good thing all of this conversation is recorded in plain text, we can always go back and re-read what we all said, and here is my comment:

                    “how different is separating people by class and assigning them “good” and “bad” compared to separating people by any other quality, like race, sexual preference, or anything?”

                    Yah, I don’t see anywhere in my statement where I talk about class resentment or whatever it is you’re talking about. So again, very interesting topic you decided to start, but it wasn’t in reply to anything I’ve said. So I guess have fun with that argument with someone who’s actually arguing about that…

                    And I don’t see anywhere in my comments where I came anywhere close to comparing this movie with any political leaning. I believe you were the first to bring politics into this. I’m not left or right. I’m pro-choice, and pro-gay marriage, but I’m also pro-death penalty, and pro-gun. So where does that put me? LOL. Like I’ve said, I don’t like the premise of this movie because it promotes class warfare, which I think is stupid. And please, tell me again how that has anything to do with left or right or class resentment or any of these irrelevant things you’re trying to bring into this…

                    And I didn’t say liberals are hypocritical, learn to read, I’m sure your sociology degree required plenty of that, so put it to good use. And here is the magic of the recorded dialog in play again:

                    “I do believe that the two-party system is really flawed though as BOTH parties believe in things that contradict each other.”

                    Yes, unless somewhere along the lines I must have missed the memo where the liberals have been renamed “BOTH” I do believe that I’m talking about how BOTH (as in all of the two in case your sociology classes didn’t teach you the meaning of that word) major political parties in the country in which I reside (USA, and Republican and Democrat in case you’re wondering which “BOTH” I’m speaking of…) believe in things that contradict themselves…

                    So technically, I just said that members of BOTH parties are hypocritical. So how did you get the idea that I think only liberals are? Because that’s the only part that hurts your feelings?

                    Here’s an example: Republicans talk about smaller federal government and less federal government control. Yet they want a federal law banning gay marriage. To me, that’s contradictory. Oh carp (misspelling intentional), that was an example of the conservatives, not the liberals. I forgot that I’m only calling liberals hypocrites… :-D

                    And don’t worry, I’ll just look up the summary online, and even if I don’t find it there, I’m not THAT curious to watch the movie… Maybe if it ends up on netflix I’ll scroll to the end of the movie if anything…

                  • testing… My reply keeps not showing up, this stupid comment system pisses me off…

                  • Great, of course that test message shows up… I’m going to post my reply paragraph by paragraph to find out what this stupid comment system they use is filtering…

                    @Wally

                    Wow, sociology, I took several sociology classes when I needed a boost in my GPA. Sort of interesting. Better than taking art classes for the same reason I would have to admit, I’m not very artistic so I actually might not get an A in those classes… Anyway, I was talking about people who engage in class warfare. So thanks for discussing a completely irrelevant topic. It’s very interesting, I’ll be sure to include some of that material if I ever decide to write some memoirs. But in terms of this discussion we’re having here, you can use your strawperson argument somewhere else.

                  • Good thing all of this conversation is recorded in plain text, we can always go back and re-read what we all said, and here is my comment:

                    “how different is separating people by class and assigning them “good” and “bad” compared to separating people by any other quality, like race, sexual preference, or anything?”

                    Yah, I don’t see anywhere in my statement where I talk about class resentment or whatever it is you’re talking about. So again, very interesting topic you decided to start, but it wasn’t in reply to anything I’ve said. So I guess have fun with that argument with someone who’s actually arguing about that…

                  • And I don’t see anywhere in my comments where I came anywhere close to comparing this movie with any political leaning. I believe you were the first to bring politics into this. I’m not left or right. I’m pro-choice, and pro-gay marriage, but I’m also pro-death penalty, and pro-gun. So where does that put me? LOL. Like I’ve said, I don’t like the premise of this movie because it promotes class warfare, which I think is stupid. And please, tell me again how that has anything to do with left or right or class resentment or any of these irrelevant things you’re trying to bring into this…

                  • Ah, it’s this paragraph the stupid wordpress didn’t like, and I have a theory which word it is it doesn’t like, so I’ve altered it, let’s see if this works…

                    And I don’t see anywhere in my comments where I came anywhere close to comparing this movie with any political leaning. I believe you were the first to bring politics into this. I’m not left or right. I’m pro-choice, and pro-g@y marriage, but I’m also pro-death penalty, and pro-gun. So where does that put me? LOL. Like I’ve said, I don’t like the premise of this movie because it promotes class warfare, which I think is stupid. And please, tell me again how that has anything to do with left or right or class resentment or any of these irrelevant things you’re trying to bring into this…

                  • (OMFG wordpress is so stupid, I tried to paste the rest of it since I thought it was only that one stupid word it didn’t like, but apparently there’s something else, so back to the paragraph by paragraph method…)

                    And I didn’t say liberals are hypocritical, learn to read, I’m sure your sociology degree required plenty of that, so put it to good use. And here is the magic of the recorded dialog in play again:

                    “I do believe that the two-party system is really flawed though as BOTH parties believe in things that contradict each other.”

                    Yes, unless somewhere along the lines I must have missed the memo where the liberals have been renamed “BOTH” I do believe that I’m talking about how BOTH (as in all of the two in case your sociology classes didn’t teach you the meaning of that word) major political parties in the country in which I reside (USA, and Republican and Democrat in case you’re wondering which “BOTH” I’m speaking of…) believe in things that contradict themselves…

                  • (nevermind, it was the same word again…)

                    So technically, I just said that members of BOTH parties are hypocritical. So how did you get the idea that I think only liberals are? Because that’s the only part that hurts your feelings?

                    Here’s an example: Republicans talk about smaller federal government and less federal government control. Yet they want a federal law banning g@y marriage. To me, that’s contradictory. Oh crap, that was an example of the conservatives, not the liberals. I forgot that I’m only calling liberals hypocrites… :-D

                    And don’t worry, I’ll just look up the summary online, and even if I don’t find it there, I’m not THAT curious to watch the movie… Maybe if it ends up on netflix I’ll scroll to the end of the movie if anything…

                    • This argument has become really stupid and repetitive. You keep talking about class warfare and labeling people as evil because of their class bothers you. I’ve already acknowledged that I agree labeling people as bad simply because of their class is not something I care for. See my previous comments below for evidence:

                      “Second of all, my statement about class resentment (not class warfare) was referring to people being critical of the fact that SOCIETY (not individual people) functions in a way where some are born with more opportunities than others. I did not mean portraying or describing someone as evil simply because of their wealth.” Wish I could underline that last part.

                      “But I suppose I just liked it because I’m a left-winged moron and I basically froth a the mouth at the thought of the poor killing the rich!” Obviously a sarcastic statement expressing that I also do not think that people being judged as worthy of death for being rich is a good thing.

                      So I have already acknowledged and agreed with your argument that CLASS WARFARE (meaning actually killing people because of their wealth) or labeling people as bad because of their wealth is a bad thing.

                      On the other hand, I have been primarily talking about class resentment (or indignation at having been treated unfairly by a social system) and being critical of a SOCIAL SYSTEM (not individual people) since my very first comment: “Man, what is your problem with movies that take a critical perspective on the way society is structured?” I have continued to talk about class resentment in every one of my comments so it really shouldn’t be a surprise when I bring it up in my most recent one.

                      You have also acknowledged that you think there is inequality in society so I guess in that respect we are largely in agreement with one another. But one area we do NOT seem to agree is the idea that the movie SNOWPIERCER is stupid and promotes class warfare. I think that for one, it is a sci-fi move with an outlandish plot, and therefore does not have the power to make human minds think that the idea, “rich people bad, poor people good” is absolutely true. I also think that the content of the film includes nuance and actually questions whether a revolution by the poor is a good thing. Yes, it does paint some, not all, of the upper class citizens in a bad light because the plot needs an antagonist and it makes the film more entertaining. It also shows that the poor of the train are not universally good people. Additionally, I think that it is impossible to make a VALID judgement about a movie without actually seeing it, while you seem to think it is ok to make assumptions about a film without watching it first. I guess we will just have to agree to disagree on that one.

                      Also I’m aware that Sociology is somewhat of a soft major (its not like I didn’t notice how many college athletes from my university’s multi-million dollar sports programs were in my classes). I still found it to be very thought-provoking and the knowledge/skills that I gained from it have been useful in my work as an teacher and in the masters degree that I am finishing up. But I’m guessing that your major was pretty soft too, seeing as how you were able to take so many classes that didn’t directly apply to it. Of course, your college program must have been great seeing as how you’re such an enlightened individual. You support gay marriage AND gun rights!?!? Whoa, talk about a renaissance man!! I mean, is that even possible!?!?

                    • This argument has become really stupid and repetitive. You keep talking about class warfare and labeling people as evil because of their class bothers you. I’ve already acknowledged that I agree labeling people as bad simply because of their class is not something I care for. See my previous comments below for evidence:

                    • “Second of all, my statement about class resentment (not class warfare) was referring to people being critical of the fact that SOCIETY (not individual people) functions in a way where some are born with more opportunities than others. I did not mean portraying or describing someone as evil simply because of their wealth.” Wish I could underline that last part.

                      “But I suppose I just liked it because I’m a left-winged moron and I basically froth a the mouth at the thought of the poor killing the rich!” Obviously a sarcastic statement expressing that I also do not think that people being judged as worthy of death for being rich is a good thing.

                      So I have already acknowledged and agreed with your argument that CLASS WARFARE (meaning actually killing people because of their wealth) or labeling people as bad because of their wealth is a bad thing.

                    • “Second of all, my statement about class resentment (not class warfare) was referring to people being critical of the fact that SOCIETY (not individual people) functions in a way where some are born with more opportunities than others. I did not mean portraying or describing someone as evil simply because of their wealth.” Wish I could underline that last part.

                    • “But I suppose I just liked it because I’m a left-winged moron and I basically froth a the mouth at the thought of the poor killing the rich!” Obviously a sarcastic statement expressing that I also do not think that people being judged as worthy of death for being rich is a good thing.

                      So I have already acknowledged and agreed with your argument that CLASS WARFARE (meaning actually killing people because of their wealth) or labeling people as bad because of their wealth is a bad thing.

                    • @Wally

                      You’re right, it is pretty stupid and repetitive, because I’m saying one thing, and you’re replying as if I said something else. I’ve never said anything at all about class resentment, yet you’re replying to me as if I did. I’m only talking about how I dislike this thing Hollywood likes to do and that is painting individual people as these “evil” caricatures just because they are rich. If you agree with that, then exactly why are you arguing with me?? And you keep bringing up political parties, as if my original comment had anything to do with political party. Again, you’re putting words in my mouth and then arguing against it… So yes, you’re 100% right, this is a pretty stupid argument…

                      So now that we’ve got that resolved that you’re arguing over completely irrelevant things, have a nice rest of the day Wally. :-)

  12. When I was seeing X-Men DOFP, they showed this after commericial, before trailers. Whole auditorium was laughing, that this is some kind of good commericial, but when Chris Evans’ name popped up, everyone was “uuuh what the f..” and “:D”.

    Dunno should I go and see this on 11. July, because trailer was “parody” but..I could spend that 14 euros per 2d ticket for something else instead.

  13. This is the only movie I have sat down and watched from beginning to end in one go. If this is the last movie i watched for the rest of the year – I would be OK. This is definitely my movie of the year.

  14. I was really hoping to see this movie this weekend, but of course, it’s not playing anywhere near me :(

    • Just watch Robin Hood and imagine it on a train. Or if you don’t want to do that, just go watch Transformers since it’s apparently almost as good as this movie according to the review system here…

  15. So, 4.5 stars huh? Is this 1 star better than Edge of Tomorrow or 1 star better than Transformers: Age of Extinction?? Since both of those movies got the same score here, I just want to know if this is a notch better than 90% RT score of EOT or one notch better than the 15% RT score of Transformers…

  16. Its a good thing I don’t come to Screen Rant for reviews, or care what any movie critic has to say for that matter.
    The last four I have read here have been so far off the mark I have to wonder if the reviewer was shooting blindfolded.

    This movie, while not horrible, was NO 4.5 stars.
    Youre trying to say a movie like Godfather (or whatever you hold as the best ever) can only possibly be 0.5 stars better than this? That is batsh** insane!

  17. So I, wtc had asked for cut 20minutes. you guys are so stupid that didn’t understand this film . I should have cut this film for you retard.

  18. I don’t know what’s more disappointing, this movie or the fact that Kofi thought this was one star better than Edge of Tomorrow. The premise for this movie was as ridiculous and upsetting as the ending.

  19. I think this film overall was solid, with Tilda Swinton delivering more of her exceptionally entertaining kookiness. I was, however, quite bothered by the editing of the film, especially at the start. Whether it was just Asian style of film making, which I am not familiar with, or whether the were pieces of the film left out (With all the different cuts this film was possibly having, I believe I saw the director’s original version), it felt as if there was more to this film that I didn’t see. Distracting.

  20. I think this film overall was solid, with Tilda Swinton delivering more of her exceptionally entertaining kookiness. I was, however, quite bothered by the editing of the film, especially at the start. Whether it was just Asian style of film making, which I am not familiar with, or whether there were pieces of the film left out (With all the different cuts this film was possibly having, I believe I saw the director’s original version), it felt as if there was more to this film that I didn’t see. Distracting.

  21. Watched the movie before it’s general western release (I guess). I wouldn’t say I hated it but just couldn’t sit through it. Something about the premise and the way it worked really irked me (seriously, last survivors on the eternal train?). I’m quite baffled actually that critics think this is such a good movie.

  22. Oh, God… Kofi, didn’t you care about the abundance of plot holes?

  23. I am amazed at the 4.5 rating!
    To me the movie was strange from start to finish and Chris Evans and Ed Harris (both of whom I like as actors) felt totally miscast.
    The action sequences couldn’t decide whether to be ultra-realistic or goofy. All in all I found the movie very incoherent.
    I would give it 1.5 stars.

  24. Kofi you owe me $31.00. Where can we meet so I can collect? I took my nephew to see this movie at the Angelika Theater in NYC in stead of going to see Edge of Tomorrow for the 2nd time and his first. I would rather have watchef EoT 3 times than watch Snowpiercer. EoT was a much better movie. I didn’t hate it but that movie is definitely not a 4.5 movie. Maybe a 3.0.

    The director was there for a Q&A and most people left afterwards, knowing that he was there. I didn’t realize it based on a graphic novel. Knowing that does change my opinion of the movie. If it was an original story, I would’ve given it a 2.0.

  25. This looks like a allegory more than anything and if you don’t understand that or what the director was going for then you probably won’t like it…it is a cult movie as stated in the review which means it is like going into a Terry Gilliam movie, must be very open minded to enjoy it. I have not seen it but just reading the plot, this review, that is my take on this movie, until I see it. But it does have my curiosity.

    • …”must be very open minded to enjoy it”…

      So I guess anyone who has ever disliked any movie must be closed minded.

      • Take things out of context much?

        Some movies require an open mind.

        But an open mind is not required for all movies.

        All storms are wet. But not all wet things are storms.

        • And dry clothes are not dried in the wind….uh, what

          • Don’t hurt yourself Chief.

      • No. Some movies require an open mind because they don’t force feed everything and make you think about what you are watching. Kind of like going to the art museum and wondering what each piece is all about, some movies are like that.

        • Oh…okay…so you only have a closed mind if you dislike THIS movie.

          Are you sure you don’t want to rephrase your original comment?

          • Still a logical fallacy. “Without an open mind you will not enjoy” doesn’t imply “no enjoyment means your mind is closed”. He’s saying you wouldn’t enjoy it without an open mind, but you could dislike it for any number of other reasons.

            Maybe it just isn’t for you, or maybe it surprises you. Even if it isn’t, it can still be a good movie for others.

      • Jeff, here is your comment from earlier.

        “Agree with you, Ken. It does seem like a large number of critics, for whatever reason, gravitate to that dumbed-down concept of “rich people bad, poor people good” in film. I presume it makes them feel like they are grasping some “insightful” social commentary that others just don’t seem to get or understand. Whenever I see a movie so overtly defined by it, I am immediately repelled, as ultimately, the notion tends to divide people, and we end up with the criminal element and/or “occupy” crowd feeling emboldened and justified in their criminality, dependency, and sense of entitlement.”

        You know, being “immediately repelled” by any movie based solely on its concept which vaguely involves class warfare sounds pretty much like the definition of being close-minded.

        Let’s say I’m immediately repelled by a movie made with a male white protagonist because of my feminist beliefs. I must be as OPEN-MINDED as you!!! ;)

        • I think I’m in love with you.

  26. Watched this movie a couple months ago.Personally I didn’t like it. The plot didn’t make sense to me,maybe I expected better from this.

  27. I personally thought the film was just OK – nothing wrong with it but at the same time it didn’t blow me away. I certainly don’t think I will remember much about it in a years time, but I do think that everyone should give it a go as I do think that the film may offer something unique for different people wanting different things from a movie.

    I have a question for Kofi and the other Screen Rant guys (if he/they actually get to read this among all the other comments)

    I’ve noticed lately that the general opinion on the Marvel Studios movies seems to be quite low during conversations on the podcast and any time a dig can be made towards them it is taken. The reason I ask the question here is that once again in this review there is another shot:

    ‘the difference between Evans in a complex and layered role like this, and now-obvious hollow persona he dons to play Marvel’s Captain America is stunning’

    Which I’m quite surprised at considering that I actually feel that Evans has done a great service to a character that could very easily have been a cardboard cut out.
    It’s actually a surprising comment as I personally feel that Evans always brings something to any role he plays, (his Johnny Storm is the only thing that even makes the FF movies remotely worth watching).
    I’m a big Comic Book Fan, both Marvel and especially DC, but have never been a Captain America fan on the page as it’s a character that has just never really interested me, (pre Brubaker). That is until the Chris Evans version in the movies. I really can’t agree with the ‘Hollow Persona’ comment based mainly on the fact that I am invested in a character that for nearly thirty years of reading comics I had no interest in.

    I actually think that even though the Marvel Studios movies have had their ups and downs and have turned some divisive corners for the whole they have, if nothing else, been highly entertaining – which at the end of the day is the whole point.

    Sorry to have rambled – it just would be interesting to hear the reasons behind this – I don’t know, let’s call it a change of heart towards Marvel Studios movies.

    • Hey, I agree. Though Cap has really really come into his own in CA:WS. I kept seeing him as Johnny Storm in CA:TFA and Avengers but now. He’s Cap through and through. I think Evans did a spectacular job in Snowpiercer.

  28. “…a massive train powered by a perpetual engine, which makes one lap around the globe on a yearly cycle.”

    So the train moves at a blistering 2.7 mph?

  29. 1 out of 5.