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Liz says:

i didn’t LOVE the season finale but i didn’t hate it…i enjoyed some things but others weren’t written well. I’ll watch season 9 because i want to know what happens and also because it’s THEIR version of how superman came to be so it’s obviously going to be different then the comics.

@matthew

people told me that these deaths were going to stick…so i don’t think aaron ashmore will becoming back…only sam witwer (maybe) because he will play zod

tasouli says:

I have been watching Smallville since beginnning and I have to say that at this point I just watch show because I need to watch it end out; otherwise the last 8 years of watching this show would have been a waste of my time and my life (which realistically speaken they have been at least as far as this show goes.

Now, I am not your typical comic book geek. i really do not know anything about the comics aside from a few chracters and some of the major plots but I have to say this show has gone beyond the boundaries of stupidity and will forever remain this way.
Doomsday can have his human and alien self seperated? What? That makes less than any sense.
How did these writers not pick up on the fact that misleading teh audience to believe that the character on the show was teh actual Jimmy Olsen for teh past sereval seasons would not bother anyone? Obviously these writers have the intellectual capacity of small farm animals and will have NO credibility when the show ends which is why they are continually dragging it on and on.
Tom Welling, you CANNOT act which is the primary reason you will keep on signing on for additional seasons. DId anyone see the fog? Or how about Cheaper by the dozen, not to mention cheaper by the dozen 2. You are at best a D list actor…milk it as long as you can my friend, maybe directing will work out better for you.
The show went outh for me after the 100th episode “reckoning”. So Lana dies and Clark is heartbroken and you can milk the entire season off of this premise. Instead, the writers decide to introduce the ridiculously obsurd concept of time travel and Clark goes back in time and Lana is miracously saved and his father takes her place. THIS IS THE EPISODE THE SHOW WENT SOUTH.
Then a couple of writers left because they ran out of story…throw in a couple of new baddies, bad plot lines, supergirl, the absense of Lex and you are introduced to the season 8 finale which could not be more accurately titled “Doomsday” as is this is the culmination and obsolute doomsday of the franchise and everything it stood for.
End the show, it is unsalvigable at this point.
Come on Lana has super powers. Where is the hell is Lex, is he dead? Jimmy Olsen is god knos where. Who honestly cares about Cloe anymore? How many superheros (aquaman, oq, clark) is Lois going to hook up with? Teenage superheros from the future? Numerous time travel rings? Where is Clarks mom (iknow the actress signed off the show)? Where is Bizzaro, just hanging around somehwere? Did we not do this whole Zod thing already a couple of seasons ago? Who is her Lord Voldemort and has he left seven horcruxes out there for him to bring himself back everytime? How many different colors of of kryptonite do we have now? Is the actor that plays Davis Bloom going to play Zod too now? And how long is this fight going to be three fists and a shove?
GIMME a BREAK AND END THIS SHOW

Blaze says:

to answer some of ur dump questions bizzaro is dead he got kill in season 7 everyone basicly knew Davis was going 2 play zod when his mother zods wife told him he looked just like his FATHER

Foopher says:

Bizarro got the crap blow out of him with blue kryptonite in season 7. Nobody says you have to watch it; so stop complaining when it doesn’t go the way you wanted it to in your imagination.

We all know the season finale could’ve been better, but that’s what happens when the original writers leave along with key actors. I thought the season went much better than anyone would’ve expected with the shows creators and acotrs gone.

I have a feeling that Lana will be back to clear up her story. Other than that i’m happy she wasn’t in this season. With her on the show it wasn’t about Superman, it was “Clark’s Creek” (the broken bed in “Requiem”)

Anyway, pretty sure the writers have plans for season 9 and it’s not just gonna be “oh no, chloe’s alone, the JL’s gone forever, Where’s Lois? Boo-hoo”. No. They’ve got something up they’re sleeve. Let’s just hope it’s for the better.

luke319 says:

Tasouli, you raise some legitimate complaints, heck I agree with a lot of them, but many of those issues have actually been resolved in past episodes, or are simply mirroring the comics:

These include:

1) No, Bizarro’s not just hanging around somewhere, like the others have said, he died in Season 7.

2) Where’s Lex? He got blown up by Oliver, I mean they’ve talked about it in half a dozen episodes (of course if they can talk Michael Rosenbaum into returning they’ll find some way to revive him). This also begs the question who the heck is Clark going to fight once he actually becomes Superman? I mean they’re killing off villains left and right (Brainiac, Bizarro, Lex) and he’s not even in the suit yet.

3) Teenage superheroes from the future? Yes, they’re called the Legion of Superheroes and they’re straight out of the comics. If you want to think they’re ridiculous, that’s fine, but the show’s just following the source material.

4) And yes, the members of this team possess superpowered rings. However, in the comics they only granted the ability to fly , they had a seperate device, called the Time Bubble, which they used to time travel. The writers of the show merely decided to combine the two.

5) Yes, the different colors of Kryptonite are also from the comics. I realize they seems somwhat gimicky and tend to redult in a lot of Deus-ex-Machina scenarios, but this is another instance where they’re merely following the source material (with a few slight alterations).

6) I don’t think it’s been officially announced, but I think it’s pretty clear from the finale that Sam Witwer will also be playing Zod. Personally I don’t think he’s all that amazing as an actor and I think it’s ridiculous that Davis would look JUST like his dad. However, the producers can’t please everyone and a lot of fans seem to be happy Witwer’s returning so I guess overall it was a good call on the showrunners’ part.

So hopefully that clears some things up. Like I said, you actually bring up a lot of good points that I agree with (for instance I think you’re spot on about Episode 100 being when the show really took a dive, and that even if Anette O’Toole is no longer a regular they should at least have her cameo now and again because it’s pretty unrealistic that Clark would have no contact at all with his mother). However, in a lot of these cases you really can’t fault the show too much since they’re either working with pre-exisiting source material or trying to work around the departure of a central actor/actress.

Foopher says:

luke319, agree with it all. but if zod created davis then who’s to say that he didn’t create him in his own image.

And to whoever was complaining about clark’s fade out being symbolism and the show never having symbolism in it before; i’ve been rewatching every episode from season 1 with my gf so that she understands what’s happening and i see lots of symbolism. The most recent one that i can think of is in season 5 “LEXMAS”. At the end the image of his mother is behind/beside him and then “fades away”. So yeah, definitely not anything new to the show, sorry.

And to answer the question; there are 5 types of kryptonite

Also just to clear it up;
It’s spelled: Chloe, Jimmy, Lois, Clark
I can’t count how many times i’ve seen Chloie and Jimmie and Louis and Chlark (just throwing that out there)

And i read someone question; why clark doesn’t go back in time and save krypton?
Because… on krypton clark would have no powers; it’s the yellow sun that gives him his abilities. And, i don’t see how anyone could stop a super nova from happening.

Foopher says:

To the topic of creating a Bruce Wayne/Batman show, there really isn’t anything to tell about him in a show about his childhood that wasn’t already told in EVERY movie

Andy S says:

Can you imagine the geek meter reading if during an episode, Oliver Queen has a business meeting with Bruce Wayne? LOL.

Ya’all know that WatchTower that Chloe started manning?

In the comics, Bruce Wayne funded that. I doubt we’ll ever see Bats in this show. Oliver Queen is their Batman / Bruce Wayne stand in.

B

Foopher says:

Although i do think it would be cool if they mentioned him. As Andy S said, in a meeting with Oliver

inr says:

bruce should be mentioned, but shouldn’t take up the batman mantle in the show

Andy S says:

IF they mention Bats in this show, I bet the next week there is a 50% spike in viewership. :D

Andy S says:

Speaking of Batman, how cool would it be to have another Batman TV series? “Tales of the Dark Knight” or something. Not campy like Adam West and Burt Ward, but kinda a cross between Smallville and Batman Begins….

Luke says:

Actually, believe it or not Gough and Millar originally wanted to make a young Bruce Wayne series instead. However, Warner Bros. shot the idea down because they were planning on rebooting the Batman film series so instead they agreed to make a young Clark Kent series.

Andy S says:

I had heard that, Luke. I still think it would be something cool to do, though. I mean Smallville was on before Superman Returns, right?

Tricia says:

Foopher, I agree with most everything you have said. Thanks for clearing up so many things. Seems like some are watching sporadically or not paying attention because they are not making any sense, or don’t know what they are talking about. Or watching a show they hate. Why? It’s like viewers either love it or love to hate it. Either way, it’s a huge success, lasting for 8+ years. Plenty of goosebump moments.
I’ve always thought of the Smallville version as “the rest of the story.” I don’t care about another retelling of the story of the Man of Steel- been there done that. I want the details of Clark’s life on the farm, his family, friends,loves, and his enemies. His journey to becoming the Super Hero and why he uses his powers for good instead of evil. Don’t care about the tights. But I am looking forward to seening him fly and patiently awaiting.

Luke says:

Andy, yeah I could never figure that out either. Why did the studio veto a Batman TV series but encourage one based on Superman when they were planning reboots of both films? And yet, that was supposedly their reasoning.

Foopher says:

The story of superman’s beginings was something that isn’t familiar to many people. Batman’s childhood is well known. Everybody knows his parents were shot and that’s what makes him want to stop people like that (it’s shown in every movie pretty much). There’s no need for a batman show unless it would be while he is batman and there are plenty of those.

Tricia, thank you for agreeing with me. means alot that you’ve actually read what i’ve posted and it has actually sunk in. :)

Again (for everyone who it hasn’t sunk in yet), the scene with chloe and clark where she says that the JL are missing, takes place AFTER the funeral. Time has passed by between the funeral scene and the watchtower scene; enough for the JL to slip into hiding and not answer any of chloe’s calls or however she has been trying to get a hold of them.

Another thing… i honestly liked the episode RECKONING. To me it was the episode that showed clark no matter what he does or what he can do (even time traveling) he can’t save everyone and there are always consequences. The whole time traveling aspect is a big part of the DC mythology right; i mean he does it in “Superman: the movie”

And to all the people still ranting over the Doomsday fight; if you want to see a battle, buy the animated movie.

Foopher says:

But just out of curiousity, Tricia, what don’t you agree with?

Foopher says:

I do think that they should at least make a reference to bruce wayne though, and also wonder woman. They’re both big members of the JL after all. They also need to give martian manhunter his powers back and make him look all green and alienish

Foopher says:

No matter what anyone says, the writers are most certainly “sticking to the comics”. They even had writers from the comics write episodes. So if you have a problem with it not going with the comics, complain to the guys who wrote the comics for not following the comics :p

louis d says:

Just wanted to say that i dont think the scene after the funeral was a long time from the funeral like everyones saying..there was still a fresh puddle of blood on the floor..that makes it seem very recent

Foopher says:

not saying it was like a week after, just enough for the JL to “disappear” as it were.

but it does seem weird that chloe would just leave the puddle of blood there though. you’d have thought she’d had cleaded that up by then, huh?

Panda says:

Foopher,
The JL disappearing was either a plot hole, or bad editing. If the Chloe/Clark scene was right after the funeral, it’s a hole. If that scene was long after the funeral, it’s bad editing (considering how many people are confused by how much time had passed). One week is not enough time for the JL to “disappear” IMO – it’s not like they made themselves apparent every night, just popped up once in a while. Doesn’t matter though, if this much of the audience questions it, it was poorly executed in the episode.

BTW, since when has young Bruce Wayne’s story been told more than Clark Kent?!?! Superboy had a comic decades ago. Granted, Smallville is a much different (and welcomed) take on Superboy, young Clark Kent has been done before. Other than his inspiration to become Batman and a few flashbacks throughout the years, young Bruce has barely been touched. I would have loved to see a searies about him growing into the Batman role, but now Batman Begins has covered it pretty well.

Foopher says:

… or maybe, after the funeral, chloe cannot get in touch with any member of the JL and has no idea where they are and can’t find them anywhere. They’re not really new at the art of being sneeky. I mean i doubt that the writers would make that big of a writing flop. The JL (especially Oliver) seemed upset at the funeral. Which in my opinion would make them want to go somewhere they can’t be found.

And the batman thing; you pretty much just backed up what i had said. I meant that the sotry of young clark is not WELL KNOWN to many people (with the exception of those who read the comics), but most people know the story of bruce wayne becoming batman. Like you said “Batman Begins” covered that.

Panda says:

On the subject of different colors of kryptonite, anyone catch the silver kryptonite in the comics last year (I think Batman / Superman series) that makes Supes act like he’s stoned? That’ll show up in season 9, just watch

Foopher says:

and isn’t questioning what happened and what will happen next the point of a season finale? to bait people into watching the next season?

Panda says:

Batman Begins wasn’t released until third or fourth season of Smallville. Before that, a young Bruce series could have easily been done and made sense, probably more sense than young Clark. That was the discussion wasn’t it? Whether a young Bruce series could have been done instead of Smallville?

And I disagree about Clark’s story being not well known… Comics, TV series in 80’s, the Donner movie, the cartoon of the 60’s (maybe even 70’s). Lot’s of source material, vs. young Bruce, ummm, not that much and definitely not much that had been explored in film or TV (pre Batman Begins). I’m not as familiar with all the Batman comic series, but the closest thing I can think of is Year One, which I would suspect a young Bruce seires would be prior to that.

Foopher says:

They already had silver Kryptonite… in season 5

Foopher says:

That’s probably why they shot down the idea for a batman show. They were more interested in making a movie about how “Batman Begins”

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