Last month we got some big news surrounding Spider-Man 4. Among the scheduling changes for the upcoming Marvel movies, we also were told that Spider-Man 4 would hit theaters May 6, 2011. The other unsurprising update that made a splash was that Raimi really wants Kirsten Dunst to return as Mary Jane Watson.
From what we’ve heard, Dunst has been hesitant about returning for another installment, perhaps because of some negative fan feedback about her being cast into the role in the first place which still hasn’t died down.
Raimi is taking it into his own hands and is reportedly set to meet with Kirsten Dunst to talk about her return for the next Spidey adventure. In a group interview last week, Raimi discussed the current situation:
“I’m hoping that she is going to come aboard, and I’ve got a meeting coming up with her… I think she would like to. But I don’t want to speak on behalf of her.”
The folks at Sci-Fi Wire had the opportunity to speak with Raimi about his upcoming Drag Me to Hell horror movie, Evil Dead 4 and what we may expect of the style for Spider-Man 4. Sci-fi Wire raised the point of the darker trend in superhero movies we’ve seen in The Dark Knight and Watchmen and asked whether or not we’d be seeing a darker and Edgier Spider-Man this time around. Raimi’s edited response:
“Whatever it is, I think will be a direct result of the best style to bring about our writer’s screenplay. And as soon as I read that, I will know what that is. Edgy could be a direction, but I don’t think it will be applied without really understanding the character’s journey from the inside out first and then figuring out the best way to bring that about.
And then, as far as the other influences, making it different from the other films, … I hope we don’t react to these very good and sometimes bad superhero movies around us. I hope that we just [look] ever deeper into the truth of who Peter Parker really is—as a human being and the unique character, and that we celebrate that, which is a lot of the reason I want to make this next picture. I still believe I have an understanding of Peter Parker as the character that I have not quite put onto the screen yet.
I’m not talking about Tobey Maguire’s performance, which I very much love; I’m talking about my understanding of the character. I feel like sometimes a kid at the piano recital. And I know this piece really well. I know it by heart. And I sometimes get it right, and sometimes I don’t. But I want a chance to really play it the way I feel it. So I’m hoping it’s a really good screenplay and I can express the character through that.”
By his piano recital analogy, I’m guessing he’s referring Spider-Man 3 when saying he sometimes doesn’t get it right. Other than that, we get nothing new. The script isn’t done and Raimi isn’t committing to a style of film.
The good news is that Raimi will have full control over this movie unlike its predecessor which will hopefully give us another quality movie like the first two and not a mess like the third installment.
As for the Mary Jane character, I don’t know what else they can explore in her relationship with Peter Parker and I don’t think the fans really care about the plot revolving around them. Personally, I don’t want them to even try – I’d like to see the story focused on the villains and Peter Parker trying to save the day this time around.
What do you think of Kirsten Dunst returning?
Source: Sci-Fi Wire
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Hey Blaze, what an idea! I kinda like that one, but MJ will have to fall in there somehow because Peter will have to go back to his one true love.
By the way Matt K, hey buddy! Your name is of Hebrew origin and means Gift of God, and that you are- remember that bud.
Darren I got an idea for that one no never mind her being a clone for hydro is too cartoony
Ha ha, very funny. How about this:
Let Sam Raimi find a way to bring back Venom in the mix, cause Venom to be much more aggravated with Peter but waits for a really unsuspecting moment to avenge Eddie, probably in the last few minutes of S4 with a surprise appearance from Carnage: both of them as a team for S5.
Meanwhile, the Hobgoblin is in progress. That prisoner who escapes in the comics finds Norman and Harry Osborn’s work of art and masters it, but only Spidy can stop him so he wants to kill Spidey……
Or bring back Otto Octavias aka Doc Ock. He gets amnesia not knowing what to do with life goes in persuit for help from someone to get those arms off, gets captured but busts out and that should get him real mad! He goes into hiding- again……
While Dr. Curt Connors trys to grow his arm, thus experimenting very badly turns him into THE LIZARD!!!!!!…. but is so overwhelmed by its evil needs a partner; trys to find his ole time buddy Ock. He convincingly persuades Ock and walla!
A new story is born.
Hey Vic, give a reply on what you think, please.
I think they should move on to new villains, preferably ONE.
Vic
I think so too Vic
One alone? That might just kill the drama guys. Come on, every Spidey fan is anticipating lots of villains these days (thanks to Raimi). Spidey can take ‘em on. But I guess that your opinions count just as mine does. But I think my idea is way cool. Vic, is it possible that Sony Corp or Marvel Studios can recieve my recent comment for analysing from Screenrant?
If they keep on using more than one the movies will be over faster than if they use one bad guy at a time but I respect ur opinion.
Wow, couple weeks later no one comments. I do think they should bring venom back. He was in there not long enough, and supposed to be all plural like “We are venom]”, and stuff like that. Carnage would be an excellent character, I mean, c’mon, the dudes a psychopath from prison, how can you not be cool with that?
Another villan they could introduce is good ‘ol Scropion. He would be a fan-favorite, or I would think.
Maybe I sound like a nerd by saying this, but they could use some of the villans from WoS. Not saying to rip it off or anything, but there’s Rhino, the Vulture, and so on. I think it was cool to have Harry as the “New Goblin”. To see Spider-man being teamed up with another hero would be very nice. Like they could put in Black Cat as a helpful partner kicking super-powered bad guys (not necessarily playing as a side-kick) then leave shortly after that w/ some drama in the play indicating that Spidey has another problem to worry about, a chick who is a theif and has a major thing for him.
I got a idea. Lizard Is Introduced at the beginning somehow and A little after the beginning kraven shows up and hunts spidey. Spidey Does know who hired kraven. Towards the end spiderman has a huge fight with lizard and kraven and lizard flees. kraven reveals who hired him. Norman Osborn. hes set up for next movie.That Could happen. Or… either you see lizard Says “gotta find doc ock” or somebody mentions cletus casudy
I mean spidey does not know who hired kraven to hunt him
I think that having Kraven in a spidey movie would be awesome, with jungle music playing when he enters.
Just putting in my “2 cents” about the MJ question: I loved the MJ character AND Dunst in the role. I’m excited about a Spider-Man 4 & 5 and I hope to see MJ (and Dunst) with a significant presence/role in both movies!
yeah, maybe she should return, but just for a short role, focus on spider-man and the villains, and don’t make it a dark film either, spider man 3 tried that, look what happened
guys, it`s the FOURTH movie, so using only one villain wouldn`t fill up how long someone should wait for something to come. Also even though lately i realized how Spiderman 3 didn`t turn out the way i first thought, i still knew that any 2 of those 3 villains could`ve done a movie well and i saw with the way it was producted it still would`ve made an awesome movie. Guys, 2 villains wouldn`t be too many, and also there needs to be a team in the final movie that would be more challenging than the teams of villains that has gone already in each of all the previous films. One villain just won`t cut it, also there`s really not enough action going on with just that one villain in all the films, i mean, WHAT ABOUT ALL THE OTHER VILLAINS. There are so many interesting plots with all the villains in the comics, so why just let it hide there when you know what it`d be like on the REAL screen? I just can`t feel enough excitement with one villain, and i used to not be a fan of Rhino, Vulture, or Shocker, and other villains like that, but i see how all the villains work, so i really don`t mind any villain, except Kraven. I`d choose Scorpion and Lizard for this one, but can someone PLEASE explain to me what is so great about the KRAVEN/LIZARD…?
So really, why would 2 villains be too much for them?
Matt Keith, what exactly do you mean the ACTING in Sm3 was awful???
And i even read the Sm3 wikepedia and under PRODUCTION and it only said that Avi Arad recommended him to do Venom it didn`t say that he forced him to. I think it was basically just the fans who were really hyper so maybe it was just the fact that he didn`t UNDERSTAND(as what i heard) him well enough was the reason why he had no spirit for the idea. WHAT ARE PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT THEY FORCED HIM TO DO IT??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That`s ******** silly, i don`t think he HATES him, i think it`s just the fact he didn`t know him enough was why he couldn`t take it into a shot. How do people know they forced him to splat him in??????????????????????????????????????????
i think it`s really the way they WRITE it, just because he`s such a major villain doesn`t mean it`s an aUTOMATIC tradgety, it just takes more writers to make a great story with symbiote enemies. And it just takes time to see how the screenplay works. WHY WOULD SAM RAIMI PARTICULARLY HATE A VILLAIN, THAT`S KIND OF FRIGHTENING, WHY DOES HE CARE WHAT VILLAIN(S) HE`S USING, THAT`S SUCH AN UNNATURAL DISPATCH, IS IT BECAUSE ACCORDING TO HIS ANGLE ALL THEY DO IS GET MORE AND MORE MINDLESS? WELL WHEN CREATING VILLAINS THE COMIC BOOK WRITERS ALWAYS FIND A WAY TO CAREFULLY MAKE THESE VILLAINS SET A REALISTIC AND NOT TOO COMPACTED WIN/LOSE COMPETITION GOAL WHEN PLAYING AGAINST SPIDERMAM, I REMEMBER THEY HANDLED IT IN ONE OF THE CARTOONS, AND CARNAGE DOES NOT HAVE TO BE DONE JUSTICE IN AN R-RATED FILM, JUST BECAUSE HE`S A MURDEROUS SYCHOPATH DOESN`T MEAN HE CAN`T BE INTERESTING AND COMPLEX IN A LESSER-TONED PG-13 MOVIE, COME ON, WHAT WOULD SHOW THE MEANING OF ALREADY USING VENOM IF NEITHER HIM OR CARNAGE COME TO THE BIG SHOWDOWN ON ONE OF THESE NEXT FEATURE DATES, ALSO SPIDERMAN HAS ALREADY FACED A VERY CHALLENGING TEAM OF 3 VILLAINS AND IN THE FINAL MOVIE SM HAS TO FACE HIS BIGGEST BATTLE, NOT DOING ANY MORE SYMBIOTES ISN`T GOING TO SAVE THE FRANCHISE, AND VENOM ISN`T THE REASON WHY SM3 WAS A DISASTER, IT`S THE FACT THAT 2 OTHER VILLAINS THAT DIDN`T FIT WITH HIM TOGETHER WERE SHOVED IN, THAT`S WHY, SANDMAN WAS A VERY HARD VILLAIN TO CREATE, SO NEITHER HIM OR VENOM FITTED WILL WITH 2 OTHER VILLAINS. WHAT KIND OF WORLD IS THIS???????????????????????????? WHAT, I GUESS THERE`S NO WAY FOR THE FRANCHISE TO RECOVER FROM SM3??? NOW WHAT????? REBOOT???????????????????
So it`s really the symbiote COSTUME that`s mindless, not really the hosts.
One more thing. They don`t have to give them all the exact abilities they have , it just needs to be able to pretty much sneak up on Spiderman somehow and have plenty of speed.
And they have such a simple weakness, which is the vibration from sonics.
i will see spiderman 4 i like tobey magiure and kristen dunst i will see them on spiderman 4 on spiderman tobey as spidey teams up with venom played by topher grace vursus morbuis played by jeff hardy carnage played by jim carrey this is cool and exciting i love you tobey magiure and kristen dunst so i will see spiderman 4 in theatres may 6th 2011 see ya.
As much as I think Kirsten Dunst and Toby Maguire are talented actors, I have never really taken to them as Peter Parker & Mary Jane.
Sure they played their roles well, but IMHO I find Tobey Maguire TOO short, TOO goofy looking and TOO nerdy in his acting as Peter Parker; and Kirsten Dunst was NOT as vivacious, or as uninhibted and perky as the MJ from the comic books.
Personally, I would have preferred a Gwen Stacey story line with MJ added a couple of movies down the track after the Green Goblin kills off Stacey (or is that being too nostalgic)?
Even though I’m probably in the minority here, I for one would welcome a total reboot of the Spiderman franchise with a new director and a new cast.
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