The Chicago Sun-Times recently spoke with the Iron Man star and managed to pry some details about the sequel to the hit film out of him; Movie Hole also asked Downey about Iron Man 2 and got more than they bargained for when the actor went on a tirade, slamming DC Comics and the runaway success of The Dark Knight.
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“You want some plot secrets? Okay, here we go,” Downey said in an interview [with The Chicago Sun-Times] this weekend. “If he said he’s Iron Man in the first film, it’s one thing to say it and another thing to evolve to a point where you can live in a heroic fashion.”
Downey added, “Our goal is also more of the same in ‘Iron Man 2.’ We want to do what worked for us last time. I’m talking about telling more of the story of a guy put in extraordinary circumstances who has a family now and he’s dealing with these forces. In ‘Iron Man 2,’ you will be able to understand various points of view about him that are far-reaching while this guy is still grounded in reality.”
Ok, so basically they’re taking the Christopher Nolan approach: using the continuity established in the first film to logically expand on the plot threads left hanging at the conclusion of the origin story. Not too original, but hey, if the wheel works so well why re-invent it, right?
Downey pretty much echoed his sentiments about IM2 in an interview with Movie Hole, adding that
It’s pretty great and I think it’s going to be cool… [Iron Man has] a very rich feel, because it was a very simple movie, if you ask me. It was an origin story.”
And that’s about when the daggers started flying:
“My whole thing is that that I saw ‘The Dark Knight’. I feel like I’m dumb because I feel like I don’t get how many things that are so smart…and I’m like, ‘That’s not my idea of what I want to see in a movie.’ I…still can’t tell you what happened in the movie, what happened to the character and in the end they need him to be a bad guy. I’m like, ‘I get it. This is so high brow and so f–king smart, I clearly need a college education to understand this movie.’ You know what? F–k DC comics. That’s all I have to say and that’s where I’m really coming from.”
Wow, tell us how you really feel Rob. (It may be time to start urine-testing this guy again.)
Seriously though, I don’t see why Downey is hating on TDK. Iron Man tore it up at the box office ($569 million worldwide as of today,) and basically put Downey back on Hollywood’s radar. What, did that stupid MTV movie award go to his head? Or maybe Marvel has a clause in their contracts which states that their stars have to bad-mouth DC whenever and wherever possible. Hell, maybe Downey is just doing his job
So what do YOU think about Robert Downey Jr.’s kind words for Iron Man 2? About his hateful words for The Dark Knight? You have my permission to sound off.
Source: The Chicago Sun-Times & Movie Hole
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At first I was baffeled to see people liked Ironman more than TDK but then I realized some people don’t like to think or enjoy using their brain. Those are the type of people who would prefer Iron Man so it makes sense. TDK is a very serious movie that has depth and layers Ironman is a straight forward action film with laughs no thinking and no depth.It can appeal to a certain type.
ppnkof,numbers may never lie but they don’t tell the whole story either.I have went to theaters,paid my $8.50,excited to see Spidey 3,Superman Returns,and any of the Star Wars prequels left very disappointed.Sometimes we don’t get what we paid for.
BTW I understand that Hollywood is a business too.
@Daniel
Wow… that’s quite a statement, bud.
I’m pretty sure that at least some amount of brain power is involved in running this site and I enjoyed Iron Man more that TDK.
Vic
@ The universe: I swear, when I get my DVD copies of IM and TDK I’m going to make them fight and see which one is truly the greatest! It’s on now!
Impressive. My take on RDJ is justified on this thread
Attempting to get back on topic at this point is indeed fruitless, however, my attempt to do so should be noted for all….
hey Daniel, I’m finished my masters degree in 2 weeks. I prefer Ironman over TDK…
but in all seriousness man, its what you enjoy more, some of us enjoy ironman more because its a little lighter and little more funny. I loved both films and truth be told, I see every movie that comes out one way or another. I just prefer Ironman more after seeing both flicks more than once. Nothing in Ironman really bothered me at all whereas in batman there were little things here and there that did.
so I’m not categorizing viewers as ‘types’ is the correct analysis, lol. Lest I could type you as a batman fanboy which I know you’re not, lol.
What matters is both are incredible films and franchises, I’d like to compare Ironman 2 to Dark Knight and see what comes up with that.
*I’m not sure categorizing…*
I’d love to edit my posts too, I type too fast and miss words everywhere, let alone the typos
(Batman), has a cape, that he uses like a glider, and on bad days has to subcontract cargo planes to perform certain missions,,,
(Iron Man), has rocket boosters, and flys as fast as a Raptor jet,,,
(Batman), has all his gadjets made in China, and often dosnt read the manuals,,,
(Iron Man), designs all his gadjets himself, and there made in USA,,,
(Batman), lives in Gothem, a dark crime infested bastion of scum and villiany,,,
(Iron Man), lives in Malibu, with surfers and hot babes,,,
(Batman), wants a relationship,,,
(Iron Man), just wants to party and swing,,,
(Batman), is vulnerable to bullets and stabbing weapons,,,
(Iron Man), isnt, and has ballistic weapons in his suit,,,
(Batman), wants to keep his identity a secret,,,
(Iron Man), has a press conference just to tell everyone that he’s Iron Man,,,
(Batman), will stop at nothing to catch criminals, and then take them to jail,,,
(Iron Man), will just kill ya,,,
The winner!
Iron Man!!!
hahaha 790,
I guess from that perspective, I’d definatley choose the Stark Lifestyle!
Yeah I wish this Blackberry had a better spellcheck.
My spellinmg sucks most days.
And I teach 8th grade English !!
Lol just kidding.
I forgot to mention Iron Man has Jarvis, blutooth, where as Batman (im pretty sure uses Nextel,)
You also forgot to mention that Batman has to deal with the haunting memory of his parents being murdered infront of him when he was a kid while for Iron Man the closest to a haunting memory he would have to deal with is that he and his father might have slept with the same prostitute. Wait, let me put it delicately, they might’ve used the same escort service at some point:)
If people lining up for days to see The Phantom Menace makes that film a good one, please… someone stop the presses now… because it appears we have found unequivocal proof of psychic ability in human kind.
I understand why studios put such stock in first weekend grosses – it’s their job to look solely at the financials – but, c’mon… for a film fan to look at a gross and say “well, numbers never lie – it MUST be good” is just plain dumb.
As for the Iron Man vs. TDK battle… for me, it comes down to this: TDK is the superior film overall but which will I watch more in my lifetime for the pure fun and enjoyment of film? Iron Man, by a nose.
If that makes me unintelligent, so be it. Someone stop the presses once again, because the local university is giving out Film & TV degrees to idiots.
Kane for the win!
101% agreed (the extra 1 for your sweet name)
Meanwhile… I don’t think that guy saw Iron Man. Apparently it isn’t very haunting to watch your colleagues get blown up, be taken hostage yourself and then get beaten to a pulp while shards of metal make their way into your heart.
@ Kane
Exactly! I don’t know why would it be so hard for someone to comprehend that there is a clinical difference between critical and commercial success.
And yes, TDK was a far superior movie to Iron Man and as Kane stated, for “pure enjoyment” I’d pick the Iron Man DVD over TDK’s any day.
Well Kane, there is a difference between a young boy witnessing the murder of his parents and an over achieving playboy taken hostage. And yeah, hostages tend to get beaten up which in Tony Stark’s case proved to be a blessing.
I’ll always watch the fun movies more than the serious ones.
I’m a worshipper of Kurosawa and revere the Seven Samurai, yet watch it rarely.
Big Trouble in Little China or the3th Warrior on the other hand, I could watch again and again.
I expected the seriousness and darkness of TDK to affect the numbers going to see it, so that speaks well of it.
Lol Risa,,,
All Stark needed after his horrible hostage situation was a Whopper with Cheese, no mayo.
Hey Steven have you seen the Japanese sci-fi film, “Casshern”?
It’s a stupid debate to get into… but no one can compare the trauma of one person to that of another. An athlete who loses the use of his legs may well feel much the same sense of loss as a child whose best friend moves away. They didn’t execute it as fully as they may have with a more restrictive rating but I don’t think Tony Stark’s trauma is anything to scoff at. And the cheeseburger was just a way to lighten the mood in a film intended to be fun.
Anyway… like I said… it’s a stupid debate to begin with.
Thanks for proving my point 709 and Casshern was a visually stunning film by the way which didn’t really need any actor if you think of it. Great fun though!
Kane, it IS a stupid debate,which was why I replied to 709’s OP in that manner. He seemed to be building up a pointless comparison between Iron Man and Batman clearly based on the 3 movies only. You could compare TDK with Iron Man yes, but they are just two entirely different characters apart from the billionaire aspect.
Risa thanks I think,?
And its 790 gheesh.
@ 790
Sorry about that, I strictly blame the vodka
I haven’t seen Casshern. Heard about it, recognised the name instantly, but not got round to that one.
Lol Risa, yeah in a few more hours my excuse will be the light beer,,,
Yeah Steven, I saw it today New on dvd for 7 bucks. Looked interesting, ill give you a heads up when I watch it.
I got the unrated version , !!
Cool. Just had a look and saw it cheap, so will wait for the review.
Oh, and if you ever see a chance to get a Red Dwarf dvd, take it. Someone told me they were worth getting (I had all episodes on tape) and I bought the fourth series this week. I’ve forgotten how good this show was, with themes about lying being good, and what it is to achieve your dream, plus how much of a smeghead Rimmer is. I haven’t gone through all the special features, but the episodes were enough and the cast commentary was brilliant. All five (Charles, Barrie, Jules, Llewellyn and Hayridge) are on and very much enjoy making fun of each other.
Oops, got a bit sidetracked there.
It also has an amazing soundtrack which really suited the tone of the film.
Anyway mate I’m off to bed. It’s 3:15 in the morning here.So night.Have a good one.Later
Hope to see more of Risa,,,
^
Steven the Git ,,,
(Ill post my Casshern review on the next “Open Discussion”)
Yeah hey im glad you finnaly got those Steven. Yeah LEXX and Red Dwarf are my 2 favorite shows in the comedy sci-fi area. They really put alot of love into those DVDs. I have to express my thanks to BBC for making the hands down best tv series dvd collection since the Get Smart collection I picked up from Time-Life.
Steven try and find a Copy of Comic Book the Movie, on dvd !!!! Im trying to get Vic to watch it and I need a second review to tip the scales.
Really appreciate it. !!
Better than Doctor Who without a doubt, in my opinion.
Just had a look for that one. Not sure if can get it over here, will keep looking, but just by checking it out I’m won over. Looks my sort of movie. PLus, anything with Bruce Campbell in I’m a sucker for.
Thanks Steven I knew I could count on you ,,,
Yeah Im pretty sure it comes in a 2 disc set, (its an inside joke in the movie.)
Bruce Campbell has a cool role in the film, you will see what I mean,,,,
In the special features they show the entire interview with Bruce and its halarious.
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