The Chicago Sun-Times recently spoke with the Iron Man star and managed to pry some details about the sequel to the hit film out of him; Movie Hole also asked Downey about Iron Man 2 and got more than they bargained for when the actor went on a tirade, slamming DC Comics and the runaway success of The Dark Knight.
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“You want some plot secrets? Okay, here we go,” Downey said in an interview [with The Chicago Sun-Times] this weekend. “If he said he’s Iron Man in the first film, it’s one thing to say it and another thing to evolve to a point where you can live in a heroic fashion.”
Downey added, “Our goal is also more of the same in ‘Iron Man 2.’ We want to do what worked for us last time. I’m talking about telling more of the story of a guy put in extraordinary circumstances who has a family now and he’s dealing with these forces. In ‘Iron Man 2,’ you will be able to understand various points of view about him that are far-reaching while this guy is still grounded in reality.”
Ok, so basically they’re taking the Christopher Nolan approach: using the continuity established in the first film to logically expand on the plot threads left hanging at the conclusion of the origin story. Not too original, but hey, if the wheel works so well why re-invent it, right?
Downey pretty much echoed his sentiments about IM2 in an interview with Movie Hole, adding that
It’s pretty great and I think it’s going to be cool… [Iron Man has] a very rich feel, because it was a very simple movie, if you ask me. It was an origin story.”
And that’s about when the daggers started flying:
“My whole thing is that that I saw ‘The Dark Knight’. I feel like I’m dumb because I feel like I don’t get how many things that are so smart…and I’m like, ‘That’s not my idea of what I want to see in a movie.’ I…still can’t tell you what happened in the movie, what happened to the character and in the end they need him to be a bad guy. I’m like, ‘I get it. This is so high brow and so f–king smart, I clearly need a college education to understand this movie.’ You know what? F–k DC comics. That’s all I have to say and that’s where I’m really coming from.”
Wow, tell us how you really feel Rob. (It may be time to start urine-testing this guy again.)
Seriously though, I don’t see why Downey is hating on TDK. Iron Man tore it up at the box office ($569 million worldwide as of today,) and basically put Downey back on Hollywood’s radar. What, did that stupid MTV movie award go to his head? Or maybe Marvel has a clause in their contracts which states that their stars have to bad-mouth DC whenever and wherever possible. Hell, maybe Downey is just doing his job
So what do YOU think about Robert Downey Jr.’s kind words for Iron Man 2? About his hateful words for The Dark Knight? You have my permission to sound off.
Source: The Chicago Sun-Times & Movie Hole
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LOL, wow, yah, my point with that comment is that you’re taking it WAY too personally old man. I’m analyzing a MOVIE made by SOMEONE ELSE who it NOT related to you, with a critical eye, which I do for EVERY movie, only some movies pass with flying colors, others fail horribly, and then some like TDK pass but with some negative points.
Nowhere did I claim my analysis is some definitive “matter of fact” statement of the movie’s qualification or anything like that. Notice I even tried to point this out to you in my sarcastic response to you. “We’ll think twice from now on about stating our OPINIONS on the film.”
So since you DIDN’T get the sarcasm, I’ll just explain it to you. What I described is a flaw IN MY OPINION. I’m still allowed to have those right?? Of course it was the movie maker’s choice. My point is that *I* FEEL that he made a bad choice. Do you kind of notice all of the adjectives are not factual ones but subjective (opinions) ones??
Yes, you’re allowed to have opinions too, I understand you liked the movie, I liked it too, but to try to justify your position that my opinion about the ending is “wrong” because Two Face has been done in another film, is pretty ridiculous, in so many ways…
Oh, and just so no one can say I didn’t try, I’m adding this bit to make it crystal clear. So many people state their opinions in a matter of fact sort of way. And it’s actually ok, most people see their own opinion as a fact and state it that way, but I don’t need them to point it out to me for me to get that it’s their opinion, obviously it is. But I actually do go out of my way to make sure I remind the reader that it’s my opinion all the time. I do that SPECIFICALLY so people like you won’t start telling me that what I’m saying is somehow “wrong” (opinions can’t be wrong! They are OPINIONS!). And here are quotes from my previous posts that clearly show this:
“**Personally, I felt** that entire last 20 minutes or so could have been cut…”
“That ending was mainly what killed it for me and made Iron Man an overall better and funner film to watch **in my opinion.**”
“…they could have Two-Face as the villain, which would be pretty cool, **I think.**”
“**I think** that would have made a great and exciting ending…”
“**I felt** it was over long before it actually was.”
“The ending really hurt the movie **in my opinion.**”
Could I have made it more clear? It’s MY OPINION. So sorry if I’m going to continue having them. What a weird world we live in right? People having opinions… pish posh, back in my day, it snowed in Florida and I had to walk to school 5 miles uphill both ways, and people didn’t have opinions…
Sorry HB, but you need to read up more on modern tech. It’s not really that unrealistic.
Sonar is not at all far fetched. Having 3D sonar technology already installed in everyone’s cell phones probably years ahead of him even knowing he would need it… I don’t know, you tell me.
But then we have a reactor that someone can fit inside of a hole in his chest while he flies around in a suit of armor that can take a direct hit from a tank’s sabot round…
The only difference is, Iron Man never tried to be more serious and more realistic than it actually was, while TDK did. So that is why some people find it harder to accept the unrealistic aspects of TDK. **IN MY FREAKIN OPINION**
Being able too read ‘SWAT’ on a police officer with sonar technology is not far-fetched it is ridiculous.
The Dark Knight has a few flaws but the rest of the film is so remarkable who cares?
I don’t think you should compare TDK and IM. One is a crime thriller not fit for children. The latter is a fun, family comic-book movie. The genre they fit into is completely different as far as plausibility, style and tone.
Just to argue, if Tony Stark is as brilliant as they make him out to be — why wouldn’t he be able to build that suit? That’s kind of the point.
Yah, well unfortunately there can’t be a single mention of Iron Man without TDK fanboys jumping in to tell us how much IM sucks compared to TDK. So it’s no wonder fans of IM get defensive.
I’m a fan of both, but I can’t help but want to side with IM because of the way TDK fanboys tend to act, I feel like I SHOULD go against them because of this fact, but I still keep my argument based on logic.
But don’t worry, I’m not letting that simple fact affect my opinion on the film… too much… I guess it’s impossible for it to not at all, but I still like it, but it does have many flaws. I would just like for the fanboys to at least acknowledge the flaws. They act like it is a flawless movie, and it’s not, not by a long shot. It actually has many more plot holes and things that go against logic compared to many other movies, but there are plenty of good qualities that balances it all out so you’re willing to accept them. Maybe even make up excuses for them in your mind just to keep a positive view.
Just like I, or any other IM fan, would admit IM’s many faults, some of these blind people need to wake up and realize that TDK had just as many, if not more, flaws. But it was aiming higher, and you’re bound to make more mistakes when the ambitions are so high. Higher than they should have been in my opinion. I would have liked a slightly simpler movie from TDK, because sometimes it seems like it’s trying real hard to be high brow. When something seems like it’s trying real hard instead of it just coming naturally, it’s distracting.
@ Ken J
Good post.
I liked IM better, but I guess that’s because I don’t like Batman story.
Yes, that’s right. I said it.
I never understood people’s fascination with Batman. When reading stories about superheroes, I like them to be epic (as in, when they fight big threats and the destiny of the humanity or the world depends on their victory). Batman always bored me because he usually fights street-level villains, and the worst it could happen if he were to lose, would be the destruction of Gotham City.
I guess that’s the reason Ra’s Al Ghul is one of the few Bat-villains I like.
AAARGH. I meant to write “I liked IM better, but I guess that’s because I don’t like Batman stories.”
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