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		<title>By: Terminator Franchise Rights Up For Grabs&#8230;Oops &#171; MovieDriver &#8211; Hollywood Teamster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terminator Franchise Rights Up For Grabs&#8230;Oops &#171; MovieDriver &#8211; Hollywood Teamster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 01:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] If you want to read details of The Halcyon Co.’s financial quagmire, go here. If you want to know about the convoluted history of the Terminator franchise rights, go here. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Terminator Franchise Rights Up For Grabs - Screen Rant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terminator Franchise Rights Up For Grabs - Screen Rant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] If you want to read details of The Halcyon Co.&#8217;s financial quagmire, go here. If you want to know about the convoluted history of the Terminator franchise rights, go here. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 00:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s begin with a sweeping generalization which I will hopefully later explain,

&quot;HOLLYWOOD HAS LOST IT&#039;S BALLS.&quot;

The Terminator in 1984 was an excellent if low&#039;ish budget movie and a massive success, and why?, the special effects were very good for the time but not awesome, it was basically just a chase movie so why did it work?. &quot;The idea&quot; &quot;The idea&quot; &quot;The idea&quot; Jim Cameron had a great idea it&#039;s that simple.

Terminator 2 again a massive success why it was just another chase movie, massive budget and hugely improved special effects, but that wasn&#039;t the key to it&#039;s success. Again it was the &quot;idea&quot; Cameron again had a brilliant &quot;idea&quot;, turn the scenario on it&#039;s head a bit having the big Austrian protect the central protagonist and not trying to destroy him. A real stroke of genius that worked perfectly.

Terminator 3 really failed on exactly the same premise. No new idea, no spark, Typical hollywood money machine fodder. &quot;Let&#039;s take the best bits of the previous two and it&#039;ll work&quot;. Well as we all know it just didn&#039;t.

So where could the franchise go but into the post judgement day era, and it really should have worked in mixing the terminator franchise with a Mad Max world. I really enjoyed Salvation but not on any other level than a pretty good action movie, I had no intention of writing a blog about it were it not for the rumours I am already hearing on the web. I just didn&#039;t feel opinionated enough to add my 50 cents to the cloud of noise but now I have to.

So it seems evident already that Salvation will make a profit, will do well at the box office, well enough to justify a 5th chapter, but already and in no small part because the film has not terminated everything else at the box office there is shear panic about what chapter 5 should be.

When Mr charlies angels was recruited to deliver terminator 4, I was of the same mind as many that this guy isn&#039;t up to the job, but let&#039;s look at where McG has shown the mythology great respect.

T600 rubber skin check !
HK&#039;s check
Kyle learning how to tie off his shotgun to himself (really subtle nod to the original)
The Sarah tapes, photo and redheaded wife of connor, chech, check and check !
Action, chase sequences and lots of explosions check.
The Connor scar (ok a bit of a clumsy &quot;look, look we expain that too&quot; moment)

Ok he&#039;s made mistakes, the brilliant cgi Arnie just wasn&#039;t that brilliant, destroyed city vista&#039;s are great but not if they are flanked by obviously 50 yr old forests (paint them out in post, you lazy fool, if concrete doesn&#039;t survive a nuclear blast neither does timber). The marcus character was a bit of a weak idea, but overall it was far better than chapter 3 in the franchise but not a batman begin&#039;s reboot moment.

The news on Terminator 5 is truely terrifying. A time travelling john Conner, Hk&#039;s travelling through time, Robert Patrick as a scientist obviously designing the t-1000 (Alien 3 anyone?). If even one of these rumours hold&#039;s any water what it tells me is the money men are saying...

&quot;T4 isn&#039;t going to make us a boat load of cash PANNNICCCC, copy the old films, bring in the people from the old films, travel through time, do anything to make it rock&quot;

Any respect for the timeline of the original trilogy that was shown in T4 would be terminated, trampled over and crushed underfoot worse than any damage to the poxy little T.V series cash in &quot;Sarah Connor Chronicles&quot; ever did.

Show some balls McG stick to your gun&#039;s progress the franchise in the post judgement day era, do no capitulate to money driven fools who wish to patronise the audience with &quot;you just want a robot chasing someone in present day L.A really don&#039;t you, ok we&#039;ll go back to that formulae&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s begin with a sweeping generalization which I will hopefully later explain,</p>
<p>&#8220;HOLLYWOOD HAS LOST IT&#8217;S BALLS.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Terminator in 1984 was an excellent if low&#8217;ish budget movie and a massive success, and why?, the special effects were very good for the time but not awesome, it was basically just a chase movie so why did it work?. &#8220;The idea&#8221; &#8220;The idea&#8221; &#8220;The idea&#8221; Jim Cameron had a great idea it&#8217;s that simple.</p>
<p>Terminator 2 again a massive success why it was just another chase movie, massive budget and hugely improved special effects, but that wasn&#8217;t the key to it&#8217;s success. Again it was the &#8220;idea&#8221; Cameron again had a brilliant &#8220;idea&#8221;, turn the scenario on it&#8217;s head a bit having the big Austrian protect the central protagonist and not trying to destroy him. A real stroke of genius that worked perfectly.</p>
<p>Terminator 3 really failed on exactly the same premise. No new idea, no spark, Typical hollywood money machine fodder. &#8220;Let&#8217;s take the best bits of the previous two and it&#8217;ll work&#8221;. Well as we all know it just didn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>So where could the franchise go but into the post judgement day era, and it really should have worked in mixing the terminator franchise with a Mad Max world. I really enjoyed Salvation but not on any other level than a pretty good action movie, I had no intention of writing a blog about it were it not for the rumours I am already hearing on the web. I just didn&#8217;t feel opinionated enough to add my 50 cents to the cloud of noise but now I have to.</p>
<p>So it seems evident already that Salvation will make a profit, will do well at the box office, well enough to justify a 5th chapter, but already and in no small part because the film has not terminated everything else at the box office there is shear panic about what chapter 5 should be.</p>
<p>When Mr charlies angels was recruited to deliver terminator 4, I was of the same mind as many that this guy isn&#8217;t up to the job, but let&#8217;s look at where McG has shown the mythology great respect.</p>
<p>T600 rubber skin check !<br />
HK&#8217;s check<br />
Kyle learning how to tie off his shotgun to himself (really subtle nod to the original)<br />
The Sarah tapes, photo and redheaded wife of connor, chech, check and check !<br />
Action, chase sequences and lots of explosions check.<br />
The Connor scar (ok a bit of a clumsy &#8220;look, look we expain that too&#8221; moment)</p>
<p>Ok he&#8217;s made mistakes, the brilliant cgi Arnie just wasn&#8217;t that brilliant, destroyed city vista&#8217;s are great but not if they are flanked by obviously 50 yr old forests (paint them out in post, you lazy fool, if concrete doesn&#8217;t survive a nuclear blast neither does timber). The marcus character was a bit of a weak idea, but overall it was far better than chapter 3 in the franchise but not a batman begin&#8217;s reboot moment.</p>
<p>The news on Terminator 5 is truely terrifying. A time travelling john Conner, Hk&#8217;s travelling through time, Robert Patrick as a scientist obviously designing the t-1000 (Alien 3 anyone?). If even one of these rumours hold&#8217;s any water what it tells me is the money men are saying&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;T4 isn&#8217;t going to make us a boat load of cash PANNNICCCC, copy the old films, bring in the people from the old films, travel through time, do anything to make it rock&#8221;</p>
<p>Any respect for the timeline of the original trilogy that was shown in T4 would be terminated, trampled over and crushed underfoot worse than any damage to the poxy little T.V series cash in &#8220;Sarah Connor Chronicles&#8221; ever did.</p>
<p>Show some balls McG stick to your gun&#8217;s progress the franchise in the post judgement day era, do no capitulate to money driven fools who wish to patronise the audience with &#8220;you just want a robot chasing someone in present day L.A really don&#8217;t you, ok we&#8217;ll go back to that formulae&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Latest &#8216;Terminator&#8217; noisy, not too human &#124; pbpulse.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Latest &#8216;Terminator&#8217; noisy, not too human &#124; pbpulse.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 14:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  The Battle Over The Rights To Terminator 5  (screenrant.com) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: 790</title>
		<link>http://screenrant.com/rights-terminator-5-heath-8558/comment-page-1/#comment-89001</link>
		<dc:creator>790</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 17:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t wait to see if this new Terminator succeeds or fails...</description>
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		<title>By: Marcus Wright</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcus Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 07:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SAVE TERMINATOR!!!

WATCH:

http://www.fox.com/fod/play.php?sh=tscc

JOIN:

http://terminatorwiki.fox.com/thread</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SAVE TERMINATOR!!!</p>
<p>WATCH:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fox.com/fod/play.php?sh=tscc" rel="nofollow">http://www.fox.com/fod/play.php?sh=tscc</a></p>
<p>JOIN:</p>
<p><a href="http://terminatorwiki.fox.com/thread" rel="nofollow">http://terminatorwiki.fox.com/thread</a></p>
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		<title>By: Heath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 22:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gary,

Thanks!  It&#039;s pretty convoluted but crazy, as usual.  The old rights to Spider-Man was an even BIGGER mess.  Once Sony got through it, all they faced was MGM/UA so they threatened to remake Thunderball with Liam Neeson as Bond (they had the rights to that movie).  MGM/UA traded the remaining Spidey rights for that film and Sony made history with Spider-Man.

heath</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary,</p>
<p>Thanks!  It&#8217;s pretty convoluted but crazy, as usual.  The old rights to Spider-Man was an even BIGGER mess.  Once Sony got through it, all they faced was MGM/UA so they threatened to remake Thunderball with Liam Neeson as Bond (they had the rights to that movie).  MGM/UA traded the remaining Spidey rights for that film and Sony made history with Spider-Man.</p>
<p>heath</p>
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		<title>By: JessSayin</title>
		<link>http://screenrant.com/rights-terminator-5-heath-8558/comment-page-1/#comment-88709</link>
		<dc:creator>JessSayin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 22:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everybody wants a &quot;Piece of the action&quot;

(Star Trek OS, Episode 17)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everybody wants a &#8220;Piece of the action&#8221;</p>
<p>(Star Trek OS, Episode 17)</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 19:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heath,
You did a great  job decoding a veritable Runiks Cube of Hollywood shenannigans.
WELL DONE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heath,<br />
You did a great  job decoding a veritable Runiks Cube of Hollywood shenannigans.<br />
WELL DONE!</p>
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		<title>By: Matt K</title>
		<link>http://screenrant.com/rights-terminator-5-heath-8558/comment-page-1/#comment-88520</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 15:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t care if McG directs it as long as he doesn&#039;t write that draft he already proposed for Terminator 5</description>
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		<title>By: Cat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 14:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t care who owns the rights as long as McG is gone.</description>
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		<title>By: BJ Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>BJ Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 13:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Vince Mcmahon would say &quot;It&#039;s all about the moonaaaay!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Vince Mcmahon would say &#8220;It&#8217;s all about the moonaaaay!&#8221;</p>
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