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heath says:

I’m surprised you gave it 3 stars outta 5 instead of 2 or 2.5.

heath

Chip Chief says:

Vic,

I miss the podcasts buddy. :(

Screen Rant says:

Heath, it wasn’t awful, I just felt indifferent, mostly. But I did like the beginning and end, plus I’m getting to the point where I look at my past reviews and have to decide where new movies fit in ratings-wise compared to those.

Vic

Screen Rant says:

Thanks, Chip. I’ll see about getting one out today. I should have done one last week, but really I don’t find them easy to do.

Vic

Brian says:

I’m surprised that you gave this film the low score that you did, and compared it to a film that it doesn’t deserve being compared to. There’s no more reason to compare this film to The Princess Bride than to The Godfather. The way I see it, you simply wanted to go and see The Princess Bride, and when it failed to be that film, you were disappointed. That’s your fault, not the film’s.

The fact is that this film was based on novels by Neil Gaiman, whom also didn’t want it to be The Princess Bride. Quite frankly, I’m appalled every time critics choose to compare one movie with another because it becomes obvious they wish they’d simply watched the other and never even went to see the picture they are supposed to be critiquing.

The next time you want a film to be something it was never intended to be, just stay at home and drop in the film you wanted to see. At least this way we’ll never have to hear you complain that a film wasn’t like a completely different film that had zero connections to the one you wanted it to be. Your critique completely left out Denero and his antics because you were probably upset that he wasn’t more like Andre the Giant!

When this film comes out, I’ll own it. Conveniently enough, I also own The Princess Bride. At least I’ll never confuse the two.

Screen Rant says:

Brian,

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, even you. :-)

I didn’t go in looking to see The Princess Bride, I really didn’t know much about the film beyond the trailer I saw at Comic-Con. Even there, I have to say, what I saw seemed a bit “off.” My comparison is based upon the fairy tale nature of the story combined with the style and attempts at humor in the film.

Even taking out any reference to TPB, the film still felt flat and like it missed the mark to me. I just mentioned the other film as a point of reference.

I stand by my review.

Vic

Brian says:

Vic,

Yes, everyone is entitled to their opinion, and you gave yours in a fashion I felt was based upon the story line of The Princess Bride. You stated that you based your review upon “the fairy tale nature of the story combined with the style and attempts at humor in the film”. How many films exist that meet that requirement? Thousands? Tens of thousands? When you saw the film in the theater, did you notice all of the previews were of films along the same fantasy genre? Did you compare those to The Princess Bride?

I don’t make a dime for my opinions one way or another so there’s nothing for me to gain by defending this film against comparisons to others. You mentioned it being “a bit off”, and for someone expecting the humor of The Princess Bride, I can clearly understand that.

I was in a theater with I’d guess at least one hundred other people seeing this film. There were several laughs from the crowd throughout the film and I think everyone left happy. It had an amazing cast (whoever that guy was playing the goat was hilarious) great visual effects, and a good story line (more complex than The Princess Bride).

I give this film four stars.

heath says:

Brian,

I think Vic ended up comparing Princess Bride, because since the book came out, people were comparing it to that seminal William Goldman novel (his favorite he’s written, from what I can gather) and the excellent Rob Reiner-directed film version.

In all the press I saw, The Princess Bride kept popping up; Director Vaughn’s wife read it and claimed it was great and he should direct it. And, of course, she mentioned T.P.B. I think even if you never knew of that, you’d end up thinking, huh, in the vein of T.P.B.

Besides, the movie tanked, unfortunately, over the weekend. It made half what the studio hoped it would make. Many analysts and pundits said it was difficult to market, etc. T.P.B. tanked in theatres and found its audience on home video. Perhaps the same will happen; I eagerly await the DVD release.

heath

heath says:

Here’s analysis by major Hollywood news writer and opinion maker, Nikki Finke:

http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/rush-hour-threequel-wont-top-sequel-bourne-still-delivering-big-ultimatum/

heath

Screen Rant says:

Sigh…

Brian, when I saw the initial trailer I had NO preconceived notions about the movie, Princess Bride or otherwise, and I stated that above. Seeing the trailer for the first time at the Con, knowing NOTHING about it WHATSOEVER left me feeling like there was something missing.

I didn’t walk into the theater with any expectations and the Princess Bride comparison didn’t occur to me until I was sitting in the theater watching the film, got it? The MOVIE made me think of TPB as I watched it, I didn’t walk into the theater thinking about TPB.

I’m not the only one who didn’t think the movie was awesome:

“Vaughn, who made the enjoyably tricky gangster movie Layer Cake, gets points for ambition, but this antic fantasy eludes his grasp.” – David Ansen, Newsweek

“There are lots of good things in the movie, but they play more like vaudeville acts than part of a coherent plot. It’s a film you enjoy in pieces, but the jigsaw never gets solved.” – Roger Ebert, Ebert & Roeper

“Stardust staggers with end-of-summer excess, seldom winning more than a weary gasp.” – David Elliot, San Diego Union Tribune

“There are parts of this film that actually try to fly. The vast majority though is grounded in a level of labored levity that never provides the wings – or the wherewithal – to get airborne.” Bill Gibron, Popmatters

“The movie isn’t remotely as sardonic or irreverent as it so clearly wants to be.” Wesley Morris, Boston Globe

Oh, and looky here:

“An overstuffed, overlong epic with a tongue-in-cheek approach that repeatedly begs unfavorable comparisons with The Princess Bride.” – Lou Lumenick, New York Post

As I’ve stated in other posts here on Screen Rant, you are free to go to blogger.com and start up your own movie review site if you believe so passionately in the merits of this movie.

Best regards,

Vic

Brian says:

Vic,

Let’s not get testy. I’ll not start up my own blog about reviews when there are so many out there. Most of the reviews above sound arrogant to put it politely. These same people reviewing the films probably loathed 90% of the films most people love. Heath mentioned above that TPB tanked in theaters as well, and most people you run into will say they loved the film (I can’t even begin to count the times I’ve seen it – and I own it), and yet it did less than expected in theaters.

The problem I find with other critics (you haven’t done this yet that I’m aware of) is that they’ve sold out. They give horrible reviews to great films and state that their favorite films are Casablanca and Gone With The Wind.

We’ll agree to disagree on this film. I think it was a great film, wasn’t hollow at all, and the only thing I think they could have done to improve it a bit more is let the camera drop a bit when Michelle Pfieffer dropped her robe.

Screen Rant says:

Brian,

First, I appreciate having you comment here even if we disagree. The reason I got “testy” (and this happens even when my wife does this) is that you repeatedly insisted that I came into the movie determined to compare it to The Princess Bride, which was not the case. It drives me nuts when people presume to know what I’m thinking, get it wrong and insist that they know what was going on in my head better than I do… and it’s MY head! :-)

Regarding review styles, although I’m sure I’m more critical than the average moviegoer, I do not write reviews from an “ivory tower” perspective. I’ve mentioned elsewhere that I review movies within the context of their genre and I realize that you need to use different criteria when comparing “Casablanca” to “Aliens”, two movies that are completely and utterly different from each other but to which I would give both 5/5.

And I agree that Michelle Pfieffer looked incredible especially considering her age. :-)

Vic

Jim says:

I didn’t really think about The Princess Bride through this film…but I agree that you, Vic, and I have pretty much the same opinion on the film. It was odd how my wife (not into fantasy at all) seemed to love it, and I was disappointed. I guess I expected a lot more from something based on a Gaiman work. She went in with low expectations. I’m really surprised at how many people loved it so much.

Screen Rant says:

Well it certainly was far from terrible, it just missed the mark IMHO.

Vic

Neville Ross says:

Oh god, it wasn’t like The Princess Bride.
Poppycock!

Stardust was a great movie on its own, without all the comparisions to The Princess Bride. It made me laugh out really hard in most places, and did what it was supposed to do: entertain me. Whatever it did or did not look like The Princess Bride meant jackt to me, and I suppose it meant jack to most eeverybody else as well-your sourpuss review didn’t take that away from me or them.

Too bad it didn’t make any money, but hey, neither did The Princess Bride, and look how that turned out eventually. I know that I’ll be getting this one on home video.

Screen Rant says:

Sorry Neville, we’ll have to agree to disagree on this one.

Even removing comparisons to “The Princess Bride”, on it’s own I thought “Stardust” was just ok despite it’s great production values.

Vic

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