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“You would thing that he would grow some pair after leaving feudal Japan”

EXACTLY. I don’t recall the amount of time he was there, but it was quite a while, and the showed that he grew as a person and in maturity. Apparently that’s all gone and he’s back to “goofy Hiro.”

At least they DID explain why sometimes the “going back in time one minute” might not work.

Vic

the old man says:

thriller said,: “They really need to bring some badass comic book writers, those guys know what people want to see and can develop superhero characters.”

Fire the producer and bring this guy on board.. Been reading this rant since September, and the first time this has been suggested here, that I can find.

Freddie Puszka says:

Hi !!!! I just hope that the screen director from heroes will take a look at this. I think that if he puts it on screen, that will help heroes !! hE SHOULD MAKE Daphne millbrook and Elle bishop be sisters. (bob bishop puts Daphne in an orphanege because he is scared of his daughter)Elle is born 2 years after, he keeps her because now he knows what are abilities, now that he is working for the company. Then Freddie Bishop is born (ability: meteorologique elements(tornados, storms ..+ electricity from his sister and superspeed).And finally, Nick bishop age 12, put into care because the agents at the company tell him to abandonne Nick
(ability:earthquaques)
That would be fantastic, im a huge fan !!
PLEASE DO IT, PLEASE !!!! With the special affects, they would be incredible ! Good luck !!

Fadian says:

I thought Season 1 was amazing. Season 2 had a few good episodes but on the hole it was a rehash of season 1 but without the mystery and done in half the time. Season 3 is just wretched. There’s no continuity : what happened to Caitlin/Monica? Peter was missing presumed dead for the whole of series 2 but upon seeing him on the news, Claire just picks up her phone and calls him on his mobile. It took her a whole 11 episodes to think of that?
Characters swing from being bad to good and vice versa within minutes. Sylar/ Mohinder/Claire/Peter have all done u-turns on their characters but there is no progression detailing how they got there. Sylar is now Angela’s son so he is trying to be good. Peter got “The Hunger” (ugh) and is suddenly a psychopath. Mohinder is The Fly (a reference here and there would count as an homage to the Cronenberg movie, this is just an outright ripoff). If this was series 1, Peter’s descent into homicidal maniac would’ve taken 3 episodes at least. We got it in 10 minutes. It’s too fast. Plus “The Hunger” is just a massive backtrack of a retcon of a failed plot device. Sylar was just a puppet all along and he didn’t murder because of his obssession with being special?
Remember when Angela said Matt would be just like his father if he forced the name of that company woman out of her? What happened to him turning villain and abusing his ability? Instead we get a “spirit walk” in Africa with another precognitive painter.
The show seems to be about ability theft now. Sylar/Peter/Arthur all do this in some form or another. It’s just about who can get the most abilites. Having Arthur steal all of Peter’s powers was one of the biggest mistakes the writers ever made. Remember how stupid they had to make Peter look in order to carry on the storyline? Like how he had a gun pointed at him and a child whose life was at risk but he wouldn’t stop time and save him? That’s just one example. Arthur should be unstoppable now but I;m sure he’ll end up dead due to not using the most obvious ability at the right time. All this time travel BS has to end aswell.

Ergo Proxy says:

@ Fadian,

I couldn’t have said it any better… yet there’s so much more that’s gone rotten in this show that, it’s amazing to see people who actually thinks this is as good as last season. Somehow those people just didn’t get the point of the first season or they’re just able to really pay attention to quality and will watch anything with eye candy.

Having said that I did in fact give up on Heroes, I did that after 5 episodes into season 3. I gave them a full season and 5 episodes to justify why I should keep watching after knowing that season 2 was one horrible mess that simply couldn’t get better even if they pumped it up with adrenalin.

Either way, we’re looking at a show that’s going to be talked about, referenced to and probably laughed at for years to come. The truth about Heroes and Tim Kring or whatever he’s called, will be on E faster than you can find an episode with substance in season 2-3 and 4 if they ever get that long.

Ultimately this show called HEROES, is nothing but LOOSERS and for me is one EPIC FAIL in the history of over confident PR on a show like this.

RIP Heroes.

jc in chicago says:

Fadian,
Great post! This could have been a very dark year for heroes, with some closeups on how powers can be abused and the thirst for power can corrupt. The issue with Peter’s power-rape of Sylar was an example. Also excellent irony: Peter already displayed “hunger” when he ripped this out of Sylar. (And in the ensuing episodes, did he use this power to “fix” time? Wasn’t that the premise of snagging the ability of “knowing how things work”?)

The Peter-turned Sylar is something I imagined from season one, where I thought the twist was that Peter would absorb Sylar’s power (we did hear the “Sylar voice” out of him once or twice) and that it would in fact be Peter, not Sylar, who killed Isaac in Hiro’s future.

Too bad the Dark Peter lasted shorter this year than it did in season 2. I’m assuming his “hunger” is gone into his dad. But because the road to obtain these powers again would be long, I’m sure that Kring’s favorite plot device–the Reset Button–will be called into play and Peter will be just as we knew him, minus The Hunger.

>>Remember when Angela said Matt would be just like his father if he forced the name of that company woman out of her? What happened to him turning villain and abusing his ability?<<

I agree, Fadian. This too would have been a great natural Hero-to-Villian change, but I think Kring is playing to the High School Musical fanbase that doesn’t want anything “really” bad to happen to anyone. Don’t “really” change Peter, don’t “really” change Mohinder. Don’t “really” kill Nikki.

Fadian says:

Thanks Ergo Proxy, jc. I’ve seen up to episode 7 and it looks like it’s going to continue screwing up the series. The way it’s going now it seems like they HAVE pumped it full of adrenaline. It’s gone hyper. It’s out of control. There’s just too much happening in each episode. In series 1 you would get a cliffhanger at the end of each episode; series 3 you’re getting cliffhangers every 15 minutes, new characters appearing and being killed off or ‘dealt’ with in the space of a single episode and regular trips to the future to see an event or timeline that has to be stopped. It’s like the show developed ADD and took a sugar overdose at Disneyland.

I really wonder what people saw in the first series that they think they are now seeing in series 3.

“This could have been a very dark year for heroes, with some closeups on how powers can be abused and the thirst for power can corrupt.”

Agreed. Instead they gave us characters doing 180’s on themselves with no hesitation and constant whining about being indestructible and superpowered. Peter and Sylar should’ve slowly changed over the series, perhaps with the two of them facing off at the end, Peter turning villain and Sylar trying to stop him. A reversal of series 1.
As it happens, Kring just needed Peter to lose his powers and the only way he could think of doing that, presumably, was by giving him Sylar’s so he would run headlong into Pinehearst and get vamp’d by his dad. Similarly the only way he could think of making Sylar turn good was by making his murderous tendencies a part of his ability that he could not control. Which is just a cop out, in my opinion.
The show now seems to favour the people with the more flashy abilities. The ones that look good in action sequences. Micah had a really interesting ability which could’ve been used in some great storylines. Monica aswell. But the writers want people that can fly at light speed and shoot lasers out of their eyes. It’s all “INCREDIBLE POWER!!!” and “UNIMAGINABLE DESTRUCTION!!!” as HRG said.
The action is much more exciting when there is something to lose and the main characters in series 3 are just too powerful.

“I think Kring is playing to the High School Musical fanbase that doesn’t want anything “really” bad to happen to anyone. Don’t “really” change Peter, don’t “really” change Mohinder. Don’t “really” kill Nikki.”

Again, I agree, unfortunately. Who honestly thought for a second that Hiro had killed Ando? Was Matt really stupid enough to not use his mind controlling ability on Knox and let him tear out his heart?
Don’t “really” kill anyone. Don’t “really” do something unexpected. Don’t “really” think up an original storyline. Don’t “really” write an interesting script.

Cheers

I am looking forward to fourth season.

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