After a very long wait, and a somewhat disappointing second season, Heroes has finally returned for Season 3: Villains.
At the end of season 2, Sylar (Zachary Quinto) had just gotten his powers back, Noah Bennet aka “HRG” (Jack Coleman) had just gone back to work for “the company” in order to spare his family, and Nathan Petrelli (Adrian Pasdar) had been apparently fatally shot just as he was about to reveal his ability to fly to the world.
BTW, full-on spoilers in the review below.
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Heroes is run by folks (led by series creator Tim Kring) who actually listen to the fans, take their complaints to heart, and use that information to improve the show. This season there will be no slow, dragged out story arcs, and Kring says there will not be any new characters introduced (although this episode seems to contradict that). This season will also be comprised of two “volumes.” The first half of the season will be called “Villains,” but there is no title for the second half yet.
Enough of that… on to the season opener!
The episode opens with Claire (Hayden Panettiere, looking all “Matrixed” out in black leather) trying to kill Peter (Milo Ventimiglia), four years after Nathan’s announcement of his powers. Peter goes back in time to change the past, since it seems that things became very bad for super-powered beings after Nathan’s revelation.
So yes, the assassin is Peter Petrelli from the future.
Cut to Japan, where Hiro (Masi Oka) now owns his father’s corporation. He’s quite bored by the whole thing and yearning for a new quest. Of course, the show is happy to oblige. He watches a video left behind by his father stating that he needs to guard the contents of a safe (without ever opening it), the contents of which could lead to the end of the world. It is half of some sort of chemical formula.
Of course, he opens it.
A blonde girl who moves as fast as The Flash promptly steals it. And here lies the first thing that bugged me about this episode: Why didn’t Hiro just go back in time 60 seconds and put that piece of paper back in the damned safe?
Instead he goes to the future, sees his best friend Ando (James Kyson Lee) who is now super-powered kill him, and the destruction of Tokyo.
Nathan was dead for all of five seconds, but came back to life somehow – and claims to have seen God. I’m curious how they develop this and how it comes across to fans as he comes across downright born-again. Linderman is also back despite the fact that he seemed definitively dead during last season. Turns out he healed Nathan and has big plans for him.
Sylar finds Claire, intent on once again trying to take her healing power. He does the skull slice trick on her, sucks her powers… but surprisingly, leaves her alive after a very creepy scene in which he talks to her while he has the top of her skull off. Sylar tells Claire that she is not like the others – she is special and she can never die. And now, neither can he.
Suresh (Sendhil Ramamurthy) is with Maya (Dania Ramirez, who unfortunately is still on the show) and she still wants to be cured. He flashes on the idea that the abilities are not based in the blood but in the adrenal gland. Suddenly he shifts his research (and ridiculously quickly creates a serum) from curing super-powers to being able to give them to anyone via an injection.
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Yes, he should have. In season 1, his future self was mature; so when does it happen? I liked the episode (lots of action) but I have a problem; wasn’t Nathan Petrelli able to fly even with the Haitian around him? Also, what’s up with the cop and the African future reader? Can the cop read the future just by putting on headphones? Inquiring minds want to know.
Looks like Tracy isn’t another part of Nikki after all.
I also like where their going with Sylar. He still needs to figure out how to control his urge to steal powers but I like how he handled himself with the cops.
@Ergo Proxy,,,
(”Remember at the end of the day, once you leave this site, you should leave with it with a smile on your face, or a “Ohh I see” or “How interesting”)
Or like me, when I leave the site I usually learn how to spell better.
Just last week I learned how to spell Hilarious…
All this time I was spelling it Halarious…
Thanks Screen Rant!
790,
Did you hear about James Cameron? Did you hear how he actually DENIES ever having blessed the new Terminator movie by McG?
Ouch!!!! I gotta say, that’s pretty bad! To be honest, coming out and saying that I have the blessing from such a respected director and then lying about it is just a low blow.
James said, for all he knows it might be a big steaming pile of Donky Kong! But then he also said, it might also be very good, but he hasn’t read the script and as such, he cannot say anything about it…
Ahh, by the way I’m back from a major spring cleaning of my 1TB HHD House… I managed to throw out old MBs and dust off some long forgotten ones as well…
Sorry, I’m not being very professional…
Here’s the link to back it up :
http://filmonic.com/james-cameron-has-not-given-his-blessing-to-terminator-salvation
Not quite what you want from the PR side of things huh?
Thanks for the heads ups, Ergo Proxy.
Yeah I have a feeling the films gonna be an epic failure… If the kill Connor its over for Mcg.
^
Heroes !!!!
Is it still Heroes and Villains ?
Those were the dumbest villians I’ve ever seen.
(I hate to say it but they reminded me of the villians in Ghost Rider). Yeah yeah yeah ,,,
Vic, Hiro’s allways been kinda dopey.
Since the future has been thrown in the blender, who knows if will ever see the future smart version of Hiro.
And there’s 2 Peters now ??????
(Peterdox)
I love all the Batman references.
Sylar teaming up with HRG was classic! HRG is my favorite character!!
There’s allways gonna be something wrong with the story but I love the show. Its just pure escapism.
Personally, I think that one of the things that is really holding this show back are the writers insisting on not allowing any of the characters to grow emotionally, with the notable exceptions of Niki(RIP) and Peter.
Claire in season two(and a little bit this season) is almost unbearable after all that she learned and showed by the end of season one, to turn back into some petulant high schooler is very awkward to me.
Hiro almost appears to have regressed. He was always earnest about changing the future and making things better, and then he sees the moment with Andro and all of a sudden it is inevitable, and does not appear to be interested in finding the reasons or changing it?
Finally, Mohinder. If you want him to develop a desire for a power, or for that matter, give him a level of jealousy for those who do have a power, at least develop it over time, not just off the basis of one moment. Or if you do, at least make it a life changing event, like killing off someone close to him, where if he had an ability he might have saved them…you know, the typical superhero influence
Thanks guys for all of the information and I look forward to next week’s installment!
Did anyone catch the Star Trek character reference?
Worse than tired of Hiro. Tired, so tired, of goofy music during every Hiro & Ando Show.
Yes, when does the Kick-Ass “Future Hiro” show up? I didn’t even know it was the same actor.
Heroes continues to get worse with each episode. It’s really sad, this show had everything going for it, great concept, great show, great cast, and yet before the first season hit the half way point there were already noticeable differences in the quality of the writing. Now the show has become almost painful to watch and I don’t think I can hold out any longer. If I wanted to watch something stupid I would have just watched some reality TV.
@ Pete,
I couldn’t agree more… At this point the show is drowning, kicking and screaming for the last few breaths… and yes, it’s painful to see…
It’s odd to see a show start off SO amazingly, to end up so horribly because of the obvious lack of imagination after whatever happened with the writers.
The saddest thing about it is that it’s all going to hurt for all the people hired to do the show, when they will get the notice that they are out of job when they cancel the show.
I barely made it through season 2, the quality and disappointments were unbearable. It was so bad I was almost blocking out the idiotic changes and bad writing… so I’m having a hard time to figure out just how they could have gone from this to that etc.
The promise was to give Heroes ONE LAST chance… I thought about giving it till the end of season 3… but I change my mind… I’ll give it till mid season and if it’s still as unimaginative and uncreative, I’ll switch it off and close the door on Heroes for good. It’s simply not going anywhere creative or exciting.
Episode one in Season 3, showed just how bad the state of writing for the show is, episode 2 in season 3 showed that it’s going to be a lot of the same regurgitated stuff from season 2 and in episode 3, it all just went down the drain….
Sylar’s mom is now the same as the brothers… very dumb twist, not to mention a very poor way to introduce that part of the story after episode 2 and then just leave it that way. Then the “Men in Black” team up was simply a waste of my time to watch… They tried to see how Syaler or do we call him Gabriel now? The fallen one? Stupid… Now Nathan has become religious on the very loose and totally idiotic bases… Why idiotic? Well… Peter died I don’t know how many times and he’s not become a born again Christian… that was done just to draw in more viewers who probably thought the show was too anti christian or whatever…
Now the black guy is painting in the same style as the other painter Mendez and to make matters worse… he didn’t even know about Mendez??? or visa versa? And now all it takes is take some juice and now Parkman or as the black dude calls him Packman (ok it just sounds like it but still), has the same powers just by doing that?!?!??!
First of all Mendez became that way because the drugs were able to do that to him. Peter could because of his empathic powers… Parkman can because???? Yeah makes no sense..
And the whole Nathan is the only one who can see Linderman… yeah that’s a rip off theme from Farscape and more recently BSG.
It seems they might as well just either stop the show… or pause it and rehire people who can actually write!
Too bad… I loved first season and I think I’ll just remember that show for that one season… the rest makes no sense… at alllllllllllll!
Actually, I liked both episodes. Sure, season one was better and season 2 was kind of 90210-ish, but I like the way their going with Sylar. Also, Mendez was able to use his power without drugs after being trained; and Parkman couldn’t do the “soul walk” until he put on headphones, which does sound kinda lame. Peter didn’t die because he had already absorbed the blond cheerleaders power. The Nathan born-again thing…yeah, this requires some explanation.
@ Master Kahless
You know, I’m thinking the music Parkman is listening to, as well as that new painter guy, is…. none other than CELINE DION!!! ;p Ok I have no idea what it is they listen to… We’ll probably never know cause it’s SUCH a bad idea…
You’re right season 2 is very much like a 90210 season (though I never saw the show, I hear it’s sillier than a fly on crack). HOWEVER, I might have a poor memory when it comes to what happened in Season 2, I actually don’t remember what happened to Claire’s flyboy. That’s a bit odd that not only did they not mention him, but even the start of the show, Claire and family seemed pretty ok with the fact that the father was shot dead… I don’t get that… what am I missing?
I like Sylar, I really do, but they are now tossing these characters left and right, making them loose their roots in the show. It’s good in a VERY well written show, but in this case, it’s a bit off. Actually a lot… Like Dr. Suresh.
As an example, here’s what I miss and wish they could have expanded on and built on more in the past season and the current one.
Alright… here’s my wish list that never came true :
First and foremost, I loved the brothers theme and how they turned it into a sacrifice etc. that was very moving and worked well… I wanted the change that was shown at the very end of the first season to evolve into something more solid and make the brothers even more important and powerful. Nathan isn’t really using his powers at all… He’s pretty much useless… He’s done almost nothing in season 2 and season 3 (so far).
Hiro and Ando… Oh man… I wanted something SO much more from the Hiro theme… I wanted him to become his own legend… instead, he’s just as silly and useless as he was in season 2. Whatever happened to the COOL Hiro? And what ever happened to the sword theme? Not to mention the Hiro and Dinosaur painting!!!
Ando, was really screwed in season 2.. he was just so pointless… yet I just wanted him to have something much more interesting and more profound meaning in the overall Heroes story.
Something that made me very angry and very disappointed was the breakup of Nikki, Micha and J.D (or something like that). The breaking up of the family was the worst thing they did. Why do they ALWAYS have to use the breakups of the family themes on TV???
See I wanted them to remain strong, the super family that stood strong together… I wanted them to become stronger and make personal changes… but instead they killed off both mother and father… who otherwise had cool powers… but became pointless. Now it’s only Micha.. oh but wait… how he’s found another mother who looks like her? Oh and make matters worse, the writers have chosen to make the original Nikki, less special by saying they’ve had a number of them. Poor kid…
I loved Dr. Suresh… he was the philosopher, the voice, the poet in the show… he kept it feeling very harmonious and honest. His purpose was to find the murderer who killed his father… he did and that was cool… but then another mystery was introduced with his sister… what WAS the mystery of his sister? A waste of time? Then they just made him a useless character who’s just tagging along and became vindictive… his personality was broken… he became pointless. And NOW? What is he? The Fly??? Weird…
Parkman… well he’s been a very uninteresting character with a potential of becoming something special… but again, the writers have no idea where to throw him. So they’ve just put him randomly where he’s acting out his cop role. And his father was just again a silly thing to introduce, when he wasn’t even used that very well… what a lame showdown. And now, he’s back? What happened? How did he come back? Where’s the little girl? That was so unrealistic that he was allowed to keep that little girl.. I’d sooner believe that people in real life CAN fly.
Slyar… wow, he was so awesome! The first YOUNG awesome cool, evil guy! His story for me ended in season 1, he was in the back seat in season 2 and was useless and annoying. Then we had the electricity chick who played that part so cartoony that it was painful to see.
Mendez was over and done with in Season 1… so was Linderman… Though I had hoped that the white guy in Hiro’s ancient Japan WAS actually a young Linderman but I guess that was TOO much of a stretch for the writers to pull off…
Claire… perfect in season 1, I wanted to see her suffer internally in season 2. But instead she, only weeks from experiencing the most horrific experience of her life, kicked off the second season with being a brat! Yeah, a brat! She wasn’t even respecting her family, father who she saw shot, etc.. she was just a brat… very badly written if you ask me… her character could and should have been so much better written.
I’m tired.. I’m forgetting someone I’m sure…
but you get my drift…
I just watched Episode 3 last night and I can go on another 5 page rant, but I’ll just try talking about a few of the things BRIEFLY, heh.
Parkman seeing future is stupid,
Again to my problem of the writers not using characters or abilities properly. Hey guys, he reads minds, why not let him read the painter’s mind while he’s in the future-seeing state? wow, there’s an idea. A little better then giving him paste to eat and music which allows him to see the future himself. So anyone can now?
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I agree with Vic. The only good part for me was seeing Sylar team with HRG, although the motivation for that and how Mrs. Petrelli is acting is rediculous.
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So it seems, although the series is called villians, of the 4 that escaped, only one is out there now, lol.
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Why is future Peter acting like such a fool? When he comes and takes present Peter out of Jesse-loudmouth’s body, he forces him to leave right away instead of helping HRG take out the villains. Are these super-powered villains not a problem or something? Why the heck would he not help take them out/put them away.
My only explanation for that is that they must be heading to the past to re-correct the future again.
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Hiro storyline needs to be removed from the show. That character and his sidekick do not fit in, and although they are fan-favourite’s of many, it makes no sense with the rest of the story. If you can stop time/go back, there is no point to any of this crap going on. And since when did he become an 8 year old. Wasn’t it last season where he was stuck in the past saving the world and making big sacrifices?
This new Daphne character is not very appealing to me either.
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Claire’s story is finally going somewhere and it looks like she’s on the hunt for villains – What is he going to do though? She needs a gun or some sort of weapon, healing won’t help her fight super-powered villains.
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Tracy Strauss needs to be removed, although I kinda like how this episode ended with her being ‘created’ like she’s a part of a batch of special clones all with powers…perhaps for the company?
Nathan Petrelli…I am not excited about the political story arc or his involvement with Tracy.
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I think the show should stop going on with these needless and boring time-filler plot lines and should actually focus on good vs. bad.
More villains vs. HRG and some of the good guys teaming up. It almost has to become the X-men, but with an impactful and sensible reason for them coming together against the common enemy.
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And last but not least, for the 3rd season straight the show begins and is based around a bunch of paintings about the future. The main theme being TIME and how convoluted its getting will be the undoing of the show. Its a dangerous plot device to work with and now there are uncorrectable problems scattered throughout the show
*It’s* a dangerous plot device, not “its”
I apologize Vic
@ Rob,
you are spot on with what you say… I could add even more… like whatever happened to Peter’s love from Ireland? I know the future isn’t the same n’all but ehhh it happened in the present.
And yes, while Hiro was a great story in the first season, it’s a waste of time and an obvious sign of bad writers with the silly and often pointless situations they bring these people in. Super powers, yet Nathan is useless, Peter who wad almost GOD like is useless and future Peter is just dumb…
No sign of Future Hiro???? THAT IS ODD!!!!
Ahh I could go on and on and on…
But you’re right…
The show is about to implode!!!!
They can barely handle simple stories and yet they try with a complex time travel story that’s simply too complex and beyond the skills of their writers…
Sad but that’s the fact… Heroes will become a n example of all the things that CAN go wrong in the TV industry…
Heroes is getting so big, there’s not enough time to cover all the characters, and all their relationships properly…
Somebody here, should compile a Heroes character list from all 3 seasons so far…
Also Rob, I’m predicting that Clair will develop the same powers as Sylar, and also the same personality with a female twist.
(The Teen Angst is Strong With This One) 
Now that IS a cool story line, hence it prolly will not happen…making Clair similar to Sylar.
At first, I always saw Peter = Sylar, but obviously they are moving Peter being a lame version of the cool future Hiro.
BTW, can they finally let the cat out of the bag with the scar on Peter already? I mean it is pretty obvious that either Hiro or Adam did it.
Anyhow, I am still willing to give this time, perhaps(?) all of this will make sense when it is all said and done?
@ Realmwalker,
Oh but wait… come to think of it… Future Hiro had an All Black outfit… What’s with the lame stereotyping in this series?
Evil people wear black? Claire gone bad wears black (nice to the eyes though)… Sylar wearing Black…etc…
Meh… this show is loosing value every frame it chops off and sends to the past…
Save the cheerleader, save the world…. That once meant something… now… I couldn’t care less…
What a way to die..
I’ll take Heroes over Fringe !!
Reruns of The Lone Gunman are better.
@790,
AMEN MY BROTHA!
Fringe is beyond stupid… Yet all the Star Trek and Lost (JJA) fanboys are loving it… I must have missed something cause that show is poorly written and is beyond idiotic. And yet, these are the people bringing back Star Trek?
EPIC FAIL….
PS. Lone Gunmen, still has some potential in returning for a new series… Well now that the X-Files failed to make an impact.
Lol,,,Ergo Proxy…
Anyone that’s into this genre can clearly see that Fringe lifts the cast dynamic from The Lone Gunmen, and uses stories from the X-Files, and Millennium…
(That’s the Abrams mark of quality)
He’s the TV equivalent of “Copy and Paste”.
Btw,,, Lone Gunmen Spoilers,,,
The Lone Gunman were killed off in an X-Files episode called, “Jump The Shark”….
Its included as a bonus episode in the Lone Gunmen dvd set.
@790,
Dude!! IF you say, CHECK THE HOOTERS ON THAT HOT CHICK! And then add… DON’T LOOK!!!
What do you think I’ll do???
Damn so they killed them off? Well like Chris Carter told me and keeps saying to everyone… In X-Files… NOBODY really dies…
I like your comparison… Copy / Paste… That’s JJs next TV hit… Copy/Paste, with a cast and crew from Lost and Fringe…
Anyone seen City of Ember? Going to see it this Friday with my girlfriend…
Sorry bout that Ergo…lol. You gotta catch up with your X-Files dvds.
I guess your right in a sense. We did see their ghosts in the final X-Files episode.
All just put this down here,,,,
Spoilers.
I wish I could ,,,,
Cont/Alt/Delete
JJ Apeman.
@Ergo Proxy
Fringe is beyond stupid… Yet all the Star Trek and Lost (JJA) fanboys are loving it
Hold on thar par’ner! I’m a huge Trek fan (in more ways than one
) and I tried watching Fringe but just can’t get into the show. I don’t know if it’s the crazy genius professor or his son calling him by his first name, but it’s just a show that doesn’t have much appeal to me.
As for Heroes, I hear (well, read) what you and Rob are saying and they are very valid points. Hopefully, the writers will somehow redeem themselves by letting us know what’s really going on with these characters and somehow get away from the time-travel arc.
What did happen to the girl Peter was trying to save? It seems like he has totally forgotten about her. The Nikki/Tracy thingy could be interesting; we’ll just have to see where the writers are going with it. I suppose tonight we’ll see what’s going on with Suresh.
@ Master Kahless,
I never took you for a Fanboy, I always took you to be one of the original Trek fans. Those who understand the philosophy and ideals behind Gene’s concept. You know a real Star Trek fan, not those new ones who roam around for the sake of wearing something retro… etc..
Nah, I know you are not a fanboy.
@Ergo Proxy
I definately know more than Brannon Braga and Rick Berman. Of course, that’s not saying much; a Tribble would know more than those dweebs.
I don’t get into the dressing up thing (I doubt if I could find costumes in my size) but I do know a heck of a lot about all the shows (I still watch Enterprise, the worst of all the shows).
But being a comicbook freak of old, especially X-Men, Heroes sent my geek-o-meter into overdrive. The writers have disappointed me on numerous ocassions but I have high hopes they will get back to the Heroes we all knew from season 1. Fringe….well, they will have to show me something better.
@ Master Kahless,
Indeed it is just how I imagined you… one who’s got the passion for the concepts, stories and ideas based on a universe with tons of potential and you too become sensitive to the poor writing or mutilation of certain otherwise safe universes in which some shows reside in.
I too found Enterprise a kick in the balls, head, back, you name it I was beaten up by Enterprise… Mostly cause of the poor writing. I hear it does pick up in the last two seasons but then that’s not the name of the game now is it?
Also, Enterprise tread on holy grounds with that series and made TONS of errors… mainly because it’s a show that’s got History, Canon, Roots and historic as well as social values of todays modern society. It’s not just another TV show. It’s been a voice of hope and has been meant to strive to take people’s imagination far beyond the mundane. While the TOS had a way of transporting the imaginative kind to other worlds, it did manage to place a seed in a new kind of people, who would seek new challenges in life, trying to go where no man has gone before. They became the inspired ones.
TNG had somewhat a similar effect, in that they allowed HONEST and up to date science to build on fascinating new ideas and build a genuinely interesting show. Naturally it had it’s ups and downs… but still… it did birth DS9, VOY and ENT.
Deep Space Nine allowed to be more rough on the edges, but that’s mainly cause of Babylon 5 being a major competitor. If you know anything about what really went on behind the scenes before DS9 was given the green light you’ll know just how much of JMS’s idea was stolen to build that show. But then Paramount needed a new Trek on TV to keep the wheel going and so that turned into something else. JMS originally went to Paramount to sell his idea. I do like DS9 for it’s multiverse of stories and cast, but it failed for me in the first season and ending which wasn’t very Star Trek like, but they had to try and make something like B5 in Trek.
Voyager was something that lasted only half a season for me.. I had serious issues with the Captain… I thought so many of their characters were regurgitated and used so poorly that I couldn’t bare watching anymore. So I stopped… However I’m watching the reruns now and I find my self to be lightly entertained… though I’m watching random episodes so I don’t know what’s what just yet.
Enterprise on the other hand was to put it diplomatically… unappealing to me… They tried so hard to be Farscape, or everything that had the same new feel to it… Enterprise with it’s horrible opening theme… I’m also watching those on rerun, and every time I hear that theme, I turn off that volume. It’s dreadful and so UN TREK LIKE!!!
Anyway, Enterprise went were few Trek has gone before… in the gutter, at warp speed.
It had the weakest captain, the worst Vulcan, the dumbest Communications officer and the most ornamental characters in the history of Trek… namely the pilot.
If I was brought in on Trek while the actors were already assigned to the show, this is how my Enterprise would look with what I had to work with, (cast wise) :
Captain Charles T. Tucker
(He seemed more than capable to be captain and often showed more captain like skills and presence than Archer EVER DID!)
Second in Command T’Pol
(having NORMAL hair not that Romulan fashion, she’s got going on. Also she’d be more open to humans which will become a major theme in the later episodes. She needed to be more Spock than a cardboard woman. She had ok features but she was boring as HELL!)
Third in Command Archer (Science officer)
(His still in the three amigo’s group but still, better than having him to lead)
Tactical Officer / Security / Weapons : LT. Reed
He’s pretty much where he’s supposed to be in that series.
Black Dude (Mayweahter?): Pilot
(See how unimportant his role is? I can’t even remember his name)
Hosi… Communications officer
(Use her or leave her… she was so boring that if they didn’t add some real stories to fill her personality it made her look pretty much like a button on the dashboard on the Enterprise)
The Doctor (Same guy)
(Instead of making him act like he’s on happy drugs, give him an agenda, give him a really horrible dark past that is slowly creeping up on him… make him someone you don’t dare to trust, but you’re forced to.)
Am I forgetting someone?
Anyway, you get my drift…
Star Trek is a vast universe today and it could have gone countless of ways… but when it’s the same idiots who keep on writing and making those shows… there’s NEVER going to be change… And as for Fringe…
That’s just a major disaster a complete joke. And yet… THOSE are the writers to the new Star Trek that will revitalize the franchise? Ouch…
Sorry but the writing in Fringe is a complete joke…
Ego Proxy, you couldn’t BARE watching voyager? TMI! TMI!
-Jim the Typo Gestapo
@ JC in Chicago,
The heck is TMI??
@ 790, Ergo Proxy
I kinda agree with you guys about Fringe.
It is not intelligently written by any means and how they solve the cases are so friggin stupid. The episodes don’t seem to be about that at all even – instead, more about wierd characters at the end. It’s like they’re trying to shove in soooo many Lost-style twists into the first 4 episodes.
Each episode involves something crazy happening, then the old guy Walter figuring it out with a throw-away line of dialogue in the next scene. Then the rest of the episode involves them searching for who did it or whatever.
Also, each episode’s case involves some crazy piece of equipment that Walter just so happens to have created and hidden somewhere or that company ‘Massive Dynamic’ having. And these random devices just so happen to work only in the circumstances presented in each episode.
That being said, it is very watchable and somewhat enjoyable. It’s not the best but I’m still going to continue watching.
Oh, but last episode showed off the worst voice-dubbing I’ve ever seen between Josh Jackson’s and Anna Torv’s characters. I should also point out that the dialogue is horrendous.
That’s cool Rob, let us know if it gets any better…
Whoaaa!
What happened to Heroes last night??
The show has totally gone ADD (attention deficit disorder) on us…
What I saw last night was just a mess.
At this point, I’m committing to Prison Break…
@Ergo Proxy
TMI = Too Much Information
I actually thought the ending for DS9 was pretty good; a lot better than Enterprise. The battle between the Dominion and the Federation had lots of sci-fi action, and the story arc between Sisko and Cassidy I felt was very good.
Mayweather was the black dude. I think he would make a perfect Black Panther. The writing became better because of Manny Coto. Of course, the series had already been damaged beyond repair. And that theme music, UUUUUUUUGGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!! (borrowing from Charley Brown)
Just saw another episode of Heroes…
It’s now officially laughable how the writers are pulling hairs just to come up with something and it’s clearly NOT WORKING…
Good grief… what are these people doing?
And that super lame company logo placement was just beyond dumb. The new Future Painter black guy was walking around with a UNIVERSAL Studios t-shirt… uughhh how lame,…
I guess it’s not just us who find the show to be a huge disappointment!
http://www.thrfeed.com/2008/10/monday-ratings.html
Thanks for that link Ergo,,,!
There’s a cool link there “Why Stephen King loves Prison Break”,,,,
I think the Family Guy, Manatees are writing Heroes this point. Lol.
Wait, wait… Manatees???
Wasn’t that an episode of South Park?
Or did Family Guy steal that idea too?
Yeah, if the producers of Heroes have a pair, they should rename the show “LOSERS”…
Maybe if it lives to see another season, we can all sign a petition to call the season for : LOSERS or Garbage… Pick one…
Yeah in the South Park Cartoon wars epic 3 parter.
Its reviled that Manatees write the show.
Season 11, I believe….
(Damn funny)
LOSERS, hahaha!!
I smell a South Park Episode !!!!
OMG. First there was Sylar who could steal powers, now there is an old guy who just happened to be the father of Peter Petrelli who can more or less do the same thing except he really steals them. And oh, lets make Sylar more or less a good guy now.
Have they lost the imagination to write good stuff ????
After watching the new episode last night I am still f…ing mad at the show. I understand they want to change good characters to evil and vice versa, but it is done the wrong way. Peter becoming evil, Claire wanting to be a renegade, Sylar turning good and Mohinder wanting power happened so quick, that you(the viewers) don’t believe. And not only the writers are using the same basic plots, but they are making it more confusing. Each episode has so many stories going at the same time, that is it impossible to keep track of all of them( hince the reason you have so many holes in the stories)You would think that Ali Larter’s ice character would care about her sister and her son since she wants to know what happened to her. And What he hell happened to copycat girl from new orleans. I don’t need to see her but at least let me know what happened to her. Man, I hate lose ends. And what the hell is wrong with Hiro? He’s always looking dumb whenever something happens. You would thing that he would grow some pair after leaving feudal Japan, but no, same dumb Hiro. Ando should have his power and he’s smarter. And how did that speed girl get into level 5 facility and past their security? I am just mad because the show could blow every other show out of the water, but the writers are killing it. They really need to bring some badass comic book writers, those guys know what people want to see and can develop superhero characters.
By the way where the hell is Elle? That’s the only character I cared about for the moment, since everybody on Heroes acts so dumb and stupid .
I can just hope that the writers know what they are doing with Heroes
(Sorry for the spelling errors in the previous post)
@thriller
“You would thing that he would grow some pair after leaving feudal Japan”
EXACTLY. I don’t recall the amount of time he was there, but it was quite a while, and the showed that he grew as a person and in maturity. Apparently that’s all gone and he’s back to “goofy Hiro.”
At least they DID explain why sometimes the “going back in time one minute” might not work.
Vic
thriller said,: “They really need to bring some badass comic book writers, those guys know what people want to see and can develop superhero characters.”
Fire the producer and bring this guy on board.. Been reading this rant since September, and the first time this has been suggested here, that I can find.
Hi !!!! I just hope that the screen director from heroes will take a look at this. I think that if he puts it on screen, that will help heroes !! hE SHOULD MAKE Daphne millbrook and Elle bishop be sisters. (bob bishop puts Daphne in an orphanege because he is scared of his daughter)Elle is born 2 years after, he keeps her because now he knows what are abilities, now that he is working for the company. Then Freddie Bishop is born (ability: meteorologique elements(tornados, storms ..+ electricity from his sister and superspeed).And finally, Nick bishop age 12, put into care because the agents at the company tell him to abandonne Nick
(ability:earthquaques)
That would be fantastic, im a huge fan !!
PLEASE DO IT, PLEASE !!!! With the special affects, they would be incredible ! Good luck !!
I thought Season 1 was amazing. Season 2 had a few good episodes but on the hole it was a rehash of season 1 but without the mystery and done in half the time. Season 3 is just wretched. There’s no continuity : what happened to Caitlin/Monica? Peter was missing presumed dead for the whole of series 2 but upon seeing him on the news, Claire just picks up her phone and calls him on his mobile. It took her a whole 11 episodes to think of that?
Characters swing from being bad to good and vice versa within minutes. Sylar/ Mohinder/Claire/Peter have all done u-turns on their characters but there is no progression detailing how they got there. Sylar is now Angela’s son so he is trying to be good. Peter got “The Hunger” (ugh) and is suddenly a psychopath. Mohinder is The Fly (a reference here and there would count as an homage to the Cronenberg movie, this is just an outright ripoff). If this was series 1, Peter’s descent into homicidal maniac would’ve taken 3 episodes at least. We got it in 10 minutes. It’s too fast. Plus “The Hunger” is just a massive backtrack of a retcon of a failed plot device. Sylar was just a puppet all along and he didn’t murder because of his obssession with being special?
Remember when Angela said Matt would be just like his father if he forced the name of that company woman out of her? What happened to him turning villain and abusing his ability? Instead we get a “spirit walk” in Africa with another precognitive painter.
The show seems to be about ability theft now. Sylar/Peter/Arthur all do this in some form or another. It’s just about who can get the most abilites. Having Arthur steal all of Peter’s powers was one of the biggest mistakes the writers ever made. Remember how stupid they had to make Peter look in order to carry on the storyline? Like how he had a gun pointed at him and a child whose life was at risk but he wouldn’t stop time and save him? That’s just one example. Arthur should be unstoppable now but I;m sure he’ll end up dead due to not using the most obvious ability at the right time. All this time travel BS has to end aswell.
@ Fadian,
I couldn’t have said it any better… yet there’s so much more that’s gone rotten in this show that, it’s amazing to see people who actually thinks this is as good as last season. Somehow those people just didn’t get the point of the first season or they’re just able to really pay attention to quality and will watch anything with eye candy.
Having said that I did in fact give up on Heroes, I did that after 5 episodes into season 3. I gave them a full season and 5 episodes to justify why I should keep watching after knowing that season 2 was one horrible mess that simply couldn’t get better even if they pumped it up with adrenalin.
Either way, we’re looking at a show that’s going to be talked about, referenced to and probably laughed at for years to come. The truth about Heroes and Tim Kring or whatever he’s called, will be on E faster than you can find an episode with substance in season 2-3 and 4 if they ever get that long.
Ultimately this show called HEROES, is nothing but LOOSERS and for me is one EPIC FAIL in the history of over confident PR on a show like this.
RIP Heroes.
Fadian,
Great post! This could have been a very dark year for heroes, with some closeups on how powers can be abused and the thirst for power can corrupt. The issue with Peter’s power-rape of Sylar was an example. Also excellent irony: Peter already displayed “hunger” when he ripped this out of Sylar. (And in the ensuing episodes, did he use this power to “fix” time? Wasn’t that the premise of snagging the ability of “knowing how things work”?)
The Peter-turned Sylar is something I imagined from season one, where I thought the twist was that Peter would absorb Sylar’s power (we did hear the “Sylar voice” out of him once or twice) and that it would in fact be Peter, not Sylar, who killed Isaac in Hiro’s future.
Too bad the Dark Peter lasted shorter this year than it did in season 2. I’m assuming his “hunger” is gone into his dad. But because the road to obtain these powers again would be long, I’m sure that Kring’s favorite plot device–the Reset Button–will be called into play and Peter will be just as we knew him, minus The Hunger.
>>Remember when Angela said Matt would be just like his father if he forced the name of that company woman out of her? What happened to him turning villain and abusing his ability?<<
I agree, Fadian. This too would have been a great natural Hero-to-Villian change, but I think Kring is playing to the High School Musical fanbase that doesn’t want anything “really” bad to happen to anyone. Don’t “really” change Peter, don’t “really” change Mohinder. Don’t “really” kill Nikki.
Thanks Ergo Proxy, jc. I’ve seen up to episode 7 and it looks like it’s going to continue screwing up the series. The way it’s going now it seems like they HAVE pumped it full of adrenaline. It’s gone hyper. It’s out of control. There’s just too much happening in each episode. In series 1 you would get a cliffhanger at the end of each episode; series 3 you’re getting cliffhangers every 15 minutes, new characters appearing and being killed off or ‘dealt’ with in the space of a single episode and regular trips to the future to see an event or timeline that has to be stopped. It’s like the show developed ADD and took a sugar overdose at Disneyland.
I really wonder what people saw in the first series that they think they are now seeing in series 3.
“This could have been a very dark year for heroes, with some closeups on how powers can be abused and the thirst for power can corrupt.”
Agreed. Instead they gave us characters doing 180’s on themselves with no hesitation and constant whining about being indestructible and superpowered. Peter and Sylar should’ve slowly changed over the series, perhaps with the two of them facing off at the end, Peter turning villain and Sylar trying to stop him. A reversal of series 1.
As it happens, Kring just needed Peter to lose his powers and the only way he could think of doing that, presumably, was by giving him Sylar’s so he would run headlong into Pinehearst and get vamp’d by his dad. Similarly the only way he could think of making Sylar turn good was by making his murderous tendencies a part of his ability that he could not control. Which is just a cop out, in my opinion.
The show now seems to favour the people with the more flashy abilities. The ones that look good in action sequences. Micah had a really interesting ability which could’ve been used in some great storylines. Monica aswell. But the writers want people that can fly at light speed and shoot lasers out of their eyes. It’s all “INCREDIBLE POWER!!!” and “UNIMAGINABLE DESTRUCTION!!!” as HRG said.
The action is much more exciting when there is something to lose and the main characters in series 3 are just too powerful.
“I think Kring is playing to the High School Musical fanbase that doesn’t want anything “really” bad to happen to anyone. Don’t “really” change Peter, don’t “really” change Mohinder. Don’t “really” kill Nikki.”
Again, I agree, unfortunately. Who honestly thought for a second that Hiro had killed Ando? Was Matt really stupid enough to not use his mind controlling ability on Knox and let him tear out his heart?
Don’t “really” kill anyone. Don’t “really” do something unexpected. Don’t “really” think up an original storyline. Don’t “really” write an interesting script.
Cheers
I am looking forward to fourth season.
Sorry guys, but i’m very dissapointed with season 3. Hope
season 4 will be back with a vengeance!
I was watching first two seasons breathlessly. I haven’t seen something so interesting for a while. I couldn’t wait for a next episode. But when the third season started I was so disappointing. I couldn’t believe that they can make such a big turn to worse. Pity.
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