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Hirogen says:

Damn, And I was just saying to the misses that we should break out the Alien and Predator Movies, then AVP, then go check this out at the movies. While I value your opinion greatly, and generally agree with you on most things Vic…I think I’m going to have to go check it out anyways. Who knows, maybe now that I expect it to be a steaming pile, I might be able to overlook how terrible it is?

Hirogen,

Who knows? Maybe you won’t mind it. Maybe you can look at it like a really bad B-movie and laugh at it. From what I’ve been reading it seems SOME people like it… although I certainly don’t understand how.

Vic

Jazi says:

Vic,
this is my first time reading one of your reviews. And i cannot agree more.

This movie did suck. Really bad. I mean the whole Predator thing. There was 2 predators throughout the whole movie and one died. apparently, this “hero” predator wanted to take a Predator/Alien [alien] and the rest ofthe aliens all to himself. And never called for backup? wtf?
this movie was terrible. There was waayyyy to many human contact. I was expecting a WW3 between Alien And Predator. That wasnt it at all. Dont be deceived. Though the effects were more than awsome. I wonder to myself. Has the Directors seen the Predator and Alien movies? They obviously had no idea what kind of expectations they were required to live up to. Sad day.

Mike says:

I liked it. Maybe I’m just a fool. I enjoyed it as a fan of pred/alien films. I thought it was better than that poor excuse of a first.

steve adams says:

Hirogen don’t waste your time and money.
Jazi. Welcome to the Rant!!!!
^
Vic your review was dead on. The film sickend me in ways that made the first film film look like a Oscar winner.
^
Especally the hospital scenes. Very vile indeed.
^
I would expect a alien/Predator would have been more keen to the hunt then to just reproduce itself in a hurry out of survival.
^
They missed that point and also it seemed like the whole film was a
complete bad lift of all the past films…
We have the acid-blood scene, the stupid army scene, the aliens getting killed and there screeming scenes, the swiming alien,the cool optics of the pred headgear (same ol same ol),the aliens face thru a hosptial blind right up to the face of a human female like so many other past ideas this film has no originality at all.
^
Who ever wrote, produced, edited, and greenlit this script sould be fired.
^
I feel bad for the actress that was in 24 being attached to this…..:(

Jazi says:

and another thing.

the catch line of the movie is “this christmas there will be no peace on earth”
are you kidding me?

All this “action” that happens is based in a little POS town in Colorado.
Which promplty gets … well never mind.
But the invasion does not go outside the state lines of colorado.
So the awsome artwork for the movie poster. Is highly decieving.

Jazi says:

Haha thanks Steve.
Just wasted my money on it today!

steve adams says:

I liked all the scenes with the Predator. The rest they can burn …
^
It reminded me of a bad version of “Planet Terror meets I know what you did last summer 3″.
^

steve adams says:

Right with ya there Jazi, I spent 8.50 on a matinee screening.
^
I’ll admit the film had at least 8 minutes of great stuff.
So that’s a buck per minute say,, overall at least we can warn the others!!!!!! :)

steve adams says:

When I walked out of the theatre I felt like a facehugger was sucking the other end of me… In a bad way…

Violated,

Vic says:

Jazi, welcome… I hope you stick around. I think the Requiem part had to do with the first 20 seconds of the movie with the dead Predator and that’s it. Great basis for the title of the movie, eh? :-)

Hey Mike, different strokes for different folks, I suppose. I know there are other folks that like it… maybe if I was 16 again it might work for me.

But much like how I compare the many crappy adventure movies that stink to “Raiders of the Lost Ark” I compare these to the original “Alien” and “Predator” and they’re not even remotely close.

Best,

Vic

Surma says:

God, I was gonna go see this tomorrow, thanks Vic.

Sounds like they could have done something different and daring (not to mention more interesting) if they’d kept the action on board the Predator ship, doing a scenario-revisit of the original Alien movie, with Predators taking the place of humans.

A talented director could have pulled that off, I think. But it sounds like these brothers Strauss are too green for that task at best.

I always wonder how guys whose only experience is in visual effects get handed the wheels to not only one franchise, but a film that combines two well known and established franchises – letting them run it to it’s final resting place.

When time finally wears down the stain of this installation from memory, maybe if one of the original directors is still alive, they’ll do us the favor of a Batman-style reboot, and remind us what was so good about those franchises in the first place. (I’m hoping this happens for the Aliens franchise more than the Predator one – just my own personal bias showing).

PG says:

0.5 out of 5! LOL! That’s bad. Really bad. I actually watched the first AVP on FX earlier tonight and was reminded of how horrible it was. The whole time I was thinking how the sequel should be way better, especially hearing how dedicated the new directors were to this project. I can say I trust your judgment and most of the other readers who have posted comments already. Thanks for the heads up.

Adrian says:

Depressing…:( What a waste.

Vic says:

“I always wonder how guys whose only experience is in visual effects get handed the wheels to not only one franchise”

Tell me about it. Working on the set of a movie doesn’t qualify one to direct. Maybe we’ll see some “Grips” or “Best Boys” direct the next one.

Vic

ZAR says:

As always, dead on!

Well, I was afraid that it would turn out this way. Why?

First of all: strong, greedy producers and week, willing directors never get a good movie together. A good story needs some creative freedom in the writing/filming department and the suits only see the $$$ and want as much idiots as audience as possible. Consequence? “No big ideas here, Strauss brothers just stay in the sandbox!”

Next we have the sequel problem. Whereas Paramount ruined Star Trek by repeating the same stories/themes over and over AND ignoring continuity (which pissed off even the strongest fans), the script writers of AVP 2 ignored any other good story previosly imagined by comics, novels, video games and fan fiction. Hell, yeah, it costs ROYALTIES if you adapt another one’s story for the big screen. So instead of purchasing the story – or even offer the guy the opportunity to write a script himself – they rather hire “Mr. Cheap” to concoct something. Because the whole franchise is based on a video game anyway, they think. Yep, and that’s exactly why this one has GAME OVER painted all over it!

In the end it’s all about power and control over at Fox. The suits wanted the film EXACTLY as dumb as it is now. No creative dude from UK or France to mess with the audience they think, but some eye candy for christmas that will milk the fancow a little more.

And the best thing: if the movie fails, they will release a “director’s cut” on dvd/BluRay – OR even better BLAME it on the filesharers! (Remember Eli Roth and HOSTEL 2? He really blamed the downloaders for the failure! You know, Eli, you and your movie stink. Plain and simple.)

My advice to the fans? Hope for some decent fan fiction in the future (Batman: Dead End and Star Trek New Voyages already go in that (right) direction).

ZAR.

KEL says:

LOL,Vic! Steve Adams sent me his review,he said basically the same thing. I’ll wait for the DVD release of this one…………maybe. ;-)

Zcole says:

Not to be combative, ZAR, but it doesn’t make any sense to expect profressional (albeit crappy) writers and directors to use fan fiction as a basis for their work. If Hollywood types ever used such material as a basis for, say, a screenplay, they would be sued and stripped of every cent they own.

steve adams says:

I agree with Zar on Eli roths “work” his work is crap and I think the same for him…:)
Anyway…..
Zcole, producers rip off fan material as much as they can.
The fan/writer/creator only stands a chance of winning anything if the project is successfull.
I think what Zar and a few others are talking about is that there’s so much BETTER material out there to make into a good story, yet these “filmakers” mostly choose the crap scripts.

Fox owns both these characters, they don’t intentionally make films targeted to stupid film goers. They unintentionally place these films in the hands of stupid producers.
^
Fox picked the wrong team, plain and simple, even the credits looked like they were done by a 15 year old.
^
This script was picked prob over 15 other ideas, but these idiots said “hey that’s a good way to go”, they blew it. They are prob being fired as we speak.
^
Aliens Vs Predator wasn’t based on a video game, it was based on a Comic book series produced by I want to say “Dark Horse” but check that*
Ever since the comic came out Fox has tried to bring these 2 icons of Sci-fi together….
It took a few years to secure all the rights. (Years)..!
^
The first AvP film I thought was good, I know everyone seems to hate it but I liked the way the Predator worked alongside the human toward the end because she could kick ass and the Predator respected her. That kind of storyline was more inline with the comic version.
^
In the Comic story the Predators (on occasion) did team up with Humans to eradicate the aliens.
This is somewhat the direction this franchise should be headed but this latest blunder turns the frachise into a cheap sh*#y half-ass horror mess that’s unforgivable….:(
^
The Producers of this “mess” complety set this franchise back years if not permanantly.
Piss’es. me off because this could have been a great
franchise now its been destroyed.
^
I stayed all the way to the end waiting for just a little redemtion and all I got was the same old ending. You know the one. And like Vic noted by then you didn’t give a crap if the whole town was gone because the characters were meaningless.
^
KEL don’t even bother renting this thing its such a poc.
Man I’m so ready for some quality sci-fi !!!!!!!!!!!
I guess it time to watch my BG Razor dvd. Hmmm

nando vee says:

while i havnt yet seen this film. i feel people should stop hoping these fims will be the next “aliens” or “predator2 films. those films were classic and will most probably not be bettered by any modern day version.

they should be taken as eye candy and/or a no thrills switch of your brain gorefest. most people who savage these films. are not fans of the genre / charecters and so dont trully understand what the true essence of avp is. sure the storys crap. the acting is ham. so what. we want to see two of our fave movie beasties scrapping on screen. thats it.

i read one review even question how the pred alien came about and said that ” it wasnt properly explained” helloooooooooooo have you seen the first movie you retard.

im so annoyed at snooty reviewers with their long fancy words which describe films they would never see in the first place. i thought reviewrs were meant to be impartial and unbiased. yet every review i read is tainted with the words of someone who clearly has no interest or love for the genre. take a work of advice.

Nando,

First of all: I do not allow profanity on this site. You should be able to express your opinion without a rude use of the F-bomb (you’re actually lucky I didn’t delete your comment due to your closing two words).

To address the main points of your comments:

“while i havnt yet seen this film.”

Well. That invalidates all your arguments right there. If you haven’t seen it you have no basis for slamming anyone’s review.

“i feel people should stop hoping these fims will be the next ‘aliens’ or ‘predator2′ films. those films were classic and will most probably not be bettered by any modern day version.”

Exactly right. So if they can’t at least match the quality of those it’s a blatant attempt to rip us off for our money by sucking us into the theater based on the quality of THOSE movies.

“they should be taken as eye candy and/or a no thrills switch of your brain gorefest.”

B.S. If they just want to do a “gorefest” or “eye candy”, then create something original instead.

“most people who savage these films. are not fans of the genre / charecters and so dont trully understand what the true essence of avp”

Again: B.S. I personally “savaged” this film precisely BECAUSE I am such a fan of the genre, characters and original films.

“im so annoyed at snooty reviewers with their long fancy words”

I do not consider myself a “snooty reviewer.” As a matter of fact I try to write reviews that the average person can use to decide whether or not to see a movie.

“every review i read is tainted with the words of someone who clearly has no interest or love for the genre.”

Again, I find it hysterical that you’ve posted that comment on THIS website. Have you even bothered to read Screen Rant??? Yeesh.

Vic

KEL says:

Just cuz someone uses long words doesn’t mean they’re snooty,it usually means they’re smart (duh!). You can’t bash someone for being “snooty” just cuz you can’t comprehend the words they use.

KEL says:

Uh oh. I have a feeling I just made a mistake of some sort…………….:-0

Hirogen says:

Yep KEL, I suggest taking cover in preparation for the retaliatory action that is no doubt coming your way. I still haven’t gone to see the movie myself…I mean, I know Vic is going to be right, and the film will be terrible…but I just can’t look away! So far I’m using the excuse that the Girlfriend has seen none of the original movies, or the first AVP movie yet…and yes, yes I know, it isn’t really necessary to see all that first but shoosh! It’s keeping me from seeing this :P

steve adams says:

Hey nando, go see the film its awesome!!!
^
Wait in line even….its that good.
^
Hey KEL!

KEL says:

LOL,Hirogen!! You’re probably right……..;-)

I see ya,Steve! :-D

steve adams says:

Wow Hirogen, you have guts to take a girlfriend to this one.
^
Might want to check the surrounding theatres and see what time they come on so if you have to, you can walk out of Avp and sneak into another film midway thru.
^
I would expect that to be right around the scenes where the Pred-alien is killing a whole bunch of pregnant women.”Tastefully” of course, (gross pun intended).

wow. i’m only 16 and this movie seemes like the biggest piece of crapt i’ve ever seen. I’m going to be a film director someday and I know i can make a movie way better than this pile dung I paid $9 to see. The catch line was “there will be no peace on earth”, that had nothing to do with the film, the whole thing took place in that little hick ass town. Me and my friend have better scripts than this, i was actually kind of skeptical about our scripts at first but after seeing what felt like a knife in my eye, I feel that my scripts will be a masterpiece. The only good thing that came out of this movie is the confidence to make a movie that will either scare the crap out of people or blow them away.

steve adams says:

Best to you Adrian!
^
I look forward to the young talent out there to someday save us from this “fun in the sun” garbage.
^

Donneperth says:

Hey, Adrian,
you have restored my faith in the future of movies! Keep up the good work! Certainly a 16 year old can do better than the schlock that is being served up today on multi million budgets. There are so many talented si- fi writers today. All apparently ignored when it comes to creating a movie script.
I took my son and 13 year old daughter to see this last night. She laughed all the way through it. Thought it was a great comedy.
(We also had to sit through 30 minutes of mainly adverts and trailers before the movie!!!. Curse you Hoyts!!!)
I found the hospital scenes quite vile and totally irrelevant to the ‘plot’. Trying to ‘outdo’ Saw and Hostel perhaps??
Everyone seems to pan the first movie. For what it was I quite liked it, (with reservations), certainly found it better than this sequel. Does ‘Requiem’ in this title signify the death of the franchaise?

Kent says:

I couldn’t dissagree more with you. In my opinion AVP-R was a vast imrovment upon the previous movie. To your question of how the Predalien could take down the Predator ship single-handedly, it was OBVIOUS that the Predalien was much stronger, larger and more intellegent then the other aliens, and, if you couple that with the fact that the predators were caught with their proverbial pants down AND that it was in their ship (imagine a feral grizzly in the shace shuttle; the things gonna go down) then it’s easy to see how things went so horribly wrong for the predators aboard said spaceship.
You ARE right about how they should’ve thought’ve the possibility that he was carrying a chestburster before picking him up though. I dunno. Maybe they were stoned.
The hospital scenes did make me cringe, but that was the point. It’s a sci-fi/HORROR movie. You should see some of the other horror movies as of late.
They make AVP-R look like “Gumby’s Christmas Specail” by comparison.
But we’re cool right? ._.

steve adams says:

Kent knowhere on this post has anyone stated how a predalien could take down a predator ship..

Read the posts I challenge you to tell me where you find that…
^
The biggest problem with this film in relation to Alien cannon was the way the Predalien reproduced 20 predators in a matter of hours.
^
The film coulda been better….

Vic says:

Kent,

We’re totally cool as long as you continue to express your opinions in an intelligent and polite manner. I have no problem with people who disagree with me and encourage discussion and debate here on Screen Rant as long as it doesn’t devolve into emotional name-calling.

You DID make a good point about the fact that the Alien was part Predator contributing to how it could have made it easier for it to take down the other Predators. :-)

Best regards,

Vic

thanks donneperth and steve adams, it feels good to know that i got some support. I really want to make movies one day and know i could do it if i work hard and really put my mind to it. here are some movies i would like to make:
- the darkness (based off the comic)
- twisted christmas
- spore (horror movie)
- spawn (based on the comic) one film i would love to do the most because its my favorite comic.
- a dragon movie based in modern times
- the roar of war, and action packed trilogy
- the waliking dead (also a comic)
- daywalkers (a group of people who hunt vampires and werewolves)
and maybe a monster movie or an alien invasion movie, what ever one that captures my intrest the most, or maybe both, who knows? it seems like a bit much, but i know i can do it.

steve adams says:

Good concepts except for the modern day dragon film. Didn’t they allready make that film. I can’t remeber the title. I know Alice Krige is in it….
^
Here’s a concept for you Adrian,
I would love to see a WaterWorld type film right after the flooding due to global warming.
It would have more islands and city buildings sticking up out of the water then Waterworld did. And more mutetated sea life I’m typing giant whales and sharks.
There could be fleets of miltary aircraft carrers that rule the world the possiblities are endless. :)

the yapper says:

This movie really sucked ass. I saw it Xmas day and almost pulled my hair out it was so bad. I was a huge fan of the Aliens franchise and this movie was crap. I could not see anything during the fight scenes and felt bad for Reiko (24) and the guy from Rescue Me who were stuck in this clunker.

steve adams says:

Yeah Yapper I totally agree…..!

John Taylor says:

Drat, guys! Now I don’t know what to do. I really wanted to see this film but now, I’m not soo sure I want to waste money on it. Rotten tomatoes gave it %15, which means some critics thought it was worth seeing, but you guys are real people. Maybe I should just wait for Cloverfield.

steve adams says:

John there was about 5 min in there that I liked.
(Scene with the predator homeworld.
Other than that the Cloverfield TRAILER’s are more fun to watch. :)

the yapper says:

Trust me, you will go in wating to love the movie, but leave dissapointed. Watch the Last AVP much better (and thats not saying much)

John Taylor says:

OK, I had some time to kill this past Saturday while my wife was in class. I decided to see this movie mainly because there wasn’t anything else out that I wanted to see. I got some popcorn, a diet coke and some peanut M&Ms; the popcorn was more satisfying that this garbage of a movie. I know, I should have listened to you all but my father told me I’m bullheaded, so there :o )

I still don’t know exactly how the predalien looks. I got glimpses of it from time to time but no full body shot. About the scene in the maternity ward? I couldn’t even tell you because I fell asleep before they got there. The movie was boring, predictable, and badly shot. There were only 2 people I recongnized in the movie; the guy who had the weapon in the briefcase and Ms. Utani. I have no clue who the rest of those actors were.

steve adams says:

Sorry John we tried to warn ya!!
^
The predalien looked like a walking cockroach.

I’m not trying to “brainwash” anyone. I just try to help people avoid crappy movies and discourage studios from putting out said crappy movies.

If this movie was actually GOOD, word of mouth would have cancelled out bad reviews and it would have made a ton of money.

But it hasn’t – it’s been out almost 4 weeks and has only now broken $40MM in the U.S. That tells me that most people think it stinks.

But hey, everyone is entitled to their opinion. :-)

Vic

steve adams says:

Avp is the perfect film for you Saad.
^

GRAHAM says:

DON’T LISTEN TO ALL THESE CRAP REVIEWS OF AVP-R FOLKS, I JUST SAW IT TODAY AND THOUGHT IT WAS GREAT FUN HORROR-SI-FI!!!
IT’S FUN!! GREAT ACTION AND EFFECTS AND THE ACTING IS OK!
IT AIN’T SHAKESPEAR IT’S JUST T GREAT MOVIE MONSTERS HAVIN’ A BATTLE!!
C’MON YOU HEAVY PEOPLE OUT THERE, LIGHTEN UP!!
I GIVE IT 3 STARS OUT OF FIVE!!!

steve adams says:

Hey Graham your a little late. The “film” is allmost out of all the theatres… :(

steve adams says:

If my Fruit of the Looms, could audibly form sentences or type on a keyboard,,, uh huh,,that’s right.

it would first say, “Solient Green is People” and then it would say “AvP requim sucks, its really bad, it stinks! don’t go”…….!!!!!!!

Fruit from the Loom don’t lie,…kile.

GRAHAM says:

I’M IN SCOTLAND AND THE MOVIE JUST CAME OUT HERE!!!
I READ THE REVIEWS HERE BEFORE GOING AND WAS EXPECTING THE WORST BUT WAS PLEASED TO ENJOY A NOT TOO BAD MOVIE!!
I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE MAKE THERE MINDS UP IN ADVANCED BEFORE GOING TO SEE MOVIES.
I LOVED THE FIRST PRED MOVIE WITH BIG ARNIE AND I LOVED ALIEN AND WITHOUT ARNIE AND WEAVER IN THESE NEW MOVIES TO GIVE IT THAT REAL TOUCH OF CLASS THEN WE GOT TO JUST ENJOY THESE FANTASY FUN FILMS
I REST MY CASE!!

Graham,

I guess everyone has their own taste in movies, but if you look through the articles I wrote leading up to the release of this film you’ll see that I was actually getting quite optimistic about it.

Of course watching the film changed all that.

Best regards,

Vic

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