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No, a small thing does not. However the abuse in this thread has been cumulative and patience has worn thin.

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Bryan says:

Both the AVP movies were good. Everyone knows the Predator would win hands down.

Ryan says:

There was something Aliens (2) had that every other Alien/AvP movie lacked. I can’t seem to put my finger on it, but I think it had something to do with the valor of several of the actors in Aliens (2), where the rest of the movies have either a single hero or several frightened people and a predator. Aliens (2) showed changing major protagonist leadership roles between Ripley, Bishop, and several of the Marines, where the other movies centered such leadership on Ripley or the Predator. I am not sure if the predator in AvP2 could be considered either an antagonist or protagonist but there was no clear leadership among the human actors in the protagonist role in AvP-R.

The betrayal aspect in the first two Alien movies was far more personal than the betrayal in Alien 3, AvP-R, and did not appear to exist in AvP and Alien 4. Not that it is necessary, but it helps to be internal betrayal rather than external. (one of the main characters instead of an unknown Colonel or company)

I think the AvP concept is good, but there is not enough background for the predator and the void is filled with plotless human characters leaving both without sufficient influence to achieve a meaningful part. There needs to be sufficient scenes to introduce the viewer to the protagonist or there is no connection with the plot.

The maternity ward scene truly was a work of art for horror. I can not think of a more emotion clutching scene, this portion of the movie was perfectly written to inspire hate for the alien. I believe this is the single best written horror clip I have ever seen. It practically included pregnant woman rape in with baby mutilation, fetus mutilation, and plain old people mutilation. I don’t think it could get any worse.

AvP-R also lacked the fear leading up to the appearance of an alien. Previous movies allow anticipation of the alien appearance; here we saw the camera quickly move to a number of alien scenes until the alien became repetitious and boring. The Predator was obviously tough, but his weaponry was inadequate and there was too much hand to hand fighting between the predator and the aliens to make the alien appear scary any more. They were simply too easy to kill with the predator’s bare hands to make them seem scary. It could have been balanced by introducing more soldiers and a battle scene that was more than a radio transmission and a few seconds of muzzle flashes. The movie should have encompassed three days instead of a single day. The fear of sleep is part of the horror this movie lacked.

I am glad that the authors did not fire up a joint at the end of this one like in Alien3 and 4. Those two really killed the brand equity of the Alien title. This one was well written for a realistic approach to the classic Alien theme, but truly lacked proper plot development. Most importantly, this is supposed to be a SciFi flick. Why was this not based on a future earth? Better yet, why not show a clip of aliens on the Preadator home world taking over? That would explain why Predators are not seen in the earlier Alien movies…

Ryan says:

As for the gestation rate issue:
This movie included a hybrid predator/alien that was not required to lay a large egg that would produced an parasitic alien, which would in turn use a human to incubate an alien fetus. This alien had the ability to implant aliens directly into humans without the parasitic gestation. If it were implanting a viable alien fetus, the growth rate of the alien would conform to the growth rate in the original Alien movie (the time after the parasite released). The new method would lend question to why the hybrid alien’s offspring were identical to the original aliens and did not have any traits of the hybrid alien. That is the true question…

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