Chinese Propaganda On the Set of ‘Red Dawn’

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If you aren’t aware, one of the most iconic films of the 80′s is being remade. That doesn’t really narrow it down for you, does it? OK, it was one of the most iconic films of the 80′s AND starred the late great Patrick Swayze. Got it now? Well we are down to two, so it’s either Dirty Dancing or Red Dawn. This original starred both Swayze and Jennifer Grey; dagumit! They were in both of those films; OK fine Red Dawn! I’m talking about Red Dawn people!

Last week we brought you some behind the scenes pictures of what appeared to be a Chinese plane after if crashed through a house on the set of Red Dawn. Now, thanks to the guys over at Red Dawn 2010, we have a first look at some propaganda being distributed by the invading enemy forces. I’ve included three of the more interesting pictures and you can go here for the rest of the collection.*WARNING THESE COULD BE CONSIDERED TO BE MINOR SPOILERS*

The first picture depicts China’s attempt to censor big media and the internet while putting down our leaders (current and past). The second is their attempt to brainwash us into thinking the invading army is here to help us because we are too blinded to see the truth on our own – They Are Here to Help. The last is the most chilling to me: it shows how the invaders are being accepted – how some Americans (in the movie) have rolled over and are now “helping” the transition by working in these “Friendship Centers”.

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I’ll be honest; my excitement for this remake was about 50% but for some reason these pictures give us a good insight to the script and the direction the writers are going to take. I’d say my excitement level has jumped to 75%. I like what they are doing here. In the 80′s, the cold war was dominate in world culture so it made perfect sense to have the Russians invading.  With the fall of the Russian empire, that threat no longer exists. And, even though I was sure writers Carls Ellesworth (Disturbia) and Jeremy Passmore would go the extremist Islamic terrorist angle, it would appear they thought this through and choose a country that could actually have a theoretical chance of occupying U.S. soil.

If an invasion of this type were to actually happen, this is how I would see it happening – by starting in the mid-west rural areas hit hardest by the recession, trying to win the hearts of disenfranchised citizens with propaganda. Now, before I get slammed as an Anti-American, we are talking about A FICTIONAL MOVIE! I am merely addressing the story arc in which director Dan Bradley is working. I am by no means expressing my own political views on a movie blog; I am not Michael Moore!

Ellesworth and Passmore have set this new Red Dawn to the tune of today’s hot political times, and just like the 80′s original, it has sent a chill up my spine. Let’s hope the acting and action is done in such a way that it enhances that story.

SIDE NOTE: I don’t want this post thread to turn into a CNN vs Fox News political debate, so let’s all just remember this is a movie and keep the comments cordial. OR ELSE. icon smile Chinese Propaganda On the Set of Red Dawn

Red Dawn stars Jeffery Dean Morgan, Chris Hemsworth, Josh Hutcherson and Isabel Lucas.

What do you think about the pictures and the current direction of the movie’s story?

Red Dawn will invade your town a year from now, September 24th, 2010. Be ready (Wolverines!)

Source: Red Dawn 2010

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  1. @Vic

    Well, when a film’s story hits close to home and pushes your buttons, it’s going to get a reaction. My comments were not meant to be politically condescending in any way. I’m here to discuss movies just like everyone else, and tried to keep the previous comments as so. I was not trying to bring some Leftist angle with my comments; it’s not like I was going on an anti-America rant. If this Red Dawn remake was backed by some European studio, my feelings would still be the same. But your point is taken, I’ll just have to agree to disagree.

    @Paul

    Point taken as well. I’ll also respectfully agree to disagree.

  2. GIVE EM HELL VIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Seems Communism is the new Black anyway. We have Hitler-North Korean Youth-esque (Lili Rithenstall) brainwahhing of young children in our classrooms (MMM MMM MMM!!) Yet (even though I am agnostic) if one of the kids wanted to say a prayer there would be an army of Athiest ACLU lawyers in the Dean’s office. We have the white house sending ourt spam propganda and special offices in the white house keeping tabs on people who own firearms. We have a president who bought 2 car companies and gave them (literally) to the Socialist People’s Party Unions who helped elect him. Congress is trying to ramrod this healthcare Socialit welfare through as a form of reparations for mostly minority and poor whites who vote Democrat (despite the fact that near 70% of the country is against this plan{ a plan which Obama and congress can not even explain what it is exactly and how it will be paid for}) We have a president who had a father-son type relationship with Bill Ayers a living breathing Commie, anarchist, terrorist, whom creeated Obama as a politician in Chicago.

    We have a government sponcering it’s own brownshirts in the whole Acorn thing, spending bilions of dollars.

    We are being dragged (though many seem to be skipping gleefully on their own) toward a Liberal, fascist, progressive, Socialism.

    If any of you have not seen Reds. You should. History is always repeating itself in one fashion or another. Red’s is eerie in how similar the film is playing out with todays events

  3. VERY NICELY PUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  4. @PG

    I’m Chinese, I have no problem with them being Chinese… The name of the movie is RED Dawn, which means Communist. So right now, the only options are Cubans (without Russian backing this time) or the Chinese…

    So… would you rather it be Cubans? What’s the problem? If they made it the N Koreans, wouldn’t that offend Korean-Americans? If they made it Middle Easterners, wouldn’t that offend Middle-Eastern-Americans???

    @790

    Isn’t it being written by the writers of Michael Clayton and directed by the 2nd unit director to Lions for Lambs? That’s why I’m worried about the people behind the movie.

    @Lord Garth, I would support what you said, but don’t want to egg you on, lol, just kidding, well put. I’m also agnostic but am 100% against this whole anti-religion BS that’s going on now. We have FREEDOM OF RELIGION, which means freedom to believe or not believe, I LOVE how they think that means Freedom FROM Religion…

    And I can’t believe there were members of Congress that wanted to keep funding ACORN… WTF??? I guess underaged prostitution is ok but law-abiding citizens owning firearms isn’t… Retards…

  5. @PG

    To further my point, even though I wasn’t born here, I’m AMERICAN first, my heritage is Chinese. There’s a reason why my family escaped China for the USA, it’s because we don’t support their government. So if the Chinese do invade the USA, hell yah I will join the US military (hopefully they don’t imprison me in fear that I’m a double-agent, lol) and shoot me some Chinese people, because it’s not their race I’ll be fighting, it’s who and what they stand for that I’m trying to get out of my country (USA). So I won’t have sympathy for them just because we are the same race, they support their government, I don’t, so if they invade us and try to force us into their ways, damn right I’ll kill as many of them as it takes…

    Of course I’m not anti-Chinese, I WISH their government will fall and be replaced with a government like ours to free my people, hell yes, that would be a dream come true. Well, not like our CURRENT government, lol, too much like theirs now… :-D

  6. @Ken J & 790

    A friend of mine who has read the script said that based on that it will NOT be the typical US bashing sort of story. In fact he said that typical Hollywood folks will be VERY annoyed by this movie.

    I hope he’s right. 8)

    Vic

  7. Ah I see what you mean Ken. Vic says it may be good so all prob see it. also want to see how this plays out,,,

    Interesting timing on this film as it will show American citizens defending America from those that would attack its freedoms.

    Read between the lines on that one gang. ;-)

  8. Ah, alright, thanks for that Vic, give me one more movie to look forward to, thanks.

    If this is true, then here’s to Red Dawn and the V remake, lol.

  9. MM MM MM Barack Hussain Obama
    MM MM MM
    Der Vaderland
    MM MM MM

    It’s always the self identified Progressives who have brought anarchy, athiesim and revolution. The shocking thing that those currently in power have been all but telling you this all along and with a little help from a star struck, middle america hating media, and a whole lot of short attention span syndrome on the part of the american public, we have our very own Red Dawn happening right here.We are admist a silent Socialist, Progressive, Liberal revolution. One of the other tells of this that happened in Russia, Germany, Spain, and on and on and on is the blatant rise of anti-semitism. Did anyone here the Israel bashing coming from the mouth of Obama this past week????? I am not a Jew, but I have grown up around Jewish communites, I have had a Jewish girlfriend. If I were a Jew my alarm bells would be ringing quite loudly right about now.

    I am sure Vic has seen Reds. I hope you all do the same. History always repeats itself.

  10. Garth, we need to stop bashing each other for name calling and look at the bigger picture.

    Big media devides, and is steering us toward the nwo you speak of…

    And whatever you do (everyone) don’t take the swine flu vaccine. :-)

  11. Wow. How this ever turned into a political debate is beyond me.

    @Ken J

    I would’ve sworn you were a White American until you said you were Chinese. Then again, from the way you’re coming off and with your comments, I still think you’re probably White American. I am also Chinese and will respectfully disagree with your rant. If you want to embrace your “American” side more than your Chinese, so be it. But the comments you made sounded quite troubling on many different levels IMO. And this has nothing to do with the U.S. or being American.

  12. its funny once everyone sees the word Communist or Reds everyone freaks out

  13. @PG

    I’m American because I live in the USA, I reep all of the benefits of being an American citizen such as being able to vote for my leaders, even when the person I vote for loses, I get that chance, I get to own firearms for hobby and for self-protection instead of having to rely only on cops to magically get to me on time to protect me when something happens, I get freedom of speech, even if that speech is against my government. Try that in China. If you don’t embrace yourself as an American (presuming you live in the USA) then why don’t you move back to China? Just like anyone who moves here and takes advantage of all of the things the country gives them, then they say their home country is so much better, if you love it so much, go back, nobody’s forcing you to live in this horrible horrible place…

    I love how you say I “sound” white. Why, because I actually appreciate all that has been given me by this country? Because I’m PROUD to be a citizen of this great country? You have to be white to have these qualities? Hey, if China’s government was better, I’d be happy to move there and be proud to be a citizen of China.

    So no, I’m not a White American, I’m not a Black American, I’m not a Hispanic America, I’m not even an Asian American, I’m an American, just American, that happens to be of Chinese ancestry. I wasn’t born here, but have been living here long enough to appreciate how much better it is here than where my family and I came from.

    And I don’t take anything back, if any country invades USA and threatens the way of life for anyone here and myself, even if those invaders are Chinese, I’ll fight for the USA. I wouldn’t be fighting against the Chinese race, I would be fighting against China’s government. I WISH the Chinese people (my people by ancestry) would convert and not be our enemy, but the fact is, if they’re invading the USA, they intend to kill anyone who resists. They don’t belong here in that capacity, I am completely willing to fight and kill them if I had to.

    You say my comments are troubling, but assuming you live in the USA, if you feel differently, then I find THAT troubling, that you would go to a country, take advantage of everything they have to offer, then be able to betray them in a heartbeat over your RACE, I think it might be dangerous to have people like you in our country. You would probably act as a double agent… How troubling is that??

    Think about it this way, let’s say you were born a white child, but at a young age, your parents abandon you and you had no other relatives to take you in, so you end up being adopted by a black couple that lovingly raises you, buys you toys when you’re good or got good grades, then you get noticed by a talent scout and becomes a huge child star worth hundreds of millions. Then your original parents see that you became rich, so all of a sudden they come out of the woodwork and start challenging your adopted parents for custody of you (and subsequently your wealth). Would you jump ship on a heartbeat on your black parents that raised you just because your original white parents now want you? If you say no should you be criticized for embracing your “black” side more than your white?

    That’s kind of the situation here, the government I was born into sucks, they are oppressive, and you don’t have a whole lot of opportunity there. So my family brought me and my sibling here where we spent the majority of our lives. So if China invades USA, I’m supposed to “embrace my Chinese side” and betray the USA that have raised me??? Tell me what kind of sense that makes…

  14. GREAT THATS ONE OF THE MOST MOVING AND AMAZING SPEECHES I HAVE EVER HEaRD!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  15. @Ken J

    I appreciate your long response and I’ll break this down for you this way…

    1) Where’s the law that says we have to embrace ourselves as being American to be able to live here? And who says when we don’t that we are without a doubt taking advantage of what this country has to offer? Sure there are some people here that do in fact take advantage of the system, but just because one doesn’t consider him/herself American doesn’t mean they’re doing so. The uniqueness of this country is that it’s a melting pot. EVERYONE here is technically an immigrant in some way. We should respect everyone’s culture and ethnicity. How many times have we seen Italians, Irish or Jews here that are feverishly proud of their heritage and culture or the fact that they’re from another country. Nothing wrong with Chinese, Koreans or any other Asian doing the same.

    2) You sounded like a White American because that is usually the kind of talk you hear from them. Just like Vic or anyone else that might have thought I was some Leftist nut because I was opposing the movie. I was showing signs of a certain group of people. I mean you’re even categorizing me into a certain group just because I don’t embrace being American.

    3) Your comments are troubling because for one, the idea of a war between China and the U.S. is far fetched, but you seem to really wish it would happen. I sense a lot of anger and frustration in you, but you might want to reevaluate what really is bothering you.

    The world isn’t black and white. Your extreme bias and perceived lack of open mindedness is also troubling.

    Look at it this way. How do you think Americans would feel if they saw a White American who opposes this country and decides to just take up the fight with another country? How do you think people would feel when they hear that person say he/she would be proud to shoot up some Americans? So it’s not a surprise your way of thinking is troubling to me.

    4) There’s NOTHING WRONG with Asians or any other ethnic group in this country that embraces their American side. But your way sounds almost like self-hate and less to do with politics. Showing how American you are or proclaiming you’re the proudest doesn’t make you any more American than anyone else here. It also doesn’t change the way you appear in other people’s eyes. You’re still going to look Asian and you’re still going to be CHINESE, whether you may like it or not.

    Being a minority and coming to this country at an early age, I know about having identity issues. You sound like you had or still have that same problem, whether it be political or cultural issues. Vehemently opposing one side is not the right way to be assimilated or accepted.

    5) Lastly, I wasn’t born here so there’s no reason for me to not embrace my Chinese side more. What side you embrace is who you as a person identify more with, but there’s no need for self-hate and ridiculing others who don’t follow your way. I’m also a citizen of this country, but it doesn’t mean I have to agree with everything about it. Even though that is the case and the fact that I don’t consider myself American, also doesn’t mean I am indeed here to take advantage of the system. I pay my taxes and abide by the laws just like any other American.

    6) Like I continue to say, this has nothing to do with the U.S. or being American. National pride runs across all countries and ethnic backgrounds. If this was a discussion about Canada and China, I’d still have the same opinion.

  16. Not that I’m saying its going to happen or that I believe it will, but there have been TRV’s (technical remote viewers), that have seen a possible future where China invades the West Coast. In addition they are ultimatly stopped in Colorado…
    Pure speculation but who knows? China’s army is huge and they could sustain heavy losses before they would back down…
    Should be an interesting film.

  17. I don’t understand the fascination with a war between the U.S. and China. Not only would it be financially stupid for both parties, but historically speaking it’s not in China’s foreign policy or the Chinese culture to invade an overseas country. China is big enough as it is and a rising power. It would better both countries if they were allies rather than enemies.

  18. the only reason china would attack us is to liberate us from panda express

  19. @Antone

    Sorry to break it to you, but if you think Panda Express is “Chinese food” than you’re missing out. Don’t you know, us Chinese make that crap just to appease you Americans ;)

  20. thats why i said LIBERATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  21. @PG

    I think to prevent me from going way off topic, I’ll do the quote and response method to reply to that…

    “Where’s the law that says we have to embrace ourselves as being American to be able to live here?”

    Um, you’re missing the point. There is no law that states that. But that’s WHY we should embrace this country. Because other countries, you ARE forced to embrace the government. Here, you can criticize them, follow whatever religion you want (or not), or whatever. But that’s WHY I feel so appreciative of this country, you’re not controlled by the government.

    “EVERYONE here is technically an immigrant in some way. We should respect everyone’s culture and ethnicity. How many times have we seen Italians, Irish or Jews here that are feverishly proud of their heritage and culture or the fact that they’re from another country. Nothing wrong with Chinese, Koreans or any other Asian doing the same.”

    And exactly where do you see that I said otherwise? I think you’re missing the point, again. I never said anything about me not being proud to be Chinese, or where I said people shouldn’t be proud and aware of their ancestry. Like I’ve said, multiple times, I’m against the Chinese GOVERNMENT, not the PEOPLE!!!!!! Is this really so hard to understand? I’m proud that our culture is like 5000 years old. I’m proud that Chinese people invented just about everything we use today, lol, I’m kidding, but a lot of very important things came from the Chinese. I’m proud of everything Chinese, EXCEPT THE CURRENT GOVERNMENT. My point is that if given the choice between fighting for the USA or fighting for the CURRENT CHINESE GOVERNMENT that I would not ignore what USA have done for me and I will stand for the USA, whatever it takes.

    Everyone should be aware of their heritage and be proud of where they came from, but at the same time, they are STUPID and UNAPPRECIATIVE if they do not acknowledge all of the benefits they get from living here. And if they’re not getting any benefits over their home country, then I don’t see why they should stay here. I’m not saying I “want” you to leave if you don’t like it here, I’m simply stating, if you don’t like it here, why not leave? If I liked China more than USA, I’m not going to b**** and moan, I’ll simply move back to China. I’m an adult, I can do it if I want to.

    “You sounded like a White American because that is usually the kind of talk you hear from them.”

    “them”?? Wow, so “white people” sound a certain way? How do black people sound? What about Chinese people? A little racist are we? I didn’t think you sounded like any race, I think you sound like someone typing on an internet blog website. Do white people type a certain way I’m unfamiliar with? Do I need to talk in stereotypical broken English for you to believe that I am Chinese? Should I say flied lice and stuff like that?

    “Just like Vic or anyone else that might have thought I was some Leftist nut because I was opposing the movie. I was showing signs of a certain group of people. I mean you’re even categorizing me into a certain group just because I don’t embrace being American.”

    And what group would that be? Did I mention any group? Because I don’t remember doing so. I just think you’re an individual who doesn’t appreciate what has been given to him/her and even goes as far as to criticize someone who is appreciative. To me that’s like someone who not only double dips at a party, but then goes and criticizes those who don’t double dip…

    “Your comments are troubling because for one, the idea of a war between China and the U.S. is far fetched, but you seem to really wish it would happen.”

    Wow, and where do you see any of this? Must be your race sensors that can also pick up secret messages because I don’t see where I’m stating I wish it would happen. I’ve always said IF it were to happen. It’s something I like to call a “hypothetical situation.” I invented this concept and that phrase so don’t feel dumb for not catching it… :-D

    Oh wait, no, I didn’t invent it, it does exist, so… sorry, you should have understood that…

    “I sense a lot of anger and frustration in you, but you might want to reevaluate what really is bothering you.”

    Ooh, there goes those magical senses you have that sees things where there is nothing… Please, tell me what I’m thinking now, because I’m having a bit of mental block, but I know your psychic senses can clear it up for me…

    “The world isn’t black and white. Your extreme bias and perceived lack of open mindedness is also troubling.”

    The world isn’t black and white, funny, I thought I was trying to make that point since you seem to be so caught up about everyone’s race. Lack of open mind? I’m not the one that is stuck on the concept of embrace our race and our race only, no exceptions. My point is to objectively see who has advantaged you the most, who you appreciate the most, and ally yourself based on that criteria, which could go in many directions, while you are, “if you’re Chinese, you embrace your Chinese side and Chinese side only.” Yet, *I’M* the one being close-minded?? Yep, makes total sense, good show.

    “Look at it this way. How do you think Americans would feel if they saw a White American who opposes this country and decides to just take up the fight with another country?”

    That depends, where did he live? See, it’s not like I live in China now and am loving China, but will jump ship and go to the USA to fight for them if the time comes. I LIVE IN THE USA and have LIVED IN THE USA for the last TWENTY YEARS of my life. But there you go, so focused on the person’s race you don’t even consider where the person lived and grew up… tsk tsk tsk

    “So it’s not a surprise your way of thinking is troubling to me.”

    Again, too focused on race, if a Chinese person were to be running for president and can become the first president that is of Chinese ancestry, I’m not going to be an idiot and vote for him just because of his race, if his politics don’t match my politics, I’m not voting for him. But if his politics match mine, then hell yes, bring on the Chinese president, lol. My Spidey senses tell me you’ll be the kind that would vote for him simply because of his race regardless of his political beliefs. Am I right?

    “There’s NOTHING WRONG with Asians or any other ethnic group in this country that embraces their American side. But your way sounds almost like self-hate and less to do with politics. Showing how American you are or proclaiming you’re the proudest doesn’t make you any more American than anyone else here.”

    Where the heck do you get these things? Now I’m not even sure you’re addressing me, except you have @Ken J at the top of the post. But I really don’t see where you’re reading this. Where did I ever say anything against the Chinese PEOPLE? Where did I try to be more American than everyone? I LOVE meeting people who are as patriotic, or more patriotic, than I am, why would I want to compete with them??? It makes absolutely no sense. And by “it” I mean YOU, YOU make absolutely no sense, seriously dude, don’t make me whip out the stylus pad to write this in Chinese for you if you can’t understand English, lol.

    “You’re still going to look Asian and you’re still going to be CHINESE, whether you may like it or not.”

    Ah, still stuck on the race. Of course I’m Chinese, but I’m an American citizen. If people ask me what is my RACE, I’m Chinese, but I’m an American because I’m an American citizen. I never said I don’t like being Chinese, again, no clue where you get this, I only said that I appreicate that I’m living in America. I have just been expressing that I appreciate all of the benefits I’ve received from living here and will not be biting the hand that feeds me. Don’t see how that makes me hate my race…

    “Being a minority and coming to this country at an early age, I know about having identity issues. You sound like you had or still have that same problem, whether it be political or cultural issues. Vehemently opposing one side is not the right way to be assimilated or accepted.”

    I don’t know what problems you’ve had, but I have no identity issues. I know who I am. I’m an ethnically Chinese person who moved to the USA at a young age with my family and have become a US citizen, lived in the USA for most of my life, registered voter, have a college education, etc. etc. etc. But I forgot you got your “Racial Senses” that tell you things even I don’t know… lol

    And I’m not opposing anyone, the point of my post is that I SUPPORT the USA, against ANY invaders. And just because I wouldn’t be the smart-ass I am known to be if I don’t, at least once, copy and paste a sentence of mine to show that i’ve said this before to imply that you lack reading and comprehension skill, here it is:
    “if any country invades USA and threatens the way of life for anyone here and myself”
    In case bolding isn’t enough, notice I said ANY.

    “Lastly, I wasn’t born here so there’s no reason for me to not embrace my Chinese side more. What side you embrace is who you as a person identify more with, but there’s no need for self-hate and ridiculing others who don’t follow your way.”

    That’s funny, I thought you were ridiculing me for appreciating what the USA has given me. I’m not opposing any race, especially not mine.

    “I’m also a citizen of this country, but it doesn’t mean I have to agree with everything about it.”

    I don’t agree with everything about it either. I think we have too many social programs, we have too much taxes, we have too many gun laws, we give too much money to other countries for stupid reasons, we have too many federal laws (I believe the states should have more sovereignty over their state), I think we should make English our national language, and, uh, there are probably other things, but don’t get me started on what I find wrong with other countries… lol

    “Even though that is the case and the fact that I don’t consider myself American, also doesn’t mean I am indeed here to take advantage of the system. I pay my taxes and abide by the laws just like any other American.”

    That’s great, so you do what you’re supposed to do anyway, do you want a certificate? Want me to bake you a nice big cookie as a reward? Congrats!

    I simply don’t understand, if you’re so not proud to be an American, then why bother living here? What’s holding you back? Go buy some property in China (probably cheaper anyway!!) and move there. I’m not saying you should, I think you should stay here because I feel that the USA is much better, but if YOU don’t like it, then why do you CHOOSE to stay? I never understood that, why do people CHOOSE to stay where they don’t want to stay???

    “Like I continue to say, this has nothing to do with the U.S. or being American. National pride runs across all countries and ethnic backgrounds. If this was a discussion about Canada and China, I’d still have the same opinion.”

    *in Chris Tucker voice* Nobody understands the words that are coming out of your mouth! lol. Oh man those movies were so dumb…

  22. @Antone

    Yah, I think PG lacks reading comprehension skills. When I read your joke I understood it too, you said LIBERATE us FROM Panda Express, so obviously you’re not complimenting their food, and the fact that China would come to do that shows that they don’t approve either. So you’re saying not only is the food bad in general, but it isn’t even Chinese food. Don’t worry, I got the joke. :-D

  23. @Ken J

    I like how you have the time to rebuttal my reply by being condescending and a smart ass. It also doesn’t help that not one word you typed holds any weight. Nice to know who REALLY lacks reading comprehension skills. Hey, if you want to be the champion douche at Internet debates, then maybe I should bake YOU a nice big cookie.

  24. And you got the joke! I’ll double up on the cookies for ya, Ken.

  25. I like pie! Bring me more pie!

  26. @PG – no one here has yet to call you a name for having a different opinion then them….please refrain from the “douche” comments..Thanks.

    I’m actually enjoying the rousing debate from two people with similar backgrounds and completely differnet opinions. Let’s keep it friendly and as impersonal as possible, so I can read some more.

    BTW, Panda Express is the bomb yo!

  27. Going back a bit,,, PG, China presumably would invade for resources. Food water etc. Occupation would be there main objective. Control California and they would control a huge food source.

    Sorry to interrupt,,

  28. @790

    There’s a huge Chinese population in California. Why would fellow Chinese inflict that kind of terror on their own?

    China bringing its millions of troops across the sea would require massive amounts of food and water to feed. They control California for those resources and there will probably only be enough to get by through the war let alone salvage the rest. China has better things to do than invade some country let alone for food and water.

    Only plausible scenario is if China decides to use violence and force with Taiwan, then can I only see a China/U.S. war escalating.

    A country that is overly concerned about its international image and trying to establish itself as a legitimate super power won’t be shooting itself in the foot anytime soon I don’t think.

    Alright, this debate is getting silly. Ish like this can go on forever on both sides. If you fantasize about a war of this magnitude, fine. If you have interest in this movie, no problem. If you wanna go fight against a Commie invasion, more power to you. If you have anti-China sentiments, there are lots of political sites out in the interwebs. If you want to be angry at someone not embracing more of their American side, have at it. I’m gonna go browse the other topics on this FILM site :)

  29. PG, one other reason China might invade is over a collapse of the US dollar…
    Resulting in a massive depression in China.
    I can’t make this stuff up,,, ;-)

    Ken I’ll fly you out to Burbank if the S hits the F,,, ;-)

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