Comments on: The Real Punisher War Zone Story

By: Cool Punisher: War Zone Poster - Screen Rant

Cool Punisher: War Zone Poster - Screen Rant — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 19:28:36 +0000

[...] This film has had its share of problems throughout the production period with the bad blood between Thomas Jane (the previous Punisher) and the production team, Lexi Alexander and her (or the studio’s) “kicked off the movie” stunt. For the whole sordid history you can check out our post “The Real Punisher War Zone Story“. [...]

By: Max Payne & Punisher 2 Movie Sites Updated - Screen Rant

Max Payne & Punisher 2 Movie Sites Updated - Screen Rant — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 01:24:41 +0000

[...] seeing the pictures of him in the role and even moreso now that everything has settled down on the rumour and gossip [...]

By: Daniel Fenwick

Daniel Fenwick — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:09:34 +0000

I’m torn with the soundtrack. I love rock music and I have no problem with it being featured in a film however at the same time there is something to be said about a fantastic score. How terrible would it have been to give TDK a rock soundtrack ? Punisher in my opinion is one of those films that could honestly work either way. I think the best way to work it would make a blend of both some scene add a score sometimes put in a little rock. There really isn’t much debate though when it comes to CD soundtracks a rock CD will sell for more than a score one.

By: Ken J

Ken J — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 06:05:06 +0000

Zach, it can and it doesn’t. It really depends. Rock music can definitely add to the mood of the scene if that’s what it calls for, but to have an entire movie’s soundtrack consist of nothing but screaming black metal gets very old very fast and has been done so many times before because it seems like the easy way out.

By: Zach

Zach — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 05:14:07 +0000

Wow, I’m sad to hear so many people talking so negatively about a metal soundtrack. I think the music was what helped make the new red band footage so awesome. But I happen to be a fan of rock and think it helps out an a violent action flick, and I know a lot of people disagree with that.

By: KJ

KJ — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 17:48:47 +0000

Thanks for the info cank.

By: GPA owenstar

GPA owenstar — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 17:34:55 +0000

Cank,

I didnt say here we were called devils….We have been slammed across the web….Some people didnt like the way we did things….didnt see it through our eyes….and thats fine, I understand we arent for everyone….But we have a right to do it as we see fit…and we had reason, even when it seemed we were crazy a-holes…hahhaha

I am not gonna tell the story on a blog…check out our site and ask there….no one bothered to ask what our grassroot movement was doing, why bother giving them a story now???

Good day my friend

By: cank frastle

cank frastle — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 17:15:13 +0000

KJ I think the Hooligans cowriter popped up cuz the crew member had been gushing about the director and that burned the cowriter who strongly disagreed

Nomad thanks I thought it was funny

By: KJ

KJ — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 08:00:26 +0000

I’m curious to know why her co-writer on Hooligans popped up with such an obvious attack. What’s that all about?

By: Nomad

Nomad — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 06:07:57 +0000

AHAHAHAHAHA! Cank Frastle! [rofl]

Nomad

By: cank frastle

cank frastle — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 06:04:15 +0000

Vic the GPA was mentioned in the article you printed, ha ha!
“Because Marvel fans seem to live on the Internet, Lexi’s blog worked wonders in garnering their support. I can sympathize with her frustration with LGF, but her unprofessional blog stunt fanned a s***storm that eventually only served to torpedo PWZ’s image and, oddly enough, stroke Lexi’s ego — Punisher fansites lit up with “Bring Lexi Back” campaigns including a petition and a devoted website (GPA’s pwztruth), the latter attacking Gale Anne Hurd as a no-talent butcher of Lexi’s film. ”

I don’t think he’s saying GPA is the devil.. he’s just saying it was never gonna acomplish anything

GPA owenstar, your with GPA. waht did you acomplisH? Tell the other side of the story

By: GPA owenstar

GPA owenstar — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 04:00:24 +0000

Nomad,

Maybe I read it wrong, but I didn’t think the part that said GPA came from you….I thought it was part of the insider scoop….

I respect what you have tried to do….even if I don’t always agree with your insider! Hahaha

Vic,

I am just disappointed no one bothered to ask before they slammed (not saying it happened here) just in general….

We did something pretty amazing…..

By: Ken J

Ken J — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 03:42:36 +0000

I think the Tom Jane version balanced violence with boring, but the scale tipped a bit more toward the boring side…

I’m sorry, I normally don’t like movies with violence for violence sake, but this is The Punisher for goodness sakes. He don’t waste his time plotting some overly complicated scheme that greatly relied on chance before he strikes at his victim. He doesn’t spend half the freakin movie fixing up a car that only lasts half a minute in one lousy excuse of an action scene. He is THE PUNISHER. I didn’t see any “punishment” in the last movie except to my wallet when I paid for the ticket.

By: THE PUNISHER

THE PUNISHER — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 03:30:37 +0000

wow this was alot to read but well worth it. i happen to be a huge punisher fan and collector. i’ve been punishing pretty much since the mid 1980’s and have had to go through two punisher films that just did not live up to the comic and the stories themselves just did not work for even a non comic film. i just hope that i can finally watch a punisher film that i can brag about later to all my friends since i’ve had to go through two huge raggings from the previous films.

By: 790

790 — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 02:39:37 +0000

Sounds good, I might have to check this out after all,,,

By: Nomad

Nomad — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 02:38:21 +0000

Well, I don’t know if I agree with Daniel’s conclusion at all. We’ll just have to wait until 05 December to find out.

By: Daniel Fenwick

Daniel Fenwick — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 02:36:24 +0000

Like Nomad said complete reboot. Not even gonna feature the same origin or lead actor or really much of the same emotion. The 04 version tried to balance the violence with an emotional plot this version will try to balance Violence with Violence and a flashback of an emotional moment then they may add in some violence and gore.

Think Saw but with the Punisher in it.

By: Nomad

Nomad — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 02:21:24 +0000

Punisher War Zone is a total reboot, a total re-imagining, from the last two films. It assumes that the audience for the most part knows the origin story, but there are flashbacks of Frank, in the park, holding the bodies of his children. So people new to the Punisher will have SOME clue as to WHY Frank Castle would choose the life he’s chosen.

By: Grayson

Grayson — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 02:20:56 +0000

GPA owenstar said “But it smells of positive spin, just like the last thing steve gainer said.” Got to agree with that!

By: Grayson

Grayson — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 02:18:16 +0000

Rampage-

You do make a point. Why would Drake permit all this bad publicity if he weren’t thinking about dumping the film? It would certainly make him look justified later! But . . . on IMDB someone pointed out that LG’s The Midnight Meat Train was competition for a film Drake produced (The Strangers) so that’s why he dumped it. If there is ANY truth to that, then that would bode WELL for Punisher, wouldn’t it? At least we’d know Drake isn’t dumping ALL of his predecessor’s films out of spite.

All of the bad publicity simply begs the question of who was actually benefiting from it? Either Drake or . . . Alexander. It would seem she and the fans are the only ones even paying attention to the internet. If you think about it, the only time insiders get frustrated and angry enough to contact the media is when they want to put pressure on someone who isn’t otherwise listening. The only remotely credible insiders did it twice. Once when Lexi was fired and the movie was supposedly to get a metal soundtrack, and the other when the film supposedly got a PG-13 rating. And the updates made to IMDB, apparently NOT by LionsGate, were about the film’s running time and the composer, both of which turned out to be false and both of which lent credibility to the theory that Hurd was butchering Lexi’s film.

So I simply don’t buy that LionsGate is manipulating the online public in order to get their opinions on soundtracks and running times and ratings. The only thing which would consistently explain everything is that Alexander got either fired or pulled off the project and has been cleverly manipulating people in order to pressure LG to reinstate her. After all, the rumors only began after Alexander was fired. Unfortunately they have only eroded faith in the film.

I guess fans can go on believing that their outcry has actually influenced Lionsgate to ditch the PG-13 rating and the rock soundtrack, or they can believe that those things were never on the agenda to begin with and they’ve simply been manipulated by someone whose methods have damaged the very film they want to save!

Whatever. I just want it all the garbage to stop, and give me a good movie!!!!!!