Quicksilver Cast in ‘X-Men: Days of Future Past’ – What Does This Mean For ‘The Avengers 2′?

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Bryan Singer is pulling out all the stops for X-Men: Days of Future Past. Seemingly every time a rival studio earns headlines with news bits or announcements, whether it be Sony with The Amazing Spider-Man 2, Warner Bros. with Man of Steel or Marvel Studios and their pile of Phase Two films, the director who first brought X-Men to life on the big screen takes to Twitter with a newsworthy slice of info himself.

While Iron Man 3 is currently rocking theaters worldwide, Thor: The Dark World next on the docket, Captain America: The Winter Soldier shooting in public areas and Guardians of the Galaxy gearing up for a London production start next month, the two-years-out sequel to The Avengers has managed to steal some spotlight with writer/director Joss Whedon hyping up the introduction of two new characters, one of which Bryan Singer just cast in X-Men: Days of Future Past. What?

Let’s start at the beginning. Just a few weeks ago during the LA world premiere of Iron Man 3, Joss Whedon intentionally revealed to reporter after reporter on the red carpet that his first script draft for The Avengers 2 (still untitled) was complete. He expressed excitement about introducing and playing with a new “brother-sister” act, which fans knew right away was a reference to Pietro and Wanda Maximoff, aka Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch. Reports here and there claimed to have confirmed the two characters, but it was clinched when Joss Whedon confirmed it himself, talking about how the pair may mess with the team dynamic and not necessarily agreeing with how The Avengers function.

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Obviously with Twentieth Century Fox owning the film rights to all things mutant and X-Men from the Marvel Comics universe, there were some questions that needed to be answered. We knew from interviews with Marvel Studios President of Production Kevin Feige that these two characters were contractually an exception to the rule since in the books, they are both X-Men characters and members of The Avengers. He said it’s “complicated” but essentially, both studios could use the brother and sister. We also understand that if Marvel Studios were to use them in the Marvel Cinematic Universe there were some stipulations – namely that they couldn’t be mutants, nor could they be children of X-Men villain Magneto.

Does that mean both studios could use them simultaneously or is it a case of first come, first served? We don’t know but we’re going to find out pretty damn soon because just weeks after Joss Whedon announced his intentions of introducing them in The Avengers 2, Bryan Singer is beating him to the punch:

X-Men: Days of Future Past releases next July and The Avengers 2 releases May 2015. It should also be noted the Days of Future Past began production a few weeks ago, so the casting of Evan Peters – an incredible actor for anyone who’s watched American Horror Story – is oddly timed to say the least, if not intentional. With the sheer amount of characters at play in the X-Men super team-up, Peters likely will not have a significant role to play, but at this point, with Singer turning the time-travel tale into an all-star cast party featuring towering Sentinel robots and Peter Dinklage’s mustache, more the merrier, right? And how can you say no to this guy:

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What does this mean for The Avengers 2 and X-Men: Days of Future Past? There are three possibilities:

  1. Singer and Fox are planting their foot in the ground and beating Marvel Studios to the punch, finally introducing Magneto’s children after six X-Men films (we’re not counting the “cameo” in X-Men Origins: Wolverine), and both studios are offering their own adaptation of the super-fast Quicksilver character and his sister. Fox has Peters, who will Whedon cast to compete?
  2. Marvel and Joss Whedon’s “brother-sister act” may not be what it seems and rumors of them changing their origins significantly may prove true – non-mutants of British heritage, unrelated to Magneto, perhaps even with different names. If this is the case, what’s the point of using them and not any of the dozens of other legally available Avengers members from the vast Marvel Library?
  3. The ultimate fanboy outcome: However unlikely, after all the talk from Fox’s Marvel movie consultant Mark Millar and producer Lauren Shuler Donner of desiring a crossover with The Avengers universe, Fox and Disney/Marvel have somehow struck up a deal to make it so. Beginning with X-Men: Days of Future Past, the Scarlet Witch/Quicksilver introduced in Singer’s film are the same pair going to show up in The Avengers 2, meaning Evan Peters may have just been cast in The Avengers 2 as well. They can get away with not entirely acknowledging the events of the upcoming X-Men film (and previous franchise installments) with the alternate timeline/universe plot device. Heck, Scarlet Witch can use her reality and probability altering abilities to literally erase the existence of all (most) mutants, explaining why they’ve not appeared or been mentioned in the Marvel Studios movies (see: House of M). Not to get too far into geekdom, but such a deal with Fox would potentially allow Marvel Studios to utilize characters from the Fantastic Four library as well and we know they’re interested in owning Silver Surfer and Galactus again…

The third option is super complicated, but it was widely reported that Marvel Studios was at least willing to work with other studios when it came to The Avengers since they were willing to include the Oscorp tower from The Amazing Spider-Man into the same skyline as the Stark Tower. Scheduling of visual effects sadly prevented it from happening. For fans, this is the best case scenario, but also the least likely.

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The more likely scenario is that each studio is, unfortunately, aiming to draw from the same two characters, and for Fox, since they have not one, but two Magnetos played by two of the best actors on the planet, win out. That would mean Marvel Studios – much like they were criticized for taking liberties from Marvel Comics in Iron Man 3′s story – are going to go even more extreme in distancing themselves from the source material with their versions of Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch in The Avengers 2. That is, assuming Whedon and Feige are not playing everyone about the new characters in sequel.

Right now, one thing is official. Evan Peters is playing Quicksilver in X-Men: Days of Future PastThe Avengers 2 shoots next year and rumor has it, they already have mock ups of their ideal designs for Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch, the latter of which is based on Oscar-nominated actress Saoirse Ronan. She was asked about her thoughts on the rumors by The Mary Sue to which she replied:

“I have heard about it and yes, I would. Yeah, of course I would. I love Joss and I love those films, and I love his handle on them and how he portrayed these kinds of superheroes. I think it’s very different from what anyone else has done. So yeah, I’d love to be in it.”

With Quicksilver now cast, a Scarlet Witch X-Men announcement may be coming up soon for the film that serves as a sequel to both X-Men: The Last Stand and X-Men: First Class. Bryan Singer knew this tweet would result in buzz, confusion and questions and perhaps that’s all a part of the plan. Soon we’ll hear from executives and talent from both sides of the camp and we may have our answers. Or maybe we won’t and there are surprises to be had further into the future.

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Ready to have your mind blown? What if Saoirse Ronan was cast as Wanda Maximoff in X-Men: Days of Future Past?

Ready to have your mind blown again? It’s possible that Quicksilver appears in two different variations in theaters before The Flash is even introduced on the big screen. Some things just aren’t fair in life.

[Update: Mark Millar hinted at "crossing over certain characters" previously.]

Bryan Singer directs X-Men: Days of Future Past with newcomers Peter Dinklage, Omar Sy, Boo Boo Stewart, Fan Bingbing, Evan Peters, Adan Canto, along with returning stars Jennifer Lawrence, Michael Fassbender, James McAvoy, Nicholas Hoult, Patrick Stewart, Ian McKellen, Hugh Jackman, Anna Paquin, Ellen Page, Shawn Ashmore, Halle Berry, Daniel Cudmore.

The Wolverine releases July 26, 2013, X-Men: Days of Future Past on July 18, 2014.

Let me know on Twitter @rob_keyes if you’d like to see X-Men and The Avengers crossover!

Sources: Bryan Singer, The Mary Sue (via CBM)

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  1. Well thats not cool… but it sure is funny

    • Agreed lmao!!! :)

      • haha, yeah it is funny. Especially since Joss usually keeps these things a secret until right before the movie, or even until the movie airs.

  2. This can mean a few things:

    1. If Joss Whedon had not said anything, Fox probably wouldn’t be using him.

    2. Fox lowballed Marvel.

    3. Joss will change his script.

    4. X-Men Days Of Future Past will be terrible

    5. Marvel & Fox worked out a small deal.

    6. The only good thing that’ll come out of this is if Scarlett & Quicksilver will still appear in the Avenegers, and their backstory won’t need to be explained.

    • I think you can be viewing this too harshly on Fox and perhaps Singer.
      I am not saying that it couldn’t have been a last second addition after Whedon’s announcement but to be objective about the ideals this is my views:

      1) Perhaps the plan was to use the siblings all along but was kept secret just as many other details and casting of the film. Since Whedon has confirmed their version of the characters, Singer wanted to follow up with his own news.

      2) Fox may have had this plan for a while now. Perhaps after the Avengers, the script writers decided to use the characters before the sequel comes out. Whedon may have announced it first but we have no idea who may have written the roles first. Plus there was already a cameo beforehand of the character so it is evident that there was thoughts of using the characters prior to Singer’s announcement.

      3)Well honestly this is the first confirmed draft, so changes were going to be made surely in subsequent drafts. Some changes would be in response to the progress and reception of the Phase 2 films and production as well as some changes in response to X-Men and Man of Steel perhaps. Concerning specifically Quicksilver and maybe Scarlet Witch, both those characters may only share abilities and names and nothing more with their Fox/Days of Future’s Past counterparts- so I do not see why much change from that standpoint that would not be natural.

      4) I just do not see how the usage of at least Quicksilver and possibly Scarlet Witch will make X-Men: Days of Future’s Past a terrible film. It could very well be, but just because the film has these characters will mean it is a terrible film in the making. By that notion Avengers 2 will be even more of a disaster because the characters will not even be their full definitive selves.

      5) Maybe.

      6) Well if anything the characters of Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch will have different back stories as hinted by the comments made by Whedon.

      4)

      • I think his fear of DoFP being terrible are based on the different characters, on average, getting about 5 minutes of screentime. Hell, most of the budget at this point seeming to go to actors. Also, Jack the Giant-Flop doesn’t inspire confidence. Yeah, I hope this is more X2 than Last Stand, but I am not optimistic, and announcing MORE CASTING at this stage doesn’t excite me so much as disturb me.

        • I understand. It just sounded more like the film will be terrible rather might be terrible. Honestly I hope it comes together well too but at this point I am neither excited nor upset with how things how are going.

        • Parmandur – Yes, that’s what I was alluding to. One of the flaws of the first movie was that mainly Azazel, and other characters were wasted. This is looking like X3 all over again. They already have a difficult story to tell, but throwing in all of these characters is crazy.

      • Hey, I know: how about if Singer and Whedon offer a joint statement of their intentions–a detailed one–so we know if it is to be love or war (or just in-between cautious cooperation)?!

        • that… would cure my anxiety.

    • “4.X-Men Days Of Future Past will be terrible”…AGREED!

  3. Well this is not going to confuse anyone

  4. Look I have a pretty good theory. What if quicksilver wasn’t super fast like in the comics but his power was to enter tv and films. That explains alot.

    • Wow man that is a great idea. You are great! You have so many great ideas! Well put an well written. God you are so great!

  5. Damn peters is a damn great actor! I would have liked to see hkm in avengers two.

    I think each studio is doing their own thing and it shouldn’t matter if it’s two different actors. I think the majority of movie goers that arnt geeks like us know that xmen movies are not tied to the avengers and their solo films so I don’t really see a issue. Whedon can do his thing and singer can do his. I doubt there will ever be a deal struck where there can be a crossover. Would be great! But I doubt it. Marvel has a better chance of crossing over with spidey at Sony then xmen at fox.

    Ronan is not my first choice for scarlet whitch but I can see her in the role. Peters is a damn good choice though for quicksilver.

    • Any idea how old Peters actually is? I’m not real familiar with him.

  6. That is a dick movie. So Fox is going to use two characters into an already overcasted movie just so Joss Whedon can’t? What the hell did Joss do to those guys to make them hate him so much!

    • He made the Avengers.

      • Exactly success causes envy

        • chins up men!
          This is all a publicity stunt for Disney and Fox to really stick it to Warner Brothers.

          What? You didn’t forget about the Justice League move did ya? What’s the best course of action for the Avengers/X-men movie universes against the classic and dauntingly pop-cultured members of the Justice League? Easy; team up and use the combined popularity of the Avengers and the X-men to squash the competition.

    • @JamesF

      I think you are looking at this too harshly. Look up at my comment replying to Tay above.

      • I know realistically speaking it wasn’t out of spite or at least I’d like to believe it wasn’t. Also just because I too like long numbered list posts

        ) Perhaps the plan was to use the siblings all along but was kept secret just as many other details and casting of the film. Since Whedon has confirmed their version of the characters, Singer wanted to follow up with his own news.

        I’d go a step further and suggest that maybe the X-Men and Avengers versions are the same characters, maybe Fox and Marvel made a deal and Bryan Singer figured that since Joss Whedon had already confirmed the characters for Avengers he could do the same for X-Men (and the twist being that their the same version)

        2) Fox may have had this plan for a while now. Perhaps after the Avengers, the script writers decided to use the characters before the sequel comes out. Whedon may have announced it first but we have no idea who may have written the roles first. Plus there was already a cameo beforehand of the character so it is evident that there was thoughts of using the characters prior to Singer’s announcement.

        That’s always a possibility. Maybe both sides just had the same idea, personally while Whedon is better then Singer I think now I’d actually prefer Fox having the characters, at least we won’t have an improvised version of Pietro and Wanda to please Fox’s lawyers.

        3)Well honestly this is the first confirmed draft, so changes were going to be made surely in subsequent drafts. Some changes would be in response to the progress and reception of the Phase 2 films and production as well as some changes in response to X-Men and Man of Steel perhaps. Concerning specifically Quicksilver and maybe Scarlet Witch, both those characters may only share abilities and names and nothing more with their Fox/Days of Future’s Past counterparts- so I do not see why much change from that standpoint that would not be natural.

        Again plausible but it sounds like Fox is making this move to keep the characters from Marvel Studios, everything else they’ve been doing up in-till now has been for the same reasons.

        4) I just do not see how the usage of at least Quicksilver and possibly Scarlet Witch will make X-Men: Days of Future’s Past a terrible film. It could very well be, but just because the film has these characters will mean it is a terrible film in the making. By that notion Avengers 2 will be even more of a disaster because the characters will not even be their full definitive selves.

        To me it’s not that those characters will ruin the film but that it seems like their addition will ruin it. I’d be saying the same if it was any other two mutant characters, there’s simply too many characters there. Granted a lot of them may be sideline characters but there’s too many main characters in this film who are all going to be fighting for screen time. Unless it’s Magneto going “Hey here’s my kids, I made them fight humans and it turned out I was their dad! Who’d have guessed!?” then it’ll take up yet more screentime.

        6) Well if anything the characters of Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch will have different back stories as hinted by the comments made by Whedon.

        Hopefully if I’m right we can have our cake and eat it and then eat the second Wolverine themed cake because if I had a choice I’d have gone with Spider-Man and Wolverine. (Yeah I know Sony owns Spider-Man but their not that stubborn I mean they wouldn’t drag something out to the bitter end…yeah Marvel is NEVER getting Spider-Man back)

    • @james f why do you wanna see a dick movie? You are not great

      • Don’t you want to see a Dick movie starring Dick Van Dyke as The Dick?

  7. What the what? That’s craaazy. I think it’s likely Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch will get scrapped from Avengers 2. Feige said himself the script could change. I seriously doubt we’ll be seeing two different versions of Quicksilver and I doubt even more this is some sort of crossover plan. Marvel Studios has a ton of characters to draw from anyways.

  8. Wonder y they even need to have quick silver in days of future past. The cast is big enough already his prob gonna have like 5 min of screen time

    • That’s just it…they didn’t need them in Days of Future past (and that is coming from me–a Quicksilver/Scarlet Witch fan from the early comics days!). They are needed in Avengers, tho.
      By the way, WHERE’S CYCLOPS?!

  9. Well since X-Men already started filming, it seems likely that Singer already had Quicksilver in mind for the film a while ago when he was finishing up the script, so I say it’s fair game. Either way, I wouldn’t mind seeing two representations of the same character, but it will without a doubt confuse some of the audience.

    • That’s a nice thought but I highly doubt it. I’m leaning toward the idea that the moment Joss Whedon announced the possible addition of the sibling duo Fox was like “no way”. I wondered if Fox would go out of their way to mess with the Avengers but thought that would be crazy. Guess not lol. With all these additions DOFP is either going to be incredible or just another X3 smh.

      • The character(s) were never firmly stated to have not been in the film. A likely scenario is that Singer and Co. have been keeping secrets about some of the cast members that are new or may be returning just as secrets are kept of every other detail. After the Avengers, they probably thought of using the characters, and thus when Joss let it slip that those may be the characters used in his first draft, Fox then revealed their plan to use the characters.

      • I don’t think Singer added a character like Quicksilver in the movie out of spite. It’s way too last minute and it’s kind of idiotic to add a character to the movie simply to prevent another movie, releasing a year later, from using the character. I hope it is incredible, there’s always a chance it will bomb, but keep in mind, of all the X-Men that have actually been successful in both ratings and box office, Singer has been involved.

        • I disagree. I see nothing but spite in this. I think there might even be some back-scenes lawyers rattling their spears.

          • I just don’t understand how it’s spiteful though =/, I don’t think he’d go to so much trouble to add a character just to attack the Avengers.

            • I would like to think the Democrats and Republicans could work together for the good of the country and the American people, but there only seems to be a few of them actually doing that.

  10. Awkward. Maybe Disney won’t be so quick , pardon the pun, to get rid of Renner’s Hawkeye after all.

    • That was never going to happen. Someone made that up based on an old interview from last summer where Renner says he wants to play the Clint Barton from the books – good on him.

      • Oh I see. I didn’t realize that. Thanks for clearing that up. I am interested in seeing what happens with Quicksilver as far as A2 is concerned.

      • yes, in the blue/purple uniform, mask and all. Now that is the Hawkeye we all know and love (OK, I admit I am speaking like old royalty, with the “we” meaning me, but is anyone else feeling that way out there?).

        • No. I personally liked the costume Hawkeye wore in the films, the blue/purple uniform made sense in the comics since Hawkeye came from a hero background but in The Avengers film he’s coming from a secret agent background, I still think they should have made it more obvious in Thor that he was Hawkeye, I read a lot of Marvel and even I was confused by the random Archer Sniper’s appearance in Thor.

          Also the mask was always stupid, he wore a giant H on he’s face. Captain America’s A made more sense seeing as he’s suppose to be this big over the top patriotic hero. Again just my opinion, it made sense in the comics, not so much in a live action movie.

        • Nah, not the costume, the lonewolf Marksman with attitude.

          In The Avengers, he’s there for the final battle as a recon sniper. the other hour and 45 min, he’s literally a zombie, like Renner pointed out.

  11. I feel like the screenplay for XmenDOFP is really just a list of mutants that someone mistakened for a screenplay…

    • +1

    • @Trey
      LMAO!!! That was a Godd One!!! :)

  12. Although the third option you stated would be very complicated, it could work well for all studios to bridge the gaps between their respective franchises and would no doubt be a huge financial gain for all parties because of Marvel’s already established fanbase.

  13. LMAO Joss is gonna be pissed. If FOX was smart they’d loan them out for A2 for a slice of that Marvel pie.

  14. I’m not convinced that ANYTHING was ever confirmed with regards to quicksilver and scarlet witch being in Avengers 2. I’d like to also point out that the tech and bio tech agents, as shown in the Agents of SHIELD preview, have British accents and are brother and sister…ever since IM3 nothing is what the rumors say.

  15. Step one: Deal with THIS:

    ” Conflicting sources list the different series as being in differing universes with individual numbering. As the official numbers are in dispute, they are left without a specific designation as the others have above. Current numbering possibilities for each series are as such:

    10005 – The X-Men film series, as given by the Marvel Comics Database.
    96283 – The Spider-Man film series, as given by the Marvel Comics Database. This does not include the 2012 reboot.
    121698 – The Fantastic Four film series, as given by the Marvel Comics Database.
    199999 – The Marvel Cinematic Universe, covering the Iron Man film series, Thor, The Incredible Hulk (2008), Captain America and the Avengers. Anything spinning off of or relating to the Avengers is likely to be within this universe. The number is given in the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe.
    120703 – The Amazing Spider-Man film, and its sequels, as given by the Marvel Comics Database.
    400083 – The 2003 Hulk film, as given by the Marvel Comics Database.”

    I know these aren’t official, but Marvel needs to do some multiverse cleanup, particularity with their movies.

    In my dream scenario Marvel gets all of the rights back to FF, X-Men, and Spiderman, and they take a page from DC go Crisis on it – combining the various cinematic universes into one.

    Part of that dream is a Rami/Webb Spiderman fight. I know. I can dream.

    Now I doubt that Sony is going to let Spiderman go anywhere, but this bit of news gives me hope for a Fox/Disney agreement – with the Maximoffs (particularly reality warping Wanda) key to the merging of the mutant/avengers universes.

    • Ughem… this was supposed to go here ;) :

      That’s the kind of thing that would work perfectly in the comics… I think what you’re suggesting (while being very clever and creative), would be WAY too confusing for regular movie-goers and casual fans though (possibly even turning them off from watching more movies).

      If there’s one thing big movie studios are afraid of doing, it’s financing a movie with an overly convoluted story that could, in their minds at least, alienate viewers.

      • “If there’s one thing big movie studios are afraid of doing, it’s financing a movie with an overly convoluted story that could, in their minds at least, alienate viewers.”

        If they can handle Days of Future Past (and its every expanding cast), they can handle multiverses, multiple versions of characters, etc.

        Particularly a since its an easy way to explain where the X-men were during the Battle of New York and the rest of the MCU films – they don’t exist on Earth-199999… except for the two who can bridge that gap.

        Marvel and Fox COULD realize a mutually beneficial agreement to combine the universes, if they feel it is in their best interests to do so as a co-production. This might be the bold move that The Avengers and Phase I was, and all would see amazing windfalls for both studios.

        Is there a more time honored comic tradition than the cross-over? Well besides fridging girlfriends for simple motivations.

        Hey, who owns the movie rights the Amalgam characters? Let’s make a Dark Claw movie… Now THAT would be a rights/narrative/artistic cluster-f.

        • We don’t know how Days of Future Past will turn out though.
          At this point, as much as I hope I’m wrong, it could turn out be even more of a mess than X3.

          From some fans’ perspectives it would be awesome to see the studios work out a “deal”, but honestly, Marvel doesn’t need to take that risk. Their last two movies, combined, have made over $2.6 billion (and counting), while Fox’s last THREE X-Men movies (combined) hardly made $1 billion.

          If I were in charge of Marvel Studios, I wouldn’t take that kind of risk without there being an overwhelmingly beneficial reason (which I just don’t see). Marvel is clearly doing more than fine on their own.

          And speaking as a fan now, I just REALLY, REALLY, REALLY ;) don’t want to see Fox’s f’ed up X-men continuity be a part of Marvel’s MCU (something which has been carefully planned out and executed with very little flaw since it’s inception)

      • @The Avenger – I don’t think you’re wrong that it might alienate the viewers, but that is the same argument that people have been using about Rocket Raccoon. I think people would be more open to having reality changed by Scarlet Witch than accepting a Raccoon/Alien sharing time with RDJ.

  16. What is to prevent Whedon from casting the EXACT SAME ACTOR! Then Fox would be the one to introduce him and they (Whedon) would not have to worry about that part of it. Unless there is a clause in Evan Peters contract, the only thing that would need to change would be the wardrobe. It would also create the appearance of a larger universe!

    • That’s similar to what I was going to suggest. Include no backstory in Avengers 2. Just take the character(s) as already having been introduced (and don’t use the m-word or the M-name). Makes Pietro and Wanda even easier to use. The problem with this idea is that, being unable to refer to their history (or at least to much of it) makes them little more than cyphers — collections of abilities rather than fully fleshed out characters. It also makes the “why didn’t Tony call SHIELD for help?” type questions applicable (and, in this case, literally unanswerable since answering them violates legal agreements).

      • Actually the mutant thing is a bit easier to explain since they are mostly in hiding. As to why the X-men did not help…I am not sure that the are heroes in that sense. None of the movies have focused on them acting like heroes…for example let’s say stopping someone from being mugged…like you see Spiderman do. So I think they could more credibly ignore that question.

    • Marvel has tried to build a solid brand even with a few missteps but to try and tie into Fox’ X-men franchise would be a mistake. A crossover with Marvel and Fox only strengthens Fox and diminishes Marvel, as far as plot and brand is concerned.

    • If you read the whole thing, it clearly states why that can’t happen. Because Fox holds the rights to everything X-men, if Marvel wants to use Quicksilver, he can not be the Quicksilver from the X-men Universe. He can not be Magneto’s son, and he can not be a mutant. That means bringing Fox’s Quicksilver over to Marvel’s universe would require permission from, and royalties to, Fox.

      • The point I was making is by casting the same actor the audience would assume it was the same Quicksilver. So Marvel’s movie does not need to mention Magneto or mutants irregardless of if they can or can’t, people will make the connection just through the use of the same actor. I imagine they would have to change his look so that it is different from the Fox take…but other than that the actor can choose whatever projects he wants and the studio (Marvel) could choose who they want to play the role.

        • The mere implication that they are the same character would be enough for Fox’s lawyers to call foul.

        • Whedon wouldn’t want to cast the same actor, because he wouldn’t want audiences even considering that it is the same character from the other franchise, he would want to do his own interpretation of the character. Also, when actors sign on to play superhero characters in films, it often involves multi-picture contracts, and I am sure within that contract is a stipulation that the actor cannot take that character and portray him with another studio.

  17. Personally a lot of people are seemingly upset that the characters will be used in an X-Men film. I do not think this is some last minute casting to go on the offensive after Whedon’s announcement but rather Singer and Co. think it is time to go on the defensive and announce what there plan is.

    There is much information that is not confirmed or fully known surrounding the project that is X-Men: Days of Future’s Past. There may be new and returning cast members that has not been released yet. There may be plot details not yet revealed. The only real source of any news are Singer’s Tweets and at this point, Singer has been a major tease. The article mentioned a cameo of the character in a previous film, so it would not be stretched to say that the studio and producers have flirted with the idea of bringing in the children of Magneto.

    After the Avengers became a big hit and Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch being prominent members of the Avengers themselves, the script writers probably thought it was about time to bring the characters before the competition. Plus, with the younger X-Men characters being explored in the First Class continuity and the studio really wanting to make a Magneto Origins film prior to X-Men: First Class, it only seems natural the story of Magneto’s children becoming a reality on film.

    I am sure Joss Whedon was just the first to announce his intention of bringing the characters to life on screen and received so much buzz due to the piece of information that Singer and Co. decided it was time to get a piece of the buzz and get people asking questions.

    I would also like to point out that most of the information and buzz surrounding Whedon’s announcement was centered primarily on Scarlet Witch. Singer spoke solely of Quicksilver. Not to say either side would use the other characters but if it was really the intention of Fox and Singer to steal thunder and one up Whedon and Marvel Studios at the last second, Singer’s Tweet would have been about Scarlet Witch, I imagine.

    Interesting choice of words.

  18. X-men days of future past had better use Scarlett Witch since he is useing Quick Silver or i will be pissed! and as for the Avengers let Fox use the twin mutants Avengers needs more female Superheroes Like Warbirs,Wasp,She-Hulk, and Maybe even USE Ultron,Giant-Man,and The Leader. These are the Characters that need to be Used for the Avengers and maybe have Wedon bring in the real Mandarin with Alien Tech rings to make up for Ironman 3′s/Marvels biggest mistake.Would ALSO love to see MoreCyclops,Nightcrawler,Gambit,Blob,Juggernaught,and Sabretoothe,as well as new Mutants like Husk,Beak,Archangel,Sinister,Apocalypse,John Sublime, and more of the origins cast of x-men 1 and 2.

    • Avengers baddies I dream of seeing: the “REAL” Mandarin, Ultron, Kang, Skrulls, Diablo, Whirlwind.

  19. So now onto the actual news and the implications of said news.

    The use of Quicksilver is interesting. There has been talks of adapting Magneto’s origins into a film before the X-Men: First Class film was produced and ultimately was the means to tell that story. It could have been that dealing with Magneto fathering twins and their adult identities was the organic and natural progression of the plot. But the question lies within the fact, the Magneto must have already fathered the children within/prior to the events of First Class in order for the character to be the age the actor is portraying or the character is from the “future” timeline with the present-day cast.

    How big of a role is Quicksilver and whether that relationship to his sister or his father would be prominent, is not obvious or sure but I do hope its real substance. I enjoy the first two X-Men films and hope that Bryan Singer is able to get back into that mode.

    The cast is pretty immense and the story can be muddled pretty quickly if not taken with care and precision.

    What does this imply to the Avengers 2? Whedon has just finished his first script and will be working on more drafts, so numerous changes can happen. I do not think anyone will get confused per se due to the back stories being different and other details. The studios could work a deal but this is arguably very different than having a cameo of a building. Both sides have right to the characters so I do not agree that one side should limit themselves just because the other team is using the characters as those characters may end up being very different in the end.

    Cannot think of something else to say right now other than…..WB/DC please show us the Flash!!!!

    • That’s the kind of thing that would work perfectly in the comics… I think what you’re suggesting (while being very clever and creative), would be WAY too confusing for regular movie-goers and casual fans though (possibly even turning them off from watching more movies).

      If there’s one thing big movie studios are afraid of doing, it’s financing a movie with an overly convoluted story that could, in their minds at least, alienate viewers.

      • Oh crap, that comment was supposed to be a reply to @Morrigan.
        Sorry! I’m sleepy!

        • @The Avenger

          It is okay buddy. I was actually confused for a bit before I read your follow-up comment haha.

          Get some sleep bro!

    • Yes, absolutely, The Flash is high on my priority list as well! Actually, to get the milage of 2 movies out of one, plus introduce another JLA member, how about Green lantern 2 & The Flash movie being combined into a team-up flick? Green Lantern (Hal Jordan/Ryan Reynolds) and Flash (Barry Allen) versus Sinestro and Professor Zoom (Reverse Flash)? An equal 2 on 2 fight that I think will vortex EVERYBODY into the theaters! (Just make GL more serious…and Flash as well).

      • Hmm… Young Quicksilver comes from Fox. Adult Quicksilver comes from Marvel. The Flash comes from DC. DC also whips out Professor Zoom, and Marvel trots out Whirlwind. It’s enough to make my head spin like a Roto-Rooter Gone Wild! Everybody into the speedster-stakes brawl!

        • Whirlwind is hardly a speedster. he’s a human tasmanian devil..well..mutant.

    • That’s kinda the thing though. If they’re significantly different in The Avengers 2, why use them and not any of the countless others who Marvel Studios owns in full?

  20. They should really just cross Scarlett witch, and Quicksilver over both films to connect them in a sense, that would be awesome to use little cameo’s from each others films, and make the universe bigger.

  21. This is the exact kind of thing I was worried would happen.

    A studio cross-over is very unlikely, and having the same characters in two different “movie universes” would just cause confusion.
    So what’s the other option? Marvel would have to change things up…

    Honestly, if Fox is going to use the characters in their movies, Whedon should just scrap the idea and get some other characters in the mix.
    I don’t know about all of you, but if they aren’t mutants, and have different origins, and different explanations for their powers, and aren’t called Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch/Pietro and Wanda Maximoff, and are played by actors who look different than the other actors Fox hired (and thus, will most likely look less like the actual characters), then what is the point?
    We’ll be left with half-@$$ed characters that’ll hardly be recognizable.

    • My sentiments exactly. Having the same character in two unrelated franchises would just be too confusing to the casual movie goer. I imagine this tweet has sent Whedon and co. scrambling like chickens with their heads cut off. Honestly, I’m fine with two different Quicksilvers, provided Whedon never even thinks about casting Tom Felton for the role.

    • @The Avenger, I see what you mean, but we don’t know in what capacity of how much or how deeply rooted into the ENTIRE script that the characters were there for in Avengers 2. From what what I’ve read, they are a big part of the script and are not there for just a scene or two. Taking them out may dig a huge hole in the script that may hurt the script as a whole. Some plot devices totally rely on certain characters and may even cause a entire script to have to be re-written if they are taken out.

  22. Hahaha, yeah what’s 1-2 more characters dumped into this movie? As it stands we are probably only going to see most of them for 1-2 min cameos.

    This is a lame attempt by Fox to beat Marvel to the punch but history has proven that being first is meaningless if you do a crappy job. It’s like posting, “first!” on a forum thread……So what?

    Seeing both characters through the ENTIRE Avengers 2 will trump an a** jammed cameo on Fox’s part.

    • But Fox already used Quicksilver in Origins, and just because we all wish that movie never happened, it still happened. Plus the the twins were referenced in X2, on Stryker’s computer on a list of known mutants. They are already in Fox’s X-Mem films.

      But I will say there seems to be a lot of people capable of time travel here. Already knowing how good this movie will be.

      • Yes, I know it, you know it and about 1% of the population might remember it but that cameo was completely forgettable (as was the movie in general though I can’t get the picture of what they did to poor Deadpool out of my mind :( ) And regardless of whether it happened, fans in general have denounced the movie.

        That being said, considering the sheer number of cast members and the late announcement of this, there is little chance either character will have more than a cameo.

        As I said, a lame attempt by Fox to use the characters in some real way (a 2 second cameo doesn’t count) just to beat Marvel’s use of them.

    • Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch for integral permanent parts in The Avengers!

  23. To all those complaining Singer ripped off Whedon: You do realize the script as well as production for X-Men DOFP happened waaaay before Whedon made his announcement about the character appearing in the Avengers 2, a movie two years out from release.

    • Why did we not hear a peep about Q & SW from Singer until now? No, I don’t buy it as a long-tem, already-set plan in the script. It was shoe-horned in.

      • ***long-term*** I spell crummy after a hard day at work, tonight–forgive me!

      • Your answer with a question: what NEW characters did you hear about in X:DOFP before they were cast?

        • @Rob Keyes, Of all of the other characters, why wait until now to announce it right after Whedon, especially when DOFP is already chock full of characters. I would think that they would have at least announced who’s playing Cyclops, who IS more of an integral character that needs to be announced first before characters who will only cameo.

  24. I love to see films slowly nose dive before taking the final plunge of shame!

    X Men Days of Future Past is going to be so bad! I might just see it to laugh at how bad it is.

  25. Great! Now I have to go sleep feeling PO’d! ;)
    Fantastic analysis though, Rob, as always.

    • Thx buddy!

  26. yeh its not good but when i saw this i laughed my butt off its sad but it is funny its horrible for joss and the avengers 2 but i mean they can use them still but not mention anything about magento and what not

  27. The bizarre thing will be when all the general audience members decry the Flash as a rip-off of Quicksilver. :S

  28. Marvel’s universe shouldn’t connect to X-Men’s jumbled up series. Don’t need to tag that shamefully bad continuity along to Avengers. I hope Days of Future Past can redeem the series, but this move just seems uninspired.

    I think it would nearly be better for Marvel to scrap the brother-sister duo from their movie to save unnecessary confusion, but we’ll see.

  29. I’m losing interest in the new XMen movie as the news surrounding it pops out, and that’s not good. I think the cast is seriously too crowded now, and I’m sure some of them will be ‘sacrificed’ in term of screen-time. Plus, I kinda wish they would bring back the other mutants from First Class.
    There’s a good point from this revelation though: I hope Joss decided to scrap his script and rewrite it with Hank and Janet instead (that is, if he did really put Quicksilver and Scarlet in the script the first place) XD

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