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Mike says:

@Ken J

He did where a vest in the last movie, it wasn’t full body armor because it was basically a suicide mission for him.

Ken J says:

He wore one of those discrete ones that are kevlar only. No ballistic plates or anything. They are really only good for handgun rounds. The one in this film looks like a plate carrier.

Daniel F says:

The vest adds realism which is cool, but at the same time I just can’t get in to it. I think it looks terrible and I just leaves me a little sad. I liked just the short or maybe a vest under the shirt. I don’t know sometimes I get hung up on dumb little things.

Ken J says:

Any vest that can be worn under the shirt would not do much in terms of stopping rounds. Like I said, they only stop handgun rounds, but EVEN with handgun rounds, they will do a lot of damage, they might not penetrate, but the force of the impact will break ribs. Yes, people have died even when the vest stops the rounds.

Ballistic plates like the ceramic plates the miltiary uses prevent penetration and absorb a good amount of energy from rounds as big as .50 BMG if I’m not mistaken. But if you get shot with a .50 BMG, that concussion damage will kill you. But anything smaller like 7.62×39mm rounds from the AK47, 5.56×45mm rounds from the M16, or even 7.62×51mm and 7.62×54mm rounds can be stopped with those plates, and they will knock you down, but most of the time the person can recover from the impact rather quickly.

Here’s a good video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgLlHj4361M

I’m not 100% sure, but I think that was a shot from a Dragunov style rifle which fires the 7.62×54mm round. From what I hear, that soldier was fine, just had the wind knocked out of him.

If he had been wearing one of those “concealment vests” like the ones some undercover cops use, he would be dead. Rifle round would penetrate kevlar like a hot knife through butter.

Daniel F says:

Well that was a fun read. Most people already know this stuff. My point was in films realism is cool and all, but sometimes I’m attracted to the way things looks even if it’s slightly less realistic. I didn’t need vest training 101 again.

Ken J says:

Oh, my mistake, here I thought all of the bitching has been about not enough realism. Oops.

Nomad says:

AHAHAHAHAHAHA! ^^ I think you’re beginning to see the nature of the problem, Ken, and the futility of arguing it.

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