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greenknight333 says:

Mendoza Line I mean

Ken J says:

Lionsgate can never get anything right, lol. That might have helped the film for me though, I went in there knowing it was a Lionsgate movie…

Everyone except Ray Stevenson was pretty bad. But that was all I went to see it for, to see Stevenson mow down as many bad guys as they can squeeze into one film…

Ken J says:

You know, this film doing bad can mean good or bad things. Good is that the license might be sold out and Marvel will eat it up so they can make their own Punisher film in the future, bad in that they might go with a different actor for Punisher. Although I can’t think of anyone who would look as good for the role than Stevenson. There just aren’t enough actors with the right look who have the physical size to play the role. Tom Jane was much too small, looks more like a marathon runner than The Punisher…

790 says:

I doubt it Ken, Punisher is dead if this film bombs.

Its a two time loser,,, especially when the fans even recognise it for being entertaining only as a long as you know what you stepping in…
Direct to dvd would have been a smart move…
This franchise is done theatrically.

Ken J says:

Leave it to Lionsgate, lol.

But anyway, it’s only dead if no company is willing to spend the money on it. But this is MARVEL we’re talking about. They are not just some company looking for licenses to make money, they are where the comics came from, so they have a reason to want to make a Punisher movie more than just to profit. Of course to profit is the goal, but I’m sure if they are confident in their ability to make a good reboot that will get attention, all the while finally getting a good representation of one of their comics on film, they will do it. Look at Hulk. I know it’s not the same since it only failed once, but they can have the same reasoning with this one. A lot of people didn’t have confidence in the idea of another Hulk film, but due to good advertising and having a good actor in the starring role, Marvel was able to win confidence. Not to mention, the ones who were not won over by the advertising would have been won over by word of mouth once people watch it and saw that it was good. The same could happen if they make a better Punisher film. And seeing what Marvel has done so far, they will not get Lionsgate to produce it, so it WILL be better, lol. I just hope whatever happens, they keep the same actor. I hope Routhe staying as Superman will set a precedent.

Gary says:

What marvel might do is crossover Punisher with one of its already established film properies Like Spider Man and then from that Spider Man apperance Spinoff the Punisher into his own franchise again.
Didnt the Punisher premiere in Spider Man 129?
This might be a good idea after all.

790 says:

So let me get this straight Ken, do you think Punisher is better than Ghost Rider? (?) ;-)

Cause Ghost Rider’s got a better chance at a sequel at this point. Marvel’s got too much on their plate as it is,,,
You might get another Punisher in 10 years,,, :-(

Ken J says:

Um, considering that I thought Ghost Rider was not only bad as a movie in terms of acting/script/story/etc. but also lacked in any kind of guilty pleasures at all… At least this one had a protagonist I can identify with, not some idiot that sold his soul and rides around with a flaming skull, and handles weapons well, and kills every criminal a-hole he encounters. At least that part was enjoyable. I don’t have much respect for some long-haired motorcycle riding daredevil guy…

790 says:

I’m glad you put it that way Ken J, because what you thought is only your opinion…

Ken J says:

Um, isn’t what anything any of us say our opinions? If I’m not mistaken, right above the comment box it says: “What’s your opinion?” :-D

790 says:

Yep that’s why yours means nothing,,,, ;-)

Rock on Ken J,,,

Ken J says:

Yep, welcome to the club 790, lol.

Alfredo says:

Okay Vic you’re right. I’ll check out The Punisher.

No Name Face says:

Vic,
Your the man its nice to see that there are still pro’s out there who know how to review like with a un biased to the point review…
and Damn you nailed it. after seeing the “bloody trailers” i was not sure i was going to like this movie and it was going to have a Uwe Boll feel and look to it…
I am glad it is not and i hope to see this movie when i get a chance…
(Now to convince the pregnant wife…)
hmmm….

patrick says:

dang too bad they didn’t bring back Thomas Jane to be Frank Castle again

WAR-MACHINE says:

@ patrick.
dude seriously yeah Jane is good actor ,
but stevenson LOOKs the part .
you ani’t gonna get any closer frank then Ray Stevenson.

greenknight333 says:

This movie wasn’t even a guilty pleasure for me and I will never watch it again. Movie goers have spoken and they unanimously shunned this tripe. Good riddance…hopefully the property will fall back into Marvels capable hands and they can try and revive this dead franchise.

@greenknight

Marvel won’t revive this under their studio banner because they’ve said they’ll never go above a PG-13 rating for their superhero flicks.

Vic

Rob Keyes says:

There’s no point in Marvel taking the Punisher license because:

1) They can financially only self-make two features a year for the next 4 years, then they hope to move to 3. Punisher will never be a part of that.

2) As Vic says, Punisher is rated R, that’s not Marvel’s style.

3) Punisher is not even close to an A-list popular character for Marvel and he does not tie into the big planned crossovers (The Avengers or Fox’s X-titles).

I loved Ray Stevenson as Punisher and it’s too bad War Zone is getting owned at the box office because I would love to see more. Maybe we can get some Lionsgate straight-to-DVD followups?

like I said earlier, I really think that taking our those 3 stupid things would of made this film so much better.

MJ says:

Great review.

I thought I’d hate this film, It’s just not my style. I was dragged to it and was surprised by how much I got into it.

I wasn’t bothered by the acting, all that scenery chewing fit and Stevenson was perfect. Lexi wanted to make a big, bloody, over the top, violent comic book flick and that’s what she delivers.

It’s not high art, but I agree, It was fun. I was entertained.

Andrew Leslie says:

@Vic

Thanks for this indepth review. I believe the style of reviewing movies based on “context” works really well, expecially for the movies you mentioned above (2 out of 3 I own and cherish, and on your advice I will check out The Signal as well). It’s really too bad that some movies don’t get a fighting chance when other reviewers base them on “Oscar Worthiness” or “Artistic Merit” when that is not at all what they are about.

I’m a lot more excited about PWZ now, as I find my views on the films covered on this site are often pretty close to any of the reviewers here. I’ll have to make some time to go see it this week.

Thanks again and keep up the great work! This site has provided me some cool topics to discuss with the guys at work, and I make sure to turn people onto your site whenever I can.

@Andrew Leslie

Thanks, bro. That’s always great to hear. Spread the word about Screen Rant! :-P

Best,

Vic

Ken J says:

Patrick, if they had brought back Tom Jane, it would have somehow been even worse. Because then it will have bad acting, bad script, AND a Punisher that doesn’t look like the Punisher… At least with the way it is now, everything is bad, except we have a kick ass main character.

Zombie Bob says:

I liked the first Punisher movie but it had too much story for me. The new one had lots of over the top killings that rocked. The acting wasn’t as bad as everyone is making it out to be. Sure its not the best but come on.. the only actor that has to do a good job when it comes to killing lots of bad guys is the Punisher. I will buy this one and add it with the other comic book movies I own.

Ken J says:

I enjoyed the movie, but come on, the acting by everyone except Stevenson was pretty bad…

jimmy says:

i didnt find acting a problem at all except for the two policemen helping the punisher.

thats an overexaggerated complaint

INK says:

Thanks for the review Vic. I plan on seeing it Wednesday night.

Evie says:

Your review was exactly the same as I’ve been telling folks.

It was AWESOME. SO many ways to kill someone. Ray did a fantastic job IMO. One of the things that is important in me liking a film for the story is caring about the characters and I actually cared about them here (using a child always helps).

Yes, the LBJ and Jigsaw chars nailed it home that this was a comic book film, but otherwise, it seemed like a good old-fashioned JCVD :)

Sagac says:

This movie was by far the BEST Punisher film. It was a comic film done the way a comic film should be done, it brought me somewhere filled with death, guns and cool visuals. Excellent! The acting was OK, not too bad, but no one did extremely well. The only problem I had with the film was the fact that Jigsaw was a supposed mob boss, but he put in alot of footsoldier work. I didn’t mind it, just didn’t make me believe the realism, but his face getting stitched was realistic(?) Anyway, I do not recommend this for the weak of heart, but in my view its waaay better than just about any other comic film, save the Dark Knight (damn I love that movie)

Ken J says:

Well, the FBI agent wasn’t that bad, but Soap was horrible. LBJ was HORRIBLY HORRIBLE, or terribly terrible, either one, lol. And Jigsaw was just kind of annoying, and it was more the lines he was meant to say that were bad than his actual acting of it. But still not exactly a great performance either way. Microchip was pretty bad too, but at least it looked like he was trying to take it seriously unlike most of the other cast members. Ray Stevenson was the only one that both seemed like he was trying to take the role seriously and performed it alright. Some of his lines were kind of corny, but it’s not like he wrote it. He still delivered them in a serious manner and didn’t seem “goofy” about it like everyone else did. I don’t know, I felt like Stevenson was playing in a different movie than everyone else. He was acting in a serious ultra-violent action film with some drama while everyone else thought they were in a campy goody action/comedy…

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