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		<title>By: The Real Punisher War Zone Story - Screen Rant</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Real Punisher War Zone Story - Screen Rant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 00:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] behind the scenes of the production from the first draft of the screenplay, to the Comic-Con, PG-13 accusations and the revelation that yes, the movie will be rated R. I&#8217;m posting what I was sent unedited [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] behind the scenes of the production from the first draft of the screenplay, to the Comic-Con, PG-13 accusations and the revelation that yes, the movie will be rated R. I&#8217;m posting what I was sent unedited [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Punisher 2 Will NOT Be PG-13, Lexi Still Involved - Screen Rant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Punisher 2 Will NOT Be PG-13, Lexi Still Involved - Screen Rant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 05:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] for a cherry on top a couple days ago Latino Review reported that it was looking like Punisher: War Zone might be getting edited down to a PG-13 rating instead of an R by [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Vic Holtreman</title>
		<link>http://screenrant.com/punisher-pg13-niall-3431/comment-page-1/#comment-25579</link>
		<dc:creator>Vic Holtreman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 22:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to Nomad, there&#039;s a new post up regarding the PG-13 vs R-rating mess here:

http://screenrant.com/punisher-war-zone-pg13-rated-r-vic-3445/

Vic</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to Nomad, there&#8217;s a new post up regarding the PG-13 vs R-rating mess here:</p>
<p><a href="http://screenrant.com/punisher-war-zone-pg13-rated-r-vic-3445/" rel="nofollow">http://screenrant.com/punisher-war-zone-pg13-rated-r-vic-3445/</a></p>
<p>Vic</p>
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		<title>By: Nomad</title>
		<link>http://screenrant.com/punisher-pg13-niall-3431/comment-page-1/#comment-25556</link>
		<dc:creator>Nomad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 19:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I DID drop a note to Latino Review.  They recanted just a bit.  At least they manned up to the possibility their info was in error.  Here&#039;s a post fro somebody else you may find interesting.

I found this post over on the RAW Entertainment message board. Oh was I THRILLED to see it. It&#039;s from Steve Gainer, cinematographer for Punisher: War Zone for those of you who don&#039;t know. I know for a fact this post is legit.

Steve, this is the post that people from Lion&#039;s Gate SHOULD have made but didn&#039;t. THANK YOU, Steve. From the bottom of my heart, thank you! 

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Holy smokes, I go away and shoot some kids stuff for Disney, and the whole world is a different color when I return. Again I appear here to dispel rumors. Please believe: 

Lexi is not off the film 

Lexi is still involved in the edit process 

The film is not (nor could it ever be) PG-13 

Today I saw a cut that ran 91 minutes 

Lexi did in fact get married 

Lexi is an incredibly talented director, and this film kicks major ass, as will be proven when it is released IN THEATRES DECEMBER 5th 

The film is most certainly not all exploding heads, but will reveal a great deal of Franks personna and pain 

This film has been difficult from the begining, from a bitter Canadian winter, to endless nights, to rampant sickness, Lexi has fought to make a killer Punisher film for fans and non fans alike. 

Initially we were to release in September, but for whatever reason (not the quality of the film or edit IMHO) it was decided to release in December. That extra time has given everyone a chance to put their two cents worth in, but rest assured, Lexi is still stearing the boat, and she is a great captain. 

When I hear vicious unfounded troll rumors like the &quot;film was unwatchable&quot; or &quot;a total mess&quot; it makes my blood boil. I want to punish the corrupt. People sit on their fat asses trolling the internet, people that have never even looked through a motion picture camera, and make judgements on a work of art that they&#039;ve never seen, it&#039;s like saying a baby will be ugly before it is born, I can&#039;t freaking wait for this film to come out and prove the nay-sayers wrong. 

Sorry for the rant, I just love something wonderful you have yet to see- 

sg,asc 

http://rawstudios.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=55&amp;st=2060&amp; amp; amp;gopid=12162&amp;#entry12162 (Post #2062)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I DID drop a note to Latino Review.  They recanted just a bit.  At least they manned up to the possibility their info was in error.  Here&#8217;s a post fro somebody else you may find interesting.</p>
<p>I found this post over on the RAW Entertainment message board. Oh was I THRILLED to see it. It&#8217;s from Steve Gainer, cinematographer for Punisher: War Zone for those of you who don&#8217;t know. I know for a fact this post is legit.</p>
<p>Steve, this is the post that people from Lion&#8217;s Gate SHOULD have made but didn&#8217;t. THANK YOU, Steve. From the bottom of my heart, thank you! </p>
<p>******************************</p>
<p>Holy smokes, I go away and shoot some kids stuff for Disney, and the whole world is a different color when I return. Again I appear here to dispel rumors. Please believe: </p>
<p>Lexi is not off the film </p>
<p>Lexi is still involved in the edit process </p>
<p>The film is not (nor could it ever be) PG-13 </p>
<p>Today I saw a cut that ran 91 minutes </p>
<p>Lexi did in fact get married </p>
<p>Lexi is an incredibly talented director, and this film kicks major ass, as will be proven when it is released IN THEATRES DECEMBER 5th </p>
<p>The film is most certainly not all exploding heads, but will reveal a great deal of Franks personna and pain </p>
<p>This film has been difficult from the begining, from a bitter Canadian winter, to endless nights, to rampant sickness, Lexi has fought to make a killer Punisher film for fans and non fans alike. </p>
<p>Initially we were to release in September, but for whatever reason (not the quality of the film or edit IMHO) it was decided to release in December. That extra time has given everyone a chance to put their two cents worth in, but rest assured, Lexi is still stearing the boat, and she is a great captain. </p>
<p>When I hear vicious unfounded troll rumors like the &#8220;film was unwatchable&#8221; or &#8220;a total mess&#8221; it makes my blood boil. I want to punish the corrupt. People sit on their fat asses trolling the internet, people that have never even looked through a motion picture camera, and make judgements on a work of art that they&#8217;ve never seen, it&#8217;s like saying a baby will be ugly before it is born, I can&#8217;t freaking wait for this film to come out and prove the nay-sayers wrong. </p>
<p>Sorry for the rant, I just love something wonderful you have yet to see- </p>
<p>sg,asc </p>
<p><a href="http://rawstudios.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=55&#038;st=2060&#038;amp" rel="nofollow">http://rawstudios.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=55&#038;st=2060&#038;amp</a>; amp; amp;gopid=12162&amp;#entry12162 (Post #2062)</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Millan</title>
		<link>http://screenrant.com/punisher-pg13-niall-3431/comment-page-1/#comment-25554</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Millan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 19:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like they want to re-tool this for the Christmas season crowd(as well as a larger mainstream audience),for I&#039;ll just wisely wait till the Uncut,Unrated DVD version comes out in the Spring(&#039;09).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like they want to re-tool this for the Christmas season crowd(as well as a larger mainstream audience),for I&#8217;ll just wisely wait till the Uncut,Unrated DVD version comes out in the Spring(&#8217;09).</p>
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		<title>By: Siberia</title>
		<link>http://screenrant.com/punisher-pg13-niall-3431/comment-page-1/#comment-25369</link>
		<dc:creator>Siberia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 15:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope this rumour is just a clever way of generating buzz and getting comic fans behind the film</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope this rumour is just a clever way of generating buzz and getting comic fans behind the film</p>
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		<title>By: Vic Holtreman</title>
		<link>http://screenrant.com/punisher-pg13-niall-3431/comment-page-1/#comment-25327</link>
		<dc:creator>Vic Holtreman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 03:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it difficult to believe that the studio is dumb enough to try to shove what should obviously be an R-rated film into a PG-13 container.

Unless they so desperately think it&#039;s terrible that they&#039;re grasping at any straw to try to salvage it.

Vic</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it difficult to believe that the studio is dumb enough to try to shove what should obviously be an R-rated film into a PG-13 container.</p>
<p>Unless they so desperately think it&#8217;s terrible that they&#8217;re grasping at any straw to try to salvage it.</p>
<p>Vic</p>
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		<title>By: WAR-MACHINE</title>
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		<dc:creator>WAR-MACHINE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 02:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>please not PG-13.
the PUNISHER deserves a _R_ .
we need death,destruction,Gore &amp; mayhem.
it&#039;s the PUNISHER for god-sake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>please not PG-13.<br />
the PUNISHER deserves a _R_ .<br />
we need death,destruction,Gore &amp; mayhem.<br />
it&#8217;s the PUNISHER for god-sake.</p>
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		<title>By: Vic Holtreman</title>
		<link>http://screenrant.com/punisher-pg13-niall-3431/comment-page-1/#comment-25284</link>
		<dc:creator>Vic Holtreman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 21:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Nomad, nice to have you here at Screen Rant. Perhaps you should drop a line to Latino Review and see what they have to say about it.

Note there IS a question mark in the title of this post, and we&#039;re reporting it is not solid info.

Best,

Vic</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Nomad, nice to have you here at Screen Rant. Perhaps you should drop a line to Latino Review and see what they have to say about it.</p>
<p>Note there IS a question mark in the title of this post, and we&#8217;re reporting it is not solid info.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Vic</p>
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		<title>By: Nomad</title>
		<link>http://screenrant.com/punisher-pg13-niall-3431/comment-page-1/#comment-25280</link>
		<dc:creator>Nomad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 21:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That story never rang true to me. I believe THIS guy: 

There is a rumor that has started circulating around this little thing called “the internet” that Lionsgate is pushing for the next installment of The Punisher to be rated PG-13. Given all we know of the franchise, this immediately smelled foul. Not being without charms and fully utilizing our ruggedly handsome looks, we tracked down our own source who is, of course, “close to the production.” Their word? *beep* 

We could add some words in front of that, like “complete,” “total,” or “utter,” but it throws off the feng-shui of the post, but they would be appropriate. It looks like this originated over at Latino Review, who indicate that they have their own source. Now, I love those Latino Review guys, but I have no idea who they’re talking to. I do, however, definitely know our source and know that I trust them completely. Punisher: War Zone will be Rated R for Rambo-Levels of violence. Which is a good thing, because the kill count of Rambo (another Lionsgate release) was 236 and featured some of the best gore violence in years. 

Now, while being Rated-R, the film is still facing a troubled production run, detailed by our Neil Miller at the end of last month. Who knows what else is going on in making the film “presentable,” though it probably has to do mostly with timing. While our source is more than enough for me, for you kids keeping count at home there are a few other things to keep in mind. First, former Marvel Entertainment CEO Avi Arad (and current Marvel producing partner) Avi Arad has always said that The Punisher was one character who would carry the R-Rating at Marvel (the other being Blade). Second, producer Gale Anne Hurd spoke at great length at Comic Con about the film and stressed the level of violence that would be in the film. Lastly, the exclusive footage shown at Comic Con, which was very well received, was definitely from a film that was Rated R, and it was the point they were selling - brutal. 

In summation, this PG-13 rumor is total *beep* Punisher: War Zone is still not a ship sailing smoothly, but it will come to theaters with that Rated R stamp all over it on December 5. And just in case you need more evidence of the R-Ratedness, have a look at the clip below, which was launched a few weeks back at Comic-Con. 

http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/punisher-still-to-punish-in-r-ra ted-way.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That story never rang true to me. I believe THIS guy: </p>
<p>There is a rumor that has started circulating around this little thing called “the internet” that Lionsgate is pushing for the next installment of The Punisher to be rated PG-13. Given all we know of the franchise, this immediately smelled foul. Not being without charms and fully utilizing our ruggedly handsome looks, we tracked down our own source who is, of course, “close to the production.” Their word? *beep* </p>
<p>We could add some words in front of that, like “complete,” “total,” or “utter,” but it throws off the feng-shui of the post, but they would be appropriate. It looks like this originated over at Latino Review, who indicate that they have their own source. Now, I love those Latino Review guys, but I have no idea who they’re talking to. I do, however, definitely know our source and know that I trust them completely. Punisher: War Zone will be Rated R for Rambo-Levels of violence. Which is a good thing, because the kill count of Rambo (another Lionsgate release) was 236 and featured some of the best gore violence in years. </p>
<p>Now, while being Rated-R, the film is still facing a troubled production run, detailed by our Neil Miller at the end of last month. Who knows what else is going on in making the film “presentable,” though it probably has to do mostly with timing. While our source is more than enough for me, for you kids keeping count at home there are a few other things to keep in mind. First, former Marvel Entertainment CEO Avi Arad (and current Marvel producing partner) Avi Arad has always said that The Punisher was one character who would carry the R-Rating at Marvel (the other being Blade). Second, producer Gale Anne Hurd spoke at great length at Comic Con about the film and stressed the level of violence that would be in the film. Lastly, the exclusive footage shown at Comic Con, which was very well received, was definitely from a film that was Rated R, and it was the point they were selling &#8211; brutal. </p>
<p>In summation, this PG-13 rumor is total *beep* Punisher: War Zone is still not a ship sailing smoothly, but it will come to theaters with that Rated R stamp all over it on December 5. And just in case you need more evidence of the R-Ratedness, have a look at the clip below, which was launched a few weeks back at Comic-Con. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/punisher-still-to-punish-in-r-ra" rel="nofollow">http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/punisher-still-to-punish-in-r-ra</a> ted-way.php</p>
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		<title>By: G.K</title>
		<link>http://screenrant.com/punisher-pg13-niall-3431/comment-page-1/#comment-25262</link>
		<dc:creator>G.K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 19:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ohhh, the msting possibilities</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ohhh, the msting possibilities</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://screenrant.com/punisher-pg13-niall-3431/comment-page-1/#comment-25257</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 19:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If this film is not rated R, then I&#039;m not seeing it in theatre and not paying for the DVD. I guess it can&#039;t be a good strategy for them to do that then, because I think there&#039;s alot of people who feel the same.

All we want is the propper punisher film, it&#039;s been filmed. Let us watch it with some good music. That&#039;s all I want...pleaseeeee</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this film is not rated R, then I&#8217;m not seeing it in theatre and not paying for the DVD. I guess it can&#8217;t be a good strategy for them to do that then, because I think there&#8217;s alot of people who feel the same.</p>
<p>All we want is the propper punisher film, it&#8217;s been filmed. Let us watch it with some good music. That&#8217;s all I want&#8230;pleaseeeee</p>
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		<title>By: blipvert</title>
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		<dc:creator>blipvert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been really looking forward to this one. Am really curious on to how Stevenson pulls it off, however my interest is starting to slip a little with all the latest news. 

PG-13? for the Punisher? huuh?  That&#039;s like making a childrens version of a Hannibal Lecter story.

Pretty obvious this was started with the understanding that this was a marvel &#039;superhero&#039; franchise with no real knowledge of the character. 

Frank Castle is no superhero! This really should be a no holds barred R rated old school Tarantino type bloodbath. Anything else in neutering the character as far as I&#039;m concerned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been really looking forward to this one. Am really curious on to how Stevenson pulls it off, however my interest is starting to slip a little with all the latest news. </p>
<p>PG-13? for the Punisher? huuh?  That&#8217;s like making a childrens version of a Hannibal Lecter story.</p>
<p>Pretty obvious this was started with the understanding that this was a marvel &#8216;superhero&#8217; franchise with no real knowledge of the character. </p>
<p>Frank Castle is no superhero! This really should be a no holds barred R rated old school Tarantino type bloodbath. Anything else in neutering the character as far as I&#8217;m concerned.</p>
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		<title>By: The Mantis</title>
		<link>http://screenrant.com/punisher-pg13-niall-3431/comment-page-1/#comment-25249</link>
		<dc:creator>The Mantis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If they cut this to be a PG-13 film, I definetely won&#039;t bother. Especially after seeing the brutal redband trailer. It&#039;s the Punisher dammit! It&#039;s supposed to be violent as hell!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they cut this to be a PG-13 film, I definetely won&#8217;t bother. Especially after seeing the brutal redband trailer. It&#8217;s the Punisher dammit! It&#8217;s supposed to be violent as hell!</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://screenrant.com/punisher-pg13-niall-3431/comment-page-1/#comment-25225</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked the last Punisher film and I am hoping that the new film is as good or better than the former.  However, from what has been going on with the film, I think it&#039;s going to stink.  The last Punisher film I felt captured what the Punisher was all about.  Origins and final revenge for his family&#039;s death.  Any film after that is going to be tough to sell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked the last Punisher film and I am hoping that the new film is as good or better than the former.  However, from what has been going on with the film, I think it&#8217;s going to stink.  The last Punisher film I felt captured what the Punisher was all about.  Origins and final revenge for his family&#8217;s death.  Any film after that is going to be tough to sell.</p>
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