• rene
    Matt

    Bale is surpporting role you know.
    He spots on Melvin pulvis and pulvis's real family praise his performence.
  • My one concern with this film was Bale's acting. He seemed like he was just reading the lines, not being a certain character at all, and it really bothered me. He was definitely overshadowed by Depp.
  • Foopher
    "I actually enjoyed the rant that Bale went on, I got a pretty good kick out of it, then when they spoofed it on Family Guy it was even better!!"

    I too saw that on family guy and cracked up
  • 790
    Totally Librarylady, ;-)

    "Public Enemies" had its faults but overall I liked it...
  • librarylady
    790, Cool, I'll take that as a compliment. I'm going now--past my bedtime. See you in the comics, or maybe even the movies!
  • 790
    Don't piss off the Librarylady,,, ;-)
  • librarylady
    So we don't care for historical movies, but we insist that they be accurate if we mistakenly waste our money to see one. I've been pondering this evening while watching a tv movie (Hallmark Channel as a matter of fact) about the treatment of Geronimo and indian army scouts in Arizona that were rounded up and sent to Florida. Shameful history really. How many award winning movies would not have been made if all we wanted to see were horror films, cartoons, comic book characters, hobbits, wizards, and futuristic star wars. There's a place for all that, too, but leave some room for the film that leaves you with some knowledge of what we used to be. As for O Brother Where Art Thou, it couldn't have been made without a sense of the history of that time. George Clooney was as funny as I've ever seen him! You could save yourselves a lot of grief if you do a little homework before you head off to the movies. If it's not your "style", save your money for the next one.
  • JessSayin
    I wish I rented this one instead of blowing one of my Regal unrestricted movie passes.

    You were generous, Vic. I give it a 2.5 It wasn't bad...it just wasn't good.

    And historically inaccurate to boot.

    Save your money or wait for the dollar theater.
  • Firewalker
    Hi everybody,
    I had high expectations of this film. How could you not Dillinger, Baby face Nelson, Michael Mann, Depp, and Bale?

    Boy, was I disapointed all action,no character development.
    I need to care about a character before he gets shot even if was in the back. Everybody is raving about Depp's acting I thought he was mediocrate at best the character had no edge come on! your John Dillinger not Robin Hood. What happen to the edge he brought to Sweeney Todd.

    Bale- When did he stop acting, The Dark Knight, Terminator Salvation, and now Public Enemies What happen to the actor I saw in that little known film about the returning war vet trying to become a cop-what a great performance and very edgy.

    And what a waste of Baby Face Nelson Character- Did anybody see the Baby Face Nelson Character protrayed in "Oh brother where art thou" now that was a character?

    Did anybody review the dailies on this one?
  • John "Kahless" Taylor
    @librarylady
    I go to the movies to be entertained. We have books, the History Channel, Discovery Channel, PBS, and TLC for the real history. The movie did show some of what you posted but I didn't want to see how his relationship with Billie evolved, I wanted gun fights and tactics. While the movie was good in some areas, it bored me in others.
  • librarylady
    Here's the deal. When Dillinger was in business, smarmy J. Edgar Hoover was promoting the fledgling FBI to Congress.
    Purvis was Hoover's flunky who was supposed to bring glory to the new concept of having a national agency to go after criminals. Dillinger was quickly becoming a small time criminal robbing banks for chump change while the rest of the gangster world was moving on to bigger and better crimes. Purvis was not up to the task and IMO Bale played his roll correctly...unprepared and with a lack of ruthlessness. Hence, all the bungled shootouts. There was a lot more going on behind the scenes than one cop going after one gangster. As the FBI progressed and picked up tactics such as trading immunity for information and even beating up Billie for information, Dillinger was desperately brought down as a token sacrifice of what this brand new FBI under J.Edgar Hoover could accomplish. Meanwhile, the real public enemies were becoming behind the scenes organized crime that still exists today. Who were the real public enemies then? Who are the public enemies today? Want to know more about Hoover and the FBI? Google or better yet,
    get a book or two from THE LIBRARY.
  • John "Kahless" Taylor
    I saw it yesterday and agree that it should have focused more on Dillinger vs. Pervis. At times I was bored; I actually yawned and started getting sleepy. Someone also said it should have had a better soundtrack, and I agree. The acting was good but it should have been more Untouchables-like. I'd say 2.5, maybe 3, out of 5.
  • Doom3524
    I actually enjoyed the rant that Bale went on, I got a pretty good kick out of it, then when they spoofed it on Family Guy it was even better!!

    I am hopefully seeing this movie this weekend. I like both Bale and Depp (dont worry Ken, they arent the all mighty to me lol, actually Bale was terrible in the Dark Knight, it was all Ledger) so I think I will enjoy this movie.
  • I think he's becoming more judicious in his choice of roles, which is smart (particularly once associated with Batman) for a far-arching career.
  • Jago
    @ ken j
    Very true... Funny though that little by little he's becoming more of a supporting actor and maybe even just guest cameo with every film he does.
  • Ken J
    @INK

    Be careful what you say about the savior Christian Bale. He's behind only Obama in the can't say anything bad about him without flames department...
  • INK
    @Daniel F

    Bale had a "great performance"?

    I obviously didn't see the same movie. I thought Bale was actually horrible in the role. His accent was so distractingly bad my brother and I rolled our eyes as we watched him. I agree with your other points about the movie, however. Depp was very good and the lead actress (name escapes me) was good as well. Overall I give it a 6 out of 10. Decent rental, but don't throw down 7-12 bucks for it.
  • librarylady
    Sometimes, especially when a movie is promoted on tv, the hype is overblown. The best lines were in the promotion; I guess we wanted more of that when we put our money down. As much as I love Johnny Depp's face (all of them... since he is constantly redesigning himself), it made no sense to have so many closeups. My husband will never believe I said that. I'm through ranting now. Thanks for the discussion.
  • Daniel F
    Finally got to see it. Bale had a great performance, but his part wasn't written that well. The movie wasn't at all how it was sold. LIke others have said I expected a battle between Bale and Depp and instead we got a very sub par empty story. More focus on the romance that was uninteresting than the battle of wits. Ultmately I came out of the film filling pretty empty. Didn't care to much for the film which sucks because I was hyped for it. I will say probably Depp's best performance I have seen. I can't normally stand the guy, but he stood out in this film by acting different than he has in any other role. For the first time I felt like Depp was actually doing something different and I was impressed. Now he can go back to the crappy Pirates franchise.
  • Ken J
    Michael Mann has made some dumb movies but he's no slacker, I think he's a pretty good director. That was the only thing that kind of drew me to this movie.
  • Foopher
    J-Dawg, Bale, and Marion all gave wonderful performances, but i think Bale's character was just not... i don't know. it seemed like he was just there. But he is a great actor and he did a great job.
  • Gary
    librarylady ,
    Purvis reminded me of Kevin Costners portrayal Of Elliot Ness from The Untouchables .
    But The trailers and ads suggested that the film was basically a battle between Dillinger and Purvis.
    Thats What I was sold.
    Thats not what I got.
    So I was a little dissapointed with the film.
    But Michael Mann did a good job,
    He really captured 1930s Chicago quite well .
    It felt quite authentic.
    And as I said Depp and Marion Cottiard delivered some fine performances .
    So, ultimately those 3 things saved the film for me.
  • Agree with Gary! The intensity between John and Billie is the only true story thread that made me feel anything significant. I thought it was just me being a chick... ;)
  • librarylady
    But certainly an important bit part. Don't you think he disapproved of the tactics J. Edgar demanded of him? Purvis wanting to know what Dillinger whispered made him more human IMO. And for a woman(me)to hear those last words repeated to Billie was heartbreaking. We're suckers for a love story; there just wasn't enough of that story to get women back into the theaters for a second go round.
  • Gary
    Dillinger and Billie were the heart of the film .
    Purvis was a bit part.
  • librarylady
    To change the subject for a moment: just returned home from seeing the film. All this ranting about Christian Bale and who was great or good or so so. This movie was Billie's from the first we saw her. Maybe the "spark" that we feel is missing is that we did not see enough of her. There's the true loyalty. You can't trust honor and loyalty among thieves. And was Purvis really that kind to Billie? I'm glad we were given the chance to see the humanity of Melvin Purvis before he went back to completing his assignment.
  • Ken J
    @jago

    Yah, all of my friends that I showed that to commented that it sounded like Christian Bale, haha.
  • jago
    @ken j
    whoever impersonated him for the little bits when he said transformers or sweet cars did a pretty good job unless they actually found those audio bits somewhere... but that was hilarious as well...lol. Wish they would have used shia's screaming like a girl that he did in tf2... for a part of the transforminators trailer.
  • Ken J
    @Daniel

    All I said is that he has problems, and since when did that NOT start with what's going on? He still has problems! lol. Lots of people live stressful lives, yet only a few would have the energy to go off like that. Just like how so many people live in poverty yet only some decide to live a life of crime. Can't blame everything on your surroundings or your circumstances. But it's ok if you want to keep thinking that I'm the one that has to tell myself something to make myself feel better. I really can care less which celebrity is crazy, full of him/herself or not. You're the one that seems to need to defend him from all criticism...

    Eh, you know what it's ok, I'm sure you're right, Christian Bale is probably completely normal and I'm sure he's a really nice guy if you get to know him. Only way to know for sure is to meet him.

    @jago

    I personally liked when they used a clip in the Transforminators spoof trailer lol, that and Shia LeGoof's "Nononononononono!" lol
  • jago
    Normal or not... that tantrum was hilarious... especially the way that "family guy" used it...lol. I just wish i was there to see it... i'd still be laughing now. I just feel sorry for the dude that brought his beverages the rest of the day..."H-here's y-your c-c-c-coff-ee Mr. Bale"...lol.
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