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Ken J says:

Uuuhhhh, if you go off on a 5-10 minute tirade, you have problems. That’s not “losing your cool.” Losing your cool is accidentally yelling at someone or cursing at someone once, you SHOULD realize the mistake right away unless the other party perpetuates it into an argument. That’s not the case here, the guy he was yelling at was apologizing, everyone else was trying to cool him down, yet he just kept going on his own…

If you have done the same, I suggest going to therapy or just start taking the drugs now because you have problems…

It is not at all “normal.”

And I don’t know about you, but unless he just happens to have the most screwed up family in the world, I’ve argued with my sister and mother before, never was the cops called on me. But I guess since Bale is the famous one you’ll take his word over the word of two other people, but it’s ok… But for me, I know he looks down on others, so he’s definitely capable of taking a normal argument to the next level. But I guess that’s simply “impossible” according to some people…

Whatever, his acting is what’s important since that’s what we pay him for, MOST celebrities are a-holes who are full of themselves, don’t know why it’s such a hard thing to grasp just because it’s Christian Bale…

Daniel F says:

What ever you say Ken I say it’s very normal. Every person I have ever met has had at least one moment where they just lost it. By all means feel free to judge though I’m sure you know everything involved with the situation and everything that was going on in his life. You can properly judge him.

It wouldn’t be the most screwed up family in the world there have been plenty of screwed up ones that were worse. By the way his family dropped the charges the police declarred him innocent sided with his story his family even still talks to him and everything. The entire issue was cleared up and ended.

It’s not about it being Christian Bale it’s about judging people you don’t know. I defend most famous people when someone talks trash with out ever having met them or gotten to know them. Their famous so it’s easy to talk crap about them to make your self feel better.

Ken J says:

Wow, must be something in the water because nobody I know has even threw a 10 minute tantrum. We’ve all “lost our cool” before, my friends conside me to have the shortest temper, and all that means is that when someone pisses me off and I “lose my cool” I tell the person to his/her face that he’s an idiot or that she has no clue what she’s talking about or whatever. Even when I raise my voice, once I’ve said what I want to say, it’s done, no need to go on and on and on and on and on and on about it for 5-10 minutes. That’s utterly ridiculous, and same with everyone I know, I don’t know anyone, even people I don’t like, who have gone off on a tirade like that. He must have paused for a water break in the middle of that because I know my throat would have been parched half way through that speech…

Heck, I work in an environment where I see people when they’re not at their best all the time, and even people we needed to get the cops for haven’t gone on tirades that long. We usually call for the detail officer WELL before it gets carried on that long…

Heck, even counting baker acted patients that needed to be transported to the psych ward haven’t carried on that long in the three years I’ve worked here… Even they know to calm down after a minute or two…

So weird, and normal people where you live go off on 5-10 minute tirades and this is considered normal? We must live on different planets… haha :-P

Must be the wackos from the west coast… lol, just kidding 790 ;-)

Ken J says:

And it’s nothing to do with them being famous, I judge people the same regardless of their fame. If ANYONE, famous or not, goes on a 5-10 minute tirade, I think they have major issues. Someone must be really full of themselves to think they can stand up on a soap box and rant to someone for 5-10 minutes while they apologize to you. But I guess I’M the weird one for not blindly defending him just because he’s famous…

790 says:

Ken you should check out the film.”Swimming with Sharks” starring Keven Spacey…

You sound like you have lived a sheltered life.
Lol. ;-)

Ken J says:

LMAO, oh yah, very sheltered, HAHAHA. Oh man, where should I begin… Ah, don’t worry about it, no need to shatter any bubbles…

Daniel F says:

I’m not saying everyone I know does it all the time. I’m saying everyone I know has done it at least once. We just have had a moment where things in our life were not going so great and we were just having a horrible week and one person just pushed us over the edge.

If I’m blindly defending your blindly judging and insulting. I’m not putting anyone up on a peddastole here I’m just saying you have no interaction with these people and shouldn’t judge.,

790 says:

Oh don’t take it personal Ken J, Lol ;-) , I put the standard
Lol ;-) the same Lol :-) you always use…

Ken J says:

@Daniel, I’m just holding him on the same standard as I would anyone. So Fame hasn’t affected my opinion on him one bit, but you’ve already admitted that you defend famous people, although you’ve stated a reason for it.

@790
I don’t know why you’re so focused on the smileys, it’s like a weird obsession for you, you think they have more meaning than they really do, did your professor in Psychology 101 claim there was something to it? LOL

And I’m not taking it personally, I honestly thought your statement was funny. Unlike some others, when I use smiley’s or say lol or whatever, I actually mean it, I laughed reading that, so don’t worry, not offended or taking anything personal. :-) (oh nooes, what does that one mean?? haha)

790 says:

Whatever you say Kenj. ;-) lol

Daniel F says:

Ken him being famous has everything to do with what you are saying about him. Because if he wasn’t famous you would have no idea about anything that happens to him just like the 90% of the population that goes through their day never making it on to your radar. He is in the press so the mistakes that any normal person can make get put out in the public for everyone to see when he does it. The stress alone to try and appear perfect when everyone is peaking in on your life is enough to keep someone on edge. Two incidents compared to most celebs who are in the press every week for all the things they do I think says more about him.

Ken J says:

Whatever you say dude. I’m not even talking about frequency or anything, if anyone I know throws a tantrum like that (anyone over 5 years old at least), I will tell them they have problems, lol. But hey, if you think I should hold this guy at a different standard because he’s famous and goes through “stress” (since we all live stress free lives and all) I guess that sounds completely fair… :-P

It’s just funny that not all celebrities act in this way even though they are famous too… Strange… Must be his diet…

And you know, funny thing, you say famous people have their problems out in the public so you always see what happens, then you also say just how common it is for people to break out into 5-10 minute tantrums, yet how come we haven’t heard of any other celebrity doing it then? Common + publicity should mean we should see this all the time no? Stupid crew, they are slacking, need to bring us more recordings of every other celebrity breaking out into a full blown mental break-down… We need some free entertainment in this economy :-D

Daniel F says:

That’s not at all what I said. I never said hold him at different standards. I said you dont know him or what his life is like. I said you don’t know what was going on in his life at the time. I’m not talking about holding him at different standards. I’m talking about how you have a group of people that you know and in comparison to the entire world they are a very tiny group. People sometimes snap. Lots of things build up in your life and if you live to be 70 maybe you had one incident in your life where you just lost it and went off for 5 mins on someone. Most people have had something like that at least one time in their life.

Say what ever you want this is a pointless argument. Just continue to make your self feel better and go on with your day.

jago says:

Normal or not… that tantrum was hilarious… especially the way that “family guy” used it…lol. I just wish i was there to see it… i’d still be laughing now. I just feel sorry for the dude that brought his beverages the rest of the day…”H-here’s y-your c-c-c-coff-ee Mr. Bale”…lol.

Ken J says:

@Daniel

All I said is that he has problems, and since when did that NOT start with what’s going on? He still has problems! lol. Lots of people live stressful lives, yet only a few would have the energy to go off like that. Just like how so many people live in poverty yet only some decide to live a life of crime. Can’t blame everything on your surroundings or your circumstances. But it’s ok if you want to keep thinking that I’m the one that has to tell myself something to make myself feel better. I really can care less which celebrity is crazy, full of him/herself or not. You’re the one that seems to need to defend him from all criticism…

Eh, you know what it’s ok, I’m sure you’re right, Christian Bale is probably completely normal and I’m sure he’s a really nice guy if you get to know him. Only way to know for sure is to meet him.

@jago

I personally liked when they used a clip in the Transforminators spoof trailer lol, that and Shia LeGoof’s “Nononononononono!” lol

jago says:

@ken j
whoever impersonated him for the little bits when he said transformers or sweet cars did a pretty good job unless they actually found those audio bits somewhere… but that was hilarious as well…lol. Wish they would have used shia’s screaming like a girl that he did in tf2… for a part of the transforminators trailer.

Ken J says:

@jago

Yah, all of my friends that I showed that to commented that it sounded like Christian Bale, haha.

librarylady says:

To change the subject for a moment: just returned home from seeing the film. All this ranting about Christian Bale and who was great or good or so so. This movie was Billie’s from the first we saw her. Maybe the “spark” that we feel is missing is that we did not see enough of her. There’s the true loyalty. You can’t trust honor and loyalty among thieves. And was Purvis really that kind to Billie? I’m glad we were given the chance to see the humanity of Melvin Purvis before he went back to completing his assignment.

Gary says:

Dillinger and Billie were the heart of the film .
Purvis was a bit part.

librarylady says:

But certainly an important bit part. Don’t you think he disapproved of the tactics J. Edgar demanded of him? Purvis wanting to know what Dillinger whispered made him more human IMO. And for a woman(me)to hear those last words repeated to Billie was heartbreaking. We’re suckers for a love story; there just wasn’t enough of that story to get women back into the theaters for a second go round.

Gab & Dad says:

Agree with Gary! The intensity between John and Billie is the only true story thread that made me feel anything significant. I thought it was just me being a chick… ;)

Gary says:

librarylady ,
Purvis reminded me of Kevin Costners portrayal Of Elliot Ness from The Untouchables .
But The trailers and ads suggested that the film was basically a battle between Dillinger and Purvis.
Thats What I was sold.
Thats not what I got.
So I was a little dissapointed with the film.
But Michael Mann did a good job,
He really captured 1930s Chicago quite well .
It felt quite authentic.
And as I said Depp and Marion Cottiard delivered some fine performances .
So, ultimately those 3 things saved the film for me.

Foopher says:

J-Dawg, Bale, and Marion all gave wonderful performances, but i think Bale’s character was just not… i don’t know. it seemed like he was just there. But he is a great actor and he did a great job.

Ken J says:

Michael Mann has made some dumb movies but he’s no slacker, I think he’s a pretty good director. That was the only thing that kind of drew me to this movie.

Daniel F says:

Finally got to see it. Bale had a great performance, but his part wasn’t written that well. The movie wasn’t at all how it was sold. LIke others have said I expected a battle between Bale and Depp and instead we got a very sub par empty story. More focus on the romance that was uninteresting than the battle of wits. Ultmately I came out of the film filling pretty empty. Didn’t care to much for the film which sucks because I was hyped for it. I will say probably Depp’s best performance I have seen. I can’t normally stand the guy, but he stood out in this film by acting different than he has in any other role. For the first time I felt like Depp was actually doing something different and I was impressed. Now he can go back to the crappy Pirates franchise.

librarylady says:

Sometimes, especially when a movie is promoted on tv, the hype is overblown. The best lines were in the promotion; I guess we wanted more of that when we put our money down. As much as I love Johnny Depp’s face (all of them… since he is constantly redesigning himself), it made no sense to have so many closeups. My husband will never believe I said that. I’m through ranting now. Thanks for the discussion.

INK says:

@Daniel F

Bale had a “great performance”?

I obviously didn’t see the same movie. I thought Bale was actually horrible in the role. His accent was so distractingly bad my brother and I rolled our eyes as we watched him. I agree with your other points about the movie, however. Depp was very good and the lead actress (name escapes me) was good as well. Overall I give it a 6 out of 10. Decent rental, but don’t throw down 7-12 bucks for it.

Ken J says:

@INK

Be careful what you say about the savior Christian Bale. He’s behind only Obama in the can’t say anything bad about him without flames department…

Jago says:

@ ken j
Very true… Funny though that little by little he’s becoming more of a supporting actor and maybe even just guest cameo with every film he does.

Gab & Dad says:

I think he’s becoming more judicious in his choice of roles, which is smart (particularly once associated with Batman) for a far-arching career.

Doom3524 says:

I actually enjoyed the rant that Bale went on, I got a pretty good kick out of it, then when they spoofed it on Family Guy it was even better!!

I am hopefully seeing this movie this weekend. I like both Bale and Depp (dont worry Ken, they arent the all mighty to me lol, actually Bale was terrible in the Dark Knight, it was all Ledger) so I think I will enjoy this movie.

John "Kahless" Taylor says:

I saw it yesterday and agree that it should have focused more on Dillinger vs. Pervis. At times I was bored; I actually yawned and started getting sleepy. Someone also said it should have had a better soundtrack, and I agree. The acting was good but it should have been more Untouchables-like. I’d say 2.5, maybe 3, out of 5.

librarylady says:

Here’s the deal. When Dillinger was in business, smarmy J. Edgar Hoover was promoting the fledgling FBI to Congress.
Purvis was Hoover’s flunky who was supposed to bring glory to the new concept of having a national agency to go after criminals. Dillinger was quickly becoming a small time criminal robbing banks for chump change while the rest of the gangster world was moving on to bigger and better crimes. Purvis was not up to the task and IMO Bale played his roll correctly…unprepared and with a lack of ruthlessness. Hence, all the bungled shootouts. There was a lot more going on behind the scenes than one cop going after one gangster. As the FBI progressed and picked up tactics such as trading immunity for information and even beating up Billie for information, Dillinger was desperately brought down as a token sacrifice of what this brand new FBI under J.Edgar Hoover could accomplish. Meanwhile, the real public enemies were becoming behind the scenes organized crime that still exists today. Who were the real public enemies then? Who are the public enemies today? Want to know more about Hoover and the FBI? Google or better yet,
get a book or two from THE LIBRARY.

John "Kahless" Taylor says:

@librarylady
I go to the movies to be entertained. We have books, the History Channel, Discovery Channel, PBS, and TLC for the real history. The movie did show some of what you posted but I didn’t want to see how his relationship with Billie evolved, I wanted gun fights and tactics. While the movie was good in some areas, it bored me in others.

Firewalker says:

Hi everybody,
I had high expectations of this film. How could you not Dillinger, Baby face Nelson, Michael Mann, Depp, and Bale?

Boy, was I disapointed all action,no character development.
I need to care about a character before he gets shot even if was in the back. Everybody is raving about Depp’s acting I thought he was mediocrate at best the character had no edge come on! your John Dillinger not Robin Hood. What happen to the edge he brought to Sweeney Todd.

Bale- When did he stop acting, The Dark Knight, Terminator Salvation, and now Public Enemies What happen to the actor I saw in that little known film about the returning war vet trying to become a cop-what a great performance and very edgy.

And what a waste of Baby Face Nelson Character- Did anybody see the Baby Face Nelson Character protrayed in “Oh brother where art thou” now that was a character?

Did anybody review the dailies on this one?

JessSayin says:

I wish I rented this one instead of blowing one of my Regal unrestricted movie passes.

You were generous, Vic. I give it a 2.5 It wasn’t bad…it just wasn’t good.

And historically inaccurate to boot.

Save your money or wait for the dollar theater.

librarylady says:

So we don’t care for historical movies, but we insist that they be accurate if we mistakenly waste our money to see one. I’ve been pondering this evening while watching a tv movie (Hallmark Channel as a matter of fact) about the treatment of Geronimo and indian army scouts in Arizona that were rounded up and sent to Florida. Shameful history really. How many award winning movies would not have been made if all we wanted to see were horror films, cartoons, comic book characters, hobbits, wizards, and futuristic star wars. There’s a place for all that, too, but leave some room for the film that leaves you with some knowledge of what we used to be. As for O Brother Where Art Thou, it couldn’t have been made without a sense of the history of that time. George Clooney was as funny as I’ve ever seen him! You could save yourselves a lot of grief if you do a little homework before you head off to the movies. If it’s not your “style”, save your money for the next one.

790 says:

Don’t piss off the Librarylady,,, ;-)

librarylady says:

790, Cool, I’ll take that as a compliment. I’m going now–past my bedtime. See you in the comics, or maybe even the movies!

790 says:

Totally Librarylady, ;-)

“Public Enemies” had its faults but overall I liked it…

Foopher says:

“I actually enjoyed the rant that Bale went on, I got a pretty good kick out of it, then when they spoofed it on Family Guy it was even better!!”

I too saw that on family guy and cracked up

My one concern with this film was Bale’s acting. He seemed like he was just reading the lines, not being a certain character at all, and it really bothered me. He was definitely overshadowed by Depp.

rene says:

Matt

Bale is surpporting role you know.
He spots on Melvin pulvis and pulvis’s real family praise his performence.

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