Reactions to Ridley Scott’s Prometheus have been all over the map. Many people are embracing the movie for its ambition, while others have expressed frustration over how (infuriatingly) close the spinoff came to being a proper Alien prequel. A noteworthy number of people are having far more extreme reactions, judging by the number of claims online about Prometheus screening walk-outs.
As was discussed during the SR Underground ‘Prometheus’ Podcast: the important thing is that virtually everyone who has seen Prometheus has been very passionate in their response (be it enthusiastic or enraged). If you subscribe to the school of thought that there’s no such thing as bad publicity, then it’s near impossible to argue that the moviegoing masses won’t (at the least) consider a sequel to Prometheus as something they want to see. Going by the early global box office returns, 20th Century Fox is likely to heed those wishes.
So where do you go with a sequel to a film that’s literally about… well, everything? As anyone can tell you (including, Scott and co-screenwriter Damon Lindelof), Prometheus raises more questions than it answers – be it about the mythology of the greater Alien universe or the cyclical nature of creation, destruction, and evolution, as explored in the movie. Obviously, in order to touch on what details the filmmakers have announced so far, we have to venture into spoiler territory.
DO NOT CONTINUE READING IF YOU HAVEN’T SEEN PROMETHEUS!!!
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In a recent THR interview, Scott had the following to say about Prometheus:
“From the very beginning, I was working from a premise that lent itself to a sequel. I really don’t want to meet God in the first one. I want to leave it open to [Dr. Elizabeth Shaw (Noomi Rapace)] saying, ‘I don’t want to go back to where I came from. I want to go where they came from… Because [the Engineers] are such aggressive f**kers, I always had it in there that the God-like creature that you will see actually is not so nice, and is certainly not God. I’d love to explore where [Dr. Shaw] goes next and what does she do when she gets there, because if it is paradise, paradise can not be what you think it is. Paradise has a connotation of being extremely sinister and ominous.”
Check out one of said Engineers (via Rope of Silicon) below:
The 'Sacrificial Engineer' in 'Prometheus'
Ultimately, the connection between Alien and Prometheus was as tenuous as the cast and crew of the latter had insisted throughout the build-up to its theatrical release. Hence, it’s no surprise to hear that Scott intends to carry on the central narrative thread left dangling by the ending of Prometheus with a sequel – rather than concern himself primarily with filling in lingering holes in the tapestry that links Prometheus to Alien. Is it possible the followup could accomplish both tasks, in spite of that?
In order to break down that question, let’s first examine two big plot elements that should be covered in a Prometheus sequel:
The History and Culture of the Engineers
By the conclusion of Prometheus, very little information has been provided about Engineer culture. As Elizabeth Shaw (Noomi Rapace) voices aloud before setting off to the Engineer planet with David (Michael Fassbender) – or, rather, David’s severed head – there is much to be explained in terms of where the creatures came from, and what inspired them to create humanity in the first place (before attempting to eradicate it).
Furthermore, there is a whole lot of ambiguity surrounding such issues pertaining to how many planets the Engineers have populated with life via rituals similar to that portrayed during the opening minutes of Prometheus; whether Xenomorphs are regarded as higher-evolved beings and (essentially) worshipped as deities by the Engineers, as one could interpret from the presence of a Xeno-like carving in the Ampule Room on LV-223; and if the Engineer’s decision to manufacture black goo material that transforms other sorts of organic life, is the true allegory for the mythological tragedy of the demigod Prometheus overstepping his boundaries.
The Xenomorph carving in 'Prometheus'
The Relationship Between Elizabeth Shaw and David
When we say “relationship” between those two characters – who were also the most fully-realized and engaging players in Prometheus - we’re speaking both literally and on the figurative level. By the conclusion of that film, David’s “creator” Peter Weyland (Guy Pearce) has perished, and is thus no longer around to command the android. Does that mean Shaw will now become David’s “god,” or are the two on more equal footing – a pair of explorers out to uncover certain truths about the universe, rather than a master and their servant?
During an interview with Time Entertainment, Lindelof addressed that very topic:
“I think they’re going where [Shaw] wants to go. [David's] fundamental programming has been scrapped. Weyland [the man who built and programmed him] is dead and so now his programming is coming from God knows where. Is he being programmed by Elizabeth, or is it his own internal curiosity now that Weyland isn’t telling him what to do any more? He’s always been interested in Elizabeth, remember that: He’s watching her dreams when she’s sleeping in much the same way that he watches ‘Lawrence of Arabia’. He’s a strange robot that has a curious crush on a human being, and when Weyland is eliminated, I think he is genuinely interested in what she’s interested in. He reaches out partly for survival, but partly out of curiosity, and I think he’s sincere that he’ll take her wherever she wants to go.”
Prometheus disposed of the less interesting characters – along with those whose primary purpose was to explain how Elizabeth and David came to be on their personal space odyssey, and an explanation for their mindsets at the outset of that journey. It will also be interesting to see how the dynamic between that duo (an actual human being and anthropomorphized machine) unfolds in the sequel, and how the relationship ultimately reflects upon and parallels that of Elizabeth and her “creators.”
David eyes a slumbering Elizabeth in 'Prometheus'
In summation: a Prometheus sequel could certainly branch out beyond the realm of being an Alien spinoff, so as to move closer to establishing a science-fiction mythos that stands on its own. However, over the course of doing so, the film has the potential to also provide more backstory on the Xenomorph, along with the history behind how one Engineer crashed on LV-426 – and, inadvertently, unleashed a dangerous new species similar to the monster(s) birthed on LV-223. Ironically, that means a sequel has the capability to provide Alien fans with something closer to the answers they were seeking from Prometheus, while also fully succeeding where its predecessor fell short: being a satisfying, standalone work.
Bear in mind, Scott is about to commence with shooting on The Counselor, so don’t expect to hear news about a Prometheus sequel being put on the fast-track for production in the immediate future. However, so long as the final box office total is satisfactory for Fox (re: results in a profit), everything else is in place for the project to happen.
What are you hoping to get out of a Prometheus sequel? Do you even have an interest in seeing one? Sound off in the comments section.
Meanwhile, Prometheus is currently playing in theaters around the world.
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Source: THR [via Worst Previews], Time Entertainment, Rope of Silicon
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I believe the Engineer in the beginning was cast from his home in Religious exile and found a planet that could support life(Earth)where he made a sacrifice to create a new survent to the Gods.Who are these Gods?The other Engineers where on there way to destroy OUR creators vision and something went wrong in the process.Maybe the Creator left signs for us that early man found and knew about the stars.Another thing i noticed was the date they arrived was Dec,21 which is the date of our supposed demise.Don’t know what to think of that?
I get what you’re saying and it makes sense to me. We see the ‘engineers’ ship about to fly away as the engineer is walking out to the edge and it seemed like they were leaving him as a form of punishment or banishment. Either that or they knew what he was about to do and knew he would die in the process so there was no need to stick around.
In the beginning the sacrifial engineer drinks the black goo, which breaks down his body and allows his DNA to be spread forth in the water creating life. We then are on Earth with the archeologists who find the wall drawings all before the birth or appearance of Jesus Christ. We later find out that the “Engineers” want to destroy their creations on Earth. Could it be believed that either Jesus was an “Engineer” sent to Earth? And if so, are the “Engineers” upset that their creation killed him? Or could the “Engineers” be upset that their creation believes in a God that is not them? This is all speculation on my part, but think back to when Dr. Shaw asks David for her cross and puts it back on and then wants to continue her quest to find where the “Engineers” came from. What do you think?
In fact one of the artefacts with the constellation engraved on it dates from 600 CE, meaning post-Roman contact with the Engineers.
I think his name was Dave, and no one liked him. He was one of those guys that talked too much, was a one-upper, and laughed too loudly when he walked in on the tail end of a joke. His co-workers said, “Hey Dave, this is a cool new planet we just discovered, go down there and we’re gonna take a picture of you doing jager bombs!” “Awesome idea dude, I’m gonna totally get naked too!”
Little did Dave know they slipped him an Engineer rufie.
Except that they arrived on Christmas. Or did you just happen to miss the big Christmas tree that the Captain put up? Or how it was mentioned at least twice that it was Christmas day when they got there?
I’ll say it 1,000,000 times, out of a pure quest for congruence, James Cameron should direct Prometheuses.
noooooooooooooooooooooooo
James Cameron and short-sited executives are responsible for taking the most innovative scifi genre ever imagined and turning it into a joke. He shouldn’t be allowed near a camera. Ridley Scott must have been fuming. Once it had started to slide it just got stupider and stupider. I cannot bring myself to watch any of the Alien sequels,though I did get conned out of hard cash the first time before I realised what was going on. If its not Sir Ridley making the sequel I will not be wasting the time effort and money Let this fool ruin another Scott project? When the revolution comes you’ll be first against the wall! I wish Dan O Bannon had been alive to see Prometheus, he would have been so proud!
I’m just so freakin ENRAGED with this movie!! it was so awesome, but at the same time INFURIAITING because… now we have to wait 2 or 3 entire years for a sequel! I mean come on! what a way to swoon the masses! I was so excited to see this movie, SOOO EXCITED, I loved it but hated it at the same time. It just keeps asking for more questions instead of answers. How can you make such a great movie and leave us dangling for more?? COME ON!! It got me very excited, but felt like I got any in return. I HATE YOU RIDLEY SCOTT.
hahaha…Same here dude
I’m just so freakin ENRAGED with this movie!! it was so awesome, but at the same time INFURIAITING because… now we have to wait 2 or 3 entire years for a sequel! I mean come on! what a way to swoon the masses! I was so excited to see this movie, SOOO EXCITED, I loved it but hated it at the same time. It just keeps asking for more questions instead of answers. How can you make such a great movie and leave us dangling for more?? COME ON!! I just got so excited but felt like I didn’t get any in return. I HATE YOU RIDLEY SCOTT.
If this thing on the wall. killed the other jockeys, where did it run off to? Why leave the area where the food is? so what they ran behind the door. Besides the one jockey who was beheaded by the door body was somewhat intact. Or did it or they die off.
It was also establish that the Xenos were created to die off after infestation and impregnation, this where the jockeys and the writers went wrong.
The Xenos werent designed to make it past chestbursting stage. But they did and this is why the jockeys were overran because their weapons failed
The engineers were scientist probably working on genetic mutation. If they left humans on earth as genetic experiments, then how many other planets did they leave species/humans with their DNA on? So, with a matching DNA and several planets hosting evolved creatures of their DNA, their mission probably involved planning to see what a complete Genetic takeover of the Black goo would do to the earth. Why? After the Flying saucer left the earth like moon, they probably assigned those scientist (engineers) to work on this cutting edge black goo off site from their home planet anticipating extreme genetic/DNA based impacts. To conduct an experiment on that level is reason enough to not experiment with genetic/DNA altering materials on their home planet. Why? To keep their species safe.
In science, we don’t conduct an experiment once to validate results off of one scenario. Instead, we must examine multiple situations to validate results.
Why the stars of the location home? If said experimental species (humans on earth) is to ever evolve to be able navigate space, the engineers had to leave a way for them to phone home or in this case, phone the lab.
Clearly the black goo caused a problem on the moon that the engineers were working on, killing many engineers and going by the evidence, the black goo did not create life for this moon, it only killed/mutated life with the exception of one. The creatures that lived in the water on the ship, the precursor to the face huggers. Therefore, a form of the “Alien Species” (HHG’s Alien) may have evoled and replicated killing many engineers. After the engineers were able to contain them, they built that U shaped ship to take to earth and observe a complete hostile takeover of the black goo mutation purely for observational science and no other need.
This answers why the engineer smacked the old man. The old man though he was meeting our “Gods” and in hopes of finding ever lasting life from a god that could save him from dying. Instead … you had a militant engineer that had one mission of delivering the goo to earth to see what would happen to a planet from a scientific perspective. Therefore making the old man irrelevant and speaking to society that even the richest and most powerful person is still a mere mortal man. Just as the Android on board the Prometheus was told by Elizabeth’s husband. “They created him because they could.” That’s my take.
Yeah it felt to me like Weyland thought he would be speaking to a diplomat or leader or something. This Engineer was a guy stuck on a planet with a ship full of bio-weapons. Probably a soldier. It’s like sneaking into a top-secret government facility and asking the trained killer guarding the lab about the meaning of life. It’s not going to end well.
I assumed that the last engineer that fell and was beheaded was female, based on the way it was running. But if the jockeys were all supped up on steroids and had muscles where no man today has muscles i would assume that the females would appear like a bald kim kardashian
Ok, so up until this movie the space jockey in the chair in “Alien” was fossilized. Now after 30 years, he’s not. It was a suit. So am I to believe that a suit fossilizes? This is where i yell B/S!!!!
They even say it in the movie,
Beserker…. the space jockey was on a different ship which crashed on a different planet. All the catastrophic events on LV-223 and LV-426 happened 2,000 years ago, which is why the space jockey was fossilized. In Alien it was kind of obvious that a xeno burst out of his chest. Most likely the space jockey was a survivor (to an extent) of the “event” on LV-223 and in flight succumbed to this Alien infestation. The main question to me is why didn’t the Engineers return to LV-223 or investigate LV-426 in the last 2,000 years. Did the “event” wipe them out? Did they abandon the facility deeming it too dangerous to return?
Maybe they heded the warning the jockey left on lv-426 and unlike humans when we hear a warning, we head straight to the danger zone.
Maybe the “jockey” found on lv-426 IS Elizabeth shaw?
Good call Megafauna! I like this theory because that leaves all the ships on the same planet originally, lv-223, which makes sense. Why would they need to set up these installations on other planets? And so the ship on lv-426 was originally from lv-223 but they flew it off. Maybe it’s not Shaw who got “fossilized” tho.. maybe it’s another engineer they encounter in the next movie who was stowed on the ship they leave on.
I was thinking that too. And yes, the ship would have held engineers in the other three stasis beds that had not been awakened yet. You also have to account for the fact that time is not the same for those traveling close to the speed of light as it is for the rest of us.
As so many have said: the thing that is most puzzling to me is the mural of the xenomorph on the wall in such an image of reverence.
If the engineers tinkered with DNA enough till they developed the ultimate fighting machine then why also frame that creature of war in the way that they did in that mural? This is the biggest burning question in my opinion. Perhaps the xenomorphs aren’t meant to be weapons at all. Maybe they are supposed to be some utopian genetically superior creature that was supposed to be super fit for survival… an attempt at perfection that went terribly wrong.
(Did anyone else bust a gut laughing in the theater when the head exploded after they tried to make it talk? I couldn’t handle it. Hardest I have ever laughed in quite a while.)
I want them to explore The Engineers homeworld, who they are and why they created humans and what caused them to suddenly decide they needed to be eliminated. I think they should leave the xenomorph as a sub-text, it doesn’t appear, as of yet, that they have a significant role when it comes to the Engineers grand plans. Or maybe the xenomorphs are their way of eliminating their creations and it got out of hand for them on LV-223. So many possibilities, but I hope they focus on Shaw and Davids mission and not the creatures.
If you remember in the movie the captain of the Prometheus states clearly “This planet was a bioweapons base for them and it got out of control and they quarantined the whole planet”
I think the engineers bio-engineered their biological weapon from the genetic structure of the xenomorphs and knew the only way to create a superior xenomorph would be to use their own DNA as hosts to advance the xenomorphs. So, instead of sacraficing their selves, they create us, wait until we evolve enough and then when we are ready use us as hosts to create this weapon with out sacraficing any of the engineers or jockeys.
WHAT PROMETHEUS WAS ACTUALLY ABOUT?
Read this! Prometheus scriptwriter Damon Lindelof has also linked to this review from Twitter and added ‘I love the way you think’…
http://cavalorn.livejournal.com/584135.html
I saw the movie again last night ( coz a friend wanted to see it for the first time so I accompanied him) and it was just as bad the second time!
If you have to write so much literature to explain the “interwoven threads” of this film so that people can understand it, then the movie has failed!
I’m not religious, but an alien Jesus?? Oh dear!!
The script is just bad and over edited- if you have to reference another epic in a film, then the film is not an epic. I am a fan of Ridley Scott but I think everyone might be suffering a case of the Emperors New Clothes …
I saw this movie not knowing it was an alien prequel and loved it so I disagree! It’s stands alone well. I actually LOVE the fact that it raised more questions than answers and I knew there’d be a sequel as soon as it ended. I quite enjoy a mysterious movie that causes you to watch over and over again just like Donnie Darko and the Matrix.
sorry if this sounds like a dumb question i have posted this in other threads but wanted to get some takes on it .. is it possbile that the thing that popped out of the engingeers chest at the end is the anti christ???
My Take:
X- amount of years ago (millions?) a engineer created life on earth through sacrifice. That was the opening scene–
When the humans land they say the events that happened, happened 2000 years ago… they created us millions of years ago and decided to destroy us 2000 years ago.
What happened on Earth 2000 years ago? What if they were disappointed with the human race and they sent a “messenger” to us. Then we crucified him. (nice one humans) They were so upset with us they decided to wipe us out before the s*** when down. Now we evolved to the point were we found the engineer sleeping and he was pissed off.
“So they have been to earth before?”
“Yes, sometimes to create life. Sometimes to destroy life.”
First, I’m gonna put my own picture in a cave for this blog discussion so more will come, as found by Google search of the internet galaxy: Prometheus sequel Jesus angel engineers alien demons
Now my response…
Good story-telling always mixes sci-fi, lore, religion and all that.
Scott and his screenwrite simply chose Christianity.
I have to give them high marks for this because very few will dare to touch Christianity.
I’d give them even higher marks to have the guts to dare to make a sci-fi movie using components of the Islamic faith, but I’ve digressed from my response.
Following the time-line and assuming no time-debt for near or greater than speed-of-light travel, 2000 years ago would have been Christ’s crucifixion. I only think of that because in the movie, there is a writer’s cue where they mention some fact related to that date and one character lifts their head and says “Jesus Christ” as in “I’m surprised”, not as in recollection. But still it is a cue.
When you start to look at the opening scene that way, you get a vision of the first Engineer in robes. The robes and his behaviour give the appearance of one trained in religious ritual. He is albino-skinned and bald, often the sign of a eunich in history. Angels are genderless. He is dropped off by a ship and sacrifices himself to create mankind. The other “Engineers” are also bald and white-skinned.
The Engineers are basically angels. The ones that sacrifice themselves for mankind come across as “Jesus”, relative to Earth’s stories of them.
2000 years ago one died while delivering a new covenant and a promise to return.
Seems like Judgement had been passed since a ship was then stocked with chemical warfare only years after the event on Earth.
Revelation talks of Jesus return and sure enough, more bald white-guys are coming back to Earth.
One will look like Jesus when he arrives to the masses that will see him.
The angel of death will be with him (black goo = the queen alien)
The aliens just represent demons/anti-Jesus/Christ.
It’s all just symbolism:
White/bald Engineers = God/Jesus
Genetics = holy spirt (within us all)
Many ask why the black goo affects all differently.
Well, read revelation and other apocalyptic writings and the common theme is that some will be chosen, some will not.
Turns out, the delivery boys weren’t all up-to-snuff to deliver the holy spirit.
A bit of cosmic karma irony.
Who will be holy enough to deliver the goods to earth without dying from the infection and what the humans on Earth will become this time around is what remains to be seen in the sequels (I hope).
I dont remember any sign saying “Earth welcomes careful drivers” or any specific landmarks like the Grand Canyon or any view from space that you could identify the Earth from….how do you know the engineer at the opening sequence was being dropped off on Earth by other engineers? He could just as easily have been the last survivor of the losing side in a catastrophic war, being dropped off by the opposition….if you assume, you make an ass of u and me (as opposed to a xenomorph).
Prometheus isn’t supposed to explain where or how the Xeno’s came from, it’s more of an off-shoot or a story that is linked to the original Alien. The timeline is too great to bridge the gap. Evolution would need to take place from the Prometheus Xeno’s to the Xeno’s as we know or see today.
I would expect a couple of sequels in the storyline prior to the arrival of Nostromo’s crew, remember the Nostromo was a salvaging ship and was not built for exploration. In order for us to see the bigger picture, there has to be some kind of link between David and Elizabeth and the crew of the Nostromo in order to make timeline complete. Maybe Ripley was a descendant of Dr. Shaw or something …
I was very delighted in Prometheus, lots of stunning visual effects, the feel of the whole “enormity” or how small we really are in the grand scheme of things. I am (still) a fan of the whole Alien franchise (including the Predator series); I think it was the right move to end the Predator versus Alien thing because in the end the Xeno’s would win (they are all about survival rather than technology or cool gadgets). Xeno’s would morph into anything they can latch on to (ie humans, dog, fish, Predators etc ..)
In conclusion, I am excited to see where the franchise will go from here .. I hope the next films will be as dramatic as Prometheus and Alien.
The Xeno derives from life on LV-223, the worms from the soil (under the vases) and humans and other lifeforms before Prometheus arrives (some sort of octopus creature). The one Engineer that survived was probably their last hope if everything went “sour” to destroy all evidence but instead was woken prematurely and he recognized by whom, since he doesnt want anything leading back to their home planet instead dials (our) planet (by instinct or prior knowledge).
The Engineer from the start of Prometheus is sacraficed to start “life”, for what reason it is unknown. I liked the idea that all Enginners are basically the same template, like a canvas painting, plain, white, same muscle features and face. Will Weyland be responsible for creating the Xeno’s we know today to pay back the Engineers for damage he’s done to their supposed “timeline”?
I think the most likely way a sequel will pan out is that when Shaw and David get to the engineer home planet they will find it ravaged by some sort of engineer civil war. Maybe the war broke out over a rogue faction of engineers who created a life form in there own DNA which was forbidden. I think that would leave a lot of room for cool monsters created by the engineers for war.
1. the alien from LV223. could be the same from LV 426? couldn’t it? it looked the same, the only missing part was the tail, and in the adopted “life” of an alien, they usually burst out of the chest with a few missing pieces and start shedding skin to really look like what they are supposed to. Look at alien chest bursters, they are missing lots of lembs, and are REALLY small, all they need is like an hour and boom, they shed lots of skin, grow at a TREmendous rate and then become themselves, maybe this does actually explain how xenomorphs came to be?
what we do know, there was some creature that killed of the engineers, we have NO idea where it went, Now there is an alien “look alike, unfinsihed new born” on lv 223 left, with some 10 more engineer space ships left? what happened to the crew of those space ships? and maybe that, what i assume to be an alien queen, going to do if it finds some “meat”?
now with what i said whitch was really just a bundle of random words, there are two possibilitys in my opinion, 1 the earlier alien that killed off, “or maybe jsut the gue killed them all” chased another engineer/jockey into another space ship, jockey thinks he escaped from it and takes off, likely thought he “locked” the doors before he got into the command room for take off, it then attacks hims, it goes into him, makes a queen, it lays a bunch of eggs in a circular pattern “much like how the vases were and exactly where they were place” then ship crashes, into lv 426 it escapes the ship, and creates the hole in the side that the guys go through to get into the ship in the original “alien”
or two, the creature we see in the end, becomes the actual Alien Queen, just had some maturing to do…, goes into another 1 of the 10 other ships looking for food wakens the other possilbe engineers in the other ships, or ship, she gets on board one ship has some fun, lays some eggs kills the crew, and impregnates the jockey, jockey trys to kill it and crashes ship into nearest planet, lv 426, nothing happens because the ships are made at the toughest material that isn’t yet known to man, creates some holes for the alien queen to go through and she leaves and maybe a predator says hello sexy, and something happens…,
in the end, when there are more questions to be answeared after a movie when you want to make more u succeed, Ridly Scott succeded in being able to go ANY direction he wants to, either going of this movie and going back into the alien franchise, or more into that direction, maybe making more types of alien xenomorphs, maybe we meet the beginning xenomorph that looks like the creature on the wall in the first gue places…
I have seen this film 5 times. I don’t why it struck such a chord
in me. I love the characters, the story, the idea that we can find
our creators.
I sure hopr a sequel comes forth.
I think the engineer at the beginning performed his self sacrifice a long time ago as a reboot for his race. It is possible that the engineers wiped themselves out using their biological weapons. The engineer that sacrificed himself went to that planet hoping to give his race a chance to get it right. So they secretly went to a planet… earth… and the one gave himself for all the others. It is possible that the engineers in Prometheus were guarding the stockpiles of the genetic weapons to make sure they did not get used and found out about humanity. maybe some faction within the engineers found out what had been done and thought that humans would inevitably one day repeat the same horrible mistakes. The engineer that was the survivor may have sabotaged the others and was attempting to head to earth to destroy humanity. It could be possible that he may not have known were earths exact location was.
Didn’t anyone in this movie ever watch the x-files? Don’t touch or drink the black oil!
I think the aliens at the beginning of the movie were a different sect, or religion than the aliens that existed on the moon prometheus visited. The cloak, the ceremony, the strange way the spaceship oriented (like a cross) itself all seemed to be a religous ceremony of offering up the “body and blood … the resurrection of the dead after sacrificing ones life into new life”. Jesus could have been an engineer of the same sect. His life and death followed the same type of ceremony. The aliens on the later moon, I think were a different sect (they did not wear robes, even different kind of a spaceship – isolated to create their own religion) that worshipped a sort of “anti-christ” figure (the xenomorph in a cross-like pose). Perhaps this sect was hell bent on getting to earth because the Jesus engineer was on the verge of spreading the faith (the original aliens faith) throughout the entire planet. They needed to put a stop to it by bringing their deity (the serpent-the anti-christ) to the planet to take over. Then it all went bad in some accident. Or perhaps Ridley Scott is just messing with us by filling his movie with Jesus symbolism.
I think you’re onto something. I have another post on this page with similar ideas.
symbolism and historical anecdotes go hand in hand, so why not?
keeping with the symbolism idea, lucifer was cast out from heaven and man cast out from Paradise?
your first religion is basically god and angels, your second is lucifer/Satan and demons.
I hate tying it back to Christian ideas, but the parallel is strong and always makes for a good story. It kinda worked for Matrix…kinda…
where do the Preditors (alien vs. Preditors) figure into this and their usage of the xenomorph creaturs… did they buy them from the engineers and use them like game quayle.
mahi525i: The AVP movies have nothing to do with the alien series, james cameron himself said that fox have completely screwed it up by making them
The engineers are a futuristic version of PETA who want to save the endangered xenomorph species. The created synthetic eggs from some vases and arranged them like a queen would arrange eggs in put them in big terroforming incubators.
was there even any alien fighting in this film? I`m disappointed that they seperated alien and predator although both those films sucked and were short and lazy i wish they have a film running over 2 hrs 15 min. excluding credits come on, is that too long? the longer it is the more they can fit in it`s just one film. after they make up to a few of these independent alien and predator films i think i think they should rejoin the two. just because something didn`t work in the past means it`ll never work?
when i said “both those films sucked” i meant the AVP films. make those films rock again. i think alien is just a mindless killer that kills any non-self-species organism for no reason but predator is smart and has a mind. i`m glad there doing these films independently so that the humans can take`em on themselves for a challenge but i`m disappointed with how AVP turned out an I want to see a BETTER ONE! where`s a site which i can talk about this? because i know there`s also another predator film coming as a sequel to the one 2 years ago.
“make those films rock again”-i meant rise on the screen again and rock!
Like a lot of people I was absolutely blown away by the Prometheus trailer. With Ridley himself at the helm of bringing back the Alien franchise I thought it was in safe hands. What could go wrong? A lot, it turned out. Take away the performance of Michael Fassbender and the excellent effects, I can see why viewers found plenty to criticise.
Here’s my personal reflection on seeing Prometheus. Ridley wasn’t bothered about who he partnered with for the writing, or was he? Fortunately he has a sympathetic ear when it comes to prequels…
Enjoy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLtkUuHNmmw
Thank heavens Lindelof is leaving the sequel; his hack writing, Internet flogging and inability to develop ideas, let alone bring them to any sort of conclusion, turned “Prometheus” into “Lost – in Space!” I have never been so disappointed in anything with Ridley Scott’s name attached to it.
I loved Prometheus! I thought the story was great, it left the mind open to think about the creation of life. I thought the way it lead into the “alien” being was perfect. It made sense .
I would love to see a sequel that builds on the Engineers origin and possibly gives us insight into how the alien species was created. I don’t need to see that part fleshed out for now, but maybe in a later film. The possibilities are as endless as the stars…