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5 Simple Changes That Would Make ‘Prometheus’ Better (For Fans Of ‘Alien’)
by Vic Holtreman
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There has been a lot of debate regarding the connection between Prometheus and Alien. Some people think it's enough that Ridley Scott's latest film takes place in the universe established by his original (and fantastic) film way back in 1979, while others feel that Prometheus should have been a more proper prequel that gives answers to some of the unanswered questions from the original film (read our review).
The purpose of this article is not to debate the merits (or faults) of Prometheus, or to suggest that answers about The Engineers be answered - rather it is to present five very small changes that could have been made to the movie (and would not change the storyline at all) - that would have made it dovetail perfectly with the original film.
Needless to say, there will be plenty of spoilers for not only Prometheus, but Alien as well.
The purpose of this article is not to debate the merits (or faults) of Prometheus, or to suggest that answers about The Engineers be answered - rather it is to present five very small changes that could have been made to the movie (and would not change the storyline at all) - that would have made it dovetail perfectly with the original film.
Needless to say, there will be plenty of spoilers for not only Prometheus, but Alien as well.
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@Ben- The predator sttod a foot taller than Arnold (Dutch) in Predator. The guy in that suit was actually 7 foot 2. The CGI in the film The Space Jockey stood at least 2-3 feet over David, so these things stood taller than the predator even in novels they were huge at least 10 feet tall. Maybe you should check your source material smart guy before you speak. And the way that Space Jockey was handling that squiddy thing, it caould be said that it had great strength, like the predator. I know my s***!! Richard1!!!!
Those Dark Horse comics and novels don’t really have any bearing on these movies. The Predator stuff you keep mentioning really doesn’t either, the last Predators movie even had larger variations of the Predators. This stuff is all make believe and every movie alters something, and for the most part they have all ignored a lot of what was in the comics.
This isn’t that serious though, we get it you didn’t like the movie.
all of this is make believe
I actually like what Prometheus did. If the producers of it don’t call it a prequel, then this stands alone in the same universe and is just tied closely. It leaves room for sequels for the story path it created, which also has a road to the alien saga that we know. There could be many branching sagas. My only problem with the film is that the characters were written in a way that seems stupid for their professions, there actions in contradiction to smart practices, and their reactions written to get from point A to B, when some other triggers could have been logically written. I just lost a lot of respect for the characters, downgrading my review of the film.
I agree. Those small actions that made no sense took me out of the movie much more than any “deviations” from an imagined prequel story line. A biologist reaching out to pet an unfamiliar life form…puh-leeze.
A second sequence that took me out of the story is the exertions the main character took within minutes of major surgery. I just couldn’t get my head around that.
As I watched the movie I was hoping there would be a more definative connection with the original Alien. All five sugesions are teriific.
I agree, those suggestions would have really left me with a better feeling at the end of the movie. When they didn’t say LV-426 in Prometheus I thought. Remembered it wrong….now I know I as right
See all of those things would be required if this were the one and only prequel. Fox is making at LEAST one more. Everyone knows that. Therefore, through the simple logic that you seem to possess, they can’t have it end where Alien began. I don’t see why everyone is so upset… The movie wasn’t a typical prequel and we as Alien fans now get more new mythology and new ideas and new worlds to go along with. I don’t see how this is a bad thing and how people are so up tight about it all
I think fans are upset because the crew only takes shotguns and flame throwers in space in the year 2089 or 93.
That a woman aborts an alien fetus and tells no one.
A scientist wants to play coochie coo with an alien snake
the typical woman falls and gets killed by a falling object after running in a straight line
she trusts an android that help put a alien embryo inside of her and wouldnt help her get it out
there were no subtitles as to what David was saying to the space jockey, so he couldve said anything.
And if there is a sequel, it may spend more time answering questions as to what happened in the first movie as oppose to who and where the space jockeys came from and why everyone thinks they want to kill man
“there were no subtitles as to what David was saying to the space jockey, so he couldve said anything.”
I like to think that he said “do you like my hair”
IMHO this movie has so many problems, I shall treat it like the “other two” Matrix movies and pretend it doesn’t exist.
Amen!
They could have bookended the Alien part of the story and then moved on to do something completely different (which seems to be what they want to do).
Vic
Better? No. More of a prequel? Yes. These are all seriously bad ideas that are so obvious they were no doubt considered and rejected in order to create a larger universe.
I AGREE!! Those are all ideas that would better a bad AVP3. How about you just watch it for the original story with some Alien “DNA”. Go watch Alien 5 if you want the same story. Ugghhh!
Totally agreed.
Thank you exactly what i came to say
True Alien and Aliens fans wish they wouldve never saw this movie and just stuck to the trailers. “WE WERE WRONG….WE WERE SO WRONG!”
Speak for yourself please.
The depiction of the Space Jockey is so off base. If you google SPace Jockey and see the images. Most of those images are the same and they look nothing like the space jockey in this movie.
Just look at the space jockey in the chair in the “Alien” movie, its are are so long, no where near the muscularity in this film
Prometheus (fore-thinker/foresight) had a brother Epimetheus (after-thinker). A kind interpretation of the movie is that the humans represent Epimetheus (who did after all had a Homer Simpson appeal) whilst the Engineers are as true Prometheans accomplish great things but are still punished by their own deed(Prometheus created man from clay, took fire from the gods to give to man, but was eternally punished by the Gods by having his liver eaten daily…). A less kind interpretation is that Epimetheus wrote the screenplay.
I’m no ‘Alien’ fan… but I’m a fan of another alien, Superman. And being a fan of Superman, it’s normal for me to expect and see more of his movies. If the people reading this article are really ‘Alien’ fans, don’t you think it would be great to see more of this movie universe? I mean, ‘Prometheus’ was designed so that sequels could be established. Had it been that ‘Prometheus’ followed what this article suggested, then there’d be little room left (or no room at all) to create sequels.
And I also, being an ALIEN fan, would be the happier for it.
@ Fan, I agree. Ever since I saw Alien I always wondered about the jockey in the seat and now the door has been open to the grander universe. I always wondered why no other Alien movie cared to touch on the jockey subject…I would think the company or the other characters may be interested in the intellectual life that is ever so present in a big freakin spaceship. I mean talk about plot hole esp. when you consider all four Alien movies, they span over ~250 years and the jockeys are never mentioned.
there will never be a sequel for this film!
All of those possibilities could be good as well-however for me it wouldve been so “on the nose” that that it would’ve felt a little like baby formula. I like that there are still gaps and conjunction possibilities. Not everything explained. Dr. Shaw’s path took her on to a further search while this “new alien hybrid” eventually leads us to the NOSTROMO event. Even what isn’t “laid out flatly’ leaves me with more wonderment and fantasy that makes me giddy and shivering.
I’m okay with the options and forks in the road:)
I concur!! well put!!
I wouldn’t be so sure about the end of Prometheus directly leading to the events of the movie Alien. My take is that the xenomorph lifecycle from the Alien movies came about from a completely different lifeform than human+engineer.
Well.
Im a mixed bag here. i was stoked for the movie and have been a big alien franchise fan for years. I even like the first AVP movie (the 2nd was horrendous!)
We really enjoyed the movie (i went with BBBubby – alreet fella!) and we both really enjoyed it. there are a couple of odd bits that i might change (the annoying mohawk fella was annoying – alien planet and new lifeform and he decides to run back to the ship… really?) but the movie was a great experience.
Im definitely stoked for 1 or 2 sequels and maybe the last will end up crashing on LV 426. its such a great universe im glad we might get a few more movies.
I still think Vickers might be an android (is she married? why isnt she Meredith Weyland if she is Weyland’s daughter?) and might be in the sequel. her butt looked too good not to be in that outfit any more!
Anyway, well done Ridley. some people might not like it but they are very vocal. IMDB has you at 7.5 which is pretty decent. Dont take years for a sequel. im sure they have a rough plan already done.
The premise of this film is fantastic and the questions it asks are fundamental to our very existance, who made is and why do the want to kill us. The Sumerians wrote down nearly 6000 years ago (and where the Greek legends are derived from) that an advanced race created us in their image and as we grew into many, we became a threat to them.
I believe that the engineers in this movie also fear us and as such put in motion a plan to destroy us. My problem is the over complex methods chosen, which highlights the contrived and transparent script by mr(hack) Lindehoff. The film is not worthy of the often brilliant and inventive speculation shown in this thread simply because of the following..
1: The Engineer shown on an unknown planet watching a massive ship leave orbit. He drinks some black goo and it breaks down/destroys his dna. What happens next is either a ritual suicide or an intoduction of dna into the ecosystem. But in an overly complex way. why not just pour the dna into the water supply?
2: The film cuts from Dr. Shaw finding the cave paintings to arriving at the planet which jars and speaks of cutting room floor exploits.
3: The script again lets us down by not fleshing out the crew who remain soulless throughout the film and not even representitive of thier characters i.e. the baffling lack of scientific protocol used by the supposed scientists? There are even crew members who only appear at the end of the film (Weylands guards).
3: Why have Weyland fake his death, what purpose did it serve?
4: The decision by David to infect Charlie with an unknown substance and let him back on board the ship does’nt make sense at all. Too dangerous to his master Weyland in cryostasis!
5: Shaw’s Character is all over the place script wise, from seeing her husband killed to birthing a monster without saying anything to anybody?? Not to mention running around after having her abdominal wall severed and stapled!! The list goes on and has been referenced by others already.
6: If the facility is one big trap as some have suggested why so needlessly complex? What were the Engineers running from into that room and where were the rest of the bodies. Where were the lifeforms from the bodies with burst chest found elsewhere in the facility.
One thing that did strike me was that the engineers all looked the same! When David speaks to the newly awoken Engineer he reacts violently by ripping off his head. Is he affronted by an artificial lifeform or is he reminded that he is also, i.e. a clone?
I am all for leaving things open for the audience to decide i.e. the ending of Inception, but the unanswered questions and poor script logic in this film should not have gotten past the first draft!
the list you have here is why fans are so IRATE about htis movie. do we expect the sequel to answer the new questions or the old and what happens if or when the old questions are not answered. Is that what the 3quel is for?
How and why did the squiddy thing grow so large. Why didnt the Engineer make a sound.
And how after 30 years did they go from space jockeys to now Engineers? Is it because of someone who has been out of the loop for more than 30 years said so or is because of the garbage writer from lost
1 – he needs DNA and uses his own. we assume this is a baron planet with no life bar plantlife. the black goo only seems to work on negative people/feelings
2 – eh? little point in a 30 minute chat with weyland and powerpoint demo… i agree maybe a couple of shots but maybe thats the director’s cut.
4 – maybe they thought it was the only chance. maybe david either didnt care (seems a bit like that) or weyland wanted to risk it at all cost
5 – yes, odd behavior but she was full of painkillers and i guess adrenalin was going mental at that point. not defending that par se as it was odd.
6 – i dont read it as a trap.
agreed its not perfect but i enjoyed it and i hope to see more adventures of shaw and david.
1. Overly complicated? This draws on several parallels with many different religions around the world. Death creates life, man is made in God’s image, and so on. We can deduce from this scene that the Engineers created DNA for mankind (specifically mankind) with a near-direct copy (or mutated form) of their own DNA. It also shows the Engineers’ heavy investment in mankind. I would also like to point out that this DNA-conversion “black goo” is not the “black goo” we see coming from the jars later in the film.
2. There was a lot to tell in this film, much of it new, and you really want spend time watching the voyage play out like in every other sci-fi flick? I don’t. Every Alien film avoids footage of Earth, and it was granted that most of this film would be set in space or in a spacecraft. To see some footage of Earth, still in existence/occupied by people that look and act like us/etc, was a nice touch, lending light on how far preceding the events of Alien this film was taking place.
3. There were many more characters in this film than in Alien, and the viewer simply can’t get intimate with all of them. That’s what the DVD special features are for. Baffling lack of scientific protocol? Are you a scientist? The biologist in this film certainly wasn’t the first biologist I’ve seen wanting to observe, connect with, or “tame” an animal. You have to remember that this is the very first encounter with an alien lifeform for mankind… The biologist present for the encounter would be expected to get super excited about it! Biologists on Earth charm snakes and crocodiles and let insects sting them simply to experience the creatures! You also need to remember that he’s not going to be afraid of something that he has no indicated reason to be afraid of! Did he watch Alien like you did? Did he hear the ominous soundtrack playing in the background like we did? You also need to remember that most predatorial creatures don’t approach their prey, get in close to them, and then just stand still, seemingly observing. It’s unnatural behavior for a predator, its more like the behavior of an intelligent being. That’s what’s so great about Alien, it functions totally differently from all other creatures. Instead of its eggs hatching and little harmless chicks stumbling out, a full-on explosion of doom is unleashed! It’s unexpected. Put yourself in the biologist’s shoes.
3?. Weyland didn’t fake his death. He purposed that he would probably die by the time the team reached the planet, surmising that he probably wouldn’t be tagging along. He may have decided in the last minute to change plans, who knows? Who cares? He remained in hypersleep until the living Engineer was found because his awakening would both lead to his death (if the living Engineer wasn’t found), as well as compromise the mission.
4. If you saw Alien, you know for a fact that Weyland androids were “twitchy” in their earlier models. Bishop (in Aliens) tells us about the older models, specifically Ash (in Alien), being an untrustworthy “synthetic.” It’s pretty clear that David, presumably a model far earlier in production than Ash, would act erratically with questionable behavior.
5. She was pumping herself full of drugs through the whole ordeal, her adrenaline was pumping, I mean she was just impregnated with a terrifyingly enormous alien parasite. She’s in survival mode. You can’t expect her to have a clear head of… what to discuss with her shipmates? Things were also happening terribly fast, if she had any conscience she was also probably feeling humiliated by David’s treatment of her. Charlie, her husband, was just incinerated alive because he was infected with an unknown disease. Yeah, I would expect her to be all over the place. Anyone would be.
6. The facility wasn’t a trap. The film suggests it’s a staging area for an assault. There were multiple facilities further down, each with a ship. The Engineers that were seen running were running from the Engineer chasing them. We could assume he was infected (perhaps one of many that were infected) and that they decapitated him at the door (maybe even with the door).
Questions deserve answers, which means more movies. This is a good thing. Discussion is a good thing. The very fact that you are asking questions is proof that you were engaged in the movie. It’s like that movie 500 Days of Summer, everyone loves the movie because it was “so true,” even though everyone (or maybe every guy) secretly, truly hates the situation the film depicted, either being reminded of similar situations they’ve experienced or simply for the fact that Zooey Deschanel’s character epitomizes every terrible female we’ve met and Joseph Gordon-Levitt’s character epitomizes our oblivious stupidity. I think you enjoyed the movie, and every squashed tomato for Prometheus on Rotten Tomatoes is simply someone wanting to whine about their impatience for the next film.
There is absolutely no point to this article. I hate these inane lists debating useless topics. Stick with news and reviews.
@gingerchops – If you “hate” them so much then why did you click on it and read it? Oh, THEN take the additional time to comment?
Paul Young
To call out some displeasure with the existence of this discussion about whether Prometheus is a prequel or not. I don’t think the folks of Screenrant (which, I just mention, I consider a fine source for news and opinion) should be wasting their time with this kind of useless speculation, especially AFTER the movie has been released. I think it’s totally unproductive. Even if you disagree, that’s a valid point, and there’s no need for you to throw a little hissyfit because one of your readers disliked one of your articles.
Wow what utter crap. 1. Prometheus is setting up for a potential sequel so none of this could have been put into the movie anyway. 2. If any of these suggestions were put into the movie it would be crowbarred into it with no subtlety at all purely for fan service. The ending of the film was pure tripe already with the alien bursting out. I was happy with the light connections to the Alien movie because more often than not, less is more.
maybe, you were wrong….. so wrong?? I think the movie was right!
personally, I think this movie was almost perfect in production and metaphorical content.
I also think there are 2 more installments before we get to ‘ALIEN’ (1979)
and at least 2 more genetic modifications of the actual creature, before we see the xenomorph we all know and love
also check out the character traits of the main characters…. and the personal ‘demons’ (or serpents, or sins, or ‘xenomorphs’) they carry ‘inside’ of them, that are just itching to ‘POP’ out!?! and WHY they die! and check the character traits of the survivor(s) dude!
incidentally…. Elizabeth Shaw, could never have been infected directly by the black goo….. (once you get this, you will get the film) go back and listen to what the people say and how they behave to EACH OTHER and who they are, and why they are actually on the mission to start with and their PERSONAL reasons for being there. It is all explained clear as glass, maybe your vision is just clouded??
which brings me to my next point…….
Is a metaphor (as all the alien films are) for purity of reason!
AND of pure unconditional love and respect for yourself and your fellow man, and the entire ‘verse … for seeking the ‘truth’ without greed and ego and anger, etc, blocking your vision and if your vision of the truth is blocked by these personal demons while you are searching.. you will die! (you will become infected by them and they will POP out when you least expect it LOL)
am I giving you a clue?
No offense intended….. I tells em as I see’s em!
Pure imagination is faster than the speed of light! you may do well to remember that! (especially for part3)
or you can just watch the preview over and over and over and…… you get the point! or maybe you dont!
Fish On!
x
I think that you were in the lower percentile of folks who thought this movie was great
I have no concern for the percentages driven by film ‘gurus’
and in that respect am glad to be in your lower percentile
I wish that people could see films through my eyes and thought processes.
then they would maybe recognize and appreciate the messages woven in by very clever and dedicated storytellers/movie makers.
I bet some of the guys in the higher percentile thought that Star Wars was just a flick about some dude with a glowing sword and his buddies kicking intergalactic ass! and in one respect.. it is!
There is only 1 story to tell ever….. once you ‘know’ the story, you will recognize it everywhere!
the trick is in telling the same story in as many different and original ways as possible… and this has been achieved with this film!
even if the metaphors are a little deeply buried for some.
just like there are only 12 musical notes (chromatic scale)… 7 of these work together in a musical scale…. but just look at how many songs/compositions have been created using those 12 ingredients, actually, just using a combination of the 7 of 12!
PROMETHEUS ROCKS DUDE in more ways than you can apparently appreciate! but you will
one day 
as always no offense intended
I tells em as I see’s em
peace and joy!
Sir, thats why we have our own eyes and our own minds. Not saying that the film was a total disastr, it was well lit, you could see everything, unlike previous alien films.
few people saw it the same, some cared less about the metaphors and messages and just wanted the simple basics. Give me the simple answer, dont write a thesis about why stake is chewy
that being said, i saw what i saw and what didnt see what i wanted to see. This movie, the writer and ridley scott failed.
Its not about you and/or your vision, and like everyone else, i paid my money so i am entitle to feel anyway i choose to feel about what I thought was going to be a colossal film.
point taken, however I do think that there is a lot more to it than some folks writing in this blog have seen.
a million people will see it in a million different lights…. and to be honest there is no simple answer, just a personal perspective.
and that is what Im trying to write, Im not trying to tell you what ‘you’ saw Im trying to tell you what ‘I’ saw and how they seem to be 2 completely different movies… I am in the UK atm, so maybe theyre showing something else where you are (only kidding dude!)
Im sorry (not that its my fault) you feel ridley scott and the writer has failed you
I feel as tho both writer and director excelled themselves
just one mans opinion!
the only other thing that would anooy me with some of these theories is the God/devil refences.
are the Xeno’s truly Evil, i would say no, i would say, they are behaving beased on their natural design. Do they have free will, I doubt, they do what their designed to do.
Maybe God said the hell with man and since the death of christ has left us to be who we are.
Is man evil or Good? Man is who he chooses to be
So when people say the Space jockeys are angels and or the xenos are the devil r demons, i find that unrelated. Those who believe in the bible should know that there are Angels who dislike man and can not stand mans existence, but tolerate us simply because GOD said so.
I see your points, i just dont agree with them
so just a thought and sorry if this sounds dumb ..BUT ….is it possible that the queen xeno is the anti christ ? .. while the enginers appear to be angels ????
there are no dumb questions…. just dumb answers!
so heres a big fat dumb answer!
hmmm, I dont see it as the Queen being the antichrist etc.
in this respect tho, the xenos are simply the manifestation, in the flesh, of evil, resident in man. so the queen is kind of the source of the evil….. but in alien/aliens mythology etc the queen comes from man.. is the age old cyclical argument! chicken/egg etc
I think the point is that it doesnt really matter where the evil comes from as long as it is defeated somewhere
there are 2 types of engineer in the film… the scientists (creators)(at the beginning) and the space jockeys (military/warring)(on the ship)
so they could be viewed as both angels and demons from a given perspective
I think Hudson got it right… were on an express elevator to HELL! going down! woooooooooooooooooo hoooooooooooooooo
Here’s my list of 5 things to make Prometheus better.
1.Fire Lindelof
2.Don’t make SJ humanoid
3.Hire a different composer for the score
4.Make the movie longer
5.Drop the amount of characters and smarten them up, drop the dumb crap
1. Steven Zaillian and/or William Monahan, Jon Spaiths, Joss Whedon, jonathan nolan. (zaillian and monahan have worked with ridley twice and are great writers)
2. hans zimmer or trent reznor and atticus ross should score it.
3. knowing ridley, there’s obviously going to be a director’s cut and he said that there will be 20 – 30 minutes of deleted scenes which would make the film to 144-154 minutes long. which i hope the sequel would be because this story is too big and complex to a 124 minute picture.
4. besides shaw,david,janek, holloway and even vickers, there weren’t any interesting characters as there was in alien and aliens. hell the rest didn’t even come close to dillon and clemens from the 3rd one.
That’s about as many interesting characters as Alien. I though Lambert was nothing more than a whining pain in the ass.
It’s obvious all the major beats in this film were originally set up to explain the space jockey, so the only question I want to know is why they changed their mind. It was obviously late in production, so what purpose did it serve?
I realize they want to make a sequel, but that means they’d need to have almost the exact same thing happen again. Another identical jockey crashing another identical ship into another identical moon.
They could’ve easily left the Alien connections in place, making this movie a more direct prequel, while still having a sequel. The sequel would take place on Engineer home central, and what happens there simply has no major effect (if any) on the rest of the series. So it’d kind of be like Prometheus serving as story one for two different branches existing in the same universe.
Instead now we’re either going to be left with two films that have the same ending, or no film that ties perfectly into Alien.
I don’t care about “Prometheus” having a tighter connection to “Alien”. Were “Prometheus” just as smart as “Alien” or “Blade Runner” I’d be satisfied. Instead we have a road-trip slasher in space no better than any other teen horror flick except for production value. It used tired hackneyed plotting to get to the space gore. If another director shot from that same script no one would be defending this thing. This thing was hugely disappointing regardless of its connection to “Alien”. Ambiguity is fine if its earned not forced.
You’re argument could be a word for word copy of critical reaction to Alien. After all, despite it’s excellent direction, score (the weakest element in Prometheus), casting, and art direction, Alien is a B-grade spooky house horror flick with characters doing stupid s*** and getting picked off one-by-one. It borrowed HEAVILY from 1950s sci-fi horror flicks. The only original thing about the script was that the leading men die first and the woman is the hero.
I agree with you on all of these points. From the information we’ve been gathering it would also seem that Jon Spaiths first draft contained most, if not all of these elements you have brought up. We know for a fact that his script presented the original xenomorph. The “art of Prometheus” book also clearly states that the film originally was set on LV-426.
And then Lindelof came in and changed it into the mess that it is now. Ironic, isn’t it?
Guys, dont you all feel cheated when they mentioned that they totally disregard the AVP universe as collected all 7 of its movies titles so far???
BTW that dead corpse spacejockey from 1st Alien still looks a lot bigger than those “Engineer” in Prometheus as though their size are not being consistant.
not really. it was never intended the 2 to mix, IMO. plus, AVP2 is a horrendous film and should have never happened. and im saying that as someone who enjoys the first AVP movie
http://cavalorn.livejournal.com/584135.html
that link is well worth a read. lots of subtle things i had never thought of
@ LiamT, you should see if they can psot that article. To a certain degree, this is how I viewed the film.
I also think the water mixing with the degredation of the engineers’ infected body played a role in the creation.
Also, I believe that there is a difference in the route of infection by the black goo, such as ingestion or external exposure.
@ deacon, No I do not. I have never accepted those movies as “canon”, heck I don’t even consider the Predator movies to be related to the Alien movie franchise. They only thing that combined them was the Alien skull at the end of Predator 2.
I thought Dark Horse decided to throw these 2 together and see what happened and they received a successful crossover. If we are to look at all the books and comics as “canon” then Terminator, Ghost, Superman, Batman, Witchblade, Darkness, Judge Dredd, etc. should all be apart of the “shared universe”.
I always viewed Aliens and Predators as seperate entities, although they are under the same publication and movie company. They are fun crossovers, some entertaining amd others not.
Also, completely out of context, I believe David infected Holloway because he was looking for a solution to aid in Weyland’s search for “immortality”. David asks how far is Holloway willing to go for his answers, seems pretty similar to Weyland trying to prevent death.
In space ….no one can hear you scream….for your money back….
The biggest fault of this movie was the unrealistic responses characters made to events…..and lack of plot….and of course why, when the company spends 1 trillion dollars.on a deep space mission do you have a seemingly third rate crew that make one after another irrational decisions…….this movie script should have never been funded…….
Wow look at that pile of dead alien skeletons…they were running from something…….heh, let’s play Tetris before we try to pet the slimy alien snakes thing that is obviously raised itself upon an aggressive stance…….dumb….dumb….dumb…..
I don’t know, I see people, professionals or not, doing stupid things everyday or doing things that are obviously out of the context of good judgement and/or safety.
Haha! I was thinking the same thing Tim. Although I still agree that playing tag with that alien snake thing was fairly implausible given that these guys were just hours before then scared absolutely s***less about just being in the temple/ship. It didn’t make much sense.
Yes! NASA caught flak a few years ago because of how many idiotic accidents were occuring at their headquarters. Geniuses consistently doing idiotic s*** that cost millions of dollars and killed a few people. One scientist fell off of the friggin’ roof and died!
A lot of scientists are geeks and adrenaline junkies and do some insane, Steve Irwin stupid s***. Weyland would want these types of people. After all, he wants contact at ANY cost and the crew, as it is made clear, is completely expendable.
FIVE changes?? It’s ONE change- that it’s the same ship with the same guy.
Soooo… LV426 would then also have a WMD factory and lots of other ships?
No.
It would be easy to imagine that the (what we assume must be the first) queen laid a ton of eggs on the ship on LV 223. Also that this ship had a distress beacon on it, like the one Ripley found on LV 426. This attracted another Space Jockey, who got face hugged, or brought the queen with him, then Crashing on LV 426.
I know AvP is crap, but do we ignore that the Alien Race clearly existed way earlier than the ‘first queen’ in Prometheus?
My assuming it is the first queen though could be the issue, it could just be another one, or even a regular drone, who knows, or just some off shoot, as apparently they come out of the Space Jockey.
I don’t think it’s the first queen. In Alien they assume the Jockey is ~1000 or 2000 years old. Prometheus takes place some 30 yrs. prior so I rule out it being the “first”. Just a thought.
What I think this whole article misses is that there were multiple ships on the planet and that there may have been another jockey in stasis who then “interacted” with the alien, left the planet, and in transit, his chest explodes and crashes on LV-426. It’s not like the writers didn’t read the Alien script or anything. If they wanted it to be the same planet, they would have made it the same planet.
Exactly.
Also, I agree that the biologist character was ridiculous and the notion that there would have been a stronger selection process for the crew. The biologist was there presumably to examine any life forms they find. So why did he puss out when they saw the first dead engineer? You could have still had them be infected but not in the extremely dumb way that they were. It would have possibly made it more exciting for the snake to trick them or something.
Also, are there any theories as to what the holographic projections of the engineers running away from something were all about?
These changes would be LAME. There would have to be a LOT more changes for this to be a direct prequel to Alien, and why??? Why does it HAVE to be directly connected? I would prefer fewer connections:
1) Remove the cheesy, stupid final minutes that DO directly link this to Alien, because they make little sense at all – they serve no purpose other than to appease whiny fanboys, and it didn’t even work – it just confused them more.
2) Don’t decapitate the android – the android ALWAYS gets ripped in two.
3) I guess they should have made the planet more obviously different from LV-426 too. I thought it was obvious, as the terrain was flat instead of rocky as hell like in Alien, but I’m amazed at how many people STILL think it was the same planet. Not the same planet. Not the same ship.
There were many faults in Prometheus but almost EVERY one of them was an attempt to appease the fanboys by attempting to make what was otherwise a pretty solid sci-fi flick into something reminiscent of Alien.
Vic, You’re assuming this movie is supposed to “dovetail” into the Alien story line directly? Ridley Scott has said all along it isn’t a prequel.
I’ll give you just a couple things in the movie that beg for another movie in between.
-Dr. Shaw had no way to go into hyper-sleep on the alien ship she exited in at the end of the movie. Stands to reason she crashed on LV-426 in a ship carrying the same canisters that may or may not have ultimately infected her.
-The alien that came out of the giant bore a remarkable resemblance to a queen, especially at the end when it screamed and revealed another smaller endo-skull under the outer exo-skull.
This movie just had too many plot holes to be a prequel to Alien.