the only pixar movies i actually liked was toy story and a bug’s life but either than that i can’t stand this whole pixar craze!!! i’m glad that disney is getting back into the traditional style, with that i was really impressed with how the movie Enchanted turned out and i can’t wait for this one!!!no i don’t think pixar will take over completely not after Enchanted and the Princess and the Frog!!! sure thoes films are the longest to make but ppl still enjoy them to this day that’s why they’re classics!!! when this film gets out there its gonna put disney back in the classic swing of things!!!!

I remember reading someone complaining about it when they thought the prince was going to be black – that this obviously showed a black girl wasn’t good enough for a white man. Now the tables have turned and so have the complaints? And yes Tiana will have to have something bad happen to her (be a chambermaid at the start or turned into a frog). The film will be a bit dull otherwise.

I can’t help but feel that in Shrek, even if the story had been indentical but Fiona black, the ending where she chooses to be an ogre would have been attacked as racist.

Though it is not quite a princess, in Beauty and the Beast you would be hard pressed to find a ‘Beast’ toy that wasn’t a bit hairy and in Sword and the Stone, Arthur was turned into a lot of animals so metamorphosis isn’t exactly a new idea. As the other tales are just adaptations of more famous ones it can be argued they weren’t turned into anything because it wouldn’t have really made sense with the plot? Though I can see Kofi’s point about this being the first Disney princess to have it happen to. I may be a bit bias though because I think frogs are cute

Though of course I appreciate everyone has their own opinion, I again can’t see how Disney could have made any sort of film with Tiana as the lead without offending somebody. I will be happy to take the film for what it is – a cartoon for children – and look forward to seeing little girls in pretty Tiana dresses )

Sorry that got a bit long tehe.

Here’s the story I found a few weeks ago where I read that people even had a problem with the movie.

“As for the claim that the New Orleans setting and voodoo themes play on black stereotypes, the source said: ‘New Orleans is an ideal setting for an American fairytale set in the jazz age — it’s all part of the fabric of the story.’”

Pixar avoids offending anyone because all of their films involve non-human characters, except The Incredibles.

You make a good point Kofi and it’s funny I haven’t seen anyone report on that because it is very valid. They just seem to be focused on whether the prince was black on not, at least according the article I just posted above.

BTW, you didn’t need to read SavedGirl’s post or the ridiculous response to it. That kind of ignorance and stupidity seems to be overflowing in our country still.

Next people are going to try an tell me that Disney is doing this film in an effort to “return focus to the plight of New Orleans and other Southern Bayou regions effected by Hurricane Katrina.”

I didn’t see Saved Girl’s comment, but this I know: those who always claim to be able to “enjoy the magic of Disney” probably haven’t had their culture stereotyped in a Disney film. Yet.

And I’m wracking my brain, honestly I am, but has any other Disney Princess besides this black princess (or is she Creole, which is different) ever had to spend a portion of the movie looking like some ugly creature?

Does any other toy or doll version of a Disney Princess come packaged with some ugly creature version of herself? Cuz this one most likely will!

I’m not saying (as a black dude) that this is all racism and prejudice or some evil conspiracy. Aside from Walt’s Nazi-love issue, I don’t think of modern Disney as an evil empire. Disney is a culture whore, pure and simple. They make money off feeding us revered American experience. A whole cultural milestone in our contrary (for kids and pro athletes alike) is a mecca to Disney World. Part of most American childrens’ childhoods involve Disney, as much as it does Coca-cola or Summer BBQs.

The “bad Disney” stuff (Songs of the South, for example, which this movie slightly reminds me of) has always been representative of the prevailing cultural attitudes held by the audience of the time.

Problem is, now that audience has gotten so much more diverse, and yeah, people are going to call Disney out on any B.S., b/c ours is not the same world where Songs of the South was A-ok to show to children. These movies now reach a lot of different Americans from different cultures and backgrounds, and they all deserve to have their kids or their family “feel the magic” without feeling disrespected. Isn’t that the standard we all hold?

You don’t hear all this hoopla over Pixar films-how do those guys manage to always aviod offending particular races or cultures? Hmmm?

So, essentially, Cinderella with frogs? Sorry, while the original story is good, it’s a little too short and the set up is somewhat clichéd, especially considering Disney’s past library, people would have just seen a knock off of old Disney movies.

Plus, the title of this film used to be “The Frog Princess”, the whole thing was always meant to be a slightly different take on the classic story. Will this be the greatest Disney movie? Doubtful, but I do see it being quite a good movie overall.