No Dorothy in ‘Oz the Great and Powerful’ Sequel; WB Developing New ‘Oz’ TV Series

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Disney started developing the Oz the Great and Powerful sequel before director Sam Raimi’s film even opened at the global box office, prompting confusion among people who were under the (mistaken) impression that Raimi had created a prequel that directly leads into the story for The Wizard of Oz (as opposed to, a spiritual predecessor to the 1939 movie).

Raimi and his Oz production designer Robert Stromberg (Alice in Wonderland) had to be careful, when it came to paying tribute to the 1939 classic’s representation of Somewhere Over the Rainbow. That’s because WB/MGM owns the rights to certain Wizard of Oz iconography that did not originate in L. Frank Baum’s source novel “The Wonderful Wizard of Oz” – such as the Ruby Slippers – and those items cannot be reused in any Oz movies produced by Disney.

The LA Times says that WB and Disney are preparing to go head-to-head, when it comes to selling tie-in merchandise for its respective Oz films. Hence, WB is taking advantage of the franchise’s reinvigorated status and developing new properties based on Baum’s source material (specifically, a television show); meanwhile, the Mouse House will continue staying away from Wizard of Oz territory in forthcoming installments.

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Oz the Great and Powerful story and co-screenwriter Mitchell Kapner is currently working on a followup, but producer Joe Roth (Alice in Wonderland, Snow White and the Huntsman) has gone ahead and revealed who won’t be showing up in the sequel: the other famous Kansas resident, Dorothy Gale. Roth informed the Times that Dorothy “would absolutely not” be involved in the story, with Kapner adding:

“['Oz the Great and Powerful' takes place] 20 years before Dorothy arrives. A lot can happen in that time.”

As mentioned before, Roth and Kapner have the possibility of lawsuits to motivate them to avoid revisiting Wizard of Oz story material at this juncture. That’s to say, the news that Dorothy won’t be appearing in an Oz the Great and Powerful followup makes sense (bearing that significant obstacle in mind).

Moreover, Baum left behind more than a dozen Oz novels for Disney to plunder, so there is no reason that future cinematic Oz adventures have to follow a strict path. Instead, they can focus on different stories involving the Glinda, both Wicked Witches and the Wizard – in addition to the Oz inhabitants who have never been properly explored onscreen before.

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In the meantime, WB is considering an Oz television series titled Red Brick Road and has begun shopping it around to cable networks. The Times says it’s being sold as “‘Game of Thrones‘ in the Oz world,” as it takes place in an alternate version of the mystical land – one where an evil queen has seized power and (presumably) rebellion stirs among her disgruntled subjects:

The pitch package poses the premise: “Dorothy went down the yellow brick road. So where did the red brick road go?” — alluding to the path not taken in the 1939 film.

There has been similar television re-imaginings of Oz aimed at older audiences in the past (like Tin Man), but the property appeal might be enough to convince a network to ignore the mixed track record of success for Oz television spinoffs and take a chance on Red Brick Road. It certainly should have little trouble standing apart from Disney’s family-friendly, effects-heavy, interpretation of Baum’s work.

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Oz the Great and Powerful is playing in theaters. For a more in-depth look at the film, check out the SR Underground Podcast discussion.

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Source: LA Times

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  1. Game of Thrones in a Wizard of Oz world? With the Munchkins, the Sexy Witches, and the Flying monkeys, could be a suitably disturbing show… if on HBO

  2. I was just asking if Dorothy is going to appear in the next sequel. That’s all right. Maybe there will be Mombi the cousin of 2 witches of the east and the west.

    Hope we will see Tin Man who is King of Tinland ? I remember watching JOURNEY BACK TO OZ since I was a kid.. I remember watching the animated scenes on Dorothy escaping from the rampaging herd of Green Elephants trying to get help from Glinda the Good Fairy where they meet in the Forest. I remember Scarecrow was King of Emerald City and The Cowardly Lion is King of The Forest in that story. Then in 1985 I watched Disney’s RETURN TO OZ (a,k,a WIZARD OF OZ Sequel) starring Fairuza Balk as Dorothy Gale. That movie was a big thrill. I was 6 years old since I watched it on VHS. I remember in the scene Princess Mombi (Played by Jean Marsh) took her head off and replace it in the secret cupboard, that was weird.

  3. Steps to Oz success:

    Adapt the books. Hire a design and effects team that stays true to the John R. Neill illustrations. Print money.

  4. Nicolas Cage could pull a Scarecrow for a sequel. Ben Stiller could do the coward Lion and I don’t know I always imagined the Tin Man with a Baldwin look but that seems odd, what about the guy from Green Hornet for the Tin Man?

  5. I like the idea of an “Oz” show. I as a kid always wondered what was down the red road. I think the writers of “Lost” should do the “Oz” TV show though. Have all their origins connected in some awe inspiring way with allot of mystery and this way they can involve magic without the “Once Upon A Time” junk.

  6. Oz is an unlimited availability for stories, I mean a lot of Baum’s books alone didn’t involve Dorothy. It was a good balance of half and half.

  7. Not sure if i would be all that into Red Brick Road i personally always felt that the land of OZ in all of its movies and plays was a good time where game of thrones is really focused around all the drama and stuff to me. If it looks good i’ll certainly check it out but i’m not sure yet.

  8. Disgusting how the suits and major studioos exploit and milk beloved franchises for money. Simply disgusting. Red brick road? really?

  9. I like that they are taking a different approach to the classic “The Wizard of Oz” story with the next movie and not immediately heading to Dorothy-land.

    The TV show has a great premise. Where did the red brick road go to? Looks like we’re about to find out.

  10. Red Brick Road sounds dumb. Future Oz movies, I’m not so sure about. It would defiantly have to be an improvement over the current one, for me to go back to the movies and watch.

    I wonder why WB didn’t capitalize on these novels, but instead let Disney do it???

  11. “The Times says it’s being sold as “‘Game of Thrones‘ in the Oz world,” as it takes place in an alternate version of the mystical land – one where an evil queen has seized power and (presumably) rebellion stirs among her disgruntled subjects…” ~ Sandy

    Why do I now have an image of many munchkins having sex and fighting wars?

  12. How could anyone assume ‘Oz the Great and Powerful’ would segue into ‘The Wizard of Oz’? Oz is clearly in his early thirties in ‘OtGaP’; fast-forward to ‘WoO’, and Oz is clearly not in his fifties. Something’s fundamentally wrong here, unless Oz is one of those guys that can’t handle stress and ages prematurely.

  13. An Oz TV show on the CW? That seems predictable. The CW already has a “Sex in the City” prequel…”90210″ remake…a couple different superhero origins on the CW…”Beauty and the Beast” remake of the 80s TV show…”La Femme Nikita” series or “Point of No Return” or the french film “Nikita” remade for the CW.
    And I’m pretty sure that the “Vampire Diaries” is “Twilight” revisited, “Hart of Dixie” is the sitcom “Newhart” rebooted, and “Supernatural” is “Ghostbusters.” ;)

  14. Let Mark Ruffalo be the coward lion!!

  15. TOO MUCH OZ!
    Try moving on to something else while you are at it. I think the “Oz the Great and Powerful” movie was amazing, but with Warner Bros trying to move on with it’s Wizard of Oz property, and a Justice League movie? It just looks too much for them right now (even with a huge team of people in Warner Bros working at the company, there won’t be enough time to hold up their promises for the future).

    Fairy tale series for adults have already been done (by Disney) these other companies need to step up on the competition and create some new ideas (if they can’t do that then reboot a franchise or something). Give us something we audiences need to work at, and make sure it’s aired at a different time than the competition.

    Leave the Oz merchandising and related movies to Disney, and try to transform your own fairy tale Warner Bros.

    PS: This sounds like every time Disney makes a movie or a move that gets them a lot of money, Warner Bros wants to compete. I know that’s’ what they’re supost to do and everything, but they put the idea out on such short notice and expect it to be done soon. Then there is no plan; it seems the company is in trouble…

    PPS: “Red Brick Road” sounds like a name created at the last possible second. Give it a more enchanting name for a show!

    • Your kinda right, they gotta take it slowly

    • Ruby Red Road or Ruby Road

  16. I hope we get to see how Tick-Tock & the Tin Man got created because isn’t there a great war? *Spoiler* I was happy to see a glimpse of the Cowardly Lion & how the Scarecrow came about. The Scarecrows even looked like he did in Return to Oz.

  17. Disney can still have “Dorothy” in their Oz movies! Dorothy is a character from the first Oz books who is NOW in PUBLIC DOMAIN. The only squabble WB would have is IF Disney (or any other studio) had Dorothy resemble Judy Garland’s Dorothy or quote anything from the 1939 movie. So…everyone relax, Dorothy can be featured in ANY future Oz film by ANY studio.

    • Ok, I don’t get it. They claim that Disney does not have rights to use Dorothy as a character in a sequel to “Oz the Great & Powerful.” Yet, Disney has a 1985 movie titled “Return to Oz”, which clearly has Dorothy as a main character. Also, I’d much rather see movies than a tv show for Frank Baum’s Oz movies. Though a show may be kind of interesting. Then there is the Wonderful Wizard Of Oz 1986 animated series, which turned out to be quite intriguing. Disney has done more than an excellent job with their 2013 Oz the Great & Powerful movie and it’s my most favorite of all movies right now! This is also the only movie I went to the theater twice to see! All actors done a terrific job. I even like it better than the 1939 Wizard Of Oz movie. Better that the 2013 was not a musical. True that I would like to see more movies from disney based on events before the arrival of Dorothy. Moreover, I would like to see Disney remake the 1939 Oz movie I know it would be much better based on how well they did “Oz the Great & Powerful. I remember before the 2013 Oz movie played in theaters people in forums were negative about this movie. Now it is one of the highest rated movies ever! I never doubted this movie for a second.

  18. haha man that wb cw abc are SICK IN THEIR HEADS
    once up on a time is already too much!

    the fakeniss of th effects is anreal

    oz a tv show would be over in 6 episodes!

    oz on hbo are you kidding?what would that be oz and realistic world inside oz…f**ck off with that sh*t

  19. Ok, I don’t get it. They claim that Disney does not have rights to use Dorothy as a character in a sequel to “Oz the Great & Powerful.” Yet, Disney has a 1985 movie titled “Return to Oz”, which clearly has Dorothy as a main character. Also, I’d much rather see movies than a tv show for Frank Baum’s Oz movies. Though a show my be kind of interesting. Then there is the Wonderful Wizard Of Oz 1986 animated series, which turned out to be quite intriguing. Disney has done more than an excellent job with their 2013 Oz the Great & Powerful movie and it’s my most favorite of all movies right now! This is also the only movie I went to the theater twice to see! All actors done a terrific job. I even like it better than the 1939 Wizard Of Oz movie. Better that the 2013 was not a musical. True that I would like to see more movies from disney based on events before the arrival of Dorothy. Moreover, I would like to see Disney remake the 1939 Oz movie I know it would be much better based on how well they did “Oz the Great & Powerful. I remember before the 2013 Oz movie played in theaters people in forums were negative about this movie. Now it is one of the highest rated movies ever! I never doubted this movie for a second.

  20. I don’t see why Dorothy can’t show up in the next movie when it comes out. Plus we NEED the Ruby Slippers in the next movie. They have to show how Evanora even got them to begin with and started her reign of terror in Munchkin land in order for Dorothy to lay claim to them 20 years later. She was stripped of her magic when her pendant was destroyed, so obviously its the slippers that gave her back her powers seeing what they are able to do when Dorohy gets them. *lol* if we can’t use the 1939 movie name for the legendary shoes, why not CHANGE THE NAME AND COLOR OF THE SHOES BACK to what they originally were in the books? Weren’t the shoes originally silver and called the Silver Slippersr in the books? They say that the 1939 movie turned the shoes into the RUBY slippers because they thought the original color wouldn’t look good on screen, so they came up with the RUBY RED slippers.

    • @paili-chan I was also going to mention that according to the books, the slippers were “silver slippers” rather than ruby slippers. If they decide to remake “The Wizard Of Oz” , the slippers is one thing they should definitely change.The Red Ruby slippers did look nice on screen, but silver slippers should gleam more!

      • I would also like to see what Disney could now do with other characters like the witch Mombi, Ozma, Tik-Tik, Jack Pumpkinhead, Billina, ToTo, the ScareCrow, Tinman, Dorothy, Aunt Em, Uncle Henry, and the Lollypop Kids. Though most of the characters I listed appeared in Disney’s 1985 movie “Return To Oz” which got an Academy Award nomination for Best Visual Effects. I know they could do even better than that! Since 1985, there is more they could do with special affects and illusion. All the Oz movies had special affects including the 1939 one. “Oz the Great & Powerful” just had far more better special affects than it’s predecessors.

  21. Since Disney touched on their version of the original, how about fitting a little of the musical wicked in the sequel.(Plot possibility)Still feeling guilty in his misconduct with Theodora, he hatches a plan to get Theodora to return to the good side, he manages to succeed, but because she had been wicked, the green skin color remains. (Meanwhile, her sister will stop at nothing to get her back) The wizard also gets his monkey involved in her return, When she fails to convince the people of Oz that she’s no longer evil. This time Theodora chooses to stay on the dark side(for good), madder and more vengeful than ever. She punishes the monkey too, taking away his ability to speak and making him her personal servant.

  22. Disney should use some of its cash to buy rights to the 1939 movie. Better yet, why don’t they buy the whole studio?

  23. I hope in the oz movies when they get to dorothy, the actress won’t be extremely young and find some one who is around Judy garland’s age when she played dorothy.

  24. to the person who said vampire diaries were like twilight…the vampire diary books predate the twilight books by about 14 years so twilight is the ripoff

  25. I have a feeling the Dorthy story will be retold one day as a trilogy, please no more TV series.
    As of Disney, they are buying a lot of companies and still making money. I would like them to buy Fox studios so the Mutants in the marvel universe can be used without the need of retelling them as Inhumans.

  26. In the first five minutes of the movie James Franco’s character speaks to a girl with the last name Gail the one getting engaged or something like that or the guy she was getting engaged to his last name was Gail did anyone else pick up on that

  27. Sorry about the spelling I meant Gale

  28. Oz The Great And Powerful is not a sequel, its a prequel.

  29. Oz the great and powerful was an amazing prequel. It stuck to the original realy good..colorful and powerful. I still have my wizard of oz 50th anniversary vhs since I was a kid and read the novels. Disney all in all did a good job. Yes there are many spin offs of it but they all have their points and new exploration into the new era of th wizard of oz. They had a good cast in the oz and definitely should make a sequel. Each company can make their own story of it but its in the eye of the beholder