Open Discussion – June 18, 2014

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  1. so i started watching Orange is the new black, and i have to say it’s a pretty well written show. anyone else watch that?

    • Yep! Great show. It’s not for everyone though, I can see where people could get sick of it.

      Something about it makes me want “Prison Break” back.

      • I miss Prison Break.

        Need to do a new one with his son, Prison Break 2: Alcatraz Boogaloo.

  2. Been an avid reader of Batman comics for a few years now. I find The New 52 with Scott Snyder series to be outstanding. So after seeing X-Men: DOFP three times, I decided to get into X-Men comics. I read the DOFP graphic novel and must say, I don’t like the comics. And the storyline is so small for being made into such a massive movie. Don’t really understand how people don’t think Fox does a good job with X-Men, cause if they tried being to adaptive, the movies would be ridiculously corny.

    • There has also been a larger cultural appeal for Batman, compared to X-Men. Everyone wants a shot at a take on the Caped Crusader. When it comes to X-Men, everyone wants to do a take on Wolverine 90% of the time.

      It’s the advantage Batman has had for decades: since so many people love the idea of him, more attention is going to be given to his quality in media. And even if a product doesn’t meet expectations, he’s too big of a name to die out. Superman and Spider-Man are the exact same way.

  3. Anyone else checking out the LEGO Movie? I’m personally waiting for it to come to 7.99 at my local Family Video, which is about 3 weeks wait, not too bad. Really looking forward to all the extras and such. And just to see Batman Superman and Wonderwoman together, ties me over to BvS…

    Anyone know why Marvel lego’s were excluded in that film? Deadpool coulda been a ridiculously awesome add on…

    • Lego only just recently acquired the rights to make Marvel Lego characters. By thhat time i believe The Lego Movie was in post production. They jus had an article up here a few weeks ago sayin how they wil appear in the sequel. Lego would be the best way to get Marvel and DC side by side. In a film that is.

  4. i know theres a star wars post but theres just too many comments to keep up with, doesn anyuone think they know what route there gonna go for the future episodes 7-9?

    • I’ll read the articles about Star Wars but I won’t let myself get excited unless I see the word “official” or “confirmed” and I’m commenting on those articles less and less.

      After a year of nothing before even a cast announcement I burnt myself out on Star Wars rumors.

      I’ve already reached that point with Batman vs Superman.
      I want to comment at times but with so many it feels pointless now.
      Even worse is the amount of DC sucks or Gal Gadot doesn’t have the right body type comments.

  5. Anybody tired of DC rumors and just wanting an official synopsis released yet by Warner Brothers detailing the outline of the movie? I know that the JL cameos are being confirmed and that Batman is supposed to take Superman to task for the destruction of Metropolis, but I seriously just want some grounded plot points to get a feel for the actual direction of the movie.

    • If nothing is confirmed at SDCC we are lookin at least another year of rumors.. So hang tight my friend.
      But yea, i want some official confirmations too.

    • I’m tired of rumors in general. Give me officially confirmed stories and leave all that speculation and hearsay in the box. It’s just a waste of time.

    • “Collateral damage” is what Metropolis was.

      • I GUESS THAT BATMAN HAS NEVER BEEN IN A WAR-ZONE.

  6. What ever happened to Vic? I haven’t seen him on here in quite awhile.

    • Vic is busy being the man behind the curtain these days. But rest assured I’m keeping an eye on things here. :)

  7. Ok so I have been waiting to see XMEN: DOFP with my friend (He’s alos big comic book movie buff; we’ve seen Thor2, CA: WS, AS2, plans for more this year) and he has just been swamped with work and family stuff. Do I keep waiting for him to finally get a clear schedule, or do i find it online and see it (I’m not about to go to the theatre by myself)? Sidenote: None of my other friends have any interest in XMEN or the movies

    Help!

    • Clifford…honestly bro its a good movie but you can wait to see it online or wait until it comes out on blu ray/dvd, im not gonna spoil it for you but it wasnt as good as i hoped it would be, Mystique is kind of on her own so theres a few scenes with her with hand to hand combat, then theres a pretty cool scene with Quicksilver but other than that the action didnt impress me, not alot of Wolverine and the ending action scenes was just average

      • Thank you!

        I thought I was the only one in the world that felt generally underwhelmed by DOFP.

        • Nope, you’re not.

          It was an OK movie

        • It felt like watching a good two hour TV movie. Sentinels just were not that scary either. A few good scenes. They went for more of an emotional impact and only kind of succeeded.

          Twinkpocalypse at the end was kind of lame. I wish Matthew Vaughan had directed this one. Hopefully Singer won’t be back. He kind of phoned it in. He did better with X2.

    • Thank you Riggins02 for the thoughtful response, and Aaron and wraab as well. Gonna try and find it online sometime this week and watch it without high hopes!

  8. What’s the chance Gustin Grant gets to play Flash for Zach Synider…and who’s being cast as Green Lantern?…The Rock? My choice….Nathan Fillon.

  9. Does anybody remember Mummies Alive ! ?
    Is it me or would that make for a pretty popcorn action flick ? It would be better than this reboot we are about to get. I watched the 1st one wit Brendan Fraser like a billion times. The Karloff original freaks out my youngins… Lol.

    • That and Mighty Max. Do it, Hollywood.

  10. Welp, I’ve landed another role in a local play: Juror #3 in “12 Angry Men” (I tend to work in a lot of references to my personal life within my comments here).

    I’m also aiming to do a radio play based on a Twilight Zone episode. So yeah, busy to say the least haha. Is “Edge of Tomorrow” worth seeing in theaters?

    • @ACW:

      Yes… see Edge of Tomorrow in the theaters. One of the best films I’ve seen in 2014.

      (Noah was the worst.. in any year)

      • I was sketchy about Noah.

        I mean, I’m Christian (Methodist) and I do still hold that faith, but I don’t take the Bible word for word literally. Perspective was an entirely different game back then. So unique takes on the different chronicles don’t bother me. Noah just looked…like it took itself too seriously. Dark and gritty is not how I imagine that story at all.

        But yeah, I don’t mind unique perspectives. Jesus Christ: Superstar mainly comes from the viewpoints of the opposite end of the spectrum. I love it because the response on the Christian side isn’t about proving anything; it’s about doing the right thing for the greater good. That’s what religion should provide: a good set of morals you can interpret for the greater good. Set you up for what you feel is right in your heart, not to emphasize what you read in a book.

    • See it man. You won’t be disappointed. I was hoping for something at least as good as Oblivion or Elysium (cuz those are the movies the trailer reminded me of) but it blew both those films completely out of the water.

    • Congrats, you busy thespian! Are you doing two plays at once, or does 12AG start when B&TB ends? Which TZ episode is the radio play?

      Definitely go see EOT. That movie was a lot of fun, and I agree with BigNerd that it was one of the best I’ve seen this year.

      • “12 Angry Men” is a quicker production so it comes first, and the final product is in a couple of months. “Beauty and the Beast” is set for late Fall, early Winter. And the Twilight Zone episode is “The Monsters Are Due On Maple Street”.

        They’ve been thinking about doing daily chapters of any novel daily, but I suggested that it’d be interesting to see how people reacted to something like Orson Welles and “War of the Worlds” if it were trimmed down into short stories.

        And so Twilight Zone came into the discussion, which is a gamble worth taking. If listeners really like the idea of Twilight Zone’s return, more radio productions will be done of different episodes (if we are given certain rights). If not, Twilight Zone is out of the picture.

        I have faith that people will enjoy it though. I’ve never met anyone that wasn’t at least interested by it’s strange universe :)

        • Seems like those who run the productions are not only open to suggestions but also value your opinion. That’s really cool.

          I teach “The Monsters Are Due On Maple Street” in my drama unit with seventh graders every year. It’s a great story, showing how panic, fear, and a mob mentality can control and destroy us. The students enjoy our dramatic reading of the play, followed by watching the TZ episode. It also sparks some great discussion.

          I did some plays back in college and had a blast. Some one-acts, a murder mystery, and a comedic play. Great times. I hope things go well for you. Keep us posted.

  11. Since I liked Edge of Tomorrow better than recent Cruise movies, I decided to re-watch some old ones that I remember liking.

    Saw “Minority Report” the other day and I was expecting a movie that was out over 12 years ago not to hold up, but it actually did.

    Some of the other Cruise films I remember liking:

    War of the Worlds
    MI 3 and MI 4 (didn’t like MI 1 or 2 that much)
    The Last Samurai
    Knight and Day <- Actually didn't like this when I first saw it, but upon repeat watching, actually better than I initially thought.

    Oblivion was so-so, as was Jack Reacher… but Edge has been his best in the last few years.

    • @bignerd
      Dude watch Collateral, Tom Cruise’s best role imo.

      • @Scott:

        Wasn’t very memorable from the first time I saw it.

        Saw parts of it recently on cable (FX or some channel), may try to rewatch the whole thing again.

        • @ ScottySummerS @ BigNerd

          The shootout in the night club put Collateral over the top for me. Right after I watched it for the first time I rewound (haha VHS reference, I wasn’t even watching a VHS) to that scene so I could see it again. It was so awesome.

          I didn’t think the movie as a whole was like Citizen Kane or anything. It was a little too long imho, but I enjoyed it, and was glad I watched it. Tom Cruise was a legit villain/assassin dude.

          Regarding your other picks I also rewatched Minority Report a few weeks ago and was surprised how well it holds up. The special effects are still pretty awesome. Also, that movie has tons of lens flares haha.. It reminded me of JJ a little bit, and this film was released several years before JJ was ever even known for that.

          Definitely rewatch MI3 and MI4. (I also agree that 1 and 2 aren’t that great) 3 is my fave of the franchise. I love the drone attack on the bridge, every scene with Philip Seymour Hoffman, the whole opening sequence when they try and rescue Hunt’s trainee, I just love that movie.

    • @ BigNerd,

      Favorite TC films:
      Taps – “It’s beautiful, man! Beautiful!”
      Risky Business – “Porsche. There is no substitute.”
      The Outsiders – I teach the novel every year, so I’m a little biased with this one.
      Legend – Tangerine Dream’s music is excellent, and I liked the story.
      Edge of Tomorrow
      (Four out of five films are in the eighties! Ah, the memories…)

      I haven’t seen Collateral or any of the M:I sequels. (I thought the first M:I wasn’t that great.) Should I give any of the others a chance?

      • @ $2

        The second MI movie was kinda awful… Maybe you could just skip that one haha.

        MI:3 was fantastic. JJ Abrams did it, so if you like any of his stuff you’ll prbly enjoy it. The cast is fantastic: Lawrence Fishburne, Maggie Q, Jonathan Rhys Meyers, Philip Seymour Hoffman, Simon Pegg, they’re all great. The action setpieces are a lot of fun. They also tried to make the mask gimmick believable, and I thought they did a good job of it. MI:4 was also pretty dang incredible. Brad Bird (Iron Giant, Incredibles) directed it, that dude hasn’t made a dud yet.

        So yeah I recommend 3 and 4.

        • Thanks for the tips, MD. I’ll definitely see 3 and 4.

      • @$2:

        What… no Top Gun? I guess I should have said Cruise *action* movies or I would have included The Firm and A Few Good Men.

        Definitely MI3 and MI4 like movieDude said.

        Maybe any movie where Tom Cruise is running should be given a look. :)

  12. Does anyone here own the Prometheus Blu-ray?

    I see it’s pretty cheap on Amazon and I’m wondering if it’s worth picking up?

    I have some serious issues with the movie but wonder if watching deleted scenes or behind the scenes features will help answer questions or improve on the movie we saw in theaters.

    I can’t explain why at a full 2yrs later I still have interest in a movie that the more I’ve seen the less I like it.
    Maybe it’s still disappointment or maybe I’m just that big of a dork that I can’t let it go? ;)

    • I also find myself analyzing the crap out of movies I didn’t like. Especially if they’re sequels to movies I REALLY liked, like you with Prometheus.

      I couldn’t get over Spider-Man 3 for years haha.. Same with X-Men The Last Stand. A more recent example could be Harry Potter 5. I thought it was the worst book of the series, but for one reason or another I felt like the movie could be among the best of the franchise. When the movie finally released I was very disappointed. I kept thinking how they could’ve made it better. Different score, cut this scene, make this one better, do this differently, include the trip to Mungos.

      Like you said I feel like a dork when I think about it. It’s kinda pathetic haha..

      Also Elysium from last year. I enjoyed Elysium, but I feel like there was a genre-defining sci-fi movie in there ready to emerge and it just didn’t.

  13. I wholeheartedly agree about Elysium.
    I was so excited for that but after seeing it I couldn’t help but think there was something there that could have been great but it didn’t translate to the screen.

    It’s the same thing with Prometheus.
    I see the ideas for 2 great movies. 1- A proper prequel to Alien. 2 – A story about the Engineer’s.
    But for some reason we got a mix of the 2 that left us without answers to either and that’s why I’m hoping maybe the Blu-ray has some features that can clear things up.

  14. Why are films based on comics, toys, and old TV shows considered viable properties for big budget film adaptations, but video games, ( which contain many of the same entrensic qualities) , still seen as a considerable risk? And what would it take for a game adaptation film to set the tone and ease the minds of the studio heads?

    • Besides the fact that only Prince of Persia & Tomb Raider were good both critically and financially, I would say because it’s easier for executives to see characters as they are in non-interactive form. To really get to the meat of a video game, you’d have to play it.

      When they make a film adaption of a comic book, for example, and they stray from the source material and don’t portray the character at all how true fans say they should be, it’s likely because some old guy in a suit who has a lot of money and no interest in the same things as us common folk barely glances at the source material (coughcoughAviAradcoughcough) and thinks, “ohh he looks cool, let’s give him this and that and make him do this, so on so on”.

      There’s seemingly no one out here who wants to get the heart and soul of a VG movie right. Also, video games and their consoles are tremendously underselling compared to previous generation. The only real popular brands still going are Halo, GTA, Mario, Diablo, Mortal Kombat (kind of) anddddd yeah I think that’s it. MGS has been selling less and less, same with Street Fighter, Resident Evil after part 4 I believe, and even Tomb Raider isn’t that popular – possibly because Uncharted took the treasure hunting adventure genre and stole the show.

      Personally I’d love to see someone get the balls to make a smash bros movie. I’d take that, Halo, Gears of War, God of War (wait a few more years for the Titan & Percy Jackson movies to be forgotten by the general public :) ), MK, and a proper Resident Evil.

    • ALSOOOOO

      Name recognition/brand! Older people don’t know about all these new games coming out. My mother knows about MK, SF, Final Fantasy and of course Mario, but these are games she’s seen me play, read about and talk about. The highest selling games these days are casual/mobile/handheld/Nintendo games. The stuff a self-proclaimed hardcore gamer knows about just isn’t popular.

      How do you feel about a League of Legends movie?

  15. Still think Edge of Tomorrow had the potential to be the best movie of the summer.(Still awesome movie )

    Imax detail that I see on TF4 is very disappointing.. Was fully expecting full screen Nolan style imax scenes.. instead , selected scenes will be 1.9:1 aspect ratio only….. I won’t be making trips to see this in real imax then.. Really blows.

    Soccer anyone?

    – from Imax.com –
    Exclusively in IMAX theatres, sequences filmed with the IMAX 3D Digital Cameras will be presented in a 1.9:1 aspect ratio – offering moviegoers 26% more of the image than standard cinemas for a truly immersive IMAX 3D experience.

  16. Godzilla is the biggest opener this year in China!