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		<title>By: Ken J</title>
		<link>http://screenrant.com/open-discussion-june-17-2009-vic-13491/comment-page-8/#comment-104032</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I honestly thought someone made a typo and meant to say happy father&#039;s day, didn&#039;t know it was actually Vic&#039;s birthday! lol. Happy belated birthday dude, haha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I honestly thought someone made a typo and meant to say happy father&#8217;s day, didn&#8217;t know it was actually Vic&#8217;s birthday! lol. Happy belated birthday dude, haha.</p>
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		<title>By: Vic Holtreman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vic Holtreman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 16:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the well-wishes folks! :)

Vic</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the well-wishes folks! <img src='http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Vic</p>
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		<title>By: gottarhyme</title>
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		<dc:creator>gottarhyme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 09:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi guys, my apologies to Vic...I think it might be my fault the thread discussion became a Gun VS no guns argument. I mentioned Mike Moore&#039;s Mocumentary, &#039;Bowling For Columbine&#039;, so...its sort of film related. :)

Oh, its your birthday? Happy Birthday!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi guys, my apologies to Vic&#8230;I think it might be my fault the thread discussion became a Gun VS no guns argument. I mentioned Mike Moore&#8217;s Mocumentary, &#8216;Bowling For Columbine&#8217;, so&#8230;its sort of film related. <img src='http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Oh, its your birthday? Happy Birthday!</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel F</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 07:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t mind admiting I enjoy a good romantic comedy now and then. I also find Ryan Reynolds to be hilarious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t mind admiting I enjoy a good romantic comedy now and then. I also find Ryan Reynolds to be hilarious.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 06:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happy Birthday Vic!
I hope you had a great day with your family.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy Birthday Vic!<br />
I hope you had a great day with your family.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken J</title>
		<link>http://screenrant.com/open-discussion-june-17-2009-vic-13491/comment-page-7/#comment-102359</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 06:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if that is enough to petition for Daniel&#039;s &quot;Man Card&quot; to be revoked?? lol just kidding...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if that is enough to petition for Daniel&#8217;s &#8220;Man Card&#8221; to be revoked?? lol just kidding&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: 790</title>
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		<dc:creator>790</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 06:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is that the Sandra Bullock chick flick. 
She can carry a film.    Booyah!!

I love Sandra.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is that the Sandra Bullock chick flick.<br />
She can carry a film.    Booyah!!</p>
<p>I love Sandra.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel F</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 05:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I know it&#039;s not the kind of movies we usually talk about, but I&#039;m watching The Proposal tonight. I think it looks pretty good anyone else seen it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I know it&#8217;s not the kind of movies we usually talk about, but I&#8217;m watching The Proposal tonight. I think it looks pretty good anyone else seen it?</p>
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		<title>By: 790</title>
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		<dc:creator>790</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 05:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah Ken, I&#039;d like to think that we all understand each other better now.  

Let&#039;s try to keep this positive level of discussion going on other topics, and encourage others as well,,,, 

As Screen Rant enables us to converse in this manner we shouldn&#039;t argue all the time and abuse the privledge that Vic provides...     

  All is good.   ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah Ken, I&#8217;d like to think that we all understand each other better now.  </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s try to keep this positive level of discussion going on other topics, and encourage others as well,,,, </p>
<p>As Screen Rant enables us to converse in this manner we shouldn&#8217;t argue all the time and abuse the privledge that Vic provides&#8230;     </p>
<p>  All is good.   <img src='http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ken J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 05:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@790
You&#039;re right, enough about the gun talk, but it was cool though, we remained civil, most of the time, lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@790<br />
You&#8217;re right, enough about the gun talk, but it was cool though, we remained civil, most of the time, lol.</p>
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		<title>By: 790</title>
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		<dc:creator>790</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 04:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its true there are different levels of prison standards. 

Hey Daniel, why don&#039;t we give Vic and everyone else here a break on the prison discussion. 

Let&#039;s get back to things that involve movies and tv. ???
 This open discussion has been fun but let&#039;s not drag it down further with the quality of prison life,,,
I&#039;m getting a headache. 
  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its true there are different levels of prison standards. </p>
<p>Hey Daniel, why don&#8217;t we give Vic and everyone else here a break on the prison discussion. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s get back to things that involve movies and tv. ???<br />
 This open discussion has been fun but let&#8217;s not drag it down further with the quality of prison life,,,<br />
I&#8217;m getting a headache.<br />
  <img src='http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Daniel F</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 03:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well ken not my buddy anymore, but the prison out here is basically a spa. It&#039;s Taft Prison the prison that Tommy Chong was in when he got arrested. Even Chong says it&#039;s easy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well ken not my buddy anymore, but the prison out here is basically a spa. It&#8217;s Taft Prison the prison that Tommy Chong was in when he got arrested. Even Chong says it&#8217;s easy.</p>
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		<title>By: 790</title>
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		<dc:creator>790</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 03:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken, why don&#039;t we give Vic and everyone else here a break and end the gun discussion...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken, why don&#8217;t we give Vic and everyone else here a break and end the gun discussion&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ken J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 03:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doh, should read never assume a weapon is unloaded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doh, should read never assume a weapon is unloaded.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken J</title>
		<link>http://screenrant.com/open-discussion-june-17-2009-vic-13491/comment-page-7/#comment-102337</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 03:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@GK
&quot;It’s a difference in opinion..some of us don’t like, want or need guns..that’s it..that’s why I say your arguement is fundamentalist rhetoric..Hey keep your guns, have fun, knock yourself out but hey just be careful and don’t shoot yourself in the foot...&quot;

And my argument has NEVER been to FORCE anyone to own a firearm. The point is that anti gun people are trying to FORCE everyone to not have them. So I&#039;m the one advocating giving the people the freedom to choose whether or not they want to be armed for self protection or for hobby. You don&#039;t like guns? Fine, don&#039;t get them, but don&#039;t act like everyone else needs to be like you. And I won&#039;t shoot myself in the foot because I never aim the muzzle of any of my weapons at any part of my body. Firearm safety 101. Treat all firearms as if they were loaded, don&#039;t point your weapon at anything you don&#039;t intend to destroy, keep your finger or any object away from the trigger until you&#039;re ready to fire, never assume a weapon is loaded, always check AND VERIFY with a second person that a weapon is clear. Simple stuff, you&#039;ll have to screw up like 3 or 4 of those at the same time for an accident to happen. And accidents do happen, just like accidents happen on the road because people speed or follow too closely behind other drivers. It&#039;s impossible to prevent because people are idiots.

And I wasn&#039;t talking about jails, jails are nasty, I was talking about prisons. Prisons are built for long term incarceration so they typically have more amenities while jails are meant for 364 days or less so they typically are very bare bones. Some say the worst sentence is 364 days since that means they will go to jail for the longest time allowed instead of prison. They would prefer to be sentenced a week longer just to end up in a prison instead. Judges do that on purpose for those crimes that call for a sentence that borderlines a year, they will intentionally decrease the sentence to just under a year if the defendent wasn&#039;t respectful or something, lol. To laymen it sounds like they are doing them a favor, but in fact it makes it much worse. Good for them...

@Andy S

I have a lot of friends who were and some are still CO&#039;s and they tell me inmates are crybabies, lol. They whine and cry about EVERYTHING. Oh, oops, CO&#039;s stand for correctional officers, I have to use acronyms carefully, lol.

@Daniel

Your buddy is retarded, lol, I&#039;m not sure if I&#039;ve personally heard of anyone &quot;loving&quot; it in there, but my friends who are CO&#039;s tell me that it&#039;s pretty calm in there and they see &quot;regulars&quot; in there and they&#039;ve had several inmates tell them &quot;it&#039;s better than living on the streets&quot; or something to that effect.

@Vic

Hey, sorry for continuing, but we&#039;re keeping it civil! :-) And Happy Father&#039;s Day!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@GK<br />
&#8220;It’s a difference in opinion..some of us don’t like, want or need guns..that’s it..that’s why I say your arguement is fundamentalist rhetoric..Hey keep your guns, have fun, knock yourself out but hey just be careful and don’t shoot yourself in the foot&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>And my argument has NEVER been to FORCE anyone to own a firearm. The point is that anti gun people are trying to FORCE everyone to not have them. So I&#8217;m the one advocating giving the people the freedom to choose whether or not they want to be armed for self protection or for hobby. You don&#8217;t like guns? Fine, don&#8217;t get them, but don&#8217;t act like everyone else needs to be like you. And I won&#8217;t shoot myself in the foot because I never aim the muzzle of any of my weapons at any part of my body. Firearm safety 101. Treat all firearms as if they were loaded, don&#8217;t point your weapon at anything you don&#8217;t intend to destroy, keep your finger or any object away from the trigger until you&#8217;re ready to fire, never assume a weapon is loaded, always check AND VERIFY with a second person that a weapon is clear. Simple stuff, you&#8217;ll have to screw up like 3 or 4 of those at the same time for an accident to happen. And accidents do happen, just like accidents happen on the road because people speed or follow too closely behind other drivers. It&#8217;s impossible to prevent because people are idiots.</p>
<p>And I wasn&#8217;t talking about jails, jails are nasty, I was talking about prisons. Prisons are built for long term incarceration so they typically have more amenities while jails are meant for 364 days or less so they typically are very bare bones. Some say the worst sentence is 364 days since that means they will go to jail for the longest time allowed instead of prison. They would prefer to be sentenced a week longer just to end up in a prison instead. Judges do that on purpose for those crimes that call for a sentence that borderlines a year, they will intentionally decrease the sentence to just under a year if the defendent wasn&#8217;t respectful or something, lol. To laymen it sounds like they are doing them a favor, but in fact it makes it much worse. Good for them&#8230;</p>
<p>@Andy S</p>
<p>I have a lot of friends who were and some are still CO&#8217;s and they tell me inmates are crybabies, lol. They whine and cry about EVERYTHING. Oh, oops, CO&#8217;s stand for correctional officers, I have to use acronyms carefully, lol.</p>
<p>@Daniel</p>
<p>Your buddy is retarded, lol, I&#8217;m not sure if I&#8217;ve personally heard of anyone &#8220;loving&#8221; it in there, but my friends who are CO&#8217;s tell me that it&#8217;s pretty calm in there and they see &#8220;regulars&#8221; in there and they&#8217;ve had several inmates tell them &#8220;it&#8217;s better than living on the streets&#8221; or something to that effect.</p>
<p>@Vic</p>
<p>Hey, sorry for continuing, but we&#8217;re keeping it civil! <img src='http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  And Happy Father&#8217;s Day!</p>
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		<title>By: Iron Knight</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iron Knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 03:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, Vic Happy Birthday, man!!! I hope you had a great day with your family and my best wishes to you and them. 
Also, to everyone here that is a father, well... I hope you guys had a very Happy Father&#039;s Day!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Vic Happy Birthday, man!!! I hope you had a great day with your family and my best wishes to you and them.<br />
Also, to everyone here that is a father, well&#8230; I hope you guys had a very Happy Father&#8217;s Day!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel F</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 21:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a buddy who lost his job and was going to lose his house so he did some dumb things to get him self locked up. He has been in and out about 3 times now he loves it there. Maybe not all prisons are great, but there certainly are a few where the criminals actually love it. To those who sit around saying there is nothing fun or enjoyable about prison come visit my local one. Those guys get cable TV in their cells.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a buddy who lost his job and was going to lose his house so he did some dumb things to get him self locked up. He has been in and out about 3 times now he loves it there. Maybe not all prisons are great, but there certainly are a few where the criminals actually love it. To those who sit around saying there is nothing fun or enjoyable about prison come visit my local one. Those guys get cable TV in their cells.</p>
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		<title>By: greenknight333</title>
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		<dc:creator>greenknight333</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 21:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vic

Very sorry about four or five of us hijacking a few threads here for topics not related or indirectly related to the threads..

Again my apologies... :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vic</p>
<p>Very sorry about four or five of us hijacking a few threads here for topics not related or indirectly related to the threads..</p>
<p>Again my apologies&#8230; <img src='http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Andy S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 21:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a buddy who is an ex-prison guard. Ken, believe me, those guys in jail are not in club med.  Even for them.  Some of the stuff my buddy told me would make you sick. HIV infected inmates throwing their blood and feces at guards and other inmates, guys being stabbed for looking at someone weird, etc.  I think the bastards deserve what they have coming to them, but an easy life it is not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a buddy who is an ex-prison guard. Ken, believe me, those guys in jail are not in club med.  Even for them.  Some of the stuff my buddy told me would make you sick. HIV infected inmates throwing their blood and feces at guards and other inmates, guys being stabbed for looking at someone weird, etc.  I think the bastards deserve what they have coming to them, but an easy life it is not.</p>
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		<title>By: 790</title>
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		<dc:creator>790</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 21:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well next weekend its going to be Transformers mania. 

 8-O</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well next weekend its going to be Transformers mania. </p>
<p> <img src='http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif' alt='8-O' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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