Open Discussion – June 12, 2013

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As usual – talk about whatever you like as long as it’s related to movies, TV or Screen Rant itself – just remember to play nice. icon smile Open Discussion   June 12, 2013

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  1. @Robert Palmar

    Any imperfections with the movie MAN OF STEEL is certainly not an affliction of Superman’s; he’s perfection incarnate.

    His creators had generously overreached in giving their consumate hero the richness of god-like powers. (See my thread for a reasonably credible Justice League movie narrative; it’s not to persuade you in accepting the idea of the JL, but a show of logic in making such a film somewhat credible.)

    Critics who suggest Christopher Nolan’s “realistic” approach in MOS is flawed might’ve reconsidered if, in the end, Superman had sadly departed the earth (to return, naturally, when there is a sequel).

    Why excommunicate himself? Torn between instruction from Jor-El and that of Jonathan in coming to grips with the inconvenient truth about his powers, Superman realizes that by saving the earth from itself he would, in effect, avert the “intended” destiny of the world.

    This sets up the Justice League film because they need Superman more than he needs them.

    The JL movie is possible, if not necessary, when not taken any more seriously than the comic books; simply escapist fantasy as entertainment.

    And for the studio — like MAN OF STEEL — JL doesn’t need to make sense as much as the need to make money.

    • If your reply is filled with spoilers you’re our of order.
      This is upsetting if you have revealed MOS plot points.

    • Since you have been back making posts and failed
      to address my concerns I can only assume you
      have indeed revealed spoilers to this film.

      Revealing a major plot point of the ending
      is an inexcusable outrage and just dumb.

  2. Rotten Tomatoes now has MOS at 60. Soon to drop further or come back.
    I looked up 300. Its rating was 60. Is that close to what it should be?
    The Zack factor with a block of critics is probably at play with MOS.
    Maybe MOS is not as good as expected, but Rotten? No way.

    • It shouldnt be rotten nor does 300 need to be 1% away from rotten. He is an extremely visual director and that can be off putting

      • I am beginning to think an automatic 25% markdown
        is taken with the name Zack Snyder — any movie
        starts at 75 and works its way down from there.

        And some reviewers will never forgive Zack
        for Sucker Punch and another group
        talk like he is not even legitimate.

      • I’ll trust your 4/5 over RT anytime, Trey.
        I imagine that’s where I’ll come down too.

  3. @Wally West

    You’re right; beyond the “front-five” of the Justice League, its membership comprises those members who — like the idea for the league itself — were thrown together as a lark.

    Making sense of Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, The Flash and Green Lantern being in the same room is unweildy enough…but with lots of imagination (too often in short supply) the JL film is quite doable.

  4. @Xandra

    Naomi Watts, among the top 10 worthwhile female actors working in cinema, would not be in this movie if she didn’t “nail it.”

    But knowing the Royals have given the production their blessing (and permission to film on sacred ground), I fear this bio is bias and those areas where the Queen (while Diana was alive) found the Princess disagreeable may not have found their way into the final cut.

    Hope I’m wrong.

  5. @Lawrence

    Don’t laugh, but moviegoers’ conditioned to base their film choices on a critic’s biases and film reviews is a form of “mind-control”. When I say this, some laugh out loud, but historically it bears fruit.

    No, not in every instance, but still to the detriment of a movie’s opening weekend and overall American box office performance…until overseas returns exceed those in the U.S. and stops the hemorrhage.

    Later, when the flick is on DVD, people realize they are in disagreement with the film review.

    Ironically, by this time and by the industry’s calculus the picture has “underperformed”.

    It’s madness.

  6. Just read some of the reviews of World War Z on RT.

    20 Reviews

    16 Tomatoes vs 4 Rotten.

    Man of Steel 66 Tomatoes vs 44 Rotten.

    Well, I know how I will feel about Man of Steel this time tomorrow.

    But, I think Zack Synder needs to stop directing movies based on WHAT HE THINKS PEOPLE WANT TO WATCH.

    • If anything, a director should make movies based on what they want, given that it is their piece of art. Like Picasso paintings… they are trashy looking junk. I can paint better with my feet.