Open Discussion – February 18, 2009
Feb 18, 2009 by Vic HoltremanIt’s Wednesday, so that means it’s time for our weekly discussion post – where YOU determine the topics!
As usual – talk about whatever you like …

It’s Wednesday, so that means it’s time for our weekly discussion post – where YOU determine the topics!
As usual – talk about whatever you like as long as it’s related to movies, TV or Screen Rant itself.
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so 3 episodes in, and im pretty happy with the heroes turn around. what do you all think so far?
Honestly, im not disappointed. But I was discussing it with some friends. They have killed off a lot of characters. What happened to ever black character on the show. Ok.. The Haitian will come back. But what about Mika (I Hated that kid but still would like to know) and his cousin who could do crazy things, simply by watching them. I dont know, im enjoying the storyline so far but there are some questions that need answering. Like whats the deal with Peter and his crappy, one power at a time power..?
Heroes has lost me for now.
yea ive been wondering about micah myself. atleast peter acknowledged the change in the second episode. I was pretty dissappointed that they seemed to just let it happen. hopefully well get an elaboration on that soon. The cast needed trimming tho and micah and his cousin were def outside the main story arc.
I could see Micah being The Rebel, his power gives him the ability to manipulate technology, maybe he is spying on the people trying to catch the Heroes, and letting them know about it? hahaha, probably not but it could happen
Slow movie news week?
Heroes: I could see the possibility of Micah being Rebel. It is someone on the inside that knows Claire.
And yes, I like the turn it has taken so far.
Legend of the Seeker: I’m done with that show. The number of liberties they’ve taken on the book is too much.
BSG: I like what they did with Ellen. Can’t wait to see what happens next week!
Movies –
Push: Well, I saw it late at night and I kept falling asleep! I did enjoy it though when the pace picked up and hope that I can find out what happens next.
Yeah, bit of a slow news week, J BIZ.
I’m liking Heroes this season, at least they’ve gotten rid of the schizophrenic feel of the previous one when it comes to “is he bad or is he good.”
The Micah = Rebel idea is interesting, I don’t know how many years have passed by on the show since we’ve seen him but I would think he should at least be a teenager for this to make sense.
Vic
A few of my movie blogger friends who live in LA got to see Watchmen last night – and every single one of them is saying it was incredible.
Vic
I wish i was a few of my movie blogger friends who live in LA
Thats GREAT news Vic!
So…..
When are you going to get to see it Vic?
ie : Watchmen
@Larry
Don’t know yet. No doubt just a few days before you will.
Vic
In regards to Heroes. If Micah were to hook up with Ando. Together they would wreck absolute havoc on the governments plans. They could put Nathans hunter squad into the dark ages.
Oh and what’s with this that Mickey Rourke will definitely not be in Iron Man 2. This is just turning into one roller coaster ride of disappointment.
I’ll be writing up that Mickey Rourke story soon.
Vic
I am an 80 year old retired photographer who has been shooting stereo slides since 1952 with the same Stereo Realist camera. I would like to make a few comments on the current 3D controversy.
Apparently someone or something has somehow created some kind of mass hypnosis that has taken hold of all reporters doing an article on the renewed interest in 3D. If one or two would fall under this hypnotic spell, that might be understandable, but when 99 percent are infected with the same fallacy, it becomes downright wierd.
That 99 percent of which I speak are somehow under the impression that the 3D movies of the fifties were presented on a single strip of film encoded with two of the primary colors red and blue. And that these anaglyphic films were viewed through cheap cardboard glasses with red and blue cellophane filters. I cannot think of one first run 3D feature film of the fifties that was presented that way. They were all presented by a synchronized two projector system through polarizing filters and shown on a silverized screen so as not to depolarize the images. The glasses were also polarizing filters that separated the left and right image. And, when the projectionist did his job properly (which seldom was the case) the 3D image was superb. Cardboard red and blue cellophane filters were usually reserved for cheap 3D ads and comic books. Since not many, if any, of these reporters were even alive during that time, one can only conclude that they were too lazy or untalented to do the proper research on the subject and just repeated the total inaccuracies of some other hacks. Why work at it when plagiarism is so easy. One amusing aspect of their deception is the fact that most of them use the exact same terms to describe the quality of those glasses and the quality of the headaches those glasses supposedly induced. All of this would be more amusing if it were not for this type of reporting causing the destruction of the trust we once had in our newsmen and newswomen. When I was a child all we had was radio, but when some newsperson we liked said something, we knew we could take it as fact. Unfortunately that is no longer the case.
The same was true of the proper use of the spoken word. When a trusted newsman like a Walter Cronkite pronounced a word, we knew that it was correctly pronounced and we could safely pronounce it that way and not seem illiterate. Today, too many of the people who get paid to speak correctly are somewhat illiterate and don’t even know it.
A case in point is the word “height”. Too many people today pronounce it “heigth”. As far as I know there is no such word as “heigth”. At one time, a well paid illiterate probably reasoned that if the words were “length”, and “width”, then the other measurement must be “heigth”. The frightening thing is that it caught on. It really pleased me when I heard our new President pronounce the word correctly the other day. Had he said “heigth”, I really would have been shaken.
Even more frightening is the misuse of the word “healthy”. We are constantly being told that we must eat “healthy” vegetables to get the proper nutrition. Eat “healthy” foods they keep saying. Who would knowingly eat a “sick” vegetable or a “sick” food? What these well meaning people mean is, eat “healthful” vegetables and “healthful” foods.
The educational system in this country is a disgrace. It may be even as bad as the economy. Let us hope that our new President has the help and cooperation he desperately needs to get us back to our rightful place as the greatest country on the planet and to have the coming generation be able to put it into the proper words.
Anyone have an opinion on 24 this season. I think it’s terrific and as good as it ever was. Last year was a bit of a let down but I love it this season.
chuck
entertainmenttodayandbeyond,
I DUMPED 24 last year,
But I am BACK with a vengeance this year!
Its been EXCELLENT so far this year!
IMO, of course.
Hey Vic
Do these bloggers who saw Watchmen last night think this is a big mainstream film or just one that will appeal to the fans of the graphic novel. I must admit the trailers don’t do it for me. Im not familiar with the source material and I don’t find the trailers exciting. I know many film fans who have had the same reaction. These are movie fans who don’t really read blogs and are not in the fanboy crowd. I must admit I hated Sin City and don’t really like the graphic novel look so Im curious as to how my reaction will be. DO you think this film will do a $150 million at the domestic box-office. I say it will fall short. Just a gut feeling.
chuck
Really enjoying this season of 24.
As to Watchmen, they didn’t say. The studio puts an embargo on movie reviews so they can’t say much prior to the date they can publish their reviews.
Vic
Lost is so great. Abrams has a faithful, sophisticated audience that he trusts with just about any storytelling approach. Flashbacks, flashforwards, stories-within-stories, time shifts, visions, apparitions, voices, talking birds, security systems, foreign languages…
I love the image that Abrams gave a few years ago, after the first flashforward. He said that LOST was like a tapestry made up of many distinct sections, and we were seeing one section of the tapestry filling in, plus random pieces from other sections.
I love seeing the pieces fall into place–and now that I’m able to “sort of” predict where things are headed, the execution is par excellence. At one point each mystery telescoped into just further questions. Now the answers are of such import that they don’t just resolve curiosity–they open realms of wonder and awe.
Anyone else going ga-ga over this series?
As for 24, I’m liking it. I don’t like the actress who plays the president–too much like “Captain Janeway.”
Something that 24 has shown me is, I can never understand the gravity of the issues and decisions and distractions that come up for the country’s chief executive.
Prediction: Tony will choose to embrace the dark side, and/or will die–really die–valiantly in a last second show of heroics. The promise he made to Jack about turning himself in, is too much for him to bear (and Jack should never have forced him to agree).
@ Chris Mohr
I don’t blame the education system, I blame the parents and their upbringing. I don’t care how good a school is, you can’t make a child that doesn’t want to learn to pay attention and take it seriously.
I went to public schools, the worst schools, in fact, located in the most ghetto of neighborhoods. I learned quite a bit because I wanted to learn. But if you look at the kid sitting next to me in the same classes, he got all F’s while I got all A’s. Why is that? A bad school? No, it’s the students that don’t care. The majority of kids now don’t give a crap about learning when they get to school. It’s all about trying to be popular, wearing trendy clothes, and getting some ass. Until parents these days teach their kids that THEY are responsible for their own actions, for their own FAILURES, the kids will not care.
We live in a, as Clint Eastwood put it, p***y generation where even the losers get trophies, everyone is accepted into the sports teams even if they can’t play, and punishment is not even allowed.
People are under the impression that when something goes wrong, there is always someone else to blame. That’s why kids don’t care if they do poorly in school, because it’s not their fault, it’s the school’s fault.
And when the few politicians that truly want to help by raising the standards, they call him/her a racist, trying to hold back kids from poor neighborhoods or whatever. Then parents complain to the SCHOOL when their child fails the tests and is held back. HOW ABOUT COMPLAINING TO THE CHILD FOR NOT TRYING HARD ENOUGH?? Hello? Are we all retarded now or what?
I know if I had a child and he came home with F’s on his report card, he’s not doing ANYTHING fun for the next YEAR until I see nothing but A’s and B+’s. And it better be more A’s than B+’s… The LAST thing I would do is go to the school yelling and screaming like it’s their fault my kid didn’t pay attention. If one person in the class was capable of getting an A, all of them are. I doubt that one kid has psychic abilities and was able to get information from the teacher that the rest of them couldn’t.
Anyway, I don’t know anything about the 3D technology back in the day so I can’t comment on that…