Open Discussion – August 5, 2009
Aug 5, 2009 by Vic HoltremanIt’s Wednesday again, time for our regularly scheduled open discussion post.
As usual – talk about whatever you like as long as it’s related to movies, …
It’s Wednesday again, time for our regularly scheduled open discussion post.
As usual – talk about whatever you like as long as it’s related to movies, TV or Screen Rant itself – just remember to play nice. 
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@gottarhyme
I will happily give money to people who CAN’T support themselves, but not to those who can but WON’T.
Vic
“Especially in this recession borne of capitalist greed.”
This recession was born out of a congress unwilling to check and balance their precious Fanny Mae and Freddie mac. The government “forced” private business (banks) to make loans to individuals for homes which they had no business getting the loans for in the first place.
Please, before you start ranting about our country and how bad our capitalist-based economy is please read up via informed credible sources.
And please give examples of American poverty. The poor in this nation mostly have a TV and a cell phone. No one is in the US is in abject poverty. Abject poverty implies no hope for change. In America there is always a chance to rise up out of poverty. Unlike 75% (rough guess) of the world.
This is for those unlucky souls who missed the “Iron Man 2″ footage at Comic Con:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtiNT1_Zayk
Wolverine fans Jackman confirmed tonight at the Teen Choice Awards the next Wolverine film will take place in Japan.
@INK
You said it man.
@gottarhyme
You can’t force people to WANT to work through policy. A lot of these homeless people you see in these shelters are not incapable of working, a lot of them are UNWILLING to work, there’s a difference. I said a lot, not all BTW before you get on my butt about that statement, lol. Most of these homeless shelters have an employment office where there’s a city paid employee sitting there with a book full of employers willing to hire uneducated help for low paying positions or temperary workers. So the opportunity to work for their own money is there, but I remember seeing a special where they interviewed some of these individuals working there and they say they VERY RARELY get anyone who even bother walking in there. They simply go straight for the free food, then straight out the door.
Why bother breaking a sweat and working when you can survive without doing so? That’s the problem here, you see people living in Section 8 (government helped low or no income living) housing that’s living better than people like me who have to work 60 hours a week. It’s not that we don’t give enough to the unemployed and homeless, it’s that we give too much, they have no real incentive to work. If they’re really starving, they’ll do what they need to do to survive, and if that means working to fill their bellies, they will, but right now, they don’t have a need to. So why bother?
When welfare pays better than a minimum wage job, what’s to motivate someone to get off welfare and actually work? And the more babies they bring into their poverty, the more money they get, then when those babies grow up, they get on welfare and they have more babies to get more welfare, and it goes on and on and on…
A lot of the homeless need to be cared for in hospitals because they’re mental, but those services were taken out of federal budgets during Reagans term.
A lot of the homeless nowadays are there because of the depression.
Ken J–starving the people who don’t want to work will not force them to work…they’ll be in your neighborhood stealing what they can. You cannot force these people to work by removing their food. They will find a way without working. If we don’t feed them, they will feed on us. I think I smell a good script…hm…
790 so true. The majority of these ppl are mentally incapable of holding down a job due to serious mental issues. What do other countries with socialized medicine do for the mentally ill homeless?