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  • taylor
    edgar wright sounds cool, but a bunch of guys would be refreshing. hell if robert rodriguez wanted to deliver us a fresh hardcore spider man that would be dope, but thats probably not going to happen. i think carnage would be nice to see, but if you put him in sm4 then hed be a hard act to follow, so maybe lizard is a good idea for 4, id say keep toby just to satisfy all the movie fans, and if they bring back venom, PLEASE dont mess up so badly as they did in s3 that was very angrifying. casting isnt really my specialty though, but i could go without seeing so much mary jane crap, maybe a gwen stacy twist is in order.
  • Larry Fettinger
    Ok I dont know how many of you actually read the comics then watch the movies but me for one am a big stan lee fan. Now you want my opinion for the 4th movie??? Two words will explain everything the 4th movie should be and you comic book fans will know exactly where i am going with this: SEPERATION ANXIETY
  • future avp director
    yeah i would love to see Toby come back as spidy, he is a great spider man, but Sam forgot the big issue, he let he's personal thoughts get in the way, by killing off Venom one of the most popular enemy's. So they should bring in some one who is truly a great spidy fan.
  • mike
    I don't think maguire was bad at all at playing spiderman. Word in hollywood was that they originally wanted freddie prinze jr. to play the character. I frankly don't care too much about mary jane. if you ask me they brought that character in too early. They should have introduced either in the 3rd or 4th film. But in a movie needs a revamp of its cast it is definitely x-men. Halle Berry as storm? I don't think so. When are the suits going to call on iman as a replacement. frankly, it's probably best because i can't see iman starring in a movie they has been watered down for 10 yr olds.
  • dave soccer f
    okay, first off i would keep the cast b/c everyone loves familiar faces. Same director and same everything. it would cost a lot, but this will bring in a lot. the villain would be none other than the lizard . peter would be just getting his life back together after the events in 3, and spending more time with dr. connors. connors new experiment turns him into the lizard in front of peter's eyes, and peter has no choice but to battle him. the battle takes place all over new york city.d
  • Star wars 1977
    Panda:
    Good idea that's pretty much what I was thinking they should do. Three villains was a little bit too much because Venom was underused. I heard they'll make a spin off movie with him though.
  • Panda
    Ok - last night I watched S2 and S3 back to back. I hadn't seen either except in the theatre.

    I will admit S3 was better the second time around, mostly becuase I didn't have high hopes for Venom like I did the first viewing. S2 was still fantastic.

    S4 could explore more of the symbiote, explaining a little of how Brock new so much about Parker (implied in S3 but not explained at all) and redeem the lost opportunity somewhat. Open up for Carnage in a later movie, but stick with an old villain like Lizard for S4. Really liked the actress who played Gwen
  • 790
    Sounds good to me DB.
  • dominic babcock
    well they should just have spider-man venom and carnage in the fourth movie because im thinking that thats what the fans would want and it would just be pretty fricken kool
  • Woobzee
    Well i would have to bring back Tobey He total rock in spidy 1-3 and for the other actors i would suggest to bring back them back also but for a new villains for 4 would be the lizard since now that you introduce him i spidy 2 as Dr.Conners and the other villain that would team up with or against the lizard would be carnge, why not him i mean venom had great effect in 3 but why not carnge have the samething,besides he is total more destructive and dengerous then venom so i would agree to have the cast back for a more and better movie.
  • Dan
    my mane compaint about spidy 3 was venom his form was rubbish he didnt even have the famous tenticals that come out of his back. harry in his really cool suit (that should have been more green or he should have been the hobgoblin even tho i loved the look)died what rubbish is this.
  • 790
    How's Spidey supposed to fend off all those attackers in one film?

    FnA
    Wtf????
  • Jonathan Cornejo
    Villians throughout the Spiderman movies (1 to 6).

    If I majored in Fliming, succeeded in flim and game directing, and directed Spiderman, then here's how I would represent most villains in Spiderman 1 to 6.

    This list would include movie and video game villains, with some modifications of course. ;)

    Spiderman 1

    Green Goblin (movie and video game)
    Scorpion (video game)
    Kraven the Hunter (video game)
    Vulture (video game)
    Shocker (video game)

    Spiderman 2

    Doctor Octopus (movie and video game)
    Shocker (video game)
    Rhino (video game)
    Mysterio (video game)
    Puma (video game)
    Bettle (video game)
    Vulture (video game)
    Kraven the Hunter and Calypso (video game)

    Spiderman 3

    Hobgoblin (Roderick Kingsley, movie and video game)
    HobgoblinII (Donovan)
    New Goblin (Harry Osborn, movie and video gae)
    Rhino (video game, briefly mentioned in movie)
    Shocker (video game)
    Scorpion (video game)
    Kraven the Hunter and Calypso (video game)
    Lizard (video game)
    Sandman (movie and video game)
    Spider-Venom (movie and video game, possess Peter)
    Kingpin (video game)
    Hobgoblin (Ned Leeds; video game)
    Carlyle (video game)

    Spiderman 4 (villians mostly based on Halloween and darkness)

    Venom (Forms: Black spiderman, humanoid, monster; movie and video game appearance)
    Lizard (normal and corrupted form; movie and video game)
    Shriek (normal/corrupted form; movie and video game)
    Scarlet Spider (movie and video game)
    Carrion (video game)
    Hobgoblin III (video game; Ned Leeds)
    Mysterio (corrupted/normal form)
    Insidious Six (video game aftermath of movie: Rhino, Shocker, Doctor Octopus, Mysterio,
    Kingpin (video game)
    Carlyle
    Chameleon (video game)
    Jack o Lantern (Jason Macendale; video game)
    Man-Wolf (video game)
    Hydroman (normal/corrupted; video game)


    Spiderman 5

    Venom (all three forms; movie and video game)
    Carnage (three forms; movie and video game)
    Kingpin
    Jackal/Miles Warren (movie and video game)
    Scarlet Spider (movie and video game)
    HobgoblinIV/Demogoblin (Macendale; video game)
    Hobgoblin (Kingsley, video game)
    Alistaire Smythe (video game)
    Shocker (video game)
    Electro (video game)
    Silvermane (video game)
    Tombstone (video game)
    some villains previously seen...
    Richard Fisk..

    Spiderman 6

    Green Goblin (demonic/armor form; movie)
    Hobgoblin (demonic/armor form; movie)
    Spot (movie, video game)
    Miles Warren (movie and video game)
    most villians previously fought...
  • Jonathan Cornejo
    Going back to Spiderman 1, I would've added Liz, Peter's, Harry's, and MJ's other friend. I liked the Goblin suit since its appearance can be described as a prototype.

    In Spiderman 2, everything worked prefectly. I would've revised some concepts of its videogame though...to make it more canon-like and exclude GBA's Lizard.

    In Spiderman 3, I would've basically introduced the symbiote, not Eddie Brock or Venom, Hobgoblin, Sandman, and New Goblin.

    Main changes

    -Introduce the symbiote only to serve as being Peter's struggle with love.
    -Introduce Spider-Venom.
    -Discard Eddie Brock and Venom until Spiderman 4.
    -Have Harry and Liz ultimately fall in love.
    -Introduce the mysterious and unknown Hobgoblin.
    -Have Hobgoblin and Sandman team against Spiderman and New Goblin.
    -Have Hobgoblin kill New Goblin.
    -Have Harry save Peter from the symbiote by banging the ring.
    -Make the movie and the video game very canon and less loose.
  • Panda
    KEL
    You may be right. I think S3 pretty much closed the Goblin/Harry Osbourne arc. But I hope there is a Spiderman 4 movie, the beginning of a new trilogy
  • Graham
    YES,YES,YES TO THE RHINO!! ONE OF MY ALL-TIME FAVE BAD GUYS!
    ONLY THING IS I WANT TO SEE HIM SHOW UP IN A FUTURE HULK MOVIE & UNLESS MARVEL PULL SPIDEY BACK INTO THEIR MOVIE MAKING WORLD I GUESS THERE WOULD BE TOO MUCH HASSLE TO GET HIM IN BOTH FILMS.
    THINK WHAT SPIDEY MOVIES WOULD BE LIKE IF OTHER HEROES COULD CROSS-OVER. HELL, IMAGINE A MASSIVE EPIC FILM WITH ALL THE MARVEL HEROES BATTLING GALACTUS! THAT COULD BE BIGGER THAN STAR WARS!!
    I NEED TO GO LIE DOWN IN A DARK ROOM NOW!
  • 790
    E gads. I just realised Tobey Maguire is working on Robotron for the better part of this year.
  • KEL
    I'm certain that there will be another Spider-man movie, I just don't think it will be a direct sequel to Spider-Man 3.

    And Kingpin, Rhino or Vulture would be cool....
  • Andy
    I actually have really enjoyed all the Spider-Man movies, even though I thought 3 was by far the weakest of the trio. I would love to see a Spidey 4 with Tobey as Spidey. Jonah is PERFECTLY cast, no reason to change him, either. I would LOVE it if they got rid of Kirsten Dunst as MJ. I thought they really miscast her in the role of MJ. Mary Jane should be HOT, she is supposed to be a model/actress, right? I just think Dunst is kinda plain looking. Back in the early 90's I thought Hunter Tylo would have been PERFECT as MJ, but I would love to have them get a hot, unknown to play MJ in a limited role. I know it's not going to happen, but hey, I can hope!

    As for the villian, I really think it's going to be the Lizard and Carnage (or a Venom return). I like the idea of Kraven the Hunter, as well.

    In the future, I would love to see Spidey crossing paths with Daredevil or the Fantastic 4. I think the DD crossover would be more plausible (NO BEN AFFLECK, PLEASE!) because it could tie in the Kingpin into the story and in the comics Spidey and DD have both battled the Kingpin.
  • 790
    900 mil, sheesh.
    One reason they made that much is because alot of people were happy with the storyline and casting.
    I hope they do make at least 2 more with Tobey.
  • Jamie Williams
    KEL,

    You are probably right about Raimi and Maguire being done for good (I've said that myself!) But SPIDER-MAN 3 made $900 million.

    Sony is going to make SPIDER-MAN 4, like it or lump it! There's just too much $$$ at stake.

    Jamie
  • KEL
    ....and I'd prefer to see the Shocker among other bad guys.
  • KEL
    Here's what I predict will happen with this project:

    "Spider-Man 4" will never be made, it will go into development limbo for about 8 years or so and will will eventually become the start of a NEW Spider-Man film franchise with no continuity to the previous films.

    Good thing too, IMO. Raimi ain't coming back, and neither are Maguire and the rest of the cast. Sounds like it'll be a NEW Spidey series to me.....but it won't be for a while yet.

    There will definitely be more Spider-Man movies, I just think that "3" is the end of the Raimi/Maguire era.
  • Here's my pitch for Spider-man 4. As far as who stars or directs I think there are many great suggestions above, but to me the key is it being written well first, then getting a director with a vision who has great respect for the source material.

    Pitch for Spider-man 4 and beyond
    By Ted Lehman Copyright 2007 © 11/4/07

    Peter and MJ’s relationship is going along smoothly after the incident with Venom and Sandman. MJ is still working at the Jazz club but has been auditioning for more acting work on and off Broadway as well as taking the odd modeling gig when the opportunity arises.

    Peter is doing great in his college work and is a senior about to graduate in a few months. Gwen Stacy is still his lab partner in Dr. Connors class where Peter is Dr. Connors #1 Student as well as his student assistant.

    Everything is going along smoothly when all of a sudden Dr. Connors disappears. Gwen gets her dad Captain Stacy to give the missing persons case a high priority. At the same time there are alligator in the sewer sightings, and alligator-man sightings all in the vicinity of recent thefts around the Bronx Zoo and certain chemical labs and medical research facilities.

    Peter and Gwen find out through talking to Dr. Connors wife that he was working in secret on a formula to enhance human cell regeneration, to ultimately re-grow his missing arm. [Here we learn the story how he lost his arm.]

    M.J is still jealous of Peter’s relationship with Gwen although she tries to minimize it and “act mature about it”. However it is putting a strain on their relationship and she confides in Aunt May about it. Now that Harry is gone Aunt May is her closest family besides Peter. Because she has nothing more to do with her own abusive father and her mother who allowed her husband to abuse both of them their whole life Aunt May was M.J’s first choice to share her troubles with. Aunt May is close to MJ’s Mom who is now divorced from her father.

    In the mean time Jonah Jameson is having a field day with the Alligator in the sewer story and wants Peter to get some pictures of the animal. Peter goes after the creature as Spider-man and finds out that it is not an alligator but some kind of a human-lizard hybrid. He has a battle with it in the sewer but ultimately looses. The beast’s strength and agility was a something Spider-man didn’t expect. In the battle he finds a connection between the creature and Dr. Connors. [he finds something from his lab coat] When he brings the pictures back to JJ he is excited and comes up with a scheme to get a lot of press, sell a lot of papers. JJ hires, the world’s greatest wild game hunter, “Kraven the Hunter” to come to NY and hunt the Lizard man. This puts JJ at odds with the NYPD and Captain Stacy who feels it’s the police job to find and capture or kill “The Lizard“ JJ’s new name for the creature to use in the Daily Bugle.

    Peter and Gwen eventually confront Dr. Connors wife and find out the whole truth about Dr. Connors experiments, and the two begin working on an anti serum to change Connors back to human form before the change becomes irreversible. The longer Connors remains the Lizard the more Lizard-like he becomes, the more evil and ruthless, and animal like. So far he hasn’t killed any one but soon he will. We also find out that all the thefts are Dr. Connors trying to perform his own experiments in his new lab in the sewers to reverse his metamorphosis and become human again and get back to his loving wife. But with each day it becomes more difficult for him to think and more difficult to use the tools of science, test tubes, and pencils anything that requires manual dexterity. As his brain clouds he becomes more animal-like and more evil. Eating rats in the sewers and coming closer and closer to killing others to get what he wants.

    In the mean time now Kraven has arrived in NY and there is a huge press event at the docks where Kraven’s ship docks. Kraven has a huge ego and has no doubt that he will capture the Lizard quickly. [I think Dwain “The Rock” Johnson would make an excellent Kraven]. Captain Stacy reminds him to stay with in the law and that he is not sanctioned by the NYPD, JJ bleeds the conflict for all the press he can, and Peter and Gwen realize that the Lizard must be captured alive before Kraven can get to him. Or else Dr. Connors life will be ruined.

    So Peter decides that he not only has to come up with a serum in the next 48 hours but he must keep the police and Kraven from killing the Lizard as Spider-man.

    Mary Jane decides to confront Gwen as she becomes more jealous of Peter and her relationship as they have been spending a lot of time working on this case to help Dr. Connors. As a result Gwen feels like she is causing Peter additional stress so she pushes Peter away. She tells him that she doesn’t want to get between he and MJ which confuses Peter even more as they are right in the middle of this whole thing. Gwen begins to search for the Lizard on her own thinking she can reason with him. She finds something in Dr. Connors Lab that helps her find the Lizards lair deep underground in the sewers. Unfortunately her attempts to reason with The Lizard fail and she is captured and tied up so that his secret won’t be revealed. The Lizard is having more and more trouble thinking straight and he is loosing his human side as each moment passes.

    Spider-man heads to the next place he thinks the Lizard will strike a Medical research facility and catches Kraven and the Lizard in battle. Spidey fights them both trying to protect Dr. Connors and keep Kraven from killing him. As a result the Lizard gets away and Kraven gets angry. Spider-man confronts Kraven and warns him to stay away from the Lizard after he tries to recruit Kraven as an ally. Spidey finds out that Kraven has a blood lust and only wants the thrill of the kill, a new head on his trophy wall and his fees for bringing in the Lizard. Kraven is angry and warns Spider-man to stay out of his way or he will also wind up on his trophy wall.

    This battle allows the Lizard to get away with another chemical to complete his rejuvenation serum although he has more inner conflict as the Lizard assumes more and more of his human side. A great deal of property damage and hurt civilians resulted from this battle and JJ goes to town blaming Spidey for the escape of the Lizard and also beating up the NYPD for not being able to handle their responsibility to capture the Lizard. Captain Stacy now realizes that his daughter is missing and starts a manhunt for her and the Lizard and confronts Peter as to where she is. He blames Peter for getting her involved in this whole thing in the first place.

    Peter is also feeling the pressure from MJ regarding the whole situation with Gwen and not being attentive enough to her problems with her career. Again Peter is too involved as Spider-man to realize that MJ is on the verge of another big career step as a major model and has been asked to go to Paris to further her career. MJ can’t seem to get a word in edge wise to tell Peter let alone discuss it and her jealousy is getting her more and more angry with him.

    As Peter is now aware that Gwen is missing he feels torn in all directions as he continues to go through Dr. Connors notes and works on a treatment. He has not slept for days when he finally comes upon the missing element he needs to transform Dr. Connors back into a human again. He also realizes that the Lizard must have a lair and that Gwen must have stumbled upon it. If he could figure out what Gwen found out he might be able to get to them both before Kraven does.

    Finally Kraven decides to set a trap for the Lizard deep in the sewer using a live animal that he steals from the zoo. At the same time the NYPD also decide to stalk the Lizard in the sewers armed to the teeth to kill him on the spot. In to the middle goes Spidey with the serum to save Dr. Connors and Gwen before the others get to him.

    Spidey has an advantage he now knows where the lair is and the others don’t so he gets there first to find Gwen tied up but still alive. She tells him that Dr. Connors is getting worse and that he left a few minutes earlier heading for Kravens trap and right towards the NYPD swat teams on the hunt for the Lizard too. Spidey show’s Gwen the way out and heads off to get to the Lizard and administer the antidote before he gets captured or killed by the NYPD or Kraven.

    Needless to say they all wind up at the same place at the same time including Gwen who is worried for Dr Connors, her dad, and Spidey.

    A large battle in sews where Spidey is trying to dose the Lizard with the antidote as he tries to protect Gwen and Captain Stacy and deal with the increasingly angry Kraven who now will do what ever it takes to kill the Lizard and Spidey.

    The battle winds up above ground where eventually Spidey gives Dr. Connors the antidote and hides him before anyone can see him transform back to Dr. Connors. Spidey then has to subdue Kraven and restrain the NYPD and protect Gwen before anyone else gets hurt. When it is all over Spidey takes Dr. Connors back to his wife and warns him to keep this a secret. Dr. Connors agrees that his experiments were too dangerous to ever try to repeat and he goes into his lab and burns all his notes.

    Gwen and her Dad survive as do the NYPD although some are in pretty bad shape but will recover. Kraven is ultimately blamed for, the theft from the zoo, the property damage and is sewed by the city and lambasted in the Daily Bugle as a menace along with Spider-man. The fact that the Lizard has disappeared completely doesn’t help. Kraven is deported and forced to leave NY but swears vengeance on Spider-man who he believes is now his mortal enemy.

    Peter also finds out when he returns home that MJ has left for Paris to model and has no plans of returning. In a letter that she leaves for him she says that it is too hard being the girlfriend of a superhero but she will always love him. She says that she knows he has a great responsibility and she doesn’t want to get in the way of that.

    Peter sits alone on his bed…

    The end
  • J. Hamilton
    Ok, guys. My $.02: Main villan is the Lizard. But, while this mystery is unraveled. Felicia Hardy and her mother move into the old Osborne penthouse. While looking for the information on the Super Soldier formula that Felecia's grandfather stole, a hired burglar stumbles on to clues leading to Osbornes other Goblin lairs wher he eventually finds what he needs to become the Hobgoblin. His benefactor allows him to keep the Osborne/Goblin equipment as long as he works for him. (Much like the animated series.)All this sets up for a future film with Black Cat. At the end of the film the benefactor is revealed to be the newly parolled King Pin. (Same guy as in Daredevil.)
    But don't forget we still want to see Bruce Campbell as Mysterio sometime!
  • Marq
    The only way SM-4 would be the slightest bit interesting is if Joel and Ethan Coen directed it.
  • Panda
    I wish Sam could do a real directors cut eliminating Venom. I wanna see what his original vision was for S3
  • 790
    Yea its pretty obviouse that Sam did that Snowdog.
    But critics aside I thought Spider-man 3 was real good even with all the mistakes.
    If that's the last one with Tobey they made 3 damm good films.
  • Snowdog
    Thanks 790. According to the Spiderman Chronicles (very expensive book about the making of Spiderman 3) - the studio originally envisioned a 3 & 4 back-to-back, but abandoned the idea due to the aggressive release date of Spidey 3. I think Sam had no choice but to fit all this into one movie. The Vulture was originally cast as the (Ben Kingsley actually in talks to play the part) - but treatment changed to Venom.

    I'm spend way to much time on this stuff...
  • 790
    Yea I agree Panda about Parkers real-life probs getting in the way of fighting crime! (It was a main theme in the comics)..

    If "they" would have just made it not such a big part of the first 3 films.

    With some good editing the first 3 films could have trimmed some of that out. But (IMO) Rami and the Studio wanted to attract not just guys 18 to 40 they wanted to make Spider-Man a date/Family experience.

    Let's hope Nolan dosnt do that....
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