‘Olympus Has Fallen’ – SR Underground Ep. 84

Published 2 years ago by , Updated February 15th, 2014 at 10:25 pm,

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The Screen Rant editorial team is back with episode eighty four of the Screen Rant Underground podcast.

Join host Ben Kendrick fellow SR editors Rob Keyes, Anthony Ocasio, and Kofi Outlaw as we review Olympus Has Fallen, answer mailbags, discuss a rumored Transformers 4 synopsis, a possible Game of Thrones prequel series, and address the question: can Avatar 2 actually ‘deliver the goods’?

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Screen Rant Underground: Episode 84 - The Incredible Burt Wonderstone

We review Olympus Has Fallen, answer mailbags, discuss a rumored Transformers 4 synopsis, a possible Game of Thrones prequel series, and address the question: can Avatar 2 actually ‘deliver the goods’?

[0:00] News: Unofficial ‘Transformers 4′ Plot SynopsisJames Cameron: Avatar 2 & 3 Must Deliver the Goods‘Game of Thrones’ Prequel Series Being Considered By HBO.

[56:09] Rants and Raves: Mailbag [Casting a Back to the Future Remake & Do Reviewers Look at Movies Differently?].

[1:23:01] Review: Olympus Has Fallen (Read our full Olympus Has Fallen review).

[1:39:26] Olympus Has Fallen SPOILERS Conversation.

[2:07:23] Twitter Handles and Contact Information.

[2:09:11] Game Rant News Brief

Hosts: Ben Kendrick, Rob Keyes, Anthony Ocasio, and Kofi Outlaw.



Next Week’s Review: G.I. Joe: Retaliation

Last Week’s Official Box Office Battle Reader Winner (Oz the Great and Powerful opening):  After a 5-way tie between Sam Howard, Professor Procrastination, Cody, TheDurrr, and Chris A, Professor Procrastination nailed the tie-breaker securing the win.

Opening in theaters this week (Wide):

  • G.I. Joe: Retaliation (on Thu.) – 3,500
  • The Host (2013) – 3,200
  • Tyler Perry’s Temptation: Confessions of a Marriage Counselor – 2,000

Opening this Week in Theaters (Limited):

  • N/A

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  1. Box office battle
    1 gi joe retaliation
    2. The croods
    3. The host
    4. Olympus has fallen
    5. Oz the great and powerful

  2. Box office battle
    1 gi joe retaliation
    2. The croods
    3. The host
    4. Olympus has fallen
    5. Oz the great and powerful
    10 The Incredible Burt Wonderstone

  3. The Game of Thrones thing, I´d do a couple of miniseries, 10 episodes each, where they cover the most important events. The rise of the Targeryans, and all the big battles they had in that time. That way people´d understand better the mythos and relevance of the stuff happening now in the main series….I´d watch a good story, I dont care if its Game of Thrones, thats a plus.

    • Wow! A Disney-led Matrix franchise would be hilarious. Could you imagine?

  4. Beast Wars:Transformers, that is all

    • Seconded.

  5. 1. GI Joe
    2. Croods
    3. Host
    4. Oz
    5. Olympus
    10. Burt wonderstone

  6. I would say that most reviewers view films differenly. A lot of movie reviwers talk about set pieces, how it was shot (like dealing with shakey cam and stuff like that) , and other things the average movie goer doesn’t care about. But it’s not a bad thing though because it offers more discussion.

    • I definitely agree with that point. I think it’s great that there are so many voices out there these days. I don’t agree with all (or many) of them. But, I think it’s great that moviegoers have so many to choose from.

  7. 1 – GI Joe: Retaliation
    2 – The Croods
    3 – The Host
    4 – Tyler Perry
    5 – Olympus Has Fallen
    10 – Burt Wonderstone

  8. Another great episode guys. The chemistry between the four of you is what makes this podcast so great. Four friends hanging out talking about movies. Awesome.

    That said. I only have to say I hope to god there is never a remake of fast times at ridge mont high. That movie is a classic and there should be aaa or something bout remakes haha it’s one of my all time favorites.

    As for back to the future I had read somewhere it might have even been in a open discussion but I can’t remember that Ellen page mcfly would be cool and I completely agree. She’s awesome an why not change some things if your redoing a classic.

    Oh I also finally checked out red dawn remake. Not a great movie but it’s a really fun watch. Chris hemsworth is te man. That guy is freaking awesome! Speaking of is the Thor 2 trailer still slated for April 2nd?

    • Thor 2 trailer will probably be hitting around the time of ‘Iron Man 3′ – that seems like the most likely launch point for it.

      The Ellen Page idea is actually pretty great. I would watch that!

    • I ultimately liked the film more than Kofi – which we talk about on the next cast (we recorded today). Overall, I think we all agree it’s still pretty brainless but is definitely more crowd pleasing than the original – with a much better tone.

  9. 1. G. I. Joe Retaliation
    2. The Host
    3. The Croods
    4. Oz the Great and Powerful
    5. Olympus has Fallen

    10. Jack the Giant Killer

    • And Im glad Anthony defended that Avatar was sh*t.

    • Thanks for the links!

    • I actually covered that some over at GR – and wondered the same thing. I like the designs but am kind of hoping that the ‘Ninja Turtles’ version is even a little darker/edgier.

      Definitely a good starting point though.

  10. Transformers: I don’t care about any of the Transformers enough to be interested in a movie that is only about them. Human characters are a must for me. Oh, I don’t care about dino bots either. They are too silly a concept, even for movies about giant robots that transform into vehicles.

    Avatar: Avatar’s appeal doesn’t have anything to do with 3D for me. I only saw it once in 3D but multiple times in 2D, and it blew me away every single time. Sure, the story has been done before, but that doesn’t matter considering how perfectly it’s interpreted in Avatar. I rather see an old story that works in a new way than getting a new story that sucks ass. Besides, nature is still being ruined by ruthless companies who would cut down the last tree to make a profit, so you can’t tell that story often enough.

    Game of Thrones: I don’t care about a prequel, or any prequel for that matter. They usually ruin all the mystery and wonder of characters and their backgrounds.

    Reviewers: People who dabble around with notes while watching a movie disqualify themselves from actually reviewing it. How can you properly judge a movie when you actively distract yourself from the experience that it’s trying to create and miss half the movie while writing down notes?

    Roland Emmerich: All of Roland Emmerich’s movies have plenty of light humor, so I don’t think he takes his films seriously. He just doesn’t take the completely silly route, like Michael Bay does for example, so they retain an air of serious drama. I like his stuff.

    • I think you might be right about Emmerich – especially after watching that ‘White House Down’ trailer. Looks pretty grounded this round – maybe it’ll strike a better balance than some of his other films.

  11. I really dug the discussion about reviewers and how they view movies. I think as time has gone on and I’ve seen more and more films, I’ve definitely changed on how I see them. The Red Letter Media Mr. Plinkett reviews of the prequels really changed the way I critique films.

    I can still get really excited about the big summer blockbusters like Star Trek, Dark Knight, Man of Steel, etc. but I actually find myself looking forward more to awards season and all the Oscar contenders and seeing movies from guys like Martin Scorsese and David O. Russell when just a few years ago, I would not have that mindset at all. I’m always looking for films with good stories and memorable characters and if a film has that, there’s a chance it will stick with me. Doesn’t matter if it’s a big budget spectacle or an awards contending drama.

    When I was a senior in college, I wrote a term paper about the history of special effects in films and discussed how as the technology became more evolved, the storytelling in these huge films devolved (with some exceptions, of course). Nowadays, while I do love a good summer blockbuster, I find myself looking at different elements of films. I’m more interested in acting. I’m more interested in production design and if everything looks “real.” I noticed that Roger Deakins is doing cinematography for the new Hugh Jackman film, Prisoners, and I got excited to see how it would be shot. To really impress me, I need more than explosions and fancy CGI. I need a solid script and strong characters. I guess that’s what happens when you see so many movies per year.

    • Agreed. I think movie fans do tend to dig into a film more and expect it do more than simply have cool action, etc. The more films you’re exposed to the more you realize that the best movies manage to touch all the bases – and those are the movies that we get really excited about.

      Of course there are exceptions but you’re examples are good evidence of blockbuster movies that also tell good character stories.

  12. #1 The Host
    #2 G.I. Joe: Retaliation
    #3 The Croods
    #4 Temptation
    #5 Olympus Has Fallen
    #10 Jack the Giant Slayer

  13. I won the Box Office Battle?

    To my mom, my wife, my boss, and my five month old son:
    You all said I’d never amount to anything, but look at me now! I’m a winner. :D

    Now, about this urban legend that is known as the Green Lantern podcast…is that a joke or do I actually get a download?

    • You are a winner!

      The Green Lantern podcast will be given to a few people – based on overall scores for the entire year though.

      I’m sure we’ll release the thing to anyone who wants it at some point but… our winners will get first dibs (around Comic-Con time).

  14. Box Office Battle

    1. G.I. Joe Retaliation
    2. The Croods
    3. The Host
    4. Tyler Perry’s Temptation: Confessions of a Marriage Counselor
    5. Oz The Great and Powerful

    10. The Incredible Burt Wonderstone

  15. 1 G.I. Joooooooeeee: Retaliation
    2 The Host
    3 The Croods
    4 Tyler Perry Tempt
    5 Oz
    10-Jack The Giant Slayer

  16. Wow, now I feel ashamed at how little I noticed the dumbness of Olympus Has Fallen during my viewing. Still enjoyed it immensely though. :)

    I think it’s a bit difficult to imagine any Avatar sequels matching the success of the first one. Avatar had a huge boost from the “3D Event” craze and audiences are just so used to it now. I guess it depends on how well James Cameron is able to make Pandora feel new and fresh again, along with a story worth telling.

    • Well, you didn’t have Rob “Canadian Secretary of Defense” Keyes to point out all the plot holes to you – so no harm, no foul!

      I’m 100 percent with you on Avatar 2. I’m willing to accept that it’ll be memorable but I’m not convinced it’ll recapture the same magic as #1.

  17. Nicolas Cage as Doc Brown! Genius!

  18. Your description of “Olympus Has Fallen” sounds very much like “Under Siege” with Steven Seagal, but with more ultra violence. Steven Seagal also fought Tommy Lee Jones in a knife fight at the end. The parts that Ben felt were missing sound more in line with “Air Force One” where the President’s family was threatened.

    Another great podcast guys! Sometimes your discussions of a movie are more entertaining than the movie itself. I’ll definitively wait to rent “Olympus” rather than waste my money at the theater.

    • Good call on the Under Siege + Air Force One idea. It does kind of work as a combo of those two!

      Glad you enjoyed the discussion!

  19. Just by the way, Wheeljack died in TF3 they called him Que (the old looking robot). Unicron would be sh*t in a movie and i hope Ba sticks to his word saying he won’t ever use that character.

    • Yeah, I remember Que was supposed to be Wheeljack. I wonder if they could legit bring Wheeljack in now though.

  20. 1 Gi Joe retaliation
    2. The Croods
    3. Olumpus has Fallen
    4. The host
    5. Oz the great and powerful
    10 Jack The Giant Slayer