Comments on: Oh Joy… Superman vs Lex Luthor… AGAIN

By: Quicksilver

Quicksilver — Wed, 21 May 2008 20:23:49 +0000

this was my point exactly. supes had to be somewhat reintroduced on the big screen because it has been about 22 years since we last saw him, (besides, not alot of people remember the last superman flick that christopher reeve did in 1986) therefore, they had to have lex luther in super returns. i’m 100% ok with that because it makes sense. but to continue to have lex as supes antagonist in the next film is truly BORRRRRRRING. my point exactly.

By: Vic

Vic — Tue, 07 Aug 2007 23:09:23 +0000

“I surely won’t be going to the theater to see another Lex Luther movie where seemingly The Man of Steel is only a supporting character.”

Ha! Well said, indeed!

Vic

By: Jim Miles

Jim Miles — Tue, 07 Aug 2007 13:49:56 +0000

Enough with Lex Luthor already !!!! There are so many cool villains in supermans’ universe to choose from , I just don’t understand why the fixation on Lex . It’s getting predictable and boring . I love Superman , but as with the last movie I surely won’t be going to the theater to see another Lex Luther movie where seemingly The Man of Steel is only a supporting character . Nah , I’ll wait on the DVD release and rent it.

By: Vic

Vic — Fri, 13 Jul 2007 22:28:12 +0000

They won’t do that. It would make the movie R-rated.

Vic

By: Chip Chief

Chip Chief — Fri, 13 Jul 2007 22:15:11 +0000

Or maybe they can have Supes drop the F-bomb. That would cool him up.

By: Vic

Vic — Fri, 13 Jul 2007 22:13:35 +0000

Oh, God… the LAST thing I want is MORE “emotionally tortured” Superman!

Vic

By: Chip Chief

Chip Chief — Fri, 13 Jul 2007 22:03:34 +0000

In Superman 3, evil Supes was a drinker

So, is everyone expecting that Superkid will save Superman eventually? What if Superkid became evil and Superman had to kill him. That would be a surprising twist.

By: Vic

Vic — Fri, 13 Jul 2007 22:01:28 +0000

Chip,

Of course you’re right, but I think it’s a case of what the sum total of the individual parts adds up to. :-\

Vic

By: Chip Chief

Chip Chief — Fri, 13 Jul 2007 21:55:28 +0000

But drinking beer seems like a small offense compared to being a deadbeat dad. Its not like he got drunk. Maybe they think its “cool” to drink beer and have bastard children.

By: Vic

Vic — Fri, 13 Jul 2007 21:53:08 +0000

Yeah, I forgot about the “beer scene.” It really seems like they went out of their way to tear down the mythical/traditional aspects of Superman…

Vic

By: Rev

Rev — Fri, 13 Jul 2007 21:49:08 +0000

What they need to do is get people to realize that the “DC” logo that shoots up in the beginning of all of the movies isn’t just there for looks.

Bring in a Batman villain or even someone like Sandman would be amazing. As for Doomsday and Bizarro — great villains, but I don’t think the `mob` could handle that ( It’d end up reminding them of Star Trek )

Alot of people are mentioning Superman’s kid, but the thing that stuck out to me was the fact he’s supposed to be the mascot of American comics ( especially now that ‘Cap is gone ) and they had him drinking beer.

Chip Chief: You’re right, bringing in Ras was risky– but that wasn’t him. They character portrayed in that movie was nothing like the one in the comic.

Reverend

By: KEL

KEL — Thu, 12 Jul 2007 01:06:06 +0000

I really don’t want this movie to be delayed,I just think someone else should do it. The first one had some good things about it like Routh’s Superman,the music,the costume,Spacey’s Luthor (he was better than Hackman,who can do serious,but that’s not what the makers of 1978′s Superman wanted),the effects,etc. But there was more bad than good in it for me,stuff like Jason’s existance and Richard are the main things that really ticked me off. In fact,the only thing worse that the writers & director could’ve done to Superman than making him an un-wed father,super-absentee-dad,would’ve been to have made him return to earth and discover he was GAY. So,I don’t know about you folks,but I’m not too comfortable with the same writer/director team working on this one.

By: KEL

KEL — Wed, 11 Jul 2007 22:11:38 +0000

Hey,ya know what,I’m actually really glad that Lex will be back (how he gets off that island, I’ll never know). But he should not be the mian villain in the new movie,and from what I’ve heard from SupermanHomepage.com he isn’t. Matter of fact,I believe that the plot involves Braniac finding that crystal continent in space that Supes threw in Returns,and that Metallo is in it. I say bring it on. If they do anything with Lex,they should make him less funny and smug,and make him eviler,like the John Byrne version. Singer did a lot of dumb things with SR,like Jason & Richard,but the movie wasn’t as bad as it could have been. I don’t think Doomsday would fit this Superman series that great,don’t know why,but I just don’t. I would,however,like to see more action in this sequel,you know,Supe’s punching things and stuff,and if Doomsday will make that happen then do it. It just doesn’t make sense,Superman Returns then dies again,nah.Maybe they’re going to try a Luthor/Braniac hybrid thing like on Justice League Unlimited. But anyway,please don’t make the same movie again,Bryan. Superman really doesn’t need that,you did enough damage to him in the first film.

By: adrian

adrian — Wed, 11 Jul 2007 18:01:13 +0000

With Lex in this one, have him help Sup because of a being that is stronger and more ruthless than himself. I love to see any of the TRUMP villians like Brainiac, Darksied and his Army, Mongol and the War Planet.Then have them create Doomsday or Gog from DNA splicing. Brian Singer should take a page out of Jon Fav. book and ASK THE FANS!!! Hard to lose that a way!

By: Zachary

Zachary — Wed, 11 Jul 2007 17:04:30 +0000

You got to be kidding me? Lex again? I was litterly asleep during the last superman movie. I just don’t like seeing Lex fighting sups.

For one, because Lex is a human and Sups is a freaking god in some sense. If it really came down to it, Superman could end the whole thing in one hit. But nooooo, they had to extend it and extend it and exten..d…it. *Falls alseep* See! It happened again! Hah. But for real, Like the others says any other villian would be find. I would preferre Doomsday. At least he can pose a enourmos threat to superman in the end and hopefully make a decent movie.

By: Vic

Vic — Wed, 11 Jul 2007 15:31:44 +0000

Rob,

Singer has done some very good movies. “The Usual Suspects” is fantastic and I liked his “X-Men” movies. I just think he approached Superman maybe with a touch to much “awe.”

I don’t see how having Doomsday in a Superman film (done well) could be anywhere near boring!

Vic

By: RobD

RobD — Wed, 11 Jul 2007 15:26:15 +0000

Oh yea, the son is not effected by Green Krytonite. There’s his catch that will somehow allow the son to save the father.

By: RobD

RobD — Wed, 11 Jul 2007 15:21:51 +0000

I think I have it figured out. Considering Brian Singers’ obsession with continuity…

Lex finds the shard of GK with Supes blood on it. He clones him and makes Doomsday or Bizarro. Obvious and boring, just like Singer. The wildcard is Supes son, he has to figure into it. Perhaps his blood or hybrid DNA saves Supes in the end.

By: Alcadyzaar

Alcadyzaar — Wed, 11 Jul 2007 14:47:45 +0000

Vic-
Many of us have…. or wish we could…. forget about III and IV.

CC-
Dittos on the Smallville villainizing and Ras al Ghul. But do you really think the world is ready for Doomsday?

I remember reading in a Wizard Comic Guide circa 1996 when there was hype about a new Superman movie (this of course was after Chris Reeves’ accident), where they were going to take footage from the first 4 movies with Reeves and digitally add Doomsday, but instead of dying Supes gets paralyzed. Viola, Reeves reprising his role as The Man of Steel (however breifly), then using technology from the fortress, transfers his powers to a worthy apprentice (at the time, they were trying to get Nic Cage cast as the new part). Obviously, it never got off the ground, but I always thought it was a great idea bringing in Doomsday (as long as they tell the origin of Doomsday =) Anyone know/remember??) and it would have been a great memorial to Chris Reeves legacy.
But now…. I don’t know.
Doomsday was the ultimate foe. You have to respect him. You can’t just bring him in and have him easily disposed of. The death of Superman brought in the Cyborg, Eradicator, the cloned Superboy, and John Iron as Steel. The MONTHS later did Clark get revived. That’s alot of story lines to cover, unless its rewritten, then it just wouldn’t be the same.

By: Karyyk

Karyyk — Wed, 11 Jul 2007 14:38:18 +0000

Braniac…Darkseid…Doomsday…Metallo…

Anyone but Lex.