Oh, God… Aliens… Vs… Predator… 3… Is Coming
Mar 10, 2008 by Vic HoltremanAccording to horror news website ShockTilYouDrop Aliens vs Predator 3 is going to be made. Here’s a quote from the site:
“An anonymous source over at …
According to horror news website ShockTilYouDrop Aliens vs Predator 3 is going to be made. Here’s a quote from the site:
“An anonymous source over at 20th Century Fox got in touch with us over the weekend to relay the news another Aliens vs. Predator sequel is a ‘certainty’ at this point. If you recall, the brothers Strause – who helmed the Christmas release Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem – stated Fox was going to take a ‘wait-and-see’ approach to a third chapter, furthermore, that the story would have to continue in space.”
Just shoot me right now. Please.
Haven’t they tortured us enough?
Between the weak Alien vs Predator and the heinous creation that was Aliens vs Predator: Requiem I had truly hoped this franchise was dead. Ah, but where there’s even a meager amount of money to be made, a movie franchise will never die (can you say “Freddy” or “Jason”?).
It only made $129 million worldwide, and overseas crowds must have liked it more than folks in the U.S. because here it only earned $42 million. In case you don’t know, for a movie like this that is WEAK. They must have made it on the cheap for it to have shown a profit. First time directors and no name actors probably contributed to that.
I guess the DVD release of the movie is right around the corner and they’re anticipating good sales on that. No doubt they’ll have an “unrated” version… When is it coming out? Who cares!
I don’t think there is a snowball’s chance in Hell that this movie could possibly be good at all, but I’m sure they’ll come up with some spin or director that will once again fan the flames of hope in fans of both franchises. Like a girl you have a crush on that keeps saying she’ll go out with you and then cancels at the last minute, I’m sure that the next film will leave us beaten and disappointed. Again.
Hey, maybe they can get Brett Ratner to direct it, wouldn’t that be cool?!
Source: ShockTilYouDrop via TheMovieBlog
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Its pretty freaky to think that any day now I could go on Screen Rant and see the headlines.
YEP, ITS THE END OF THE WORLD, THERE WILL BE A ALIENS VS PREDATOR 3.
Sheessh if I’m drivng my car, I might just plow past that wooden security barracade right into that nuclear power plant that I allways drive by in the morning.
Cause it will be the end of the world anywhay, WGaS?
If they shoot this on a spaceship I hope they get thrown into the Delta Quadrant with the film crew still on board… Borg Fodder. ¤-|
It might be interesting if Stallone and M. Night Shamalayn became part of the avp movies. With Shamalayn their would be all kinds of twist.
Lauren Ashley, I would get the dvd just to see the behind the scenes footage of there magic collaberation….
Who knows Stallone and Shamalayn could be the next Speilberg/Lucas…..
If you could see my face right now it would look like. «:-O
That would be interesting 790. What a strange mix, Stallone and Shamalayn. Might never know. My face might look the same.
Neh, Stallone’s abs will make me barf 2..
they might even make the Aliens barf.
avp 2 its already a barf i still prefer stalone than the unexpirience director of avp 1,2
I shouldn’t even be here, but a guy needs a rest from time to time…
I’m in a meeting and I can’t resist.
Stallone and Shamalayn!?!?!?!!!???!?!!?/
Sooooo sad…
Though it would be like this : Stallone, Ripley’s great, great grandfather, battles the first on site Predators. While battling for his life and his 4 man crew 3 of which naturally die (an Un-natural death), he escapes on a pre-programmed vessel built by the Predators to send warriors to defeat a near by planet full of ALIENS. John Ripley (not very intelligent, didn’t know how to reprogram the vessel to head back to earth before it went to hyperspace) is en route to the neighboring planet Veszda (dorky name I know) with his crew who is hiding in the weapons room.
Clemens Dryer (nerdy dude), finds a way to send a signal to the colonial fleet before they go into hyperspace. The fleet recieves the signal sends every man, woman and child (ok not child) to rescue Ripley’s crew and wipe out the Predator Home world. (humans always have ONE big kick ass neutron-plasma-superduper-state of the art-nuclear bomb to send living thing to hell). Ripley and crew arrive to an ALIEN infested world which used to be a neighboring plant for Predators.
All hell breaks loose and only Ripley remains, fighting his way off of this planet as he receives signal from the fleet that they’re there to pick his sorry ass up so they can destroy that planet too.
Barely escaping, Ripley is finally taken onboard one of the fleets vessels. On his way to sick bay he catches a gimps of a facility which has humans in green liquid filled tans. As they are treating his wounds he passes out. When he recovers he stumbles back to where he saw that lab, enters, looks around and sees all the humans look JUST LIKE HIM.
He’s a copy of a dozen others… with a shock on his face, he walks backwards till he walks into a scientist who stands behind him and says :
Scientist
You’re not the first we made, but you’re the most successful. You see John, you’ve been dead for 8 years now. Died on our first attempt to recover Alien technology. Sadly it seems however you’re too expensive for the company, so we’re ending the program and replacing you with the new Hyperdine models.
John Ripley
This is bullshit!!
Scientist
This, John is your replacement, cheap and efficient.
A familiar face emerges (Bishop).
Scientist
I think we’ve gotten everything we need out of you John. Time to rest.
Looks at the person who stands next to him.
Allen, (Bishop lookalike) take care of him.
Allen
With pleasure Sir.
THEEEEEEEEEEEEEE END!!!
As lame as this story is, is probably how lame it would be to see M. Night and Stallone work on this project.
Ok I gotta go back to my meeting… which sadly isn’t as exciting as a Sci Fi story meeting…
Yeah Stephen, I think the Stallone/Shamalyan idea began is a joke on this thread.
Stallone’s working on Rambo (whatever) and Shamalyan, (who cares). Both of them I’m sure would have NO INTEREST in working on this “franchise”.
I like your synopsis, but anything would be an improvement over mindless Alien reproduction and Predator’s acting like lobotimized Klingons on Safari.
“Predator’s acting like lobotimized Klingons on Safari.”
Dude that’s the best I’ve heard today!
I know it was just a joke, but I’m bored and this meeting is taking forever. Sometimes I swear, certain directors just LIKE to have meetings doing absolutely nothing.
But yes, Rambo V seems to be more or less a serious discussion now and well… I hate to say this but… Alien Vs. Predator 3 is also very likely…
And here’s the real kicker… the main reason why they are pushing for a 3rd film is because, while it may not break box office numbers, it DOES quite well on DVD and get ready… does VERY well in the gamin industry. So if they make a 3rd installment of AvP, it’s because they can make a bundle off of merchandise and games.
So… how likely is this? Very… last time I was at 20th century fox, those I talked to were seriously pulling hairs out of their sculls as they told me the company was serious about a 3rd one.
So serious that they were asking to set it up asap even before they had a script for the 3rd episode. That says a lot on how they handle these movies.
I mean come on… part 2 was called Colorado Nights (which was a fake working title but I’m sure if it was a real film it would have been better than AvP2.)
Just for kicks I’ve penned out a Predator 3 story a while ago… We should all join forces and make the best damn Predator 3 story ever! New, exciting, back to the roots… and trying to separate AVPs with the Predator movies.
Man I feel like watching part 2 now. Miss that big bastard and his clicking sounds… k k k k k k k k k k k (D D D D Danny Boy…) k k k k k k k…. (Sh SH sh IT aappennnnssss) k k k k k k k k k
(insert whip sound, duh dung duh dung duh dung) k k k k k k k
:/
Wow you must have been really bored in your meeting Stephen. Very creative I must say. You have writer potential. I can’t wait to see what you type next. Yes it would be sad if we had Stallone and Shamalayn. I would of never thought of having a parent character of ripley be on the movie. Shows what little I can come up with.
LaurenAshley, Stephen IS a script writer!!!
That’s all I can tell ya!
And also I say this, they can pass another AvP out of there creative ars but I for one will not pay to see it.
(Big band music playing).
LaurenAshley,
Let me tell ya, the hardest thing about writing that silly synopsis was typing on an iPod Touch! Yeah I typed it all on my iPod Touch and I’m sure there are a million spelling errors… But when there is a free WiFi nearby and I can go online during a meeting, it does check for mails. When I’m in a meeting, I then check the usual places and Screenrant is one of them.
Thanks for the compliment though
Trust me if I had to write a serious story for an Alien or Predator movie it would be a lot grander and more complex.
I’m now writing the massive To Do List. All the things we’ve discussed at the meeting. And while I’m doing that… I’m listening to Indiana Jones And The Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull. The score is good… but I can still feel quite a few places where Mr. Williams has actually borrowed from his previous stuff which is pretty strange. There are moment on the CD where you hear elements from War of The Worlds. I hate to say it but, his scores haven’t quite been what they used to be.
But I love his work all the same.
I heard something about him composing Bryan Singers Superman II. I’m excited of course… but… then it would have been cooler if he’d done the first Bryan Singer Superman.
Aaanyway… I really WAS bored at the meeting… I just couldn’t show it… I had to nod at the right time, smile and laugh and occasionally say “Noohhh really? Awesome or that’s far out!”….
Nah it’s all good… they’re my friends, but today they were not really taking work too seriously and eating and drinking a tad too much. So the meeting took way too long and we’re probably going to have to resume this on Friday.
790,
This is what I once overheard at “XXX” (no it’s not a porn company) offices. Well more or less, my brain has embellished quite a bit..
Mr. John Doe
I really don’t give a rats ass…
Mr. Icare Aboutfans
But we’re making them worse, it’s horrible compared to the originals
Mr. John Doe
You see, for every fan who loved the original ALIEN movies and chooses to ignore our new more “action packed made for the next generation” Alien movies, another fool is introduced to our concept and will LOVE it!
THE SENIOR EXECUTIVE SITS DOWN THE YOUNG APPRENTICE AND CONTINUES
These kids today don’t usually watch OLD movies and for them we have OUR NEW and IMPROVED ALIEN movies. The back catalogue will serve well for DVD sales and point of reference.
Mr. Icare Aboutfans
So we’re disrespecting the original stories and creators?
Mr. John Doe
No. No. No… Not at all, it’s such a negative word… We’re REINVENTING the franchise or stories to be more suitable for the younger generation. We Reboot failed concepts, because these kids can’t remember if we’ve failed or not. As long as we market it as if it’s the first time this has EVER been done, they’ll eat it RAW!! Get the point?
Mr. Icare Aboutfans
I think I do… So how about a remake of Back To the Future trilogy, with a girl instead of a boy and a time traveling Dog?
Mr. John Doe
Son, you’re gonna get far in this business… Keep them golden nuggets comin’!! You got the stuff! THE RIGHT STUFF!! Yeehaaww!!!
ACROSS THE STREET AN ANGRY FAN IS POINTING HIS SNIPERSCOPE AT THEM… WEARING ‘SPOCK IS MY HOMEBOY’ T-SHIRT… AIMS AND FIRES!!
THE BULLET RICOCHETS OFF OF THE EXECUTIVE’S THICK SCULL AND HITS HIS STUFFED PET BEAVER IN THE NUTS!
I think I’m still bored… :[
Hey Stephen, its funny you took that angle, I was thinking the exact same thing.
Your post reminds me of a meeting at OCP, (robocop).
The old man is totally out of touch as the young execs are just looking at the bottom line.
Clearly nobody cares about a good script when it comes to the AvP franchise. I think a good script would go against their market research.
JB, I have a great script for the new AvP film. “What a good script, haha. It dosnt matter its AvP,” ….
How did this happen?
You had to mention Robocop…
See that’s in line for a remake…
Sad but true…
Stephen,
Wow I didn’t know you were actually a screenwriter. That’s freakin sweet. I am a avid writer myself. That fact that you did it all on your ipod touch, wow. I dont think I could do that. The sniper shooting the stuffed animal in the nuts was prure genius. Doing that and sitting at the meeting takes quit the multi tasking skills. I am impressed. I wish I could do all that at the same time.
This could be bad for OCP…
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Here’s my pitch.
The new ALIEN VS PREDATOR 3
and its NOT called Aliens Vs Predator 3. Gheesh
Call it
“Predator, The Xenomorph War”
Takes place completely from the Predator point of view.
There are NO humans in the film..no Biship no Riply !
There’s is a laungage we hear but its in (predator speak). Kinda like what we’ve seen in the first 3 Predator films.
(Totally alien). And original!
It starts out on a Predator outer world colony where we see the Predator species has a structure and intellidgence of their own.
Out of nowhere come these pod type craft that contain the alien creatures.
The aliens are also an intellegent speices and you can tell without knowing what there saying by just watching there interaction.
The Aliens decimate the colony and leave for the Predator homeworld with our 5 hero Predators in pursuit!
You write the rest……
Worstcase the lame test audience dosnt get it you could have a backup subtitle cut.
What do you think???
I wouldnt know where to begin to write. I usually write mystery and suspense. I kinda have a hard time writing science fiction. I will see what I can come up with.
My advice LaurenAshley, write somthing you would like to see. Write what excites you, don’t write for the masses unless your under contract….
LaurenAshley,
My mind is tooooo creative for my own good sometimes…
I waste my time imagining alternative endings, come up with new stories and figure out what to do as my next project all in the span of maybe 10min. My mind races out there with ideas and I have to run after them sometimes. But some do get away, I have to be honest.
But seriously though, writing a silly story like I just farted out, basically is a moment to moment kind of a thing. If you feel inspired to write something silly you do that. You can’t always plan for it, because most of the time, best ideas happen when you least expected them. Then all you do is grab whatever you have near you and start penning out the rough draft. Then you do rewrites till it may even end up being something completely different but that’s ok, cause you’ve grown with the story. And the story grew with you. So it’s all about letting go of whatever silly thought you have right then and there… Once you’ve done that you can start spending time thinking about the details.
And yes, the iPod Touch does well in writing, but sometimes it’s a pain when you move a bit and it rotates the entire layout cause it thought you were taking a dive…
Now my good friend 790.
To your story idea : There are two ways you could do this.
One would be almost like doing a documentary kind of movie (imagine a video picked up by Humans from another world with what they’ve filmed). Almost like a Blair Witch kind of a perspective or Cloverfield only no one really talks into the camera except when the Predators talk with each other. What we’d see is basically them meeting the ALIENs for the first time and how they battle against them. (Sadly I think we’d need subtitles as most people CAN’T watch a movie with a foreign language let alone one that’s made up, no matter how cool it actually could be). And then even subtitles cause massive amount of allergic reaction on most people. So the way to get around this is simple… Use as little dialogue as possible. Make events tell the story and occasionally an X-file style informational text appears, indicating that those who found the video (us humans) have deciphered where they might be and what they might be doing. This would help aid the viewers on the journey.
Second, while I totally see your point of view and I’d watch it because it could easily be something like Apocalypto where they speak a language no one knows and even in the first test screening they didn’t have any subtitles. But then people freaked and needed them so they put it in there.
The second thing you could do is pen out the story in a way, that would give the Predators much more character and communication between each other. The basic issue would be that the audience needs to identify with what they see on the screen. I know it sounds a bit strange but if they can’t identify with what they see they won’t accept any of the characters at all. So this means you’ll have to make one of the Predators bare human traits and right there is the problem. If these Aliens (predators) come from a different world, how can you make them likable or even identifiable? The way they usually do this is having a human character be the bridge between them.
One way you could solve this and go on a compromise is by having a human character with an overwhelming value be the driving force of the movie. ONE human character which is put in a position where the Predators have to move him or her from one place to another because this person is impregnated with The Queen Alien.
This will allow the audience to feel sympathy towards this character as she or he didn’t ask to become a host. But via her we meet a sympathetic Predator who will protect her when they encounter a serious problem with the ALIENS en route to their facilities. This Predator could maybe learn to communicate with her and between these two we’d learn a lot more from the both of them.
The 5 Predator team could them be put in serious jeopardy as their leader dies and some are against saving this human. Inner conflict breaks out showing even more sides to this Predator.
Sorry to make it into a Human story, but unless the viewers are connected somehow, they can’t sit still… it’s a strange thing people do.
You can still have 80% ALIEN/PREDATOR war, but the 20% has to remain human to feed the audience.
Sorry it’s soon 5am here so my brain isn’t quite working anymore… Hope you get what I mean… BUT, I like the idea…
There IS one medium that could actually get away with your idea with no humans at all… An illustrated comic book could do this, because their readers aren’t as judgmental when it comes to new ideas as TV and Movie audiences. If Alex Ross did the art work, with some awesome scenes, you’d get it done in style.
I love that documentary idea!
I love it!
I hear what you mean (Apocalypto) totally, but I think you could give the Predators human characteristics by just showing them act like us. They eat, sleep do there jobs.
They could have been a semi-warlike race that was pushed to the brink where they had to become Predators to regain there status in the galaxy.
That would explain there hatred for the alien species that we’ve seen in the first films.
Thanks for taking the time to comment on that. Awesome!
My pleasure 790,
but now I’m going to bed, cause I have a meeting at 10 and I have to get up at 8. It’s almost 5am here so I won’t get much sleep… again..
I see Mr. Sandman has left his pixy dust bag next to my bed. He doesn’t even bother to try and make me fall asleep. He left me his sack and a baseball bat (last resort naturally)
Hmm, he left angrily… I’m sure if he could bust the door on his way out he would.. but he just levitated through the wall, giving me the evil eye…
Ok fellas, I’m out…
G’night you awesome people!
Why don’t u ppl just exchange phonenumbers
Leave your phone number Kwanto.
I think the problem with giving Predators human traits, is the fact that we can’t possibly understand. Honestly I don’t think the Predators feel anger for a species so far below their contempt. Do they even have a language? I think the original idea was to create an unstoppable creature that’s hellbent on hunting to the death, for pride and honour. Anything short of that would almost be a disgrace to the original idea and would have hardcore Predator fans turned off of the movie.
It would almost be like giving Alien human traits. Just because Predators walk on two feet and are humanoid in appearance does not make them anything like us. I dunno…
I think it’s gonna be very hard for Alien or Predator OR AVP to ever come back from this damage they’ve created :’(
Alan,
I know what you mean, that’s why it always HAS to have a human in the film in order to be the catalyst for having the audience interested and attached.
One thing I personally didn’t like was the ‘relationship’ between the female and the Predator in AVP. It was too much. Predator 2, on the other hand worked well because they showed respect for the OTHER hunter and that’s about it. But they were still menacing and the audience were still freaked about all those Predators on that ship as Danny had to flee before they flew off.
There’s ALWAYS a way to resurrect a fallen story… you just need the rights story, the right script writer and perfect timing. Then it’s back on track. It’s not that hard really… what’s hard is getting past the suits with an intact story, not one with a massive set of alterations ranging from changing the male to a woman, the dog to a talking seal, the father a mythological sea urchin and super human powers for the lead character. Sometimes you’d pass out laughing so much, if you knew just how retarded these suits can be. They just WANT to be apart of it and because they CAN, they often are a BIG reason why films don’t turn out good when you know it could have been a wonderful film.
But then that’s Hollywood for ya…
(Alan, maybe we should exchange phone numbers?). Lol.
^
Well Predators certainly have a laungage. Remember the countdown symbols on there wrist gauntlet?
They hunt for sport, not to eat. That’s clearly a human trait??? They don’t kill anyone that’s not armed. They don’t kill Pregnant women.
And when cornered they take their own life.
Sounds more human than Alien.
Since they call these stupid films Aliens vs Predator, I would expect an origin film that explains why there at war. That’s all!
(Just a side note of trivia, Stan Winston created the look of the Predator in one week).
Oh I loved the way the female and the predator teamed up in Avp. (That made the film for me).
I think the Predators come from a Matriarcal society,(Females rule their world).
They show respect for all female species (check all the films). “want some candy”
Speaking of suits ruining the movies. Remember that horrible remake “Wild Wild West” well it was a suit that said folks won’t mind if James West is played by Will Smith, because Will was on fire back then (until WWW came out). And also I’ve heard from more than one source that one of the studio heads son loved spiders, so this suit guy comes into the meeting and practically forced them to use the gigantic spider tank that’s in that film.
Halarious…………….>
I have to draw your attention to the first Predator Film, where Arny and Predator fought to the death, both unarmed. Also, Bishop was pretty much unarmed in AVP when the Predator killed him. I also believe Aliens do not possess any weapons, yet they are preferred sport for the predator.
If you really want to nitpick like that, I suppose you could say that Aliens possess human traits, as they tend to live in packs, expand at an alarming rate, and consume all resources in the area.
Yes, humans hunt for sport, but that’s not our only driving force. And we tend to only hunt when we think we can win. It can be an honour thing, but is not usually veiwed in society as honourable to kill for sport.
Humans, when cornered, don’t normally take their own life, and certainly don’t make an attempt to take out a mile radius. And the reason they take their own life is to prevent their technology from ending up in the hands of their prey, and to ultimately win the battle, and any cost. It’s almost an honour thing for them. I don’t recall anything like that in our society.
They don’t kill pregnant women, that is true. Is it because they want more prey for the future? Is it pity? Is it simply considered dishonourable? We don’t know. But I can tell you humans have killed pregnant women.
If you would like to know why Predators hunt Aliens, pay closer attention to the Predators’ driving force. They like to hunt, and they like to hunt prey that’s deadly. Aliens are the ultimate prey, as they multiply fast, have sharp claws and some weird second mouth thing that can penetrate Predator armour, and a long spikey tail. They hunt in swarms, and live in packs, and all they do is kill. So that sounds to me like a pretty honourable catch. The two species are not at war. One is having fun, the other is trying to survive
That “Want some candy” was a child being quoted. I’m pretty sure the Predator used that quote to taunt Danny Glover. I’m not too sure what you meant by offering that as proof of a matriarchal society. But there is really no proof that the species even HAS sexes, or sexes as we know. And the only reason the Predator accepted the human in AVP is because she killed an Alien, and Aliens are considered good sport. I personally liked the outtake when they’re taking the Alien carcass apart and the Predator makes the mouth shoot out and it scares the woman.
As for that “Do they even have a language” comment, that was kind of rhetorical. Yes, the markings on their arm units, or the tribal mark they put in their helmets in AVP, etc etc. It’s just not recognizable as a language to humans, as they tend to make odd sounds from their hunting purring noise, to their loud roars. There was actually a language developed for the Predators in the novel series apperently. I haven’t read anything of it yet, but that’s kind of interesting…
One thing I did like about AVPR is the fact that they went back to the old elephant-like Alien sounds, and the unfriendlier look of the Predator. I thought those were nice touches