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According to horror news website ShockTilYouDrop Aliens vs Predator 3 is going to be made. Here’s a quote from the site:
“An anonymous source over at 20th Century Fox got in touch with us over the weekend to relay the news another Aliens vs. Predator sequel is a ‘certainty’ at this point. If you recall, the brothers Strause - who helmed the Christmas release Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem - stated Fox was going to take a ‘wait-and-see’ approach to a third chapter, furthermore, that the story would have to continue in space.”
Just shoot me right now. Please.
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Haven’t they tortured us enough?
Between the weak Alien vs Predator and the heinous creation that was Aliens vs Predator: Requiem I had truly hoped this franchise was dead. Ah, but where there’s even a meager amount of money to be made, a movie franchise will never die (can you say “Freddy” or “Jason”?).
It only made $129 million worldwide, and overseas crowds must have liked it more than folks in the U.S. because here it only earned $42 million. In case you don’t know, for a movie like this that is WEAK. They must have made it on the cheap for it to have shown a profit. First time directors and no name actors probably contributed to that.
I guess the DVD release of the movie is right around the corner and they’re anticipating good sales on that. No doubt they’ll have an “unrated” version… When is it coming out? Who cares!
I don’t think there is a snowball’s chance in Hell that this movie could possibly be good at all, but I’m sure they’ll come up with some spin or director that will once again fan the flames of hope in fans of both franchises. Like a girl you have a crush on that keeps saying she’ll go out with you and then cancels at the last minute, I’m sure that the next film will leave us beaten and disappointed. Again.
Hey, maybe they can get Brett Ratner to direct it, wouldn’t that be cool?!
Source: ShockTilYouDrop via TheMovieBlog
198 Comments
I’d rather have them just make another “Predator” movie or another “Aliens” movie. Not that the lame crap that Hollywood seems to write these days would compare to the original films, but at least we might be able to get 2 decent films instead of one awful one.
Andy, I gotta agree. Even considering I thought Alien 3 was all wrong (mostly for killing off Newt and Hicks between films - all the chemistry the characters had developed to that point was wasted, and it just mired the whole film with an air of depression that turned me off) - it was still light years ahead of this garbage.
The first AVP ruined my childhood. The Second crapped all over my childhood. I never thought these franchises could possibly sink so low!
In my highly unpopular opinion, I think that Predator is a superior movie to Alien. The film doesn’t feel like a film, there’s some mystical, magical thing goin’ on with it. While Alien was superb I also prefer the sequal Aliens.
I just miss movies of the caliber as Predator and Aliens. This crap we have today just can’t compare.
Yea I agree with all 3 of you guys.
It would be great to see Predator and Aliens stand alone films…but…,This “VS” synergy really sucks if not done with some respect to both franchises… And so far repspect to story origins is out the window.
If anything Vic AvP3 couldn’t be worse than 2, if its in space, could it???
Unfortunitly for US the film did well overseas. Looks like its profitable so here’s comes the sequel…
Wow how things are off course these days… ¤¤¤ ?
What’s ironic about all this is if not for that Alien skull in Predator 2 we wouldn’t be having this post.
Someone please just make the bad men stop.
I just imagined a nice dinner scene between Ridley Scott, Dan O’Bannon, James Cameron and Sigourney Weaver. And while they talk about past times and enjoy a glass of wine they smile knowingly at each other and think to themselves: “We told them greedy bastards, didn’t we!”
ZAR.
SHAME ON FOX!!!!!
What’s really sad is that I loved the first set of comics and there was so much hope for the movie in 1993, until they canned it in 94 to make Alien Resurrection.
heath
Not another one!!!
Ok, that’s it! Kahless, take out your bat’leth and slice me up! Come on, you can do it!
I would be killing myself if I did that, petaQ!! :o)
I suppose original thought has left the building. But if Hollywood can’t think of anything original, at least pick something worthy. GEEZZZZEEEE!!!
Hey Everyone
I just read that the might be moving Iron Man Up To april 30th. Anybody else here anything about it?
I guess they already killed both series already, why not just milk this one instead of going out and finding something else to ruin.
Heath you know that Alien Resurection inspired Joss Whedon to create his Firefly show.
I’m just goin to let that hang out in the breeze.
Joss Wedon was the main writer on Alien Resurection.
*Correction*
Joss Whedon.
Guy has weird name.
That would be great if they moved Iron Man up to April 30!
holy crap, if i end up seeing this i will kill every one in the movie theater. when will hollywood learn?
“holy crap, if i end up seeing this i will kill every one in the movie theater. when will hollywood learn?”
-Adrian Suriel
Famous Last Words…
they need to keep them separate. both movies proved that they don’t mix well on screen. I would love an good old fashioned Alien movie in the style of Aliens, which is my favorite film of the Alien series. I watched it last night actually lol. Alien 3 is kinda depressing. I really like Michael Biehn and I wish he was in it. it is still a good movie though.
I would really love a new Predator movie.
I wish they would have done more predator movies when all the good directors were active. most of the new ones suck at making movies
Michael Biehn is always great in a military role. I thought Bill Paxton was great as a kind of comic relief in Aliens.
They should make another Predator movie with any one of these actors: The Rock, Jason Statham, Jet Li, Vin Diesel, Michelle Rodriguez (a different twist), or a number of other actors/actresses.
Yea they could do another Aliens film easliy. The last Alien film took place like hundreds of years after Alien 3.
There’s alot of Wayland Industries subplots that could be explored.
Great news!
Keep them coming and dont let the oh so serious brigade stop them.
get big Arnie back for a bit of fun.
Vic
If they’re going to make an AvP movie they need to do it with zero boundries. The first made the mistake of using a pyramid, LAME! and too much human involvement. The second, one city just isn’t going to cut it. Both Aliens & Predators have so much prowess you can’t clump them in any small amount. Lastly the aliens spawn rate in 2 even for a minor populated area was ridiculous. Better off to just go with an old style Aliens movie.
I could go for a AvP film based onboard a Predator ship. It would have to be a BIG ship. They could even have a ty-in with the Nostromo…
Remember that ship was drifting for years and it was huge. They could have landed checked it out and then had an outbreak and possible contamination brought onboard their ship. They take off and we get a Predators type of Aliens film.
The production would have to get NEW writers and a different director.
Alien and Predator canon would have to be followed this time and no more 2 hour spawn rate for the aliens.
Even that idea isn’t that creative but I would have rather seen that then Requim.
First off they should get Adam Baldwin back to reprise his role of Garber and he could be with the now weyland yutani corp. Maybe bring in Jake Busey to play peter keys son? still have it on earth but on a remote tropical island where they have the preds pod from AVP-R and the frozen but now thawed alien queen from AVP. with her now producing eggs. there is the usual catasrophy to allow the aliens to run a muck and a predator ship that looks like the derilic craft in alien and aliens with a spacejockey on board are transporting eggs to other hunting grounds, they scan earth for the heat and conflict they crave and see the aliens are running a muck on the island they cloak and land but the scientist notice the atmospheric disterbance and go to the ship and play a homing device on it. in the end the ship crashes on LV-426 and the last thing you see is the alien queen moving to the back of the ship and the camera pans back to reveil all the eggs and since there is a homing device on it this is how weyland yutani knows where the ship is and to bring back the life form.
I like that concept Craig…
Its too bad the producers arnt as creative.
I have sent it to FOX but they have a no unsolicited idea rule, so it probably ended up in the garbage.
In my opinion they would have to do this to merge the 2 franchies completely and then they would be free to do an AVP or predator or alien movie where ever and when ever they want. I have also sent it to 2 writing companies since they said I could but heard nothing else from them, I even sent a copy to James Cameron.
Craig try (Davis Productions in Santa Monica). There the main production company on aVp.
Keep in mind since your concept isn’t registered with DGA or SAG (I’m assuming) they can’t officially look at it but they can steal it…?
Camerons soo involved with his latest film that he’s out of touch for awhile. ,and he’s a big *#@£$)¤*€ jerk. And he’s also a *»¥%#’s.
I love AVP 1 and 2 please bring on the 3rd
I HATED the first movie, mostly because Paul Anderson is a talentless hack who’s managed to crap on two rather (Three if you put Aliens and Preds seperate :P) awesome existing properties (Resident Evil and AvP).
However the 2nd one, I felt, brought it back to the roots. You never cared about the human element. It’s thrown in for flavor. You focus minimally on that and a majority on the Predator and his quarry: The aliens.
If three takes and improves on what 2 did, then awesome. In my eyes the franchise is saved simply because two made an awesome, GORY (Say no to PG-13 bullcrap) movie with an awesome Predator.
Thank you jimmysmith! I just watched AVPR last night, after waiting for it since I heard there might be a sequel right after I saw the first one, and I was a little disapointed at first. That stupid love story and the human element just made humans matter in the AVP battle again. But after that blond got smoked by Predator, I liked it so much more! The gore and special effects were great!
if you look back at the first predator, tons of gore. And same with the second Predator. I was never really an Alien fan so I never did get in to that series, but I did like Aliens. I love how most of the main characters die.
Anyways, enough about my ranting. Here’s what concerns me about AVP.
I read a comic once that was STRICTLY AVP. Predators landed on a planet, I think there was 5 or 6 of them, dressed in full armour, and just went to town with Aliens. It was all in black and white, and it was all battling.
There was a small dialogue throughout the comic. The dialogue (I think, this was a long time ago that I read this) was a hunting trip dialogue between two humans, and added in a comedic element, but had no effect on the story. It was a brilliant comic!
Here’s the problem with AVP movies. Without dialogue, the movie would not be well liked to the masses, cause who wants to watch a silent movie. But with dialogue, you need humans. The director in the first AVP focused too much on the human element, and on making the movie likeable to the masses. Big mistake.
The second movie tried to get back on track more to the comics like what Jimmysmith said, but at the same time keeping that human element alive. Bigger mistake? So what the heck do ppl want??
They’re making a movie for people who are cult fans of a series, but unfortunetly, to make the movie profitable, it has to appeal to the masses these days.
Now, with Predator 1 and 2, those were action films. Alien, Aliens, and the Alien 3 were more along the horror movie line. That shouldn’t be that hard to mix. But now you have an awkward situation. You have taken 3 different battles and mixed them together. Alien VS Predator, Alien VS Human, and Predator VS Human. How do you do that, while appealing to cult fans, AND appealing to the masses??
I have not seen many good reviews for either movie, but I loved them both. I worry about the future of this series, as I would LOVE to see this really take off, but only successfully, as I hate to see this bashed by so many people
Nicely stated, bud. But in the end we all have our own opinions and as I’ve told people before, it’s free to start up a website and no one is stopping anyone from doing so where they can add their own voice to the web.
If I think a movie stinks, I’ll say so, just like if I think a movie is awesome I’ll say that as well.
Vic
Hey Vic,
Sorry I didn’t mean to sound like I was putting down anyone’s opinions. I totally understand, ALOT of people gave it bad reviews, and I can completely understand why. I think the only reason I liked it so much is cause all I care about is seeing Aliens and Predator on the same screen
Now I’m not even close to being done. I just had other things to do yesterday.
I think another major problem AVP has is who wins?? If Predator wins, Aliens fans and the masses are disapointed. If Aliens win, Predator fans and the masses are disapointed. If humans win, Predator and Alien fans are disapointed. And if they make it so all die, EVERYONE’S disapointed.
I think a better way they could’ve ended AVPR is to have had an Alien jump up as the helicopter was taking off, or maybe just sneak on to the copter’s landing gear bars, and have it attack once the chopper’s in the air and kill everyone, then have the chopper crash and show a scene of a dismembered Alien. But I think even by that point in the movie, it was too late to save it anyways :’(
btw, my thanks was to Chris, not jimmysmith, for his analysis of the 2nd movie. I didn’t realise ppls names are put at the bottom of posts.
Anyways, I think AVP is going to face so many problems, especially now that the first two have failed, which breaks my heart. I know by the third movie, people always say “Oh yeah the third one’s better than the first two”, and never “The third one ROCKED you should go see it.” There’s always that bit of negativity in the phrase, which will make it very tough to spread via word of mouth if the third movie is in fact good.
I think I almost agree with the few people that stated they should’ve just made a 3rd Predator. At least with Predator, you don’t have to concentrate on keeping a main character around through the years like Aliens (Sygourney Weaver). There’s so many ideas they could do for a third Predator too. I personally liked the mini-series “Dark River” which was sort of a sequel to the 1st Predator movie. Strange Rouge was good too, but a little on the weird side.
Anyways, that’s my several cents
I’m sure I’ll think of more on my walk home today. Bye for now
Vic
I don’t think there’s going to be another AvP film for a long time.
A lot of the dvd locations I frequent haven’t sold that many copies and the Juno stand is empty.
If Juno is outselling AvP-R, you know they got problems.
Hey Vic I forgot to tell you the dvd is Unrated and has 5 extra minutes of gore.(To explicit for theatres).
Gheeshh what a classy grp. :¤
Hey Alan (want to see a cool flick) check out Cloverfield. Its on dvd so you can skip around to all the good stuff.
It really does look good on a smaller screen.
I quit enjoyed avp and avp 2. But I do agree that the two franchises need to be split or kept apart. Who knows what could happen with a new predator or alien for that matter. It would be freakin sweet of we got a new one of each. Then everyone could get a taste of a new alien and predator movies. James Cameron would have a good mine to do it when he is not busy. Which is hardly no and days.
I would like to see new alien and predator movies
As someone whos never read the comics, and its been years since I’ve seen the first movies for each when I saw AVP2 in theaters o.0 i actually kind of liked it. Now i’m sure yall will have a field day with that but I guess I went into it expecting what I got.
These days, sequels remakes, spin offs, whatever they are they’re never going to be as good as the past ones. In fact its a rare thing for them to be ‘good’ by any standard so when I bought a ticket for this movie I knew very well I was going to go see a standard hollywood ‘horror/gore’ film. It made me laugh, it clearly made the people I was in the theater laugh and from what I could tell everyone in my theater at least liked it
Maybe they knew what they bought a ticket for as well? So if they make an AVP3 I’ll prolly see that as well. Do I expect it to rape the original? Yes, but if you know that, then see it, and then get angry over it..well thats your own fault isn’t it?
They’re going to keep making these movies,but so long as it keeps my attention I dont really care besides no matter how much people want to claim it was, it quite honestly isn’t the worst sequel ever.
God you guys are losers no one forced you to watch it it’s your own faults for going to see it and now all you’re doing is bitching~
I understand that you voiced your opinion Malorie. The reason we voice ours is because we have the freedom of speech. Just because we did does not make us losers. We are not bitching at all. I just joined this site and I like and I am glad that I can voice to others who feel the same way as I do. All of us on the site like to voice our opinion and we will probably continue to do so. We watched these movies because we wanted to do so. There is no wrong in that.
Sorry Michael we are not losers and no we are not bitching.
whats sad is that james cameron wanted to do an alien 5 with ridly scott….
but cameron saw the AVP concept as the nail in the coffin for anymore alien movies…
sad…with james back paired with ridley and reportedly weaver….holy s#$t….tag team was back again..
and alien 5 was going to show us where these creatures came from…that woulda been cool
alas…..fox gave birth to AVP…
not bad, but would have pref to see where each plot would have taken the 2 creatures seperately..
hope cameron has a change of heart…
dont blame him if he doesnt.
they havent left him with much to go on..
thank god fox dont own transformers….
aliens v predator v transfomers….
who ever wins nobody cares
Michael, nobody forced you to read any of the posts, and noone forced you to take the time to inform us of what “losers” we are for coming to a public forum to express our opinions on a movie to which this forum was created. I quite enjoyed reading everyone’s thoughts on AVP2, even though most were against the movie. To be completely honest, the movie did suck, but I still loved it. It’s like a horrible car accident that you just can’t help but watch lol
There were so many ways they could’ve done AVPR that would’ve resulted in a better movie. It breaks my heart :’(
Metman, I’m not even an Aliens fan, but DAMN I would’ve LOVED to see that almost more than another Predator movie. I thought Alien Resurection pretty much killed the Alien saga. Aliens was the best imho, but I’ve never seen Alien and didn’t much care for the lack of military presence in Alien 3. Also I like the “hive” concept of Aliens, how they set up shop, multiply and conquer.
I’ve heard from a few people who were in the process of making a deal with FOX about doing a final Alien movie with Ridley Scott and James Cameron (maybe). Sigourney Weaver had already said yes, because the premise for the story was pretty unique and I think that was what made her consider taking the role again. That and the fact that it would have been two of the best directors in the franchise.
I was really pleased to hear about it, till, at that time it was only a rumor, that Alien Vs. Predator was on the concept board.
It was birthed out of desperation to make a 3rd Predator. Somehow the idea never got further than one meeting where they probably pitched the combo. I honestly don’t remember the premise for Predator 3, because I might be mixing my idea with what was told that day. Was there a chance that it might have been a worthy 3rd installment of Predator? at the time, maybe not, because budget wise it wasn’t good enough. But on the flip side, had they gone with Predator 3, the idea would have been, that there was a moment in Predator 3 where ‘again’ we’d see the ALIEN scull. Only this time it would have been a preview to the 5th and final ALIEN movie. This is unconfirmed because I wasn’t there, but those who were said that they even talked about a sneak preview of a scene which would be a teaser within a movie for the 5th ALIEN. I’m thinking that the Wayland-Yutani company was finally given birth in the Predator 3 film as it was set in the near future.
And like Back to the Future 2 if anyone can remember that, they showed a trailer for the 3rd film right after the movie was finished. They would have done the teaser for ALIEN 5.
It was something like this :
After the epic battle was won with the help of Wayland-Yutani, and the movie ended… a familiar sound would echo through out the cinema with the same sounds as those from ALIEN. Same panning of the camera, ending on a distant planet… with the same computer typewriter style text on the lower left bottom of the screen indicating the year and planet’s name. Ending with the text saying… ALIEN 5 …
Again this was only a proposal so it never got made. But I think it got so much hype about the mix of the two movies that they ended up dumping the original idea and go cheap, doing a mix. Which is what they did.
I’m not a fan of the first Alien Vs. Predator so I never saw Alien Vs. Predator 2. I was upset that they used the Wayland-Yutani idea in the story and got Lance to be apart of it. But then, he was one of the first people to sign on just to be apart of the Alien franchise again. Lance is such a great person by the way…
And in conclusion, I think this act from FOX, distanced Cameron and Scott from doing the 5th and final ALIEN story.
I don’t know the details, but I do know that Sigourney was very disappointed. I can understand… The 5th Alien would have been really great. I read the treatment and I was really excited.
Thanks for all that info Stephen. I can tell your in the biz. Funny I read a spec script of the first Star Wars prequel years back and it was complety diffrent then Phantom Menance. (If I remember it was called Star Wars , Twilight of the Gods). It wasn’t too bad.
If the public could see some of the abandoned projects hollywood chokes on they would really be upset.
I for one wouldn’t mind a AvP film set within a complete Predator point of view. No humans, No earth. Just some farout planet with other lifeforms getting in the way or fighting along side of the Pred’s. I would do it in total Predator dialect. You wouldn’t even know what they were saying until you saw them doing it. Make it a fast paced quest for survival. Maybe having the preds loosing some of their weapons in a crash and having to use other means availible ?
Also, Personally I thought having Lance Hendrickson in AvP was really cool.
And Stephen if you didn’t like Avp I’ll warn you AvP-R is really bad. =¤.
Ps hope to read more of your posts!
Hey 790!
Thanks for your comments,
Well, I like Lance a lot (hmm sound strange to say it like that Lance A Lot) Anyway…
I just got upset that the story idea for Wayland was so mutilated. It was originally so different, I don’t see why they didn’t include it. But meh… like you say, Hollywood has a vault as big as the one in Indiana Jones the Raider of the Lost Ark. Remember? The ending… with tons of boxes? Yeah that’s all real… with abandoned scripts… I’m sure! ;p
I also read a very different draft of Star Wars Phantom Menace… and in that version Anakin wasn’t 7 years old. He was 14 and Padme was 16 (makes much more sense to me that way). There were so many things different about it, it was actually pretty good, except for the dialogue. But eh… you know Lucas.
Ok, it may still become very healthy and mature into a great franchise… they just need a real good story that brings back the glory of Predator and Alien.
I’m sure we’ll get more Predator and Alien movies, fighting each other and some where they just fight humans. It’s just the beginning… of the end…
It’s always a pleasure talking with ya 790.
I thank Vic for such a great community he’s hosting.
Thanks Vic!
Thanks Stephen, yeah I’ve allways like Lance Hendrickson. Remember that Terminator, ” I hate the weird ones” line? Haha
I remember a real wierd film that he was in with Eric Roberts (I forgot the title) he was a serial killer in that one. Had a real twist ending. Anyway…..
Yea I hear what your saying about the Wayland reference in Avp.
(I was able to read a couple of treatments written for Star Trek 11. One was real bad but the other one if done right would have been HUGE.
But it went into the Jones Warehouse of natural wonders.
Is tough when you’ve read a better version of a film that comes out and sucks.
Personally I would be really surprised if AvP 3 ever comes out.
Please check in often Stephen!
Allways good to talk to you.
Alien five would of been awesome and probably could of made millions. Who knows. There are so many abandoned scripts in hollywood the number would be stagering. Cameron and Scott could be astounded to the possibilty of how much money they could make with another alien movie. Think of this.
Sigourney and her team on their ship, engine malfuctions, blows and the whole ship takes a crash landing on a unknown planet. Not knowing the planet, they explore to find a way off of it. They struggle to find their way around. A few men disappear, they try and find them. When they think they are in a cave they meet the alien race.
Just a little something off the top of my head. I’m a writer so I think up crazy stuff.
Lauren,
I wrote a treatment for Alien 5 too… but before I actually got as far as handing it in with all the details from treatment notes, step outline etc. they were already oozing with ideas of the merger between Alien and Predator… I saw no reason to get my story reviewed when I knew what was going on behind closed doors.
I’ll take it out soon and do a re-write and see if it’s worth mentioning again.
I didn’t actually write it, that was just a idea. I get millions of ideas. I write so all kinds of the things come up.I am actually going to try my hands in sci-fi.
if they do a new movie they should make a new senario and stop mixing all the old movies in one.requiem its a copy from all the older movies i quit watch it coz it was nothing that i havent`t see already
i prefer to do a aliens movie remake than make another avp that is like watching all the movies in one.
Did u guys know I almost barfed when I saw the pred and the chick run off hand in hand in AvP1?
LOL I almost barfed too. Let’s just be thankful that their was no half pred and half human.
I do agree that the first avp was weak in action and gore. And the seconded one was really lacking actors and story ( but as fans do we really care about the freaking people in the middle of it all?) So why is is possible that in the third movie that take the first movie story and the the great action and gore the seconded one had.
I would like the director of 2007 The Mist to come on board the 3rd avp movie or hold the project.
y’know they will never make the movies like they used to.. so we should be happy with what we get: Nostalgia on screen.
Allthough it would be better if Fox Interactive would just make another AvP for the PC ^_^
if the director of myst takes part on this movie then for sure they will be more mpla mpla and chating than action and would be a talking movie.i prefer the director of rambo 4 to take avp3.
Its pretty freaky to think that any day now I could go on Screen Rant and see the headlines.
YEP, ITS THE END OF THE WORLD, THERE WILL BE A ALIENS VS PREDATOR 3.
Sheessh if I’m drivng my car, I might just plow past that wooden security barracade right into that nuclear power plant that I allways drive by in the morning.
Cause it will be the end of the world anywhay, WGaS?
If they shoot this on a spaceship I hope they get thrown into the Delta Quadrant with the film crew still on board… Borg Fodder. ¤-|
It might be interesting if Stallone and M. Night Shamalayn became part of the avp movies. With Shamalayn their would be all kinds of twist.
Lauren Ashley, I would get the dvd just to see the behind the scenes footage of there magic collaberation….
Who knows Stallone and Shamalayn could be the next Speilberg/Lucas…..
If you could see my face right now it would look like. «:-O
That would be interesting 790. What a strange mix, Stallone and Shamalayn. Might never know. My face might look the same.
Neh, Stallone’s abs will make me barf 2..
they might even make the Aliens barf.
avp 2 its already a barf i still prefer stalone than the unexpirience director of avp 1,2
I shouldn’t even be here, but a guy needs a rest from time to time…
I’m in a meeting and I can’t resist.
Stallone and Shamalayn!?!?!?!!!???!?!!?/
Sooooo sad…
Though it would be like this : Stallone, Ripley’s great, great grandfather, battles the first on site Predators. While battling for his life and his 4 man crew 3 of which naturally die (an Un-natural death), he escapes on a pre-programmed vessel built by the Predators to send warriors to defeat a near by planet full of ALIENS. John Ripley (not very intelligent, didn’t know how to reprogram the vessel to head back to earth before it went to hyperspace) is en route to the neighboring planet Veszda (dorky name I know) with his crew who is hiding in the weapons room.
Clemens Dryer (nerdy dude), finds a way to send a signal to the colonial fleet before they go into hyperspace. The fleet recieves the signal sends every man, woman and child (ok not child) to rescue Ripley’s crew and wipe out the Predator Home world. (humans always have ONE big kick ass neutron-plasma-superduper-state of the art-nuclear bomb to send living thing to hell). Ripley and crew arrive to an ALIEN infested world which used to be a neighboring plant for Predators.
All hell breaks loose and only Ripley remains, fighting his way off of this planet as he receives signal from the fleet that they’re there to pick his sorry ass up so they can destroy that planet too.
Barely escaping, Ripley is finally taken onboard one of the fleets vessels. On his way to sick bay he catches a gimps of a facility which has humans in green liquid filled tans. As they are treating his wounds he passes out. When he recovers he stumbles back to where he saw that lab, enters, looks around and sees all the humans look JUST LIKE HIM.
He’s a copy of a dozen others… with a shock on his face, he walks backwards till he walks into a scientist who stands behind him and says :
Scientist
You’re not the first we made, but you’re the most successful. You see John, you’ve been dead for 8 years now. Died on our first attempt to recover Alien technology. Sadly it seems however you’re too expensive for the company, so we’re ending the program and replacing you with the new Hyperdine models.
John Ripley
This is bullshit!!
Scientist
This, John is your replacement, cheap and efficient.
A familiar face emerges (Bishop).
Scientist
I think we’ve gotten everything we need out of you John. Time to rest.
Looks at the person who stands next to him.
Allen, (Bishop lookalike) take care of him.
Allen
With pleasure Sir.
THEEEEEEEEEEEEEE END!!!
As lame as this story is, is probably how lame it would be to see M. Night and Stallone work on this project.
Ok I gotta go back to my meeting… which sadly isn’t as exciting as a Sci Fi story meeting…
Yeah Stephen, I think the Stallone/Shamalyan idea began is a joke on this thread.
Stallone’s working on Rambo (whatever) and Shamalyan, (who cares). Both of them I’m sure would have NO INTEREST in working on this “franchise”.
I like your synopsis, but anything would be an improvement over mindless Alien reproduction and Predator’s acting like lobotimized Klingons on Safari.
“Predator’s acting like lobotimized Klingons on Safari.”
Dude that’s the best I’ve heard today!
I know it was just a joke, but I’m bored and this meeting is taking forever. Sometimes I swear, certain directors just LIKE to have meetings doing absolutely nothing.
But yes, Rambo V seems to be more or less a serious discussion now and well… I hate to say this but… Alien Vs. Predator 3 is also very likely…
And here’s the real kicker… the main reason why they are pushing for a 3rd film is because, while it may not break box office numbers, it DOES quite well on DVD and get ready… does VERY well in the gamin industry. So if they make a 3rd installment of AvP, it’s because they can make a bundle off of merchandise and games.
So… how likely is this? Very… last time I was at 20th century fox, those I talked to were seriously pulling hairs out of their sculls as they told me the company was serious about a 3rd one.
So serious that they were asking to set it up asap even before they had a script for the 3rd episode. That says a lot on how they handle these movies.
I mean come on… part 2 was called Colorado Nights (which was a fake working title but I’m sure if it was a real film it would have been better than AvP2.)
Just for kicks I’ve penned out a Predator 3 story a while ago… We should all join forces and make the best damn Predator 3 story ever! New, exciting, back to the roots… and trying to separate AVPs with the Predator movies.
Man I feel like watching part 2 now. Miss that big bastard and his clicking sounds… k k k k k k k k k k k (D D D D Danny Boy…) k k k k k k k…. (Sh SH sh IT aappennnnssss) k k k k k k k k k
(insert whip sound, duh dung duh dung duh dung) k k k k k k k
:/
Wow you must have been really bored in your meeting Stephen. Very creative I must say. You have writer potential. I can’t wait to see what you type next. Yes it would be sad if we had Stallone and Shamalayn. I would of never thought of having a parent character of ripley be on the movie. Shows what little I can come up with.
LaurenAshley, Stephen IS a script writer!!!
That’s all I can tell ya!
And also I say this, they can pass another AvP out of there creative ars but I for one will not pay to see it.
(Big band music playing).
LaurenAshley,
Let me tell ya, the hardest thing about writing that silly synopsis was typing on an iPod Touch! Yeah I typed it all on my iPod Touch and I’m sure there are a million spelling errors… But when there is a free WiFi nearby and I can go online during a meeting, it does check for mails. When I’m in a meeting, I then check the usual places and Screenrant is one of them.
Thanks for the compliment though
Trust me if I had to write a serious story for an Alien or Predator movie it would be a lot grander and more complex.
I’m now writing the massive To Do List. All the things we’ve discussed at the meeting. And while I’m doing that… I’m listening to Indiana Jones And The Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull. The score is good… but I can still feel quite a few places where Mr. Williams has actually borrowed from his previous stuff which is pretty strange. There are moment on the CD where you hear elements from War of The Worlds. I hate to say it but, his scores haven’t quite been what they used to be.
But I love his work all the same.
I heard something about him composing Bryan Singers Superman II. I’m excited of course… but… then it would have been cooler if he’d done the first Bryan Singer Superman.
Aaanyway… I really WAS bored at the meeting… I just couldn’t show it… I had to nod at the right time, smile and laugh and occasionally say “Noohhh really? Awesome or that’s far out!”….
Nah it’s all good… they’re my friends, but today they were not really taking work too seriously and eating and drinking a tad too much. So the meeting took way too long and we’re probably going to have to resume this on Friday.
790,
This is what I once overheard at “XXX” (no it’s not a porn company) offices. Well more or less, my brain has embellished quite a bit..
Mr. John Doe
I really don’t give a rats ass…
Mr. Icare Aboutfans
But we’re making them worse, it’s horrible compared to the originals
Mr. John Doe
You see, for every fan who loved the original ALIEN movies and chooses to ignore our new more “action packed made for the next generation” Alien movies, another fool is introduced to our concept and will LOVE it!
THE SENIOR EXECUTIVE SITS DOWN THE YOUNG APPRENTICE AND CONTINUES
These kids today don’t usually watch OLD movies and for them we have OUR NEW and IMPROVED ALIEN movies. The back catalogue will serve well for DVD sales and point of reference.
Mr. Icare Aboutfans
So we’re disrespecting the original stories and creators?
Mr. John Doe
No. No. No… Not at all, it’s such a negative word… We’re REINVENTING the franchise or stories to be more suitable for the younger generation. We Reboot failed concepts, because these kids can’t remember if we’ve failed or not. As long as we market it as if it’s the first time this has EVER been done, they’ll eat it RAW!! Get the point?
Mr. Icare Aboutfans
I think I do… So how about a remake of Back To the Future trilogy, with a girl instead of a boy and a time traveling Dog?
Mr. John Doe
Son, you’re gonna get far in this business… Keep them golden nuggets comin’!! You got the stuff! THE RIGHT STUFF!! Yeehaaww!!!
ACROSS THE STREET AN ANGRY FAN IS POINTING HIS SNIPERSCOPE AT THEM… WEARING ‘SPOCK IS MY HOMEBOY’ T-SHIRT… AIMS AND FIRES!!
THE BULLET RICOCHETS OFF OF THE EXECUTIVE’S THICK SCULL AND HITS HIS STUFFED PET BEAVER IN THE NUTS!
I think I’m still bored… :[
Hey Stephen, its funny you took that angle, I was thinking the exact same thing.
Your post reminds me of a meeting at OCP, (robocop).
The old man is totally out of touch as the young execs are just looking at the bottom line.
Clearly nobody cares about a good script when it comes to the AvP franchise. I think a good script would go against their market research.
JB, I have a great script for the new AvP film. “What a good script, haha. It dosnt matter its AvP,” ….
How did this happen?
You had to mention Robocop…
See that’s in line for a remake…
Sad but true…
Stephen,
Wow I didn’t know you were actually a screenwriter. That’s freakin sweet. I am a avid writer myself. That fact that you did it all on your ipod touch, wow. I dont think I could do that. The sniper shooting the stuffed animal in the nuts was prure genius. Doing that and sitting at the meeting takes quit the multi tasking skills. I am impressed. I wish I could do all that at the same time.
This could be bad for OCP…
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Here’s my pitch.
The new ALIEN VS PREDATOR 3
and its NOT called Aliens Vs Predator 3. Gheesh
Call it
“Predator, The Xenomorph War”
Takes place completely from the Predator point of view.
There are NO humans in the film..no Biship no Riply !
There’s is a laungage we hear but its in (predator speak). Kinda like what we’ve seen in the first 3 Predator films.
(Totally alien). And original!
It starts out on a Predator outer world colony where we see the Predator species has a structure and intellidgence of their own.
Out of nowhere come these pod type craft that contain the alien creatures.
The aliens are also an intellegent speices and you can tell without knowing what there saying by just watching there interaction.
The Aliens decimate the colony and leave for the Predator homeworld with our 5 hero Predators in pursuit!
You write the rest……
Worstcase the lame test audience dosnt get it you could have a backup subtitle cut.
What do you think???
I wouldnt know where to begin to write. I usually write mystery and suspense. I kinda have a hard time writing science fiction. I will see what I can come up with.
My advice LaurenAshley, write somthing you would like to see. Write what excites you, don’t write for the masses unless your under contract….
LaurenAshley,
My mind is tooooo creative for my own good sometimes…
I waste my time imagining alternative endings, come up with new stories and figure out what to do as my next project all in the span of maybe 10min. My mind races out there with ideas and I have to run after them sometimes. But some do get away, I have to be honest.
But seriously though, writing a silly story like I just farted out, basically is a moment to moment kind of a thing. If you feel inspired to write something silly you do that. You can’t always plan for it, because most of the time, best ideas happen when you least expected them. Then all you do is grab whatever you have near you and start penning out the rough draft. Then you do rewrites till it may even end up being something completely different but that’s ok, cause you’ve grown with the story. And the story grew with you. So it’s all about letting go of whatever silly thought you have right then and there… Once you’ve done that you can start spending time thinking about the details.
And yes, the iPod Touch does well in writing, but sometimes it’s a pain when you move a bit and it rotates the entire layout cause it thought you were taking a dive…
Now my good friend 790.
To your story idea : There are two ways you could do this.
One would be almost like doing a documentary kind of movie (imagine a video picked up by Humans from another world with what they’ve filmed). Almost like a Blair Witch kind of a perspective or Cloverfield only no one really talks into the camera except when the Predators talk with each other. What we’d see is basically them meeting the ALIENs for the first time and how they battle against them. (Sadly I think we’d need subtitles as most people CAN’T watch a movie with a foreign language let alone one that’s made up, no matter how cool it actually could be). And then even subtitles cause massive amount of allergic reaction on most people. So the way to get around this is simple… Use as little dialogue as possible. Make events tell the story and occasionally an X-file style informational text appears, indicating that those who found the video (us humans) have deciphered where they might be and what they might be doing. This would help aid the viewers on the journey.
Second, while I totally see your point of view and I’d watch it because it could easily be something like Apocalypto where they speak a language no one knows and even in the first test screening they didn’t have any subtitles. But then people freaked and needed them so they put it in there.
The second thing you could do is pen out the story in a way, that would give the Predators much more character and communication between each other. The basic issue would be that the audience needs to identify with what they see on the screen. I know it sounds a bit strange but if they can’t identify with what they see they won’t accept any of the characters at all. So this means you’ll have to make one of the Predators bare human traits and right there is the problem. If these Aliens (predators) come from a different world, how can you make them likable or even identifiable? The way they usually do this is having a human character be the bridge between them.
One way you could solve this and go on a compromise is by having a human character with an overwhelming value be the driving force of the movie. ONE human character which is put in a position where the Predators have to move him or her from one place to another because this person is impregnated with The Queen Alien.
This will allow the audience to feel sympathy towards this character as she or he didn’t ask to become a host. But via her we meet a sympathetic Predator who will protect her when they encounter a serious problem with the ALIENS en route to their facilities. This Predator could maybe learn to communicate with her and between these two we’d learn a lot more from the both of them.
The 5 Predator team could them be put in serious jeopardy as their leader dies and some are against saving this human. Inner conflict breaks out showing even more sides to this Predator.
Sorry to make it into a Human story, but unless the viewers are connected somehow, they can’t sit still… it’s a strange thing people do.
You can still have 80% ALIEN/PREDATOR war, but the 20% has to remain human to feed the audience.
Sorry it’s soon 5am here so my brain isn’t quite working anymore… Hope you get what I mean… BUT, I like the idea…
There IS one medium that could actually get away with your idea with no humans at all… An illustrated comic book could do this, because their readers aren’t as judgmental when it comes to new ideas as TV and Movie audiences. If Alex Ross did the art work, with some awesome scenes, you’d get it done in style.
I love that documentary idea!
I love it!
I hear what you mean (Apocalypto) totally, but I think you could give the Predators human characteristics by just showing them act like us. They eat, sleep do there jobs.
They could have been a semi-warlike race that was pushed to the brink where they had to become Predators to regain there status in the galaxy.
That would explain there hatred for the alien species that we’ve seen in the first films.
Thanks for taking the time to comment on that. Awesome!
My pleasure 790,
but now I’m going to bed, cause I have a meeting at 10 and I have to get up at 8. It’s almost 5am here so I won’t get much sleep… again..
I see Mr. Sandman has left his pixy dust bag next to my bed. He doesn’t even bother to try and make me fall asleep. He left me his sack and a baseball bat (last resort naturally)
Hmm, he left angrily… I’m sure if he could bust the door on his way out he would.. but he just levitated through the wall, giving me the evil eye…
Ok fellas, I’m out…
G’night you awesome people!
Why don’t u ppl just exchange phonenumbers
Leave your phone number Kwanto.
I think the problem with giving Predators human traits, is the fact that we can’t possibly understand. Honestly I don’t think the Predators feel anger for a species so far below their contempt. Do they even have a language? I think the original idea was to create an unstoppable creature that’s hellbent on hunting to the death, for pride and honour. Anything short of that would almost be a disgrace to the original idea and would have hardcore Predator fans turned off of the movie.
It would almost be like giving Alien human traits. Just because Predators walk on two feet and are humanoid in appearance does not make them anything like us. I dunno…
I think it’s gonna be very hard for Alien or Predator OR AVP to ever come back from this damage they’ve created :’(
Alan,
I know what you mean, that’s why it always HAS to have a human in the film in order to be the catalyst for having the audience interested and attached.
One thing I personally didn’t like was the ‘relationship’ between the female and the Predator in AVP. It was too much. Predator 2, on the other hand worked well because they showed respect for the OTHER hunter and that’s about it. But they were still menacing and the audience were still freaked about all those Predators on that ship as Danny had to flee before they flew off.
There’s ALWAYS a way to resurrect a fallen story… you just need the rights story, the right script writer and perfect timing. Then it’s back on track. It’s not that hard really… what’s hard is getting past the suits with an intact story, not one with a massive set of alterations ranging from changing the male to a woman, the dog to a talking seal, the father a mythological sea urchin and super human powers for the lead character. Sometimes you’d pass out laughing so much, if you knew just how retarded these suits can be. They just WANT to be apart of it and because they CAN, they often are a BIG reason why films don’t turn out good when you know it could have been a wonderful film.
But then that’s Hollywood for ya…
(Alan, maybe we should exchange phone numbers?). Lol.
^
Well Predators certainly have a laungage. Remember the countdown symbols on there wrist gauntlet?
They hunt for sport, not to eat. That’s clearly a human trait??? They don’t kill anyone that’s not armed. They don’t kill Pregnant women.
And when cornered they take their own life.
Sounds more human than Alien.
Since they call these stupid films Aliens vs Predator, I would expect an origin film that explains why there at war. That’s all!
(Just a side note of trivia, Stan Winston created the look of the Predator in one week).
Oh I loved the way the female and the predator teamed up in Avp. (That made the film for me).
I think the Predators come from a Matriarcal society,(Females rule their world).
They show respect for all female species (check all the films). “want some candy”
Speaking of suits ruining the movies. Remember that horrible remake “Wild Wild West” well it was a suit that said folks won’t mind if James West is played by Will Smith, because Will was on fire back then (until WWW came out). And also I’ve heard from more than one source that one of the studio heads son loved spiders, so this suit guy comes into the meeting and practically forced them to use the gigantic spider tank that’s in that film.
Halarious…………….>
I have to draw your attention to the first Predator Film, where Arny and Predator fought to the death, both unarmed. Also, Bishop was pretty much unarmed in AVP when the Predator killed him. I also believe Aliens do not possess any weapons, yet they are preferred sport for the predator.
If you really want to nitpick like that, I suppose you could say that Aliens possess human traits, as they tend to live in packs, expand at an alarming rate, and consume all resources in the area.
Yes, humans hunt for sport, but that’s not our only driving force. And we tend to only hunt when we think we can win. It can be an honour thing, but is not usually veiwed in society as honourable to kill for sport.
Humans, when cornered, don’t normally take their own life, and certainly don’t make an attempt to take out a mile radius. And the reason they take their own life is to prevent their technology from ending up in the hands of their prey, and to ultimately win the battle, and any cost. It’s almost an honour thing for them. I don’t recall anything like that in our society.
They don’t kill pregnant women, that is true. Is it because they want more prey for the future? Is it pity? Is it simply considered dishonourable? We don’t know. But I can tell you humans have killed pregnant women.
If you would like to know why Predators hunt Aliens, pay closer attention to the Predators’ driving force. They like to hunt, and they like to hunt prey that’s deadly. Aliens are the ultimate prey, as they multiply fast, have sharp claws and some weird second mouth thing that can penetrate Predator armour, and a long spikey tail. They hunt in swarms, and live in packs, and all they do is kill. So that sounds to me like a pretty honourable catch. The two species are not at war. One is having fun, the other is trying to survive
That “Want some candy” was a child being quoted. I’m pretty sure the Predator used that quote to taunt Danny Glover. I’m not too sure what you meant by offering that as proof of a matriarchal society. But there is really no proof that the species even HAS sexes, or sexes as we know. And the only reason the Predator accepted the human in AVP is because she killed an Alien, and Aliens are considered good sport. I personally liked the outtake when they’re taking the Alien carcass apart and the Predator makes the mouth shoot out and it scares the woman.
As for that “Do they even have a language” comment, that was kind of rhetorical. Yes, the markings on their arm units, or the tribal mark they put in their helmets in AVP, etc etc. It’s just not recognizable as a language to humans, as they tend to make odd sounds from their hunting purring noise, to their loud roars. There was actually a language developed for the Predators in the novel series apperently. I haven’t read anything of it yet, but that’s kind of interesting…
One thing I did like about AVPR is the fact that they went back to the old elephant-like Alien sounds, and the unfriendlier look of the Predator. I thought those were nice touches
Ok I’m going to use this symbol from now on when I’m being sarcastic. (S).
(Example)
“Do you want some candy” (S).
What I meant about the Predators not killing anyone unarmed, that means on first contact. Arnold was shooting at the pred all day long and Bishop, (Mr Wayland) had lung cancer and the Pred let him go, then the bastard takes a shot at him from behind.
Wtf!!!!!! (S).
790,
You just want to BE a Predator!!! ;p (me too, only when I go grocery shopping though)
“Want some Candy”… such a classic…
No, no, Predators are highly advanced beings who a passion for hunting and war. I love the Predator concept to bits.
I think it’s difficult to categorize human traits in Aliens as most of the time, we register behavior that is in actual fact just an intelligent act. But sure, they can have compassion etc. But what made Predator different is that we just didn’t quite know what he would do. What to expect. Their behavior must always fall a but off the registry of what humans expect humans to do. That’s what makes them aliens. So, they did that well. You know a really bad move would be if they had a predator yank out a picture of his wife and two baby Predators just as he dies and puts it where his hearts are. THAT would be over doing it and I’m sure certain people would have an uncontrollable urge to vomit (me included) if that was ever filmed.
Anyone remember that freak ALIEN in Alien 4 that was a pile of lard, that got sucked out into space??? At one point I swear it almost said MOOOMMMMAAAA… but I’m probably thinking about one of the worst ending in the history of endings in a Sci Fi movie. Which movie was that? Ummm One of the Planet of the Apes movie where the end scene is a monkey in a cage saying Moma, Moma, moma (but the way they shot it was so cheesy!!) They rewind the clip over and over to match the monkey’s lips moving. Hoooorible!
Anyway, Predators must be kept as an adrenaline pumping machine in the movie and ALIENs the horrific nightmare haunting people, randomly. That works best in a movie. The audience needs to be taken on an adventure and an exciting ride.
Though I have to be honest, having Lion sounds for ALIENS never worked for me… it was too silly… the hissing sounds and screeching sounds were a hell of a lot more terrifying. ALIEN one and two and I think three had them.
Alan. You typed…
Humans, when cornered, don’t normally take their own life, and certainly don’t make an attempt to take out a mile radius. And the reason they take their own life is to prevent their technology from ending up in the hands of their prey, and to ultimately win the battle, and any cost. It’s almost an honour thing for them. I don’t recall anything like that in our society.
Yeah true, except for Starfleet Captains. (S)
“Computer activate self destruct program authorization Kirk, 0010-00 omega”.
I’m pretty sure they got that from Star Trek…..
And you said it yourself that they have a language in the novels. I would think that just because the symbols don’t look like the ABC’s that its still a language. ???
I really want to be a T-1000, haha.
Yeah well I’m not saying the predators should whip out family pictures (lMAO) I’m just saying they could write a script with their POV.
Also
Alien 4, yes had a crap ending. BUT have you seen the extended cut ending.
(Wow).
Remember Riply and Wynnona are about to land on earth. Well in the extended cut they do and its wasted. (Check it)
“Riplys last line is “Earth yeah it aint what it used to be”. Or something close to that. I loved it they showed a wasted looking Paris. It was great!!!!
You need to read the entire post before you reply 790. That’s why I said it was a rhetorical question. The thought that a species could develop to the technological state that the predators have without a language is ridiculous to say the least.
Stephen, the thought of a predator pulling out a picture of his wife and kid made me burst out laughing so hard. I immediately thought of a nice little picture frame of his wife and kids on the wall where he keeps his hunting skulls.
Oh sorry. I do that sometimes.
Alan,
Don’t forget to imagine the baby Predator having a huge diaper and the wife has a blond wig cause the females ONLY differ in that they have a fascination with blond human curly hair. ;p
It would be ALMOST as bad as reliving Chewbacca’s retarded family in the Star Wars Christmas special!!!
I just watched it with the Rifftrax and it was funny but even THEY had a hard time saving it…
http://www.rifftrax.com/
I have sent this idea to John Davis, but it will probably get thrown out. You can’t have an AVP movie without humans who’s going to watch basically a slient film with no dialouge.
First off they should get Adam Baldwin back to reprise his role of Garber and he could be with the now weyland yutani corp. Maybe bring in Jake Busey to play peter keys son? still have it on earth but on a remote tropical island where they have the preds pod from AVP-R and the frozen but now thawed alien queen from AVP. with her now producing eggs. there is the usual catasrophy to allow the aliens to run a muck and a predator ship that looks like the derilic craft in alien and aliens with a spacejockey on board are transporting eggs to other hunting grounds, they scan earth for the heat and conflict they crave and see the aliens are running a muck on the island they cloak and land but the scientist notice the atmospheric disterbance and go to the ship and play a homing device on it. in the end the ship crashes on LV-426 and the last thing you see is the alien queen moving to the back of the ship and the camera pans back to reveil all the eggs and since there is a homing device on it this is how weyland yutani knows where the ship is and to bring back the life form
Hey Craig, please have John Davis read ALL these fine comments. It would be a great thing if he did…
John Davis is really into Sims The Movie so….
did you send it to his office or his agent? Or privately?
Craig I like your prequel idea but its kinda predictable and boring. (I swear if I live thru another scene where an Alien breaks out of a lab I’m gonna puke).
I would much rather see a true Aliens vs Predator orgin on what started their conflict. I don’t buy that aliens are just big game.
And I kinda know J Davis and nothing we say here will make any difference to the guy.
(His office is in SM/Cal…
Stephen did you say Davis was into the Sims PC game? Gheesh what a power freak.
790,
No I’m just saying since he’s really making Sims The movie, I suppose he’s either doing it for the money or he really does have a thing for it. :[
I kind of find it funny that when I talked to Bryan, he said it was a drama? How the heck is The Sims a Drama?
Synopsis :
Pleasantview is one of the most delightful neighbourhoods to live in, everybody is happy, the grass is always green, children are always well-mannered. But newcomer Andie starts to uncover the ‘real’ pleasantview, for not only are Pleasantville full of cheating, lying, decieving, secret-ridden people like the Goths, Don Lothario and the struggling Newbies, but they are being ruled by a greater power. Andie is terrified to discover they are stuck in a video game being played by millions universally.
Sorry but that’s kind of Twilight Zone, Outer Limits kind of thing but not very funny.
A SIM’s movie.
You have gotta be kidding me.
If Hollywoods making that, I want another Cronicles of Riddick! Seriously…..
Whens the Lego Star Wars film due out? Gheessh.
Sounds like another quality Davis Production. Lol.
Nobodys going to see a SIMs movie? Nobody!!!
Trust me 790,
A certain group of people called IDIOTS, walking past us every day, taking care of day to day operations in highly intensive areas of this world WILL, go and watch it… maybe even more than once.
You know its funny you mentioned Riddick. I almost got to write a script for it. But I don’t know what the hell happened. My story was sat before episode 1 and one AFTER episode 1.
It was an origin film and then the resolution. It was supposed to be a trilogy but then I have no clue to this very day what happened…
Sucks because it seems the IDIOTS outnumber us like 10 to 1.
I “used” to know a guy that was into the SIM game, he would show me how his virtual SIM family was building there communtiy. It reminded me of the Sea Monkey game we used to play with. Certain people sure want to micro manage other people. Its sick.
Half the readers here will laugh I’m sure, but I thought the Cronicles Of Riddick was one of the most original sci-fi films in years….
Vin never looked so bad ass !
Yeah we are DOOOOOOOOMED!
I ain’t laughing…
Pitch Black was one of my favorite modern sci fi movies. Personally because Claudia Black is in it and Vin was such a bad ass!!! Those aliens were awesome and the feel not to mention the score was perfect!
Loved it. Still do. The second part wasn’t bad, just not in tune with the first one. I was so happy when I first heard they were making a trilogy, so I penned out a treatment but then suddenly it turned into a cartoon and just one movie.
Haha. Your Farscape side is showing. Yeah I felt both fims were unique. Cronicles had top-notch cinematography.
And that animated cartoon (Dark Fury) I think happened because Cronicles kinda bombed.
I’m sure Vin Diesel will bring that franchise back someday.
Hopefully before were all implanted.
Frell, it does show… hmm what the yotz can I do about this dren? I mean I miss Farscape so much! I get my ticks and I need my fix… Farscape was the DREN!!!
Good News, I’ve read that Rocky S’Obannon (spell check) is writing a Farscape movie.
Henson Studios will hopfully produce in a few years a Farscape feature film.
Ben Browder and Claudia have all expressed interest.
Too bad about Dargo, but we have his son. Hope they do it and I hope Wormhole weapons are back! And of course Scorpius. !!
Rockne is writing a movie? He’s working on Warehouse 13 at the moment.
To be honest I’ve been meaning to get in touch with him cause I have an idea I’m sure he would be interested in doing. I just need to write the bible for it first.
I know Ben and Claud are both very much interested in going back to the roots of Farscape and doing another run. I welcome it.
But, a film? Hmm I haven’t heard anything about that. I know the minisodes are coming but that’s about it. I hope it won’t be Jim Henson company doing Farscape cause then Disney has something to say and I’d rather they keep quiet when it concerns Farscape.
Let 20th C. Fox do it. Or Universal. After all they did ok with Serenity when they made a movie out of it.
Scorpius HAS to come back. Dargo? Hmm probably not. I’m sure Rockne has a bright idea how to bring it back or onto the big screen. I trust him completely.
I forgot where I read that but I’m fairly sure he was trying to come up with a treatment for a film, not the webisodes.
I hope you get ahold of him!
Be cool to see a conflict between the time-aliens and the Scarrens, with Chricton and family in the balance.
Have to say I hate SG Atalantis for not only contributing to Farscapes demise but then having the balls to steal the two main characters. Hate that show!
790, I hate SG Atlantis too!!!! But to be honest it was SG-1 which first stole Ben and then made a frelled up episode where they mocked Farscape!!! DAMN THEM!
I talked to Ben a while ago and I don’t know if you know this, but Ben was offered the role of Apollo on BSG. Yep, he naturally went where there was more money. But then if Ben had taken the role I am sure BSG would have been a bit different, more dramatic with Apollo. Ben is a fantastic actor and one of the coolest people out there.
By the way Sorry Vic for contaminating your Predator thread… we’ll keep it on topic from now on, we promise.
Yeah your right it was Stargate starring McGuber.
(Sorry Vic).
Wow, I have to say I would have rather seen him in BSG.
Next time you see him tell him 790’s a big fan! And to do a Farscape film!!!! Thanks.
I never really got into farscape and stargate. But they are good shows. I usually just watch sci-fi movies. Movies keep my attention.
If you get a chance check out Farscape, the Peacekeeper wars. Its a 3 hour Farscape movie.
I think you’ll like it Lauren.
I sent it to his office attention John Davis.
I know it may seem predictable but, in my opinion this is what they would have to do to merge the series’s and after that they would be free to go to any planet in any time.
If you think about it, it is the only logical way that the company knows about the alien and where it is in the first alien movie.
In Predator, I think the whole “fighting without weapons or armor” is more about honor. The Predator has Arnold outmatched by a mile with weapons, so hand-to-hand makes it fair (sorta). And I’ve always wondered how a Predator reproduces. Are they asexual? All female? Male/female? Do they lay eggs or something like that? Do they “grow” them in a lab somewhere? I’ve always wondered that. And I might be crazy, but one of the aliens has the same cloaking ability as Predator in AVP. Is it like that in ANY of the other Alien movies?
Yeah man i liked avp one and two,but they sould live it alone for a while and work on another alien or predator movie.
How do predators reproduce? Thats a good one and thats the question. Lets hope they will make a new predator movie and we will find out.
Ty,
I doubt it’s a major issue that needs to be addressed when it comes to sexes and reproductions with the Predator Aliens. Unless we go with the Documentary Style Story by 790, I think it’s best left untold. Certain mysteries needs to be kept just that… a mystery.
But if it was a crucial point to the story, it could be mentioned in 790s take on a new Predator movie. You know the documentary, home video style Predator movie. Imagine that… just for kicks, someone with enough budget like the BATMAN Vs. Predator fan film, someone would actually make a Discovery Channel/National Geographic documentary about the Predator Species.
Title : Legendary Predators (Sunday on NGC at 9PM EST)
(Hosted by James Earl Jones)
Shot entirely on location, we see the ritualistic coming of age to become one of the worlds most feared Predators. Following a group of Predators as they fight against incredible odds, we see the young males taken to the next step in becoming the Ultimate Warrior. Surviving in hostile territories, which of these warriors will become the ultimate Predator?
Duration 52min
You know just for fun… why the heck not? I’d rather see that then some pointless Wannabe Spielbergian or Lynchian short by some mainstream amateur filmmaker.
Let’s do something for fun for once.
Well Stephen, remember you actually came up with that concept.
I had the desire to see the origins of the war that started the conflict between the Aliens and the Predators.
You said that it would be interesting to have a human search party find a lost tape or data storage device that could be played back as a documentary type film.
I can’t take cred for that cool concept. ;-).
Personally I imagine the Predator society is somewhat like our own. Were only seeing the Predators out on recon or on the frontlines of a possible war. (I’m not buying the demi-god concept in AvP).
I really have no desire to see how they procreate…. Just the thought of them kissing could be very disgusting.
Iiiiiiii’m Retarded…
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I remember now… I think I just threw the idea out so far I forgot I was the one throwing it.
Ummm, yeah Predators kissing is not my kinda flick… Alien Porn.. hmmm. Well I guess some people probably would see it.. maybe 4 or 5 out of 6 Billion.
I’ve always seen Predators as a race that’s very war like. They dominate and take pride in their hunts etc. They are a war like society, that still seeks out to battle other alien spices in order to show their dominance.
This is how I see them, like the ancient Mayan warriors, only with highly advanced technology. They are a proud race and have evolved into a superior race of hunters.
Because of their design I imagine them being like that. But like all societies and species, I’m sure they have a LESSER kind of Predator which isn’t strong and isn’t a hunter. I see them as the creators, the scientists and builders. They might be different looking, perhaps thinner, more elegant, even different look perhaps. Their women might still be tall and warrior like, but more elegant and in some ways feminine (think Borg Queen form First Contact here).
Better yet, they might have a slave race doing all their work, like building their weapons, ships etc. They could be slaves from another world or their own lesser kinds…
You can spin this ball which ever way you want to… but inherently it has to stay in the courtyard of the already established Predator mythos. If they are introduced as genetically superior super beings, some of the magic/mystery would be taken away (like Highlander 2 and Star Wars Episode 1).
Ultimately, you can only give so much information about their background before you are demystifying the entire spices and then loosing their value.
My radiator smells like an old rubber factory (never been there bit this is how I imagine it, I’m probably going to hallucinate soon.)
u r ALL SAD I THINK BOTH AVP MOVIES WERE TREMENDOUS ITS ALL LEADING UP TO THE ALIEN FILMS THERE IS A PLOT BEHIMD IT ALL
i did like the first AVP. i thought it was a good movie. i don’t know what all the big fuss was about when AVP came out.
Do it, and do it X-rated with some close ups of the Predators jabbing their wrist blades right in to the Xenomorph jaws. And, the Xenomorphs stabbing their cocci boned tails right through the Predator spines and hearts. This genera has so much depth that it almost pains me to see what limited vision has been applied to it so far. The past iconic Alien series and the Predator series must be used to consult for the screen plays to stay close to depicting the true nature of both villains. And, YES, take it in to space where the element of dark space matter, cosmic hush of any sound, and colorful gaseous blooms will only make those species at home. Full scale carnage, no holding back of any weaponry, and see the battle from the Predator’s eye, since he is the superior species and the dominant force to be reckon with.
And, another thing. Sci Fi is meant to be gruesome and unrealistic, we as the audience demand it. There is hardly any room for “logic” in Sci Fi. The only restriction is that any stupidities or oddities must be avoided. Ellen Ripley can be resurrected, the Xenomoph gestation could vary depending upon warm or cold conditions, Predators can be impregnated with the vile Xeno-embryos. But, what you can’t have is an out right defiance of technological expectations. Gadgetry must be refined, appealing, mind boggling. The situations must be imaginable and carry utmost ambiance of suspense [outside of Colorado]. Limited physical features must be exposed. No matter how astute one might be in morphology and anatomy, an Alien from outside of our realms can never be fully accepted in person, unless we have encountered it already.
A few suggestions: Take the fight to the Planet where prison colony was abandoned. The DarkHorse comic has an awesome comic published already where the Predators respond to an infestation of Xenomorphs in a human colony wiping them out mostly.
That’s the problem with the last 2 films Adam, they have just been 2 guys in costumes fighting like Godzilla and (controlled space creature).
Especally Avp-R the last 20 min.
We need some serious story here! Or I’m not interested anymore.
Show us the first conflict and give the Aliens more credit then just being bugs. I’m bored with this mindless conflict.
LMAO!! Oh… dude. I haven’t chimed in here for a while but your comment made me laugh out loud. If they were still around, repeat the above to Isaac Asimov or Arthur C. Clark or any of a half dozen other classic Sci Fi authors.
I would say if your argument is accurate for any genre, it would be FANTASY, where rules truly can be thrown out the window, NOT Sci Fi.
Vic
“LMAO!! Oh… dude. I haven’t chimed in here for a while but your comment made me laugh out loud. If they were still around, repeat the above to Isaac Asimov or Arthur C. Clark or any of a half dozen other classic Sci Fi authors.
I would say if your argument is accurate for any genre, it would be FANTASY, where rules truly can be thrown out the window, NOT Sci Fi.”
Big guy,
How about I start with Mike Richardson? The founder of DarkHorse who conceptualized both of the scifi genera in discussion here. Don’t tell me that you see Sci Fi for it’s “characters depth and inter-twined plot”, character persona undefinable like the love-story in AvP-Requiem’s Alien infested Colorado town. If you pick-up any of the DarkHorse comics in the 80s, which by the way was the discussion fuel for the SciFi cinema of Aliens and Predator; one thing you learn quickly is that SciFi is a purist genera strictly based upon “fantasy” as you called it, fed constantly by the miracles of science and gadgetry. Or else what story line could you possibly develop between Vampires-Slayers, Superhero Gordon-Moth man, Alien-Predator, Batman-Predator, Hammer man-Haunted man…etc. The reason Hellboy has been a respectfull blockbuster is because the movie as a comic rendition offers non-stop action [like it's comics], parallel to Sin city diaries of Frank Miller-same logic or unlogic, action but not too much logos.
Plus, if you ever re-watch Star Wars and Han Solo odyssey, Star Wars made it big not because of Princess L. but because it was a “fantasy” creation that didn’t cling on to logic. Or else, the “War of the Clones” could have gone first before Sith Vader?
Show us the first conflict and give the Aliens more credit then just being bugs. I’m bored with this mindless conflict.
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Right on! Nostromo and Ellen Ripley history to me can never be discarded as the earliest contact between humans and Aliens. In one DarkHorse comic, teh character of “Newt” was used as a fighting force. In others of Xenomorph and Aliens orginal comics, the character of Karen De La Cruix was doing the same job of fighting off the Aliens.
But, the most intense of them all was the “War of the Xenomorphs” where there was an inter-species warfare for dominance. You put all of those collages together, and we get at least 2.15 minutes of kick-ass cinema time.
Later.
As I said before
I have sent this idea to John Davis, but it will probably get thrown out. You can’t have an AVP movie without humans who’s going to watch basically a slient film with no dialouge.
First off they should get Adam Baldwin back to reprise his role of Garber and he could be with the now weyland yutani corp. Maybe bring in Jake Busey to play peter keys son? still have it on earth but on a remote tropical island where they have the preds pod from AVP-R and the frozen but now thawed alien queen from AVP. with her now producing eggs. there is the usual catasrophy to allow the aliens to run a muck and a predator ship that looks like the derilic craft in alien and aliens with a spacejockey on board are transporting eggs to other hunting grounds, they scan earth for the heat and conflict they crave and see the aliens are running a muck on the island they cloak and land but the scientist notice the atmospheric disterbance and go to the ship and play a homing device on it. in the end the ship crashes on LV-426 and the last thing you see is the alien queen moving to the back of the ship and the camera pans back to reveil all the eggs and since there is a homing device on it this is how weyland yutani knows where the ship is and to bring back the life form
They have to do something to merge the 2 series together and once they do this then they would be free to go to any planet any time.
Hey Craig,
Why not introduce a new character, the historical character of karen DeLa Cruoix from the DarkHorse comics. Let’s face it, Ripley is over-stretched, but you need an ass-kicking hot female who knows how to fight like a marine [per Comic concept]. I would however, stay-away or keep the eggs or the chest bursting episodes to very limited few scenes. We have been watching those scenes since the 80s.
I always thought, the idea of Sulaco ship crash landing on the prison colony planet “Fury 161″ was a hell of a montage. I thought director David Fincher did an exceptional job in depicting that remote “ass end of space” planet. Wayland-Yutani showed up in the end only hoping to cage the specimen. They can always have Fury 161 penal colony infested by Aliens, only to attract the Predator hoard for a quick recon mission. The Predators however, have to use their camouflage regularly which according to DarkHorse comics they do when faced with unknown situations. Whereas, in Requiem we see a Predator walking right into the tunnel to face the Aliens??? not very Predator-like, they are stalkers. And, if we must have a regular human story line intervention, then let the Predators hang and skin human cadavers; without hugging and all sentimental towards Sana Lathan, please.
But yes, I *do* look for good plots and character development even in sci fi movies. Otherwise who gives a damn about all the pretty special effects if the story sucks and characters are disposable (as in AVP-R)?
And I’m sorry, but I don’t put the founder of DarkHorse or their comics on the same level with iconic sci fi authors and their works.
Vic
Vic,
no arguments here and I respect your reservations about DarkHorse writers and publishers in general. So, suit yourself, but do keep an eye on “Hellboy” this summer, let’s see if it breaks all time records to include Terminator’s first week. May be then we can pick up this conversation..peace out.
Sci-fi is not based in reality, its Fantasy ? :-O
Adam, yeah I’ve read some of the Dark Horse stuff and its pretty good. If I recall DH was the group that started the Avp storyline to begin with.
Concerning some that think the Avp series should ty into the Alien film, I have a bad feeling that it will.
If you didn’t walk out of AvP-R in disgust, it was obvious that the Pred weapon is in the hands of some Black Ops group. I can easly see this all lead to a deep space plotline that in some way takes us to LV-426.
Do we really want to go, is the question?
right on! finally a brother who can appreciate the DarkHorse selections. And, I agree LV-426 has been mined to the deepest cores. Let’s explore a new planet. I would suggest building something out of the Predator home planet, we saw a 3-sec glimpse of it in AVP-2; but, fundamentally speaking the Aliens have no shot at that planet, they be lucky if they get their queen outta there with her tail intact..peace out.
At the end of AVP-R the pred weapon is in the hands of Ms. Yutani, which will obviously become part of weyland-yutani, the only part of my idea that is on LV-426 is about 2minutes at the end of the movie the rest is on earth. and once they do this then they would be free to branch off to new story lines, planets and times.
Just don’t let the strause brothers do it again, and make sure who ever does it uses a bit more light, I couldn’t even read the tombstone in the grave yard