I mean I can’t change your opinion so no use arguing. I have the outmost respect for stuntmen/women. It’s a thankless job that contributes a great deal to every movie/tv show/commercial/etc. Seeing David Belle and Cyril, stuntmen/fight choreographers themselves, in leading roles doing what they do best made me a fan.

Jackie Chan is definitely acrobatic, but much less than either David Belle/Cyril. Especially now, when he himself said his knees are just shot from doing all those crazy stunts in his youth.

Chan does put both of them to shame overall. His presence, his fighting, etc are second to none. But he is not a “traceur”.

Nice to see you’ve interviewed every American on this website and in america to produce that crap theory.

Mind was opened because I watched it, hoping for something cool and i all I got was rehashed chan stunts for the younger generation. They just did nothing for me regardless of wires and no stuntmen. I disagree on chan not being as acrobatic back in his younger days, and I really believe he would have put them to shame if he was the same age and conditioning as them.

Im not familiar with Ymakasi 1 and 2.

It does work for me. And I’m actually a HUGE Jackie Chan fan (before he came to hollywood). Apples and Oranges though. It’d be hard for Jackie Chan to pull off what David Belle/Cyril do (he’s not as acrobatic) and it’d be REALLY hard for Belle/Cyril to pull off what Jackie Chan does. I like both.

And if that’s all you saw in B13 action scenes, “jumping from roof to roof”, then you might have had a closed mind about it. No wires, no stunt doubles and jumps that are dangerous and sometimes deadly. How can that not keep you on the edge of your seat?

B13 was the best parkour film, which still didn’t do justice to the art itself. But I’d watch that anyday over the horrible mess that was Yamakasi 1 and 2

If that works for you then ok. But Im old school and IMHO Chan did better stuff back in the day (Police Sotry/Crime Story in particular). Maybe the sequel will be better, but I need more than jumping from roof top to roof top to have me on the edge of my seat or to make me care. As I said before it was mediocre and was basically as boring as The Great Challenge was.

No but seriously Longshanks, somebody mentioned “American History X” on the latest Hulk thread and then I saw it for $3.99 used,,, picked it up and watched it Friday,,,
Eddie Furlong what happened to that kid?, his performance was right up there,,,
Great film,,,

I guess better late than never,right?

Lately I’ve been watching a lot of stand up comedy on Dvd. I did watch “American History X” last night,,, never saw it before, it was amazing.

Yeah,it really is one of those movies that you have to be in the mood to watch.

Ultimatum isn’t very good unfortunately, the action scenes (hand-to-hand and parkour) are done well but as mentioned the direction is poor with cuts in the middle of what could’ve been great single-shot moments. The story is absurd and a little preachy at the end. The two main stars though are very good and it would be a pity if they didn’t get better work to exploit their talents.

Overall the film is worth watching as an action film if you like stunts and appreciate the skills required to pull these moves off. I wouldn’t want to pay full price to see it but at a disocunt… yeah, why not.

ogb
Belle would be perfect for PoP now. Gyllenhall or Belle, hmmm no contest for me I’m afraid

If the action/fighting/parkour scenes didn’t capture your attention, the I don’t know what to tell you.

They were original, innovative and held you on the edge of your seat. Well I guess my seat.

No stupid CGi, no Wire Fu. The fight therefore looked great.

Cryil and Belle are damn talented and made everything look smooth and realistic.

The fight at the end was a little anti-climactic but nonetheless, the action in the movie made me an instant fan.

The director of the sequel does not know how to capture action or Parkour. Too many fast cuts. Doesn’t make sense in the context of a Parkour action scene.

But ppl should still buy the DVD and make this movie famous because Cyril and David Belle are very underrated stuntmen and they need more work.

Btw, David Belle, with a little more acting, would’ve been perfect for Prince of Persia. He can do most of the stuff in the game without using wires/cgi.