First Look At J.J. Abrams’ New USS Enterprise
Nov 11, 2008 by Vic HoltremanLet’s hear it: Do you LOVE the new Enterprise from the new Star Trek movie or HATE it?
Thanks to Entertainment Weekly, you are looking at the first full image of the redesigned USS Enterprise from the new Star Trek movie (you can head over there for a larger version).
As a long time Star Trek fan, whose favorite series is the original, my from-the-gut reaction when I first came across this was:
That is one ugly ship.
Here is what J.J. Abrams had to say in regards to the new design vs the original:
“If you’re going to do Star Trek there are many things you cannot change. The Enterprise is a visual touchstone for so many people. So if you’re going to do the Enterprise, it better look like the Enterprise, because otherwise, what are you doing?”
I don’t know… maybe it’ll grow on me or it will look awesome while in flight on the big screen, but at the moment it’s not doing it for me. While he went pretty “classic” with the saucer section (that’s “primary hull” for the Star Trek fans out there) the connecting pylon and the secondary (lower) hull just look… incongruous.
If I had to pick one word that comes to mind when I look at that image, it would be:
Taffy.
You know, that stretchy carnival candy? You get it warmed up and then you can pull on it and it stretches and thins? That’s what the secondary hull and the nacelles look like to me. The lower hull looks like it was molded out of clay, rolled between two hands and rolled narrower at one end.
Almost exactly one year ago I wrote a speculative post asking “How radical is the USS Enterprise Redesign?”
Pretty damned radical, it seems.
Here are some comparative images from that post to help put things in perspective:
The Original USS Enterprise NCC-1701
JJ Abrams’ Redesigned USS Enterprise NCC-1701
The USS Enterprise NCC-1701-A
Tell me the new design doesn’t look like the movie Enterprise saucer section tacked onto some completely different alien ship.
In another post, I tried to guess how a redesign of the Enterprise might equate to the modern trend of doing design updates of classic cars. As it turns out, I think my 1960s to 21st century Camaro comparison turned out to be the closest in design ideology:
Classic Camaro
Modern Camaro
At the time I wrote:
“Let me say that I think the new Camaro is really, REALLY hot and from a design standpoint pays homage to the classic version, but that degree of change for the Enterprise would be completely unacceptable.”
Oh well.
Or… is it just me? Do I need to give it time to sink in and see it in action? I’d like to hear opinions from both Star Trek fans and non-fans.
[UPDATE: Thanks to "Spockboy" check out this minor change to the design via Photoshop that makes the new NCC-1701 look FAR better by adding some bulk to the lower part of the ship.]
Star Trek opens on May 8, 2009.
Source: EW.com via FirstShowing.net
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Sean,
Great post. I can say based on comments that I think many old school Trekkies ARE coming around on this.
Vic
If I were Capt. Kirk; I would set the warp engines to overload, effect emergency saucer separation, and send the aft section on a kamikaze run into Nero’s ship.
The resulting conflagration would please both the Newbies and the Die-Hards.
Not likely, I know, but a guy can dream.
I just read on some site that an insider from ILM was stating that the nacelles were designed in this way as the are multi directional they can pivot go up down so the ship can do a 360 degree turn on a dime so its much more maneuverable also flaps to stop the ship in an instant , I actually think that is cool i have always thought the ship having to do a wide turn to go in the other direction was ridiculous , this design would also prove to be better in a fire fight as the ship can skip hop and dodge incoming fire . as for the other guys on here wanting the original enterprise it would never ever hold up to the digital effects of 2009 back in 1966 that was fine and to be expected, and as for the internal design what the hell do you want to see cardboard walls with that ugly orange color damn u couldn’t have any drama with boring garbage sets, but as the producers and a few others on this site have said its not the ship sets ect…. its the story and the original concept of the characters that matter, which I could not argue at all, you nitpickers need to get a life instead of saving a pick of the ship opening it in some photo editing program and zoom it and say this is wrong thats wrong, who gives a crap the ship still has the same basic design saucer nacelles 2ndary hull the neck connecting saucer to 2ndary hull which i always found funny because the original was so narrow you prob couldn’t get the turbolift through it . anyway i am probably gonna get blasted for my opinions but who cares.
@Kelly
Here at Screen Rant we try to keep the conversation civil – so people may argue their point and disagree with someone else’s point of view, but we don’t tolerate people “blasting” each other.
I find it ironic that you prepare to be blasted, especially since you used the term “nitpickers get a life.” If you don’t want to get blasted, perhaps you shouldn’t throw out the first volley, hmm?
As to “garbage sets,” for the mid-late 60s those sets looked damned good. I realize you must be probably in your 20s, if that, so you have no perspective when it comes to having watched the show when it originally aired, when most people still had black & white TV sets.
And the neck on connecting the primary and secondary hull was indeed wide enough go get a turbo-elevator through it (speaking of nitpicking…).
Vic
Vic
I know and understand what all of you are saying, and in a way, you are all right; and at the same time, you are all wrong.
You are all missing the point: It ain’t about the actual, specific design of the Enterprise, NCC-1701; it is about the ‘re-imagining’ of the Franchise’s two main stars: The bad-boy Captain, James Tiberius Kirk, and the Lady herself, the Enterprise.
William Shatner was Kirk for forty years, and we knew no other, but he is just an actor; the character, James T Kirk, was a two-fisted, bar fight-startin’, womanizing bad boy headed for a penal colony before his 30th birthday if he didn’t find his destiny, his niche – in the Big Chair. By becoming Captain Kirk, he saved Earth, several times over, as well as many other alien worlds besides, more than making up for the loss of the red Corvette Stingray sailing to its destuction at the bottom of a quarry when he was twelve years old. Chris Pine captures that feel perfectly, the personality of a saved soul who found his true mission going where even angels fear to tread, where no man has gone before – plus, he bagged Uhura! Nuthin’ wrong with that! This is 100% in alignment with Roddenberry’s original concept for this character.
Similarly, the seat of his destiny, the Starship Enterprise, had to be reimagined, for the same reason that the STMP refit was necessary, to fit the big screen, draw in new fans, and keep the model makers happy for seven fat years (sad but true), and no, it won’t please everybody – let’s face it, it pleases almost nobody, including me – the saucer’s too big, there is no strengthening 360-degree ‘dimple’ underneath it, the dorsal pylon is upside down & too far aft on the strongback, the the new nacelles & pylons are beautiful, yes, but they’re too far back and not ballanced at their attachement points, and yes, the cove under the shuttlebay has been completely deleted, I could go on and on (a photon torpedo tube down below, when the originals were just underneath the bridge area? Please!) – but therein lies the genius of JJ Abrams, traditionally a non-fan: He understands, perhaps better than anybody, that the Trek Universe is dying, the fans are hide-bound over such silly details like ship hull designs, and the Great Masses still see us all as nerds, so he retooled the Big E to look, well, cool. That is the original story all over again, and just as Trek invented the cellphone (and no one appreciates that as they should, don’t bother to thank Gene), the Cat Scan, Pet Scan and MRI, a new generation (I know, unforgivable pun) has to be hooked, just like we all were.
Star Trek may even become cool, who knows? You’ve got some sexy leads, from Chis Pine to Karl Urban to Zoe Saldanna (God, I LOVE Uhura!), and people who had always dismissed Trek (and Trekkers) are going to be absolutely jazzed by what is coming in this movie!
Just think, we’ll all be able to say honestly “Hey, I was into Star Trek before it was COOL!”
I know, I drank the Federation Koolaid. I admit this. I even went back for seconds. I am not ashamed….
JOHN
The worse design of a starship ever. In fact everything about this movie seems air-headed, badly thought out, written and designed, the actors dont have any magnetism-charm… the enterprise was built in the wrong place and kirk is driving gasoline cars when in the TOS episodes he doesnt know how to drive. Even if the kids that dont know what Star Trek was all about, like this abomination, it will not withstand the test of time.
I would love a trekkie to throw a barilian gelatinous frozen birthday cake in JJ Abrams FACE! Who was the stupid guy who chose a non trekkie to direct this in the first place???
@ Tribbilations:
This is precisely why Trekkies never can get any dates…
Grow up, kid. In Shatner’s own words when he hosted SNL, have you ever kissed a girl? Move out of your parents’ basement and get a life!
JOHN
Actually i am 34 its just my belief those sets could never stand up to today’s standards of our digital age, Also I still cannot believe no one is taking into account as long as the characters and the original premise remain the same who cares what the sets look like and as stated the ship still has the same basic design it still looks like the big-e, I hope that insider at ILM is right that the nacelles are multi-vectoral, I guess being in space the ship should be able to do any maneuver especially in a fire fight it can evade a lot of direct fire. as opposed to next generation were the ship had to do a 360 degree full around instead of say spinning around and get the hell out of werever they were in a hurry
P.S here’s the website regarding the I.L.M insider report
http://flare.solareclipse.net/cgi2/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=001972;p=0
@Tribbilations:
For the record (and for your edificaion):
Kirk DID know how to drive, as he hinted in the episode ‘A Piece if the Action’: When Spock suggested that 20th Century autos had a device known as “a cl- clutch, I believe, Captain..”, Kirk responded, “Yes, as I recall, the LEFT PEDAL…”;
As for the original Enterprise being built on Earth (at Mare Island Navy yards, in San Francisco, clearly stated in the Star Trek Bible – I have one, don’t you?), we may be looking at the protype vessel, the USS Constitution, who knows who hasn’t seen the movie, right? Besides which, the Ent-1701 could’ve been assembled on earth to be tested & spun up, then powered down, evacuated of all reacants (hydrogen/deuterium fusion fuel, antimatter, etc), and then disassembled into more manageable sections (say, half a warp coil nacelle, a slice-of-pie section of the Command Section at a time, the bridge module & warp core, etc) then beamed up to LEO for re-assembly in space, just as we were all told it was, right?
For that matter, this is a starship! Do you really believe, even if the old girl wasn’t built with landing gear, that she couldn’t take off with those powerful fusion-drive impulse engines? You know she could! Plus, it would SOOO look cool as hell, taking off, and in the 23rd Century, it would probably be quite safe.
As for the charge that the new cast members have no ‘magnetism or charm’, if you ask me, you haven’t been paying attention – Chris Pine, Zach Quinto, and all the others – Urban as Bones (perfect!), Harold sans Kumar as Sulu, and this Pegg guy as the new Scotty, even the skinny Russian kid as Ensign Pavel Checkhov, not to mention the beautiful Zoe Saldanna as Lt Uhura – well, they all look pretty damn good to me!
I mean you no disrespect, Tribbilations, you’re probably a good kid, but for the love of IDIC, puh-leaaase, PAY ATTENTION!!!
Soldier on, pal, and do not forget what Gene Roddenberry’s original vision was all about…
JOHN
Sorry,
The new design isn’t doing it for me either. Perhaps I’m too much of a purist to appreciate the new/old look.
As for casting, has anyone noticed how much the “new” McCoy look remarkably alike to Gary Mitchell? Which reminds me, since this is a “pre-quel” to the original series, would it be too much to ask to bring gary Mitchell into the picture? Just a thought.
In this new time line Kirk’s aimless drifting delays his entry into Star Fleet.
He probably never meets Gary Mitchell, Midshipman Finnegan, Ruth, or Carol Marcus.
If they didn’t set this movie in an alternate future, they would be forced to re-live all of the original plots, including “Spock’s Brain”. This way they can make a clean break and explore strange NEW worlds.
The new ship design, though unappealing, isn’t a deal breaker. I enjoyed Next Gen even though the ship was front and top-heavy looking.
At it’s core, Trek has always been about the human adventure, not the best way to arrange a saucer and three cylinders or where to build it.
@ Cap’n Stevo:
Well spoken, Captain, well said. I could not agree more that it’s all about the spirit of the original series, exploring strange new worlds. Trek fans are lovely, hell, I’m one; but we can all become a little hidebound sometimes, and, as some of us get older, set in our ways. I know I can. This is similar to the controversy over the opening of STNG, the TOS fans vs the new fans of the Ent-D (I was one who LOVED the Galaxy class) – eventually, people accepted it, as a natural evolution of the story of Starfleet & the Federation. An alternate timeline cast & ship would be very healthy and engaging, and what better vehicle to explore that in than the Trek Universe? Everybody knows it and is familiar with it, even non-fans.
Having said that, I would like to state that the 3 stills I downloaded from a website I accessed last year, after the very first trailer hit the theaters, clearly shows what can only be described as a perfectly proportioned Enterprise, enhanced and (if you ask me) improved over what I always thought was a somewhat spindly, baroque design. So the fans may very well wind up being quite happy.
Let’s face it, with the possible exception of the Soverign class (Ent E), the ‘Refit Enterprise’ (NCC-1701, -1701/A) was probably the most graceful, powerful, perfectly proportioned heavy cruiser design among all of them; even the fabulous Galaxy class looked, from certain angles, like a lumbering, overweight water buffalo – and it was the Queen of Starfleet. Even the Ent-E was a replacement not for the Galaxy, but for the tried-&-true Excelsior class, which was getting a bit long in the tooth by mid-24th Century anyway. But the Refit Constitution class – ahhhh, perfect! It had a certain spidery beauty none of the others matched…
Am I right. people? Who’s with me??? Hahahaha!
JOHN
The replies to my comments are fair enough. I’m all for the spirit of adventure through space and all. In my defense, however, this is the forum for opinion.
Having said that, I would like to put forward why I stated what I did. The “alternate time line” argument is getting a bit old (like me). Consider this: I the TNG episode “Relics” in which Scotty shows up and start wandering about the Enterprise D, he comes across the holodeck and asks to see the bridge of the original Enterprise. And, lo and behold, there it is, the original bridge, toggle switches, button and all. Further, another episode from DS9 shows has the Defiant coming across the original Enterprise or “His Enterprise” to be precise and again, we see the original Enterprise, baroque look and all.
Next, in the new movie coming out, it seems that a lot of effort went into finding someone who, with very little effort, could easily be believed to be a young Spock.
Where is all this going? Well, put simply, things seem a little disjointed. The writers wanted to make a movie about the early days of the original crew. Adding a character like Gary Mitchell (which I would have consider awesome) or even Finnegan (briefly) might have given the movie some more depth. However, I guess we’ll just have to wait until the movie’s release to judge that.
However, no one seems to have addressed the question so let me re-phrase it. Does anyone think that the new “McCoy” looks a lot like Gary Mitchell? If I noticed it, surely the casting crew did. Perhaps they just didn’t care about that.
In any event, I do look forward with anticipation to the release of the movie only a about a hundred miles from where I live (i.e. Vulcan, Alberta, Canada) thanks to Leonard Nimoy. Live long and prosper!
@Terry Jones:
“Nobody’s perfect, Saavikam.”
– Captain Spock, to Lt Saavik, on the Phototorp deck of the refit Enterprise.
Hahaha, I take your point, though. I am very impressed with how close to DeForest Kelly Karl Urban is, not only in his appearance but in his speech, no doubt well studied: “…no first officer or captain and no one to re-PLACE him…”
If that isn’t Bones, I don’t know who is! But you’re right, the similarity to Gary Lockwood, good ole Frank Poole from the spaceshio Discovery, is nothing less than startling.
I don’t know who they might get to resemble poor, doomed self-apotheosized Gary Mitchel…maybe Bra Pitt, if he isn’t too old by now, he probably is… but it would’ve been interesting. I like the Finnegan idea too, as well as the lovelies Ruth & Carol Marcus (one of whom I believe Kirk was referring to when he excoriated Mitchell, in ‘Where No Man Has Gone Before’, as the one he set Kirk up with – “I almost MARRIED her!” – but that’s just me), also, didn’t Kirk serve aboard the USS Republic in his Midshipman days? And wasn’t Spock the science officer of the Enterprise, some 13 years before his trial over violation of the Talos IV ban & attempt to save a dying Capt Pike (‘Menagerie’), long before he & Kirk even met? It’s all very confusing…but the great thing about the Trek Universe, besides being there, is that all this can be worked out.
As Scotty once said, in the book of ST IV (though not in the movie, quite unfortunately), only Plank’s Constant is immutable. Lol!
See you in the next timeline, my friend,
JOHN
@ everbody:
Whoops! I misspelled Gary Mitchell & Brad Pitt, sorry about that! I sshould proofread more…
Also, I just made up a joke, inspired by that new commercial about the mad Scotsman in the snap-brim cap, selling motor oil:
What does Scotty do when he’s learned that Kirk has made love to some alien girl?
He slaps him on the back and says “Now that’s thinkin’ with your DIPSTICK, Jimmy!”
Whaddya’ll think? What could be more appropriate for Kirk, interstellar lady-killer?
Well, I’m not a comedian, but I hope U all like it.
Later, JOHN
Saw an ad in a fan magazine for a plastic toy version of this “new” Enterprise. It doesn’t look half bad when viewed from the side looking down.
We really don’t know if, when the past is altered the “original” future is erased, or the time traveler is just sent to another of many alternate time lines that exist in parallel in an infinite multiverse. There was a Next Gen episode where the barrier between time lines started to fray that would seem to suggest the latter.
It is interesting to speculate whether the NX-01 class ships were a part of the “original” time line or were inspired by Zep Cochrane and Lilly’s observations of the Enterprise E in First Contact.
This “new” Enterprise is just as likely a result of Nero’s temporal attack when the Connie class ships were still in the design stages.
It will be interesting to see her in action. Lots of spaceships are shown banking and swooping like aircraft.
If I were Luke Skywalker I would have made an “Asteroids” style coasting pirouette and let Vader have it in the face before he had a chance to call me “daddy”, but then it just wouldn’t be Star Wars, would it?
Will this vectored thrust gizmo add a new dimension? (especially with “inertial dampeners” and “structural integrity fields” in play) And if so, will it still be Star Trek?
I guess time will tell.
The only way to resolve this is if we know for a fact that there is future technology in this movie.
That said, I still don’t see why they would redesign the ship so dramatically. It’s not like they took the design of an even older ship (of that time period) and said what if the Enterprise was more based on that or what if we took some of those design cues. They just slapped the Refit saucer onto something that looks like it would make TNG’s ships look slow.
Nope. That isn’t the Enterprise. That’s the problem with Hollywood. Everyone wants to do a remake these days, but they also want to be “creative” and screw with established material.
One of the things that made “Classic Trek” such a big hit was the memorable props….phasers, communicators, and most of all, the Enterprise itself. If you are doing a prequel to the “Classic”, then the props should at least bare a faint resemblance to the originals.
This new ship looks good, I can at least admit to that, however it is not the Enterprise…it just isn’t.
Oh well. when the new Star Trek is a theatrical flop, perhaps another director will take a crack at it in ten years…AND HOPEFULLY GET THE PROPS RIGHT, DAMN IT!!
I hate to tell you this, but I think the movie is going to be a big hit.
Vic
@JP Jr:
No offense, pal, but U may be pematurely over-reacting. Remembar, none of us have seen the actual movie yet, but there is evidence that this whole plot is built around an alternative timeline scenario – a Romulan bad guy (really bad guy!) named Nero, flies his monster starship Narada back in time from the late 24th centurey, the last time we all saw a Star Trek movie – and the design of this ‘new’ original Enterprise, as well as the lives of the crew, are an empty page – until THEY timewarp back 20 or so years, to save Kirk’s father’s life, completely destroy the Narada (so it’s technology won’t unwittingly wind up in the new Constitution class heavy cruisers, like the Enterprise) and not capture but KILL this Nero badass, so he can’t escape a Fed penal colony and destroy the Earth.
It’s like, I don’t know, Star Trek meets Terminator, with ships…and there is a design for a movie Enterprise circulating the Net which is proportionally exactly identical to the TOS Ent-1701, just more exquisitely detailed – as you might expect for an updated movie prop. I can’t answer as to whether it will be in the movie, but I wouldn’t be surpried if it is, despite rumors that it is just a skilled hoax. Except for a few add-ons, like warp nacelle support braces, a new phototorp bank aft, and some 3-d surface detail, it’s the one we all know & love; I think you’ll like it, so relax, JJ Abrams knows what he’s doing, and this thing’s gonna be a monster hit.
Everybody, please, remember that it was Paramount, the keepers of the franchise, who asked him to head this thing, not only because he knows how to make a hit, but because they trust him to be faithful to Roddenberry’s original concept, and even HE wanted more detail to the ship, but in those days, with the budget Desilu gave them, they could only do so much!
How many times, as the Big E was warping out towards us, did the triple-head printer system make those engine supports almost disappear? I noticed it all the time, and if you ask me, it could a little beefing up…
JOHN
I dont’t like the new design either….
And I wonder WHY IN THE WORLD wasn’t THIS design used:
http://img.trekmovie.com/images/glamshot_0003.jpg
is is recognizable, classic, still got modern looks and forms a believable “pre-design” to the refit version….
There are so many designs like glamshot_0003.jpg that *COULD* have been used that would have kept a lot of the classic elements.
I still don’t know if I can watch this film in theaters if they don’t show a ship resembling the original enterprise at all.
@NCC-174: Thar she blows! I know, a shameless Moby Dick reference, sorry…but this is true.
NCC, I couldn’t agree with U more! THAT’S the ship I have been going on about, the one I first encountered online after seeing the very first movie trailer last year – I think it was shown with ‘Iron Man’ – with the voices of JFK & Leonard Nimoy, showing the construction of the ship at Mare Island (so I’ve heard).
Folks, this is the one they should use, right here! Trekmovie.com has this image, and I have seen it from several different angles, it’s excellent. I personally love all the daddoes & cut-outs around the engineering hull area, especially toward the stern – it always needed a little more detail, not to mention stronger warp nacelle supports, and whoever mocked this up did a really good job, if you ask me. I could even get used to the ‘cobra head’ cowlings over the Bussard hydrogen ram collectors, which, unlike the ‘abomination’, at least glow like they did in TOS.
The good news is, maybe, if there is a God, it’s possible that this is the actual final incarnation of the design the JJ Abrams movie going to use – not the one with hair-dryer-shaped warp nacelles connected to a lower hull that looks, well, squashed, let’s face it – the thing looks like a damn characiture…but the one in your link. How can I say this? Easy:
As I said above, the story plotline involves a corrupted timeline, including (just speculating, now, on my part) the advanced technology harvested from the evil Romulan Nero’s ship, the Nerada, launched from the late 24th Century. In the first permutation of the new timeline, Nero destoys the Kelvin, kills 1st Officer George Samuel Kirk (James Tiberius Kirk’s father), and is stopped in his tracks when the Nerada is disabled, but not destroyed (the Feds’ 1st mistake); this allows Starfleet engineers to reverse-engineer the Nerada, known by them to be Romulan but NOT known to be technology from a century & a half in the future; then, since the Federation is enlightened enough to forswear the death penalty (and, perhaps, also to mine Nero for information, ala Gitmo Bay, lol), they imprison, rather than terminate, Nero himself (mistake #2), allowing him, years later, to escape from prison, build a floating drilling platform, and start imploding planets (there is a movie shot of this drilling beam, presumably from the platform, clearly being observed in the distance by Starfleet Cadets on the Academy Common in San Fransisco).
Having grown up all their lives in a corrupted timeline, the crew (well, the cadets, anyway) come to realize, no doubt with the assistance of an elder Mr Spock (played by Nimoy, also from Century 24), that, to their dismay, their Enterprise is an historical annachronism, a sort of ‘chimera’, made with far-advanced technology, and that the only way to stop the implosion of Earth (if is is Earth, I dunno, maybe it’s Romulus) is for them to timewarp (the beautiful, stark scene in the trailers) back two decades, save Kirk’s dad, kill Nero, and completely destroy the Nerada. Having accomplished this, the timeline is STILL corrupted by the quandry of their very presence (should they survive), their chimera ship, and the fact that the world they left, if they choose to go back to the future (I know, I know) no longer exists…a true paradox.
Where this puts them, I wouldn’t hazard to guess, but I’d be willing to bet real foldin’ money that from this point, it gets really messy! Would they cease to exist? Would all former relationships, from friends to lovers, be now forgotten? Would Spock be bound, with Captain Pike, for Talos IV? Would he be less such a pompous ASS? Would they suddenly find themselves on the Enterprise we remember from TOS (or one very like it)? Will Scotty ever get that hair weave? Will Kirk become a better man for having grown up with his father, eventually inheriting the red Stingray? Will he find himself serving as a young Midshipman on the Starship Republic? Will he ever boink Uhura again? Is Shatner jealous? But I digress…
My point is, having restored the original timeline, the final, sequel-ready Star Trek universe may very well have a ship that looks just like the one in your link, NCC-174.
Thanx so much for putting that link up, I am too dim a bulb to figure out how to put the pics of it I downloaded onto this site, and of course I myself couldn’t find the link again…D’oh!
Also, may I remind everyone that this is just pure speculation on my part, I am merely spit-balling on alternative timeline scenarios from the experience of decades of what I could only describe as a wasted, aimless life…lol!
JOHN
God, I hate the 21st Century…
Sorry, guys – that’s a fan-designed ship. No chance it’ll be in the movie.
Vic
@Vic:
I’m sure you’re right, pal, but remember, it was the fans who resurrected Star Trek after the geniuses at NBC decided the show was too ‘brainy’ for a pre-cable-viewing public headed for Reality TV & primetime game shows; who’s to say that, if we make a big enough noise about the ‘new’ original Enterprise, and especially about continuity. that Abrams won’t change his mind?
It could happen! After all, it IS a better design, right?
Thanx to ya, JOHN
@ Vic
Right, thats what I meanwhile hate about star trek. Every wannabe-writer can come to paramount and rape this universe calling it a “re-invention” of it, totally ignoring fans and forcing people to accept what he is doing.
Star Wars hasn’t got these problems because its creator is still alive and keeps a very close look at how things are made in his movies, this still dosen’t prevent some visual shit sometimes, but at least keeps continuity up….
I think the “true” original design looks better. Sure it might not be as detailed as the Motion Picture version, but it is still a very attractive design, even if it’s inspiration was from the 60′s.
The JJ Abrams version has a few angles that make it look somewhat attractive.
I wish they would have stuck to the original, and true design of the Enterprise.
Groan,
I’ve just recently been reading Screen Rant and I need to get something off my chest. Above, Johnny-O gives a brief overview of the new movie coming out. I must say, I’m very disappointed in Paramount. It’s as though they’ve got absolutely no new ideas. It’s like they wrote yet another time line/distortion because no one had enough originality to do anything else.
It was because of this time line interference that I stopped watching Star Trek Enterprise. What’s really frustrating about the plot is the possibility that at the end, it will be as if it never happened. Can anyone say “dream sequence”? I wonder if the person who wrote this is the same person who wrote the script for “Dallas” — you know, where the entire season was a dream?
@ Purist:
Ah, yes, do I remember Dallas (Btw, I like your handle, U sound like someone who might be worth an intellegent chat or two)! I’ll go you one better: Remember the last scene of the final episode of the sitcom ‘Newhart’? Bob Hartley wakes up in bed with his original wife, played not by Mary Fran but by Suzanne Pleshette. He never ran a hotel in Vermont, never left Chicago, never stopped being the nice psychiatrist who helps people; the whole SERIES was a dream (why couldn’t Abrams have done that with Lost? Okay, I’m kidding)!
Or how about the old medical drama St Elsewhere, the vehicle that launched the career of Denzel Washington & others: In the final scene of the very last episode (does have the advantage of overruling any chance of a spin-off, I will admit that!), the hospital, St Eligius (St Elsewhere) is revealed to be nothing more than a prop building inside a snowglobe, played with by the Chief of Surgery’s autistic son; except he really isn’t a surgeon, just an ordinary, blue-collar kinda guy trying to raise his speacial-needs son.
Here’s a killjoy for you: Young James Tiberius Kirk wakes up to find the delicate, beautiful Nyota Uhura taking a shower in his bathroom, the morning after the night before, when he got the crap kicked out of him by four Starfleet cadets; he got lucky, ’cause it was a pyrric victory, and so he got the girl. Suddenly his dad calls up to bid him downstairs, informing him that his mom has breakfast on the table, reminding him he needs to try to get a move on to get his butt into town to try & find a job, since he has no desire to join Starfleet. Like his father.
He’s looking like a punching bag, he just had possibly the best night of his life, and he can’t even remember it, he’s so hungover. His dad looks like a varsity hunk, his mother is VERY blonde, and 23rd Century or not, it’s a farm, f’Chrissakes, and it IS Iowa! And he has a beautiful African girl in his shower….
What’s a boy to do, invite her to have some bacon & eggs?
JOHN
“Captain…Life is NOT a dream…” – Mr Spock, STV