NBC’s Spin on Stargate Universe Ratings Falls Short

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All we ever hear from NBC when it pitches Stargate Universe is how it beat Stargate Atlantis in some fashion.  They keep trying to equate Stargate Universe ratings to something spectacular.  Sure, the way they spin it, the numbers are great.  But let’s take a closer look at a few items from both shows.

When Stargate Universe (SGU) premiered on October 2nd of 2009, Syfy announced its excitement about the viewer numbers. The 2-part SGU premiere produced 2.3 million viewers, which for Syfy on a Friday night, were decent numbers.

The show averaged almost 2.9 million viewers through October and  Syfy noted with a press release that 2.9 million viewers was better than the last season of Stargate Atlantis.  Or 36% more viewers.

The First 8 Episodes of SGU

More recently, (January 2010) Syfy was getting even more excited about SGU’s ratings because when they add in the Live+7 DVR ratings, the first 8 episodes of SGU averaged of 2.64 million viewers.

They go on to compare these numbers to the 5th and final season of Stargate Atlantis, purporting that it’s a 26% increase in viewers. They just keep comparing SGU’s online and live numbers to Stargate Atlantis 5th season. WHY?

Wait, it gets better.  Do you think I’d be going on and on if it didn’t?

The First 10 Episodes of SGU

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From one of NBC’s latest press releases, “the winter season of Stargate Universe became the most watched Stargate franchise series since 2005 (Stargate Atlantis season 1).”  As if there are a lot of Stargate shows to choose from!

Including Live + 7 DVR viewing data, Stargate Universe’s first year averaged 2.57 million total viewers.  Notice the average dropped from the first 8 episodes?

They go on to compare to SGA, again:  Compared to the 2008-09 Stargate Atlantis season 5, SGU had 22% more total viewers.  This number, is again, down from the first 8 episode stats. They’ve also referenced the first 10 episodes in their press release as “Stargate Universe’s first year.”

I’m getting suspicious.  So now they outright call a half-season of 10 episodes a full season, and declare that it will return for a 2nd season in 2010.

Now that we’re done extolling the virtues of Stargate Universe, comparing it to everything dating back to 2005, I think I want to pitch just one more Stargate Atlantis fact.  One that I dug up on my own, without any help from NBC / Syfy.

The Stargate Atlantis 2004 Numbers

So why doesn’t NBC compare SGU to the 2004 numbers of Stargate Atlantis?

When Stargate Atlantis premiered in 2004, it drew in 4.2 million viewers.  If I were to quote percentages like Syfy likes to do, SGU’s premiere only drew in 56% of the audience that SGA had.  (Did they have DVR numbers in 2004?  Oh… no?). The 4.2 million viewers was the biggest ratings for any of their series’, up to that point.

So What Am I Seeing?

What I’m seeing is how NBC totally torqued the premise of Stargate into a dark mimic of Battlestar Galactica.  They think they’re doing great and they keep telling us just how awesome it is… compared to the last few years of SGA.

Though they went “BSG dark“, their numbers didn’t compare to the BSG mini-series that brought in approximately 3.7 million viewers.  But then they didn’t learn their lesson as the ratings declined consistently from there.  After the mini-series, the Battlestar Galactica series premiere pulled in a Nielsen number of a 2.6, or just under 3 million viewers and on a fairly consistent level, numbers declined from there.  Much like most shows do actually.

So, don’t be fooled by the SGU spin that NBC is pitching at us about how awesome it is performing and what it’s beating.  Sure, it’s doing OK.  But it’s not hitting it out of the park. As I like to think of it:  Most little league parents go totally berserk when their little one nails one… out of the batter’s box.  So too is NBC with their SGU press releases.

Can SGU Be Fixed?

NBC needs to reevaluate their approach to Stargate Universe.  It can be saved, but it needs some serious duct tape to do it.  They’ve set a tone that has caused irreparable harm with the core Stargate audience.  They now need to kiss our a** and make some changes.  That, is what will get their numbers up.

I don’t mind it as it is, but with the depression that is Caprica premiering on January 22nd, Stargate Universe will no longer stand out as the only dark tragedy on Syfy. Maybe now that Comcast has bought into NBC, maybe they’ll step up.

Call me, NBC. I’d be willing to work with you and help make a few changes.  Let’s get Teal’c and Ronon on the Destiny.  That should straighten out Dr. Rush!  Let’s get Lt. Colonel John Sheppard in the mix.  For real, with no stones.  Make something up and get them on the ship!  I know you can do it.

ScreenRant readers, sound off for us.  What do you think they need to add to the show to crank it back up to the Stargate it used to be?  Be creative and be productive.  We already know its shortcomings.  Come up with some constructive changes!  Let NBC know what you’re thinking!

Sources:  Sci Fi Wire, NBC Press Release, Variety, Gateworld, TV By the Numbers, io9

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  1. Hmm… what could SyFy do to save SGU? In my opinion they have a few options, listed in no particular order:

    1) Abandon their current plan for a soap opera set in space that barely does anything with scifi but show some interesting special effect shots of celestial phenomena. Go back to the tried and true format that has always made the Stargate franchise popular.

    2) Continue on with a character based drama, but hire people to manage it who actually know how to write for such a show. After Dollhouse got the axe, I'd say the perfect choice would be to give Joss Whedon a call. Not expecting that to happen.

    3) Continue down the same path of a character based drama, but add in some of the elements that make sci-fi popular (this doesn't strictly mean action FYI) which so far have been largely lacking from the show. Make the characters LIKABLE, not a bunch of bumbling ego-inflated crybabies who make terrible decisions and fight amongst themselves constantly. These people, even if they're not supposed to be the best and the brightest, are still supposed to be people who made it through the clearance standards of the SGC. That means they are not military commanders with no leadership experience or scientists who are at the bottom/middle of their field (except perhaps for some comic relief). With the stones, there's no reason that the best and brightest of the stargate universe should not be playing an active roll on the ship, rather than let a bunch of idiots try and screw up more.

    I'd say the network execs who considered SGA a eventual failure should take a long hard look at why SGA lost a lot of viewers eventually. It wasn't because the format of the show was somehow not working, it was much more caused by the fact that the writers were doing stupid things with their characters. Ford was too hard to write for apparently, so they basically got rid of him. Dr. Weir went down the same path. Ronin became much more 2-dimensional than Teal'c ever was, Teyla's roll was downgraded frequently, and then the writer brought in one of the least popular stargate characters ever (Wolsey) to lead the expedition. This shows that the people in charge were making extremely poor choices in my opinion, and I believe that caused a lot of viewers to lose interest. The first season of SGA was by far the best, though there were occasionally some gems thrown in there after that.

    So far the only halfway decent episode of SGU was the mid-season finale, which involved a plot so infintile that an intelligent 10-year old could see the flaws. It also left a cliff hanger so ridiculous that any possible recovery will only serve to make the show less believable than it already was.

    The show has a decent amount of potential, but its not being used at all in my opinion. And that's what needs to change if the show has any chance of surviving.

  2. The analogy to a sports team is an interesting one. People stick with a sports team when they're down because they have some connection to the team, whether it be the city in which they live, a player who's in a slump, a coaching staff that just doesn't have a lot to work with at the moment due to lack of funding, etc. (I should note I'm from Detroit, so I understand this idea all too well… remember we have both the Tigers AND the Lions). The difference here is that the connection we have to Stargate has pretty much always been the the characters and the adventure/exploration theme the shows have relied on. We have people in charge of the franchise who are doing their best to kill the theme of the show (how much exploration can be possible when Destiny is in range of a planet for like 12 hours and never again?) and also that the characters are not very likable. Where before we followed SG-1 and SGA through hokey writing and repetetive plots, we did it because we still had those connections. With SGU we don't have that anymore, and so far the show hasn't provided much in the way of a new reaon to like it, as in pursuing its stated goal of a dark character based drama it falls flat to other comparable show. We're not fair-weather fans at all. We're fans of something which now only exists in reruns, but which also has an impostor doing something very different. To put it in the sports metaphor, they've sold our team to an owner who's first decision was to fire nearly all the players, nearly all the coaching staff and move the team to a different city. Pretty much the only reasons for doing something like that would be either extreme short-sighted arrogance or a desire to actually destroy the franchise.

  3. Hmm… what could SyFy do to save SGU? In my opinion they have a few options, listed in no particular order:

    1) Abandon their current plan for a soap opera set in space that barely does anything with scifi but show some interesting special effect shots of celestial phenomena. Go back to the tried and true format that has always made the Stargate franchise popular.

    2) Continue on with a character based drama, but hire people to manage it who actually know how to write for such a show. After Dollhouse got the axe, I'd say the perfect choice would be to give Joss Whedon a call. Not expecting that to happen.

    3) Continue down the same path of a character based drama, but add in some of the elements that make sci-fi popular (this doesn't strictly mean action FYI) which so far have been largely lacking from the show. Make the characters LIKABLE, not a bunch of bumbling ego-inflated crybabies who make terrible decisions and fight amongst themselves constantly. These people, even if they're not supposed to be the best and the brightest, are still supposed to be people who made it through the clearance standards of the SGC. That means they are not military commanders with no leadership experience or scientists who are at the bottom/middle of their field (except perhaps for some comic relief). With the stones, there's no reason that the best and brightest of the stargate universe should not be playing an active roll on the ship, rather than let a bunch of idiots try and screw up more.

    I'd say the network execs who considered SGA a eventual failure should take a long hard look at why SGA lost a lot of viewers eventually. It wasn't because the format of the show was somehow not working, it was much more caused by the fact that the writers were doing stupid things with their characters. Ford was too hard to write for apparently, so they basically got rid of him. Dr. Weir went down the same path. Ronin became much more 2-dimensional than Teal'c ever was, Teyla's roll was downgraded frequently, and then the writer brought in one of the least popular stargate characters ever (Wolsey) to lead the expedition. This shows that the people in charge were making extremely poor choices in my opinion, and I believe that caused a lot of viewers to lose interest. The first season of SGA was by far the best, though there were occasionally some gems thrown in there after that.

    So far the only halfway decent episode of SGU was the mid-season finale, which involved a plot so infintile that an intelligent 10-year old could see the flaws. It also left a cliff hanger so ridiculous that any possible recovery will only serve to make the show less believable than it already was.

    The show has a decent amount of potential, but its not being used at all in my opinion. And that's what needs to change if the show has any chance of surviving.

  4. The analogy to a sports team is an interesting one. People stick with a sports team when they're down because they have some connection to the team, whether it be the city in which they live, a player who's in a slump, a coaching staff that just doesn't have a lot to work with at the moment due to lack of funding, etc. (I should note I'm from Detroit, so I understand this idea all too well… remember we have both the Tigers AND the Lions). The difference here is that the connection we have to Stargate has pretty much always been the the characters and the adventure/exploration theme the shows have relied on. We have people in charge of the franchise who are doing their best to kill the theme of the show (how much exploration can be possible when Destiny is in range of a planet for like 12 hours and never again?) and also that the characters are not very likable. Where before we followed SG-1 and SGA through hokey writing and repetetive plots, we did it because we still had those connections. With SGU we don't have that anymore, and so far the show hasn't provided much in the way of a new reaon to like it, as in pursuing its stated goal of a dark character based drama it falls flat to other comparable show. We're not fair-weather fans at all. We're fans of something which now only exists in reruns, but which also has an impostor doing something very different. To put it in the sports metaphor, they've sold our team to an owner who's first decision was to fire nearly all the players, nearly all the coaching staff and move the team to a different city. Pretty much the only reasons for doing something like that would be either extreme short-sighted arrogance or a desire to actually destroy the franchise.

    • I think so far Stargate Universe has been the best addition to the franchise by far. I am a fan of the original movie but had a tough time staying interested with the subsequent spin offs. SGU to me, has been dark, and well written, the acting has been above average and I feel like this more hard science fiction and a lot of thought has gone into how these characters would really act and react to the situations they find themselves in. I am very excited to see where this show will go and the journey it will take us on.

  5. They need to start encountering some stargates. It is called Stargate, after all.
    Also, encounter more alien life.

    I had hopes that this show could be more like Sliders of old, where they travelled around, but had to leave when the timer was up, or be stuck forever. On each planet, the characters had an adventure. That was such a good show. Lessons could definitely be taken from it. That's just my 2 cents…

  6. On the original Stargate SG-1, people generally liked the good guys and disliked the bad guys. The main four people of the colonel, the major, the doctor, and Teal’c were all great people who did whatever it took to do the right thing. They were interesting, and they were fun. Some have said that the producers of SGU tried to make the show “different” from the original Stargate television series. They succeeded, but they did it by removing almost everything good about the original series.

    When the original SG-1 team had a problem, they worked until they solved it. Sure, they might have gotten testy when lives were on the line and the answers weren’t coming, but who wouldn’t have?

    By comparison, Stargate Universe consists of a ship of the biggest whiners in the..well the *universe*. I challenge anyone to get a timing device and time how long it was from the moment they boarded the ship until we heard the first, “I want to go home!”. I think it was about five minutes. This sums up the entire show. They should rename the show “A Bunch of Whiners on a Spaceship.”

    The original SG-1 Team would never leave a man behind, and if they did, they would risk everything to get that man back, which they demonstraged again and again. On SGU, people frame other people for murder, leave people to rot on an empty planet, stage muntinies, lie, spy, and do whatever other evil thing you can think of. It’s as if the writers watched too many soap operas and spent too many years watching CBS’s Survivor and they think all the characters should act like Russell Hainz.

    There is not ONE person on the show I like. The relationships feel strained and not genunine. I have seen more real human emotion in five minutes of “Lost” than in the first 10 episodes of SGU.

    A perfect example of what is wrong with the show occurs in the first few episodes when we are told about the relationship between Eli and Chloe. Eli says in narration that Chloe is the best friend that he’s ever had, but up until this point, all we have seen was the two of them exchange a few words to each other. Wouldn’t it have been great if they had shown a touching scene of them becoming great friends? It would have been great, but it could not happen on the “Life is a huge bummer” SGU show.

    Instead, all we get between them is a kind word here and there, or maybe a hug. The Colonel and Tamara are going to have a *baby* together. Did we get to see their courtship? Did we get to see them be touching to each other? No, we get to see them act awkwardly around each other most of the time. Oh, but we do get to see the Colonel and his wife treat each other badly, thank God for that!

    It’s as if the writers are depressives who keep saying to themselves “Life is hard, and in order for the show to be realistic, we need to keep beating the characters down with how hard their life is.” This is *supposed* to be entertainment. My real life is hard enough. I don’t turn on sci fi to wallow in the misery of made up people. I can read the NEWS and wallow in the miser of real life people for that.

    I keep watching because I like science fiction, because I loved the original series, and I keep hoping that it will get better.
    SGU better bring some of the bright shininess of SG-1 to the show, or eventually the whining, shallowless, lack of compasion, and misery will become too much for the viewers to bare.

    Alternately, people might just use the show for a fun drinking game: drink whenever someone bitches, moans, whines, or whenever something bad happens to one of the characters. The players will get so drunk they won’t know what hit them. :)

    • You’re drinking game would work really well with Stargate Atlantis. There was this character name Rodney McKay that did nothing but whine and groan. It’s also not a fair assessment of SGU. Most of the whining people refer to was in an episode when people really thought they were going to die in a few hourse. Since they most of them have buckled down and contributed.

  7. oddly enough… SGU has triggered my return to science fiction…
    the last time I watched much was TNG and DS9… I tried to like Stargate Atlantis and even gave Battlestar Gallactica a chance… but I couldn’t do it.

    I finally found a show that intrigues me enough to pay attention to science fiction, and while I might be the target audience, I’m here and I am watching.

  8. Why does sci-fi need to be driven by driven by a Disney-like mindset of happy shaggy dog story lines to succeed? ( Oh, what are we going to do this episode? Hey, let’s do something different let’s explore another planet and encounter a new alien race. And let’s end it with some poignant moral statement) that’s realistic ? First, being stuck on an alien craft ( that you have little control over) is a dark place to be for anyone- military, civilian, male or female of any age. People move to dark places when under duress or panic. Why wouldn’ t people with different backgrounds strain each others patience (to say the least) in a confined place? People do it all the time here on this planet and with a lot more space around us. For me, realism and evolving suspense trumps something that is routine and simplistic.
    I never liked any of the SG shows before this one. Nor, did i like BSG until Caprica, in fact, i thought they were terrible!!! Maybe, i just like darker more believable sci-fi over the usual drivel that is pumped out by the studios catering to the lowest common denominator. Don’t get me wrong, i love a well crafted show with well developed characters that are fun and humorous like Firefly ( but, alas, looked what happened to that show !) ratings killed it! Ratings often kill smart, entertaining shows that have a savvy and thoughtful audience. Ratings do not determine whether or not a show is good, only wether or not it is popular and/or understood. If the darker story and stimulating character development doesn’t appeal to you stop whining and trying to tear a good thing down that others enjoy and go turn the disney channel on.

    • I’m with you. I think it’s ok to have family friendly childrens Science fiction but some people think that’s all science fiction is. Like they’ve never seen Alien, Aliens, 2001, 2010 and even Firefly and Serenity for that matter. There are plenty of campy family friendly sci-fi shows out there but SGU is something intelligent for the grownups and those of us that read science fiction and are really into astronomy not just endless dull space battles.

  9. What we loved about SC1 and SGA were that the teams had each other’s backs, nomatter WHAT. In *Universe*, they constantly bicker at and plot against each other. This is not mystery theater, it’s Sci-Fi. We want clear good guys who stick their neck out for each other and a level of trust and companionship we can’t find in other channels.
    Oh yeah, and REAL sci-fi characters would be able to figure out a way back to earth. PERIOD. It might take a couple episodes, but surely they’d have a creative, “one in a million” idea and you know what? It would work, and they’d be heroes, and get home. End of story. SG Atlantis is not a real stargate show and it never will be. It’s entirely unfixable, beyond any hope of repair. Kill it and give us something real.

  10. The season finale was awful. 5 part episode with no closure. Cancel now please

  11. At what point does something stop being Sci-fi?
    For me -SGU has crossed the line and has more in common with ‘the Bold and Beautiful’ than ‘real’ scifi.
    Think about the past scifi ‘greats’ (Firefly, the Star Treks, Battlestar G, the other Stargates, etc.) -most didn’t even have sex scenes and the few that did (like BSG), used them sparingly to illustrate a point or to advance plot/character development.

    To me the StarGate franchise used to be about humor and fun (there was some intelligence too).
    I can not recall a single instance of ‘technobabble’ in SGU however I can remember at least 3 or 4 sex scenes off the top of my head.

    By just throwing in sex for no ‘real’ point, they just cheapen everything.
    It is like admiring the ‘perfect’ girl from afar, then you get close and discover that she is plastered with make up and is always willing to give it up for a klondike bar.

    It’s way too shallow/lame/cheesy to be BSG and it is not ‘Star Trek-ie’ (thought driven/etc.) enough to be Voyager…just give it up.

  12. I agree completely that SGU is a Soap Opera and not Sci-fi.

    As September comes into view I would like to know how the ratings will be when it is moved to Tuesday nights. Tuesday nights are gonna be a hard sale for such a week show as that is a big night for DWTS and other network channels.

  13. All they need to do to fix SGU is cancel it and bring back SGA. It’s pretty simple. No one wanted SGA to be canceled, it was the best Stargate series there’s ever been. But seriously, I think the worst thing about SGU is that it’s too dark. I mean, SGA was dark at times, but it was full of action and witty banter, SGU is dark and boring. There was an interview with Joe Flanigan where he talked about SGU and he said he’d never watched it because when it premiered, he was watching with his sons and about 15 minutes it, they said they didn’t want to watch it because it was boring.

  14. SGU is terrible.. very poor very disspaointing .. waht a waste of airtime and money

  15. i belive that ending stargate atlantis was a mayjor mistake on the part of the producers as atlantis and universe could have played off of one another that episodes of atlantis could have been devoted with the atlantis wormhole drive to search for rush and his team giving the producers the time to keep the elements of what is good about stargate universe and get rid of the bad elements i think that they should have kept atlantis if not as a full series but as a minnie series i think they would have kept the fans happy

  16. All they need to do to fix SGU is nothing. Easily the best Stargate Show. I was hooked by Episode 4 when they showed a deep appreciation for astronomy and space exploration. I guess the show could be improved by less earth based stories and less character pop ins from previous Stargate shows but other than that SGU is Science Fiction at it’s best.

    • I agree with Skiznot. SGU is true hardcore Science Fiction at its best. I put it up there with the classics like Babylon 5. When I watch a Science Fiction series I want to be left feeling in awe of science and the universe with all its wonder. I don’t want some action series or a soap opera, I want my Science Fiction TV programs and their writers to go back to their roots and write “real” Science Fiction. That is what Stargate Universe has done, and I’m really happy with the outcome. There aren’t enough Science Fiction TV series’ of this quality around. We need more. I can only hope that all the critics and negativity towards SGU doesn’t result in the show getting cancelled, which happens all too often when a Science Fiction show doesn’t reach a wider audience, who by the sounds of it, the majority only ever want more action, comedy and drama, which leaves “true” core Science Fiction out in the cold.

      • How is SGU true hardcore sci-fi? It’s a soap opera on a space ship.. What SG-1 and Atlantis did was what I see as true sci-fi. To boldly go where no man has gone before. Exploration of new planets, not explorations of the very unconvincing human psyche and semi attractive girls underpants..

        As you say, wider audiences want more action, comedy and drama. Of which SGU only delivers one (drama) and poorly at that. I watched the first half of season 1, 10 episodes. At that point, there had not yet been anything even resembling science in the show. There had, however, been a lot of crying and whining and yelling and screaming.

        But hey.. I guess if Babylon 5 (drama with wonky costumes) pass as something science related, then hey.. SGU is for you, and I’m happy for you.

        I’m more bitter about them canning SG:A and SG-1 than I am about them creating Space Anatomy.

        • SGU is indeed true scifi, while I really liked watching SG1 I simply could not stand the cheesiness that was sga. Apparently all the races in the universe are humans, they all speak english (I know they said they did it to save costs but I dont buy into all that, its simply lack of imagination). With SGU it looks like the whole series grew up, there are real problems, real solutions and by the looks of the newer Season 2 episodes, real losses. I think SGU has attempted to explore the more philosophical questions of science like why are we here, what is consciousness etc. Even science considers these as very prominent problems worth pursuing. That said I dont think the series is perfect, some episodes seemed just thrust in for no rhyme or reason, like cloverdale (wtf was that all about?) but I have simply enjoyed watching SGU so far and really hope the series continues.

    • You are right I am a SGU junky. By far the best tv show in history. It is so feasible without the unbelievable. One change, they need Rodney from Atlantis to take off and fly Atlantis out of San Francisco Bay and show Rush a real wise ass.

      • I’m glad to see some people still like SGU. Like you said it is more feasible. I find the world of SGU to be more believable than any other SG program, mainly due to the fact they face realistic problems, each episode doesn’t feel constructed and plastic, there are no good and evil characters/aliens, just shades of grey and the perils which anyone would face if they found themselves lost in the universe. Yes introducing Rodney, even if it was done using the stones would be nice to see. He is one of my favourite characters, along side Samantha Carter, Daniel Jackson, Tea’c and Jack O’Neil. You can’t beat Jacks sense of humour, which was always refreshing.

    • I agree.SGU is the best sci fi show ever…..and robert carlyle is awesome.Doesn’t hurt the show that he is smokin hot either.

  17. I like the dark presentation of SGU and the fact that they’ve tried to create a series where not every episode has another new alien menace to deal with, but really…other than the plot premise, what the HELL has happened in the show? Week after week of …..NOTHING. Next weeks exciting episode: “The toilets are overflowing! …and we can’t find the shutoff!

    The cookie cutter contrived juxtaposition of dysfunctional Machiavellian misfits is like a cross between The Real World and Sartre’s No Exit. I don’t believe these personalities…

    Doctor Nicholas “I’m not Baltar” Rush – “Don’t disturb me, I’m working. You’d know were your aped brain capable of understand even my most basic bodily functions. Did I mention I hate authority? …cause….well, just because.”

    Chloe “Bedknobs” Armstrong – “I pout, I brood, then I brood some more. When bored, I often walk around the ship with half my clothes staring blankly until someone yanks me into their quarters to have their way with me. Don’t hate me; it’s how I roll.”

    Tamara “TJ” Johansen – “It’s my job to remind people what normal is after all their anti-depressants wore off.

    Colonel Everett “I once played soccer with gout” Young – “Back to work egghead. Just don’t do anything….suspicious”.

    Camile “I’m so sneaky” Wray – “I’ve got your back!….in my sights”.

    Ronald “Die die die” Greer – “You wanna’ fight about it?”

  18. What needs to happen is for SGU to be cancelled so that Devlin and Emmerich can complete their movie franchise. Stargate fans (the REAL ones, not the ones pandering to this SGU soap opera) have already decided that the movie happens in an alternate universe. The problem is, as long as MGM is spitting out Stargate shows, the movies will never be made. Keeping this in mind, doesn’t SGU look more like a punch in the face to the duo rather than an actual attempt at a good show or movie? We know that hormone-ridden individuals are going to drool all over this as long as there’s sexual tension and characters jumping into closets together, so I guess we can kiss the Stargate sequels goodbye.

    • i dont agree that devlin and emmerich should be allowed to make another stargate movie they had their chance if their was to be any stargate series to be given a theatrical release it should be stargate sg1 with richard dean anderson i couldnt see anyone else playing jack o neil or stargate atlantis with joe flanigan i think they would be box office success now to stargate universe yes i think its poor and i think the producers created their own problem when they cancelled atlantis straight away i dont know what wiil save sgu but had atlantis not been cancelled the fans proberly would have stuck with the new series longer

  19. I Think SGU is a lot better than previous SG shows. The older ones were tacky, plastic, SGU feels real. I agree that all the earth based episodes were boring but that seems to be all over now, i’m always excited for next week’s episode.

  20. With the new “improved” Season 2 pushing the sub-million barrier it’s pretty obvious from the start all they did was alienate their loyal fanbase and toss them to the wind. Two major stars doesn’t make up for the fact that the shakey cam makes the show unwatchable for more than 10 seconds.

    What were they thinking?

  21. SGU cannot be fixed. Its too late to try and make these horrible characters interesting. I don’t care about any of them. Nothing happens on the show except forced drama. I don’t find anything entertaining about watching adults throw tantrums each week and behave like morans. There is no sense of exploration, friendship or anything engaging in the show whatsoever. The so called science fiction consists of magic, mystical or just downright unexplained crap.

  22. I really and truly dislike the music montages that SGU delves into every single episode! I watch it with a friends on weekends, and we always joke about which music montage they will do this time. Will it be Chloe and Scott in bed again (who cares if they like exercising the mattress – I don’t want to see that) or will it be Dr. Rush dripping tears or looking sullen, or Johannsen feeling sorry for herself, or will it be people jogging around the ship, watering plants etc etc? My goodness, of all the ways to waste screen time, this has to be IT for me. I don’t mind it on occasion and when necessary, but they really need to stop using the SAME formula EVERY single episode. Someone once referred to this show as Battlegate Voyager 90210 – and it is quite accurate, with a few differences from its namesakes. Battlestar had quite a fast pace, lots of action, and lacked the silly music montages – the only ‘gate’ is the link to the stargate, and this series is a poor follow on from its predecessors. Voyager, well, at least the crew of Voyager got on with it and did some serious exploring, and 90210 – well, Chloe, Eli, Johannsen, Scott and the double-D marine lady? Need I say more?

    People quickly tire of the same thing over and over again – especially an intelligent audience, which is the exact audience Sci-Fi shows are pitched at. If this show does not shape up soon, I think it will join the stargate and SG-10 down the sci-fi drain aka P3W-451.

  23. I can’t take it anymore…

    I started out with SGA and loved it so much that I had to have more, I created a HULU account and watched every single SG1 episode over a period of a year or so, and then every SGA and loved them both. I followed SGA right up to the end. I was sad and disappointed to see it end. It wasn’t perfect but it was entertaining, it wasn’t smutty, it was funny at times, and the franchise and actors didn’t seem to take themselves too seriously. I fell in love with the characters, I was routing for them… with some exceptions. Yes sometimes the acting was bad, and the formula was predictable but I was always hoping for some new and interesting episodes and every now and again we would get some real winners that would make it all worthwhile.
    Then SGU came out….
    Now… I’m just so, so, so disappointed.
    I can barely watch an episode, last night I fast forwarded almost every part of the flash back scenes, it was so obvious and transparent and fake and … frankly uninteresting.
    I don’t want to watch a soap, I don’t want to watch angry people every week fighting with each other… I want to see us explore the galaxy, find some cool technology, find a civilization in a virtual world and move in for a while. There is not a single character I care about… I mean seriously you could kill anyone off and I wouldn’t even notice… I’m just disappointed. Please do something to save the franchise; I want to see it turn around… I don’t want to be embarrassed anymore when my wife sits down to watch with me… this is just so bad.
    Dump the sex scenes, and love interests… stop already with the constant fighting and back biting and malicious behavior on the ship… let us believe in these people, instead of hating everyone. I want someone with integrity to believe in…. I want to pull for these people and hope they make it…. Right now I’m hoping that they all die, and someone else comes up with an interesting show that can replace this.
    What if we had a better alternate reality that we could jump ship to… could we have one character survive a cataclysmic event that results in the destruction of the destiny and everyone on board. One person could live long enough to see this new reality where most of the crew gets along and believes in something and then have that character die and let us just pick up with this new crew from this other dimension and continue as if we were just having a bad dream for season 1 and 2 of SGU.
    What can be done to save the franchise, I’m a loyal fan but I can barely bring myself to watch anymore! I have some ideas for stories, I’m sure other fans do too. Why don’t they ask the real fans for input… How do you even reach out to them?

  24. I’m glad SyFy is trying new things, for too long it was just turning out comedies set in a world of science fiction. Which don’t get me wrong, I loved just as much as anyone else, but the whole purpose of science fiction is to promote forward thinking, and it’s refreshing to see them taking such risks. First of all the production value of both SGU and Caprica hugely exceed anything they have ever done including most of their made for syfy movies. I am very pleased with that, it’s as if every week you are tuning in for a new short film, which is great.

    Secondly, and more importantly, they are taking time to develop these characters, and get you into the story, which is what a first season of anything should be about, at the same time also beginning a whole series of unanswered questions and premises to create great story lines later on, and really get you involved in these characters lives.

    All I am saying is, is that it has been a long time since we have had character’s like Commander Data who you felt like you were growing with or learning to be more human with. Or maybe seeing how Riker was always there for troy, and hoping that Janeway got everyone home. These were some of the best moments of my childhood watching these character’s grow together and feeling like you were a part of their crew, and I just think, that we are seeing that come back in a new and fresh, and maybe even in a little more intense kind of way.

    Personally, I like it, and I want to see where they go with it, not to mention they do pay a decent amount of attention to incorporating old story lines from prior SG’s and the history and continuity of those shows, plus a good amount of the value promotion such as the importance of the amount of mathematics involved with space travel as an example, I mean they aren’t as enlightened as the crew of any of the enterprises, because it is set in our time, and not in a Utopian distant future, but they do their best to try and do what’s right within the confines of our current limitations of the meaning. I have much more to say, but I think this comment is too long already.

  25. The show is unfixable. Since this article was written it has absolutely crashed in the ratings. The early ratings took advantage of Stargate viewers who gave the show it’s chance to impress for several episodes. After the disastrous “Earth” episode they left in droves. Some even started websites like sgusucks.com. I ask you, how many hit shows receive that sort of treatment?

    I’d like to see Screenrant update the situation especially in light of the recent desperate pleas from the producers for viewers. It wasn’t so long ago that they were tossing their former demographic aside in favour of fresh young “bums in seats”. Seems there just isn’t enough of them to keep the show alive much longer.

  26. I believe that the people making Stargate-series needs to finish their season-ending movie about Atlantis. Named Stargate: Instinction if I remember correctly? I think SGU is great, actually. But I would love it if they’d brought one or more from the original SG-1, and/or Atlantis cast into the mix. Sheppard would try to take charge over Destiny, which I believe would be great because he is a great leader. I also think SGU is making it so that every character is troubled during the season and in the end of season 2, we will see some serious explosion on an emotional level.

    Dr. Mckay is suppose to be in a episode or two, I really hope they don’t ruin his reputation. He is one of the world most genius persons, and he will teach Rush a lession, not the other way around. Maybe Destiny drives into another ship and then immidiatly StarGate Central forms a whormhole and Sheppard, Carter, Mckay and another one steps through… So great!

  27. I have the PERFECT ending for this abomination:

    In the final episode, in the middle of the magical musical montage, just STOP THE SONG AND GO TO BLACK.

    And then… A close-up of General Jack O’Neill, HE SITS UP IN BED, AWAKENING FROM A NIGHTMARE! He looks obviously FRIGHTENED. He reaches over to his nightstand and turns on the light. In bed next to him, Colonel Samantha Carter rolls over and asks, “Jack, are you okay?”

    He turns to her and says “I just had this HORRIBLE DREAM that the SGC was taken over by… A$$HOLES.”

    She kisses him on the cheek and says “Go back to sleep”.

    And he does.

    • That is the best way to edn it!

  28. I concur. I was disappointed with SGU. It appeared to be an attempt to copy the feel and techniques of Battlestar Galactica which I never cared that much for. Too disjointed, dark, and erratic for me. I also loath the hand held camera effect. I really hope that is a fad that goes away. It doesn’t make things more tense to me just jumpier and unprofessional looking. Too much of it (Cloverfield) makes me nauseous and gives me a headache. What I like about the other Stargate franchises were the camaraderie and teamwork along with some thought provoking episodes. The teams had people of different personality makeups but they cared for one another and weren’t too childish to set them aside when need be and work together constructively to solve problems. Overall in my entertainment I do seek something positive, constructive, uplifting that gives one something to aspire toward. Too many cast changes were the things that over time dampened my viewing enthusiasm with the other shows. Particularly Atlantis in seasons 3 &4. This series like Battlestar is more a psychological exercise looking into the dark inner corners of the human mind and very different in character from the others. I will give it another try though minus the expectation it will fill the niche left by other Stargate series for me. I appreciated Markie’s comments though and I will give it another try minus the expectation that it will fill the niche for me the other Stargate series or the Star Trek franchise did.

  29. Liked all the SG’s, but watching those, shows me what they are trying to do with SGU. It’s refreshing, (granted the earth relations type episodes bored me to death) but I see it was necessaries to try an build the characters and their history to have a base for the show to be built on.

    Mistakes were made with the previous ones leading to having to explain constantly why some bit of kit couldn’t be used.

    Now I know in the states you like ur food so hopefully u can relate to SGU been like eating slowly with an knife and fork, savouring every bite rather than stuffing your greedy fat insecure face full of pie. True its easy to slag it off when compared to 300+ episodes of comfort zone characters, but give it a chance, its an new slate, ANYTHING can happen.

    Good things come to those that choose to be patient. Those who are not, are not often aware of what their comments say about them, something that we all can take enjoyment from reading, you know “the young don’t always do what they are told”, but they will, one day, learn.

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