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  • i said how take off the new cobras mask
  • phyrhed
    thandrale says:
    June 27, 2009 at 4:44 pm

    The problem with a character with a blank mask is how does the actor act in it? He can’t show any emotions. So I imagine they have changed it enough that the actor can use his acting ability a bit. Otherwise they could just pull a Darth Vader and just have a voice actor do it.

    THAT'S WHY DARTH VADER works!!!! Cmon! Put the blasted MASK BACK ON! Cobra Commander looks ridiculous! ...I will not be wasting my money to this LAME movie...This movie has SOOOO MANY things wrong!! Steven Sommers has no idea how to make a great movie...he should take some lessons from Christopher Noland.

    I agree with the them when THEY SAY KEEP THE MASK! That's a lame excuse to say that if you don't see the actors face they cant act!...look at VADER . if Lucas could make that work, everyone else learn. another example was Gary Oldman in the Silence of the Lambs sequel...A GREAT actor can pull that off, If you cant do it.. your ACTOR is any good!
  • Zach009
    From the look of the mask on the packaging for the toy of cobra commander, it is disheartening. Why you gotta mess with Cobra Commanders mask? An actor can still portray real emotion through bodylanguage even if you can't see his face. From the trailers I have seen, I think this movie will be a real dissapointment. I will wait to see it and keep an open mind, but right now I feel the wrong people got ahold of it to make it.
  • SpaceCowboy1701
    @ Soundwave

    No problem.

    I'm really curious to see how this one is received by the general public since it's been so long since these characters were out there for the mainstream public.
  • Soundwave
    @space cowboy1701

    thanks for the info. It's been a while and I needed a refresh.
  • SpaceCowboy1701
    The animated movie has an awesome introduction sequence ... but wasn't too satisfying to me, then or now. I just couldn't buy into the whole organic technology-based civilization business. It's worth watching, but tried to take the series off in a strange direction, even for a cartoon that was pretty science-fiction driven. Note that the new GI Joe: Resolute doesn't use any of that material. Resolute was fun to watch ... again a little strange, since there's blood and swearing, things that weren't in the old shows, but weren't too gratuitous. It was cool to see Snake Eyes do his ninja work with more realistic consequences for the bad guys. I don't have a link handy for Resolute, but I think you can find it on YouTube or the Adult Swim site. If you like GI Joe or action cartoons, you should check it out.
  • INK
    The Cartoons did address how Cobra Commander got disfigured.
    In Gi Joe The Movie it tells Cobra Commanders story. Where he came from, why he started Cobra and more. It is a great animated film. AND, Duke gets critically wounded by a snake from Serpentor actually showing blood squirting from Duke's chest.

    YouTube link for part 1
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZdgIA7E1xU
  • Soundwave
    @Vic

    f-bombs? U sure you got the right person?
  • Ken J
    @thandrale

    But the problem is, if he had the hood like in the cartoons, his face is STILL covered and you're presented with the same problem...
  • thandrale
    The problem with a character with a blank mask is how does the actor act in it? He can't show any emotions. So I imagine they have changed it enough that the actor can use his acting ability a bit. Otherwise they could just pull a Darth Vader and just have a voice actor do it.
  • steven the git
    That's right! He was disfigured saving her - all comes back now.

    Makes me wonder why they have changed that. Such a good aspect of the character.
  • jago
    i kinda find it wierd its not coming out in 3d though... ah well. I guess i'm in the minority for wanting to watch it for marlon wayans... i do like quaid though... innerspace till this day is still one of my favorite movies. Hopefully it doesn't get remade...lol.
  • Andy S
    I was never a big GI Joe fan (comic book or cartoon), but I thought the trailer showed a fun action movie. Plus I also like Dennis Quaid. The Cobra Commander action figure, though, looks really dumb. As in Deadpool-sewn-shut-mouth dumb.
  • SpaceCowboy1701
    @ steven the git

    Another change I ran across in the new Joe is that Snake Eyes is no longer mute due to disfigurement, but because of a vow of silence (at least according to one piece I read). Now, I dont' think his disfigurement was ever specifically addressed in the cartoon, but it was a big deal in the comics, since he got that way rescuing Scarlett.

    I guess the unmasked characters here don't really bother me as much since this an origin story and, over the course of the comic run, they unmasked them all at one point or another -- even the mangled Snake Eyes (yuck).
  • Phil G
    And before anybody mentions it, yes I know that's how some people would describe Transformers, but hey, these movies had big transforming robots kicking the crap out of each other. ;)
  • Phil G
    ogb, count me in as being one of your minority groupies then, I also happen to like Quaid. If I go see this movie it'll be because he's in it, that and Ray Park is playing Snake-Eyes.

    At least the movie seems to have done some credit to the Stormshadow character, too, in terms of looks.

    I don't mind that they are changing things around for the G.I.Joe franchise, but some things are already good enough in the first place... why fix what isn't broken in the first place? Spider-Man succeeded despite being a masked superhero. Yes, Tobey got his share of scenes, unmasked, but I think nobody would have minded if they had made a movie where Spidey was Spidey 90% of the time and Peter Parker the other 10%...

    Anyway, that's not even my biggest problem with the movie thus far from what I've glimpsed of the trailers. It just seems like it's going to be an overdone special effects extravaganza with very little plot and character.
  • steven the git
    Yeah Snake-eyes was the cool ninja. He's one of the main ones I remember. Never spoke either (I think).

    High Kalibur - it was the same voice, by Chris Latta. He was great with the high pitched rants.

    Masked characters are losing the struggle for sure. You know what will happen next. Someone will make a Judge Dredd movie and decide to remove his....
    Oh wait.
  • SpaceCowboy1701
    @ Voice of Reason

    You're probably remembering Snake Eyes the ninja / commando who was generally one of the most popular characters ... Cobra Commander was always a posturing dweeb in the old cartoons, just smart enough to hatch a plan that his own arrogance would undermine. Not so in the comics. He postured and was psychotic, but definitely not a dweeb.

    They got Larry Hama, the original writer of the Marvel comic GI Joe run to consult on this, so hopefully some good will come of it, as he produced a number of surprisingly good characters and storylines. Nevertheless, my expectations are kind of low at this point.

    From what I've seen / read so far, there will be an element of the movie dealing with Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow and their ongoing feud, but their backstory has changed from the comic continuity, which is kind of a shame.

    I'll reserve judgement on the new look for Cobra Commander until I see how they deal with it on screen, though I'll admit my gut reaction is to prefer the old "rag face" look and not go with the disfigurement. The comic book character was just a normal-looking guy in either a helmet or mask, but the cartoon character was a crazy mutated guy, so there's precedent for either one.
  • ogb
    Tatum must have an AMAZING agent.

    Seriously, he has a personality of an Alabama high school football jock.

    And yet I see his name everywhere.

    Sorry to rant.

    Huntthejest is 100% right. Ray Park and JGL are the only talent here (I also like Dennis Quaid, but I know I'm a minority).

    The Mummy was a great movie but the director lost his touch.
  • huntthejest
    This movie stopped tracking on my radar when they cast the guy from "Step Up" as Duke. Geez. I just checked this board to see if they spill on JGL's role in Inception. No dice. That being said, him and Ray Park are the only good things attached to this film. Can't believe Tatum snagged a role in Public Enemies(think about placing Patrick Swayze in the Godfather.) Oh well.
  • Cookie Garris
    @Wickamo

    I agree with you that they can't make the movie exactly like the cartoon. It's like reading a book the second time and gets boring.
    But if Cobra Commander looks like that action figure above then the people who made this film went completely out to left field.
    This movie could be worse than the remake of The Day The Earth Stood Still which is one of the worst movies ever.
  • Wickamo
    Guys, I think you just have to accept the fact that you can't always keep everything exactly the same when making movies from comic books or cartoons or toys...etc. If they had put wolverine in yellow spandex and giant black ear fin things...you would have thought that looked stupid. Right? I don't think that cobra commander having a cloth over his head would have worked in this case either. Why would anyone do that to hid their face anyway. doesn't make sense except maybe in a cartoon. They have to change things to work in the real world scenario of a live action movie. But it's still a movie made from a kids cartoon...just dialed up for adults also. It's still going to be a bit fantastical (if that's even a word). So you just have to accept it for what it is and enjoy the ride. Set realism aside cause...it's just not really that important with a movie like this. I guess what I'm trying to say is just chill and have fun...isn't that what going to the movies is supposed to be about?
  • High Kalibur
    Both cartoon versions of Cobra Commander are awesome -- I don't even know which one I prefer. I remember him wearing the one at the top of the page when he was sitting on a throne in the cartoons. I think the metallic one would make more sense for combat. Regardless, the production design of the cartoon was more realistic, believable and a lot cooler then whatever they are doing with that toy. As a matter of fact, that toy is not Cobra. That is the result of somebody who probably never watched a GI Joe cartoon or read a GI Joe Marvel comic (yeah, you're not a true fan unless you know what I am talking about), making something up because they want to be "original". When you base a film off of 'previously published material' you should keep some of what was good. Not just take the name.

    GI Joe could be amazing... I have no hope for this film. And isn't the guy playing Cobra the kid that was on 3rd Rock from the Sun...? And everyone says that was a good casting choice?

    Cobra Commander is an evil master minding badass along the lines of military Doctor Doom but he has passion like Magneto.

    Oh and I almost forgot... his voice... his classic voice... I believe it was the same voice that did Starscream in the Transformer cartoon... does anyone know? That voice is classic... and it is a safe bet that he won't even sound like that.

    I would have to say that Cobra, Baroness, Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow (is he even in it?) are the characters that will define whether or not that was a good adaption. The forecast is grim.

    Hey does anybody remember Fire Fly...?

    I think I have thrown in the towel as far as childhood adaptions are concerned... no reason to expect non-fans to forge these films with integrity.
  • Should be fixed now thanks for the heads up.
  • Phil G
    Yeah, one of the reasons I became immediately skeptical about the G.I.Joe movie was the apparent treatment of the "masked" members of Cobra from the trailers.

    BTW... Public Enemies... this movie I actually know nothing about, so I tried to click on the link to see information about it, and it led to a dead link. Just pointing it out.
  • ludovicotek
    I believe I read a script review of the film that included minor spoilers concerning the Cobra Commander character and why we haven't seen him in promotions thus far...


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    Still there? Well supposedly he appears earlier in the film as a character called the Doctor and throughout the course of the film it is revealed that he is Cobra Commander. I guess they want to try and keep the plot twist a surprise. Unlike what I just did.
  • @Voice of Reason

    Come on, man - you should know we don't allow f-bombs in comments. I removed it from yours.

    Don't make work for me, I have enough to do.

    Vic
  • Voice of Reason
    If they used the look like the original (that picture at the top of the page) it would be so much cooler but no they have to mess it up! Is cobra commander the badass I remember or is it snake eyes? I'm not sure.
  • Luke
    Yeah, I was also really disappointed to hear he was doing this. I mean, I can understand wanting to do a big mainstream movie, but he's such an awesome actor it's a shame that he did this instead of playing a villain in a Marvel movie or something.
  • Mike
    I always thought Cobra characters were "cooler" and personally I would have just advertised using Cobra characters in bad ass mode
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