My Advice To Stargate Producers: Move On

Published 7 years ago by , Updated February 9th, 2012 at 9:30 pm,

stargate sg 1 My Advice To Stargate Producers: Move OnAs Stargate SG-1 rapidly approaches the end of it’s 10 year run, there’s word the producers of the show are developing yet another Stargate-themed series titled Stargate Universe.

There are no details available regarding the show beyond the fact that it takes place present-day like SG-1 and Stargate Atlantis and that it would not have characters from the two existing series as regulars.

The show is in the very early stages of development and has not been picked up for broadcast by any network, including the Sci Fi Channel.

Here’s my advice to the awesome folks who’ve brought us a fantastic series: Give it a rest. Apply your considerable talents to something completely new and different.

Now before you start throwing rocks my way, hear me out…


Stargate SG-1 was an amazing idea: Take a mildly successful film, see the possibilities for an ongoing series and go for it. A present-day, Earth-based sci fi series with an incredible cast of characters played by wonderful actors that had chemistry with each other from day one.

It was such a good show that I did my best to turn lots of people on to it through word of mouth… my family would eagerly look forward to Friday night to sit down and watch the latest adventures of the team. We came into the series late – sometime during the 5th or 6th season, but thanks to the wonder of DVD rentals via Netflix, I piled the previous seasons’ DVDs into my rental queue and we watched episode after episode until we finally caught up with the current season.

Ah, times were good.

And then Jack O’Neill (Richard Dean Anderson) left the show.

Suddenly the show felt like something was missing… like it had developed a limp. New characters were brought on board and at the same time they introduced a completely new enemy: The Ori.

Ok sure, it’s taken a couple of years but Mitchell and Vala finally feel like they’re adopted members of the family. But the end of the Goa’uld threat seemed abrupt to me, and I really didn’t like the less than subtle religion-bashing subtext of the Ori as villains.

Now in this final season, suddenly the Ori are (mostly) defeated and we’ve gone back to dealing with rebel Jaffa. It was a jarring transition from “our galaxy is doomed because of the Ori” to “Ori-who?”.

Although Mitchell and Vala have grown on me as characters, I still think that Stargate SG-1 should have ended with Season 8, when O’Neill left the show. That could have been a perfect point at which to wrap up the entire thing, going out while it was still super-strong. Instead, the show went on to feel like a series that’s just hanging on for it’s own sake.

Stargate Atlantis was slow to start but they’re starting to approach the chemistry of the old SG-1 team (although I still just can’t buy Torri Higginson as the leader of the facility and wish that the orginal actress Jessica Steen had reprised the role). The show isn’t bad and I think that it will improve with the addition of Amanda Tapping as Samantha Carter to the show. So, ok, let Atlantis carry on the torch for a while.

But do we really need another Stargate-themed series? It’s not that I don’t love Stargate… it’s not that at all. It’s just that I don’t want to see the franchise die a slow, painful death like another famous sci fi TV franchise you may have heard of:

Star Trek

The fans clamored for more and more and Paramount delivered. But each new iteration of the show seemed a poorer copy of the original than the last. Kind of like making a copy of a copy of a copy in a Xerox machine. We had the first film, which although not great (the recently released director’s cut is MUCH better, BTW), set the stage for more movies, which thrilled fans of the original series. Then came Star Trek: The Next Generation, which while a bit too antiseptic and touchy-feely, still had it’s great moments. DS9 was the first series to go off in a different direction, and while difficult to get used to was in the end a great series (except for the series finale episode). Then came the incredibly awful Star Trek: Voyager which was bad for more reasons than I care to cover here.

Finally, Star Trek: Enterprise arrived, with an interesting concept: the early days of starship travel. Unfortunately even though it was supposed to take place 100 years before Kirk and Co., the technology seemed remarkably close to that of the NCC-1701, with phasers, the transporter and things running without a glitch. The show hit it’s nadir in Season 3, where for some bizarre reason the producers decided to take the show in a direction totally disconnected from the basic premise. There was an effort to bring it back to where it should have been from the start with Manny Coto coming on board to guide the show, but alas, it was too late and although the final season was the best of the series, viewership had dropped too far off for the studio to consider renewing it.

What’s the point of this Star Trek rant? I don’t want to see the same thing happen to Stargate, where it ends up going on and on for the sake of making a buck, getting worse and worse as time goes on. Oh sure, it won’t have Rick Berman and Brannon Braga at the helm and that’s a HUGE plus, but things tend to creep up on you and I’m betting that the same thing would happen to Stargate that happened to Star Trek over the years.

So Brad Wright, Robert C. Cooper and company – you guys have created an amazing mythos. I would humbly suggest that you apply your incredible talents and love of sci fi to something completely new that fans can fall in love with all over again!

Source: Sci Fi Wire

TAGS: stargate, stargate sg-1

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  1. Dang it, Vic. Why do you have to go and be all logical about this sort of thing?? (and kudos for working the word “nadir” in there. I haven’t seen or used that word since english lit in college.)
    First, I am a HUGE Stargate fan. Having collected all the seasons of SG1, SGA, and the cartoon Startgate: Infinity, I can say I LOOOVE the show and its concept.
    I agree that SG1 should have gone away with RDA, but at the same time am looking forward to the movies to close up the story line left open with Season 10. Personally I think SG1 struggled on for two more seasons to get the record for longest running sci-fi show and usurpping the title from X-files for their 9 seasons.
    I think the storyline with Mitchell and Vala could have been a new show, with Sam and Teal’c and Daniel showing up on SGA or guest appearances on this new show.
    I agree also on the Gou’ld and the Ori as enemies issue. SG1 battles the Gou’ld, SGA has the Wraith, the new show should have had the Ori.
    Do I think a new show would cause the franchise meet the same fate as StarTrek? I could only hope.
    The Series.
    Voyager.
    Next Generation.
    DS9.
    Enterprise.
    And ump-teen movies later, it is still booming.

    StarTrek is a LEGACY. Yeah, the shows were ill-fated and the movies are getting long in the tooth, but we still have MILLIONS of people who are proud to dress up and call themselves ‘trekkies’.
    I, for one, am geeky enough to want to be part of a Stargate legacy, and be called a ‘Gater’. The Stargate empire has TONS more potential, I just hope they don’t suck it dry before they throw in the towel.

    On the other hand, my bi-polar-istic side also says, its like a life-long family dog. She’s old and needs to be put down before she suffers too much. I’ll shed my tears and miss her and she’ll never be forgotten, but it might be for the best.

    BTW, they never concluded the love story between O’neill and Carter, dang it!!

  2. “And ump-teen movies later, it[Star Trek] is still booming.”

    Well the reruns of older shows and movies are doing all right. And sure, there’s Star Trek 11 on the horizon, but that ALMOST didn’t get made. The only reason it is going forward is because they dumped the old production team that drove the franchise into the abyss and happened to snag a currently “hot” name (J.J. Abrams). We’ll have to see how the new movie does…

    “I just hope they don’t suck it dry before they throw in the towel.”

    That’s exactly my point. :-)

    O’Neill/Carter… yeah, that’s true. On the one hand you HAVE to keep them apart. Any time there’s been an “almost together” couple on a TV series that they allowed to finally hook up, the consequences have always been awful and the show goes downhill. It’s the old story of “having a thing may not be as good as wanting it.” :-) And with Carter going on to Atlantis, I don’t want to see the relationship resolved.

    As far as I’m concerned they can allow them to get together when it’s a lock that neither of them will be coming back to any Stargate-themed show after the episode where they finally give in. :-)

    And “nadir”, yeah… cool word. ;-)

    Vic

  3. While you make some good points, as much as it pains me to admit it (I love the series, and wouldn’t mind it going on for a few more seasons), there is one thing stopping Stargate from free-falling to the depths of the latter-day Trek vehicles: the creative team. Unless they develop a seeming desire to run the Stargate universe into the ground (a la Trek’s Braga and Berman), I really wouldn’t mind seeing another spin-off. The premise of Stargate being what it is, there are still a lot of interesting areas to explore.

  4. Karyk,

    I *did* mention that specifically up above. :-)

    Vic

  5. I really was hoping that SG-1 would end with the Stargate program finally going public. I mean, at least if they did that, you could argue that there would be a significant change in the dynamic of the show could be viewed through the lens of a newly aware public on Earth to the sudden realization that the universe just got a lot smaller, so to speak. Maybe that will still happen eventually during Atlantis’ run, but I won’t count on it. There are a few avenues you could take it to make it avoid the Star Trek trap, but it would require some kind of dramatic shift in perspective to give it a reason to exist.

  6. Jersey,

    Yeah, that’s a good point (going public). In regards to shifting perspective, I think that’s what they tried to do with “Atlantis” and it’s not working out too badly.

    Vic

  7. What is the meaning of this, i have reacently heard that there will not be a season 11 of stargate SG-1, how can this be, this show is one of the gratest programes i have ever seen , If not the gratest. is it simply the the cast does not wish to continue to carry on or is it the fact that you are running out of funds that you are not capable of continuing with Stargate SG-1, if this is that case I would gladley start a fund to raise more money and I am sure others feel the same about this as I do.

    If the case is that the cast does not want to continue playing in the best TV Show i have ever seen, please try to convince them to stay on as many people are devastated with this news.

    I will be willing to speek to them on your behalf, if you could only contact me ( Nicholas James Macmillan ) by any of the following:

    ukhawkjnr@hotmail.com

    icamean_burn666@hotmail.co.uk

    01303 779575

    07790418882

    I would be gratefull if you would get them to contact me so i can convince the cast and the producers to remain on the show for many, many years to come.
    Please contact me as soon as possible.

    Thank you for taking the time to read this, have a nice day

    Nicholas Macmillan

    p.s. sorry about the spelling

  8. Stargate broadcast too important for modulation of strategic thinking re internet. Also good for growing up memory of D. But that’s us.

    Knights of Columbus

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