Michael Myers To Be Mask-less For Most Of Halloween 2
Apr 8, 2009 by Ross MillerOne of the things fans of the original Halloween (and the character of Michael Myers) would consider most important would be the mask. Even for …
One of the things fans of the original Halloween (and the character of Michael Myers) would consider most important would be the mask. Even for those who may not have seen the film, the look of the character (but particularly that mask) is iconic.
They obviously updated the mask for Rob Zombie’s horrible remake of the film – not drastically, mind you, but enough to make it work better in our current movie-going age. Taking that into consideration, you’d expect that they’d continue with that mask for the sequel H2: Halloween 2, right? Wrong. According to make-up FX artist Wayne Toth, Myers will be without the mask for at least 70% of the movie!
Here’s what Toth had to say:
“That’s Michael’s new look for a lot of the film. Fans will be shocked. They seem pretty responsive to it. But it’s like anything else, as long as you’re doing something cool, people get it.”
However, Toth also lets fans know they will see some new versions of the mask:
“There are a couple different versions of the mask, but none of them are the same mask from the first film. He wanted to take them a step further, even though one of them is basically supposed to be the last mask. We’ve changed it anyway. Then towards the end of the film is the current version of the mask which is a lot different from any of them we’ve seen. People are going to be surprised when they see it. It’s going to throw the Myers’ fans for a loop.”
When older movies get remade, I understand that some things need to be changed, and some things are simply changed for the director to put their unique stamp on the idea. Although I am not a fan of what Zombie did with his remake of Halloween (IMHO, he’s a horrible director who should never be allowed near a film camera again), I can appreciate that he wanted to go his own, fresh, way with it. No matter how bad it turned out.
At least he didn’t slavishly stick shot-by-shot to the original (hint).
However, there’s a difference between putting your own stamp on a classic idea and neutering the whole thing altogether. Having a character known distinctly for wearing a creepy and mysterious mask suddenly without that mask for almost three quarters of the film is a plain ridiculous idea.
Who knows, maybe what they come up with will work fantastically, but to me, the essence of Michael Myers is he’s a masked killer. For some reason, they’re deciding to let that mask slip…
But enough talk from me, you judge for yourself. Here’s a pic of actor Tyler Mane on the set of H2 as Michael Myers, sans mask:
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Do you agree that Michael Myers going mask-less for most of H2 is a bad idea? Were you a fan of Zombie’s remake and are you looking forward to this one?
H2: Halloween 2 is set to be released on August 28, 2009.
Sources: ShockTillYouDrop & Worst Previews
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I’ve never seen any of the films but I will say the dude without a mask above isn’t scary in the least………he looks like my Uncle after a case of beer.
thats a bad idea to have him maskless. i liked the remake, but i’m a little worried about this one
What’s next, Nightmare on Elm street remake with Freddy not burned?
Rob Zombie is a great director, House of 1000 Corpses was great, the ending was sub par but Devils Rejects was brilliant, great film, true horror IMHO, Halloween was good, I liked it a lot, it was creepy and never too over the top, as far as you saying you think he sucks, I think you suck for saying he sucks!
The mask never did it for me, so i cant say this is any worse.
Leatherface without the mask, now that would be unforgivable.
With Zombie everyday is April fools! Just ridiculous.
chuck
HA! He looks like my dad twenty years ago!!! Or like a redneck after a hard day at the Quick-E-Lube!!! Or… MY DAD!!! Pfffffff.
to me the ” halloween” movies were like a stalkers guide in how to hide in plain sight without getting the cops called on you… Lol. I guess he could blend in with the crowd without his mask now… Somewhat lol. They might bring back chucky as a teddy bear… On the bright side, as a teddy bear he could get closer for the kill.
Also… Ugh i thought you guys didnt show spoilers…
i thought the movie was great and zombie has done some interesting stuff with today’s horror scene. he’s one of the most original horror directors out right now, he has a definite style to his movies and it’s harsh and violent, but it works. I wouldn’t understand a decision to change the mask (it’s like taking a superheroes iconic costume away), but from what I’ve seen of his process, i imagine it is a well thought out part of the story. So I’m going to trust him and hopefully see this soon.
I loved his remake, but myers without his mask seems pointless. I can see that zombie wants to go his own way with this movie, but seriously, most of the movie without a mask, isn’t that just going to be a serial killer movie, rather than another halloween.
Also, whats next, if/when they make a number 3, will he not go that bit firther and make it a myers movie without myers at all, just some copy cat.
@almanza,
There’s a difference between being blunt and on-the-nose, and just having harsh language and brutal violence for the sake of it. For instance, the early scene in his Halloween remake in the kitchen with Michael’s parents: The entire conversation basically consists of swear words, and Zombie always has the harshest of tone with every one of those swear words. That’s just one of the many examples – he just has all of this stuff for the sake of being bold and brash, and it comes off pretty unwatchable/unlistenable.
Now there’s filmmakers like Tarantino who also have tons of swearing but he makes it flow naturally, for example you can believe the Reservoir Dogs WOULD talk like that round the table at a restaraunt. It’s never soar on the ears, because it feels completely natural for those characters to be speaking that way.
And IMHO, Zombie’s House of 1000 Corpses and The Devil’s Rejects are HORRENDOUS, sad excuses for “horror” movies. The ONLY thing he’s done worth a s*** is his Werewolf Women of the SS fake-trailer in Grindhouse, but as as for his feature films…urgh…
(Btw, I am speaking of Zombie purely as a filmmaker – I actually don’t mind his music. Not a fan at all, but I don’t mind it, if I’m honest)
Also, just thought, it would work if most of the time, myers face was hidden, much like before he dropped on his mask on H1.However, if its all clear view, I think it won’t be what it could be. However, what do I know, i thought the remake was going to be bad and I pretty much loved it.
@Ross Miller
I thought the vulgar language was good in the first movie. I had the impression that it was one of the reasons for Myers’s violent future.
I do agree its not entirely needed, but I don’t find it a bad thing.
@baker2d “Also, whats next, if/when they make a number 3, will he not go that bit firther and make it a myers movie without myers at all, just some copy cat.”
Cool, as long as it’s not some kids killing people because they were hyponotised by tv like in Helloween 3
@Huggybear very true, although i didn’t mind number 3 of the originals, i really hope he doesn’t do a similar one. I’d much prefer it to be like number 1/2… look we need to see this one, getting ahead of myself really.
@jago
We put plenty of spoiler space around that image.
Vic
@baker2d,
That was one of the things that made Zombie’s version so bad – he took away one of the absolute core elements of the original character and turned it into a backstory we have seen a million times: The whole mythology of Michael Myers is evil is just born, and that’s that. But Zombie feels the need to change it to the fact he had horrible parents, and a bad environment to grew up in, blah blah…the same stuff we’ve seen a million times.
He proved why remakes are almost never a good idea – yeah if they turn out bad we still have the original, but the very fact that the remake exists soils it. For instance, if you ask young teens about Highlander they’ll think you’re talking about that TV show, and, indeed, if you ask them about Halloween, they’ll all now think you’re talking about Zombie’s version.
See my remakes and sequels article for more of my thoughts on this issue:-) – http://screenrant.com/movie-remakes-movie-sequels-ross-5327/
Lol… I know i know… Just messing with you vic..
I can see why you don’t like Halloween if you have such an affection for the original. I was born a year before the original so I didn’t see it until about 20 years after its release, and I didn’t care for it, I liked Rob Zombies version better.
Rob wanted a different version of Michael Meyes, an interesting one. Hes already done the evil for the sake of it, see Otis and Captain Spaulding, and he did it in take-no-prisoner balls out fashion. I felt uncomfortable watching it and THATS what made it good. I wasn’t trying to balance popcorn and drink coke and get comfy I was sitting on the edge of my seat and cringing, that’s what I like in Horror and he delivers that to me, and a lot of other people in a way not many other people can in this genra. Well have to agree to disagee on this one.
i think its such a bad decision not even wear that iconic mask! Big MISTAKE I LOVE THE MASK
That’s retarded….I mean bitching and fanboy complaining is one thing, but this is just being mad at how lazy the writers and director are.
Thinking up some easy idea doesn’t beat trying, and this is just not trying. Hey guys you so why Michael always need to wear a mask? I think we can do something really out of the box with that idea! No you can’t. Try harder.
While I agree that it is somewhat stupid to have Myers without the mask, as long as the non masked Myers works that’s all I care about. I actually enjoyed Zombie’s Halloween and his other movies. It didn’t seem to me like Myers was just killing people because he had a rough childhood. He was evil all around. And as for the harsh language, well I couldn’t care less. I have a bad habit of foul language myself and I hear it all the time too, so I wasn’t offended at all. There isn’t too many horror movies I watch anymore because they’re mostly stupid. I’m looking forward to this one though.
@Richard,
That’s the thing – I DON’T have an affection for the original (although it may have sounded like I do from what I said), actually I think it’s highly overrated. But I still can appreciate the original idea, and as a horror character/icon, I think Myers is fantastic.
As for what you said about that’s what horror movies should be – I am not one of those people who likes horror to be safe (i.e. boo!, then safe, boo! again, then safe again etc), but I just don’t think it should be about having all of this stuff just for the sake of it. Maybe you can look at Zombie’s Halloween remake and feel like all the stuff that’s happening on-screen is warranted, but what Zombie does in all of his films is exactly what horror SHOULDN’T be, IMHO.
Well, as one who loves the original Carpenter film up and down, all I have to say is: What’s the big deal?
Let’s get really 110% serious die hard core uber fanboy here. In Carpenter’s original, Myers didn’t have the mask on as a kid, didn’t wear the mask in the asylum, didn’t wear the mask during the escape from the asylum. While stalking during the day, he was either:
- shown at a distance where you couldn’t tell if he had a mask or not,
- character was filmed driving with back to camera so you could not see his face/mask
- camera films him at an angle where you cannot “see” his face/mask, but the frame ends about near the neckline
Also during a brief scene, we saw him without the mask (although he quickly put it back on).
In other words, people, as iconic as the mask is, in the Carpenter film, we never got a real good look at Myers with the mask in until the first half of the movie and very briefly saw his banged up face near the end of the film.
Now, do I think Rob Zombie made an error here with Grizzly Adams above? Yes, I do.
Do I think it is also think it is Rob Zombie’s mistake to make? Yes I do.
Do I think there will be another Halloween film with or without Zombie after this, and with the mask or a variation of it? Yes.
Hypethically, do I think that if Zombie was given the third of the Texas Chainsaw remake series that he would change Leatherface? No. I also don’t think he’d take away Candyman’s hook or the syringe from Dr. Herbert West’s hand? No, of course not. Because what do we know here? Yes, Myers doesn’t have his mask on “all the time” (makes sense to me, actually) but in the film, at some point he does have that mask or a variation of it.
I don’t think his previous film in the redo was anything great. Degrading, yes. Not great. But while I’m not crazy about the idea, I can’t completely dismiss it either.
‘Sides, if nothing else, it makes the eyes roll and gets interest in the follow up. There’s probably a reason why Myers is “mask”less for most of H2. It may be a dumb idea, it may be a good one.
We will find out either way.
I was 50/50 with Zombie’s first go at the Halloween remake. Now, I’m very excited about this moive, However, I take into considering that this is a Rob Zombie movie and not the classic Halloween I know and love. Myers without a mask does sound kind of werid, stupid, and like a WHAT THE HELL kind of thing. I trust Zombie’s judgement with this Halloween movie because I’m a fan of his. I’m not a total fan of his but I’ve liked his pervious work. I give Zombie my 100% blessings that he will do a great job with this film. After all this is a Rob Zombie movie and it’s HIS OWN STORY AND WORK.
Well let’s just completely destroy the franchise. That’s what Zombie is doing by unmasking MM. Stick to death metal or whatever that music is.
Hi I’m only commenting because all I see currently here is people trying to get others to belive their opinion…. honestly there is no true movie or anything that was “crappy” or “stupid” because it’s only your opinion in H2 Michael will wear the mask but as I recall he was wearing a mask which was torn up badly like from the right eye and open……. so I’m here to say please do not argue over opinionated things because no one is right and no one is wrong everyone has their own opinion and that’s what they believe…….. think what you want…. I believe it will be good because Myers wears a huge coat that hides his face…. I enjoyed the original and the remake……… but when opinions start arguements things will only get worse so please do not fight over your opinions think what you wish to think so I’m going to end this paragraph here so yeah bye