“HOLLYWOOD HAS LOST IT’S BALLS.”

The Terminator in 1984 was an excellent if low’ish budget movie and a massive success, and why?, the special effects were very good for the time but not awesome, it was basically just a chase movie so why did it work?. “The idea” “The idea” “The idea” Jim Cameron had a great idea it’s that simple.

Terminator 2 again a massive success why it was just another chase movie, massive budget and hugely improved special effects, but that wasn’t the key to it’s success. Again it was the “idea” Cameron again had a brilliant “idea”, turn the scenario on it’s head a bit having the big Austrian protect the central protagonist and not trying to destroy him. A real stroke of genius that worked perfectly.

Terminator 3 really failed on exactly the same premise. No new idea, no spark, Typical hollywood money machine fodder. “Let’s take the best bits of the previous two and it’ll work”. Well as we all know it just didn’t.

So where could the franchise go but into the post judgement day era, and it really should have worked in mixing the terminator franchise with a Mad Max world. I really enjoyed Salvation but not on any other level than a pretty good action movie, I had no intention of writing a blog about it were it not for the rumours I am already hearing on the web. I just didn’t feel opinionated enough to add my 50 cents to the cloud of noise but now I have to.

So it seems evident already that Salvation will make a profit, will do well at the box office, well enough to justify a 5th chapter, but already and in no small part because the film has not terminated everything else at the box office there is shear panic about what chapter 5 should be.

When Mr charlies angels was recruited to deliver terminator 4, I was of the same mind as many that this guy isn’t up to the job, but let’s look at where McG has shown the mythology great respect.

T600 rubber skin check !
HK’s check
Kyle learning how to tie off his shotgun to himself (really subtle nod to the original)
The Sarah tapes, photo and redheaded wife of connor, chech, check and check !
Action, chase sequences and lots of explosions check.
The Connor scar (ok a bit of a clumsy “look, look we expain that too” moment)

Ok he’s made mistakes, the brilliant cgi Arnie just wasn’t that brilliant, destroyed city vista’s are great but not if they are flanked by obviously 50 yr old forests (paint them out in post, you lazy fool, if concrete doesn’t survive a nuclear blast neither does timber). The marcus character was a bit of a weak idea, but overall it was far better than chapter 3 in the franchise but not a batman begin’s reboot moment.

The news on Terminator 5 is truely terrifying. A time travelling john Conner, Hk’s travelling through time, Robert Patrick as a scientist obviously designing the t-1000 (Alien 3 anyone?). If even one of these rumours hold’s any water what it tells me is the money men are saying…

“T4 isn’t going to make us a boat load of cash PANNNICCCC, copy the old films, bring in the people from the old films, travel through time, do anything to make it rock”

Any respect for the timeline of the original trilogy that was shown in T4 would be terminated, trampled over and crushed underfoot worse than any damage to the poxy little T.V series cash in “Sarah Connor Chronicles” ever did.

Show some balls McG stick to your gun’s progress the franchise in the post judgement day era, do no capitulate to money driven fools who wish to patronise the audience with “you just want a robot chasing someone in present day L.A really don’t you, ok we’ll go back to that formulae”

The only reason the last few episode of that show was good was because they were killing everyone off. The second season was very disappointing in my opinion. And now it looks like it’s cancelled. Oh well, it could have been interesting to see a resistence under different leadership than John Connor. Watch it succeed faster than before, John would feel like crap, lol.

Although I think that would only completely ruin the integrity of the franchise but its almost ruined anyway…

The Flying HK was also refined as the ones we saw the future war scenes in T3 were a tad more heavily armed…

From the description Terminator gave John Conner (T2) the military started off by using Cyberdyne microchips in the stealth fighters. I believe that Skynet’s evolution was altered by the time T3 occurred. Therefore this allows for new designs in cyborg hardware…

As for a Robert Patrick based film, i’m all for it as long as its kept logically sound.

Second the T-1000 was a prototype and only one was created. It was never fully tested it was just sent back asap… (Source: T2, novel based on the screenplay by Cameron/ Wisher.)

Later (Dark Horse Comics) expanded on the T-1000 origin. His likeness was based on a resistance soldier that was teamed up with Reese. He was captured and drugged for information by Skynet, then killed by two T-1000′s who both took his likeness. One went back to the past to kill John/T2, the other infiltrated the resistance after the fall of Skynet and was able to sneek past the celebrating humans, long enough to gain access to the crippled Skynet infrastructure and download a backup program. The series ended as the last T-1000 walked into the night, supposedly to restart Skynet at one of its other Command centers.
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If anyones into Terminator I highly reccomend that comic series. I forget the title but it came out several years after T2. Just google, (Dark Horse Terminator comics).

And yes I totally agree Cat, that would have killed the franchise harder then Indy 4 killed Jones…
I remember when that rumor came out, Mcg totally denied it was true,,, another true lie,,,

It’s what I do when ever I think of the X-men: The Last Stand. Just consider it an unfinished trilogy. Never happened. lalalalalalala).

A year ago, there were rumours that the movie may include a character or two from the TV series to tie it all together but it was all later debunked.

If anything, they need to put in Brian Austin Green in this new trilogy of films.