Comments on: McG Plugs Some Terminator Salvation Plot Holes http://screenrant.com/mcg-asnwers-some-terminator-salvation-plot-questions-kofi-10690/ TV and Movie News without the Sugar Coating Sun, 22 Nov 2009 05:46:37 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Chris http://screenrant.com/mcg-asnwers-some-terminator-salvation-plot-questions-kofi-10690/comment-page-4/#comment-144352 Chris Sun, 18 Oct 2009 14:15:05 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=10690#comment-144352 Yoka, You're comparing the T800 and skynet against each other with an 11 year gap for "upgrades, modifications" and such. The t800 in salvation was the first one, in t1 there were probably a good 200 upgrades made in between the 2. Yoka, You’re comparing the T800 and skynet against each other with an 11 year gap for “upgrades, modifications” and such. The t800 in salvation was the first one, in t1 there were probably a good 200 upgrades made in between the 2.

]]> By: YokoDaClown http://screenrant.com/mcg-asnwers-some-terminator-salvation-plot-questions-kofi-10690/comment-page-4/#comment-144350 YokoDaClown Sun, 18 Oct 2009 14:08:40 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=10690#comment-144350 It's actually quite weird that how suddenly the terminators suck at fighting a single human like Jonh Connor in a fist fight in the Terminator Salvation. In the Salvation the T800 appears to make only a few throws and pushes at John and Kyle too though it had a perfect spot to kill John as the terminator appeared behind both of them. A real t800 or a t1000 could kill any human with one punch lol, Just like in the beginning of the T1. And...Skynet base isn't supposed to have some inteligelly desinged cool looking rooms like the place where Marcus Wright was at and in the end the whole Marcus character was a bit of a useless character in t4, it would have done better without him I believe. In the end the Movie was ok... not clearly as good as I expected by what the trailer showed. It’s actually quite weird that how suddenly the terminators suck at fighting a single human like Jonh Connor in a fist fight in the Terminator Salvation.
In the Salvation the T800 appears to make only a few throws and pushes at John and Kyle too though it had a perfect spot to kill John as the terminator appeared behind both of them.
A real t800 or a t1000 could kill any human with one punch lol, Just like in the beginning of the T1.
And…Skynet base isn’t supposed to have some inteligelly desinged cool looking rooms like the place where Marcus Wright was at and in the end the whole Marcus character was a bit of a useless character in t4, it would have done better without him I believe.
In the end the Movie was ok… not clearly as good as I expected by what the trailer showed.

]]> By: poopyness http://screenrant.com/mcg-asnwers-some-terminator-salvation-plot-questions-kofi-10690/comment-page-4/#comment-112457 poopyness Wed, 22 Jul 2009 23:41:15 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=10690#comment-112457 why did they lure john connor to "kill him", with the imprisoned kyle reese, when they could have just killed kyle reese right there, which would have deleted john connor from histroy? I liked the movie, but there's a fault in the plot. why did they lure john connor to “kill him”, with the imprisoned kyle reese, when they could have just killed kyle reese right there, which would have deleted john connor from histroy? I liked the movie, but there’s a fault in the plot.

]]> By: Terminator Salvation (movie review) « The Rebelutionary http://screenrant.com/mcg-asnwers-some-terminator-salvation-plot-questions-kofi-10690/comment-page-4/#comment-98879 Terminator Salvation (movie review) « The Rebelutionary Thu, 11 Jun 2009 04:19:42 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=10690#comment-98879 [...] the least amount of effort in explaining them on screen.  My two favorite sites that do this are here and [...]

[...] the least amount of effort in explaining them on screen.  My two favorite sites that do this are here and [...]

]]> By: Ken J http://screenrant.com/mcg-asnwers-some-terminator-salvation-plot-questions-kofi-10690/comment-page-4/#comment-97563 Ken J Sun, 07 Jun 2009 11:20:40 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=10690#comment-97563 @Robocod Actually, time travel isn't as simple as that. There are so many contradicting theories that it will never REALLY truly make sense. But one of them states that you can't change your own past. Meaning if you send someone or something back into the past, the changed outcome from that will be on a separate timeline. So therefor you won't notice any change at all. So forming the separate timeline would actually eliminate all of those space/time paradoxes you brought up about preventing your own actions because you'll only be preventing them in the current timeline, not in the one you were sent back from, so once you're sent back, that's it, it's done and cannot be changed. So only your future can be changed, not your past. @Robocod

Actually, time travel isn’t as simple as that. There are so many contradicting theories that it will never REALLY truly make sense. But one of them states that you can’t change your own past. Meaning if you send someone or something back into the past, the changed outcome from that will be on a separate timeline. So therefor you won’t notice any change at all. So forming the separate timeline would actually eliminate all of those space/time paradoxes you brought up about preventing your own actions because you’ll only be preventing them in the current timeline, not in the one you were sent back from, so once you’re sent back, that’s it, it’s done and cannot be changed. So only your future can be changed, not your past.

]]> By: Robocod http://screenrant.com/mcg-asnwers-some-terminator-salvation-plot-questions-kofi-10690/comment-page-4/#comment-97125 Robocod Fri, 05 Jun 2009 22:48:43 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=10690#comment-97125 Boy oh Boy，you think this Installment had Plot Holes?.....how about ....neither Skynet or John could exist without Kyle and the T-800 going back in the first movie, if the destroyed the Time Travel thingy like Kyle said and there was no mention of a T-1000 or a T-800 being sent to 1994, in the first movie then ....well...huh? especially in Sarah's monologue at the opening of T-2...Double Huh?...although this has since been proven false I remember at the time Thinking if at the Close of T-2 they had destroyed all future tech and Cyberdyne Systems have been blown up, Skynet doesnt get built, therefor Kyle doesnt travel back to 1984, therefor John shouldnt exist..How can the T-1000,T-X, John Henry, Cromarty's Head, Catherine Weaver ect. travel through time...and Nude to boot?....nothing inorganic can go through..If at the Close of T-3 John realizes that Fate is predestined and there is nothing he can do to prevent it, why in T Salvation is he trying to change the future...Huh????? NOW.....T-3....Well we know that everything has been delayed a couple of years compared to the previous timeline, so how can SkyNet jump the gun and develop a T-800 earlier than expected in T Salvation? Just a little point to show that the plot holes in this series have been present since the beginning. But most plot holes in T Salvation I can put down to SkyNet could see and hear what Marcus could.....he was bugged, therefor he heard Johns rant about his mother and father this series is full of holes...part of the fun is filling them in Boy oh Boy，you think this Installment had Plot Holes?…..how about ….neither Skynet or John could exist without Kyle and the T-800 going back in the first movie, if the destroyed the Time Travel thingy like Kyle said and there was no mention of a T-1000 or a T-800 being sent to 1994, in the first movie then ….well…huh? especially in Sarah’s monologue at the opening of T-2…Double Huh?…although this has since been proven false I remember at the time Thinking if at the Close of T-2 they had destroyed all future tech and Cyberdyne Systems have been blown up, Skynet doesnt get built, therefor Kyle doesnt travel back to 1984, therefor John shouldnt exist..How can the T-1000,T-X, John Henry, Cromarty’s Head, Catherine Weaver ect. travel through time…and Nude to boot?….nothing inorganic can go through..If at the Close of T-3 John realizes that Fate is predestined and there is nothing he can do to prevent it, why in T Salvation is he trying to change the future…Huh????? NOW…..T-3….Well we know that everything has been delayed a couple of years compared to the previous timeline, so how can SkyNet jump the gun and develop a T-800 earlier than expected in T Salvation?

Just a little point to show that the plot holes in this series have been present since the beginning.

But most plot holes in T Salvation I can put down to SkyNet could see and hear what Marcus could…..he was bugged, therefor he heard Johns rant about his mother and father

this series is full of holes…part of the fun is filling them in

]]> By: Jay http://screenrant.com/mcg-asnwers-some-terminator-salvation-plot-questions-kofi-10690/comment-page-4/#comment-96824 Jay Fri, 05 Jun 2009 02:21:51 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=10690#comment-96824 I think Star Trek is a good explanation of this film (/franchise). I think Star Trek is a good explanation of this film (/franchise).

]]> By: 790 http://screenrant.com/mcg-asnwers-some-terminator-salvation-plot-questions-kofi-10690/comment-page-4/#comment-96606 790 Thu, 04 Jun 2009 06:08:08 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=10690#comment-96606 Yeah Ken I've noticed a trend that seems to be focused with embedding new/nuisance programs in dvd/video games/home theatre equipment that forcibly promotes upgrading to full internet access. (Case in point, Tivo) ^ A lot of the high end Plasma tv's constantly seek a server proxy. Its a fricken marketing scam !!! Just another reason to stay with dvds. The T2 Extreme Special Edition always looks real good on my 26 inch digital tv... ;-) Yeah Ken I’ve noticed a trend that seems to be focused with embedding new/nuisance programs in dvd/video games/home theatre equipment that forcibly promotes upgrading to full internet access. (Case in point, Tivo)
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A lot of the high end Plasma tv’s constantly seek a server proxy. Its a fricken marketing scam !!!

Just another reason to stay with dvds. The T2 Extreme Special Edition always looks real good on my 26 inch digital tv… ;-)

]]> By: Ken J http://screenrant.com/mcg-asnwers-some-terminator-salvation-plot-questions-kofi-10690/comment-page-4/#comment-96598 Ken J Thu, 04 Jun 2009 05:27:34 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=10690#comment-96598 I don't want a refund, I want a copy that works. Those idiots at Lions Gate better do something right for once in their pathetic lives... I went online and saw that I wasn't the only one with the problem, that a lot of people have it. Most people have the problem where no internet connection caused it to crash, others, like myself, who have a bluray drive instead of a stand-alone player, said it wouldn't work either, even with internet connection... I'm gonna do more reading about it... I don’t want a refund, I want a copy that works. Those idiots at Lions Gate better do something right for once in their pathetic lives…

I went online and saw that I wasn’t the only one with the problem, that a lot of people have it. Most people have the problem where no internet connection caused it to crash, others, like myself, who have a bluray drive instead of a stand-alone player, said it wouldn’t work either, even with internet connection… I’m gonna do more reading about it…

]]> By: 790 http://screenrant.com/mcg-asnwers-some-terminator-salvation-plot-questions-kofi-10690/comment-page-4/#comment-96576 790 Thu, 04 Jun 2009 04:40:44 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=10690#comment-96576 Thanks for the heads up Ken,,, That's gotta suck hope you got a refund! Thanks for the heads up Ken,,,

That’s gotta suck hope you got a refund!

]]> By: Ken J http://screenrant.com/mcg-asnwers-some-terminator-salvation-plot-questions-kofi-10690/comment-page-4/#comment-96574 Ken J Thu, 04 Jun 2009 04:37:45 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=10690#comment-96574 @790, not sure if it was here that you asked, but about the skynet blu ray, don't buy it unless you try it on your player first, so find someone who has it... It doesn't run on every player, it was released by lions gate, they can't do anything right... @790, not sure if it was here that you asked, but about the skynet blu ray, don’t buy it unless you try it on your player first, so find someone who has it… It doesn’t run on every player, it was released by lions gate, they can’t do anything right…

]]> By: 790 http://screenrant.com/mcg-asnwers-some-terminator-salvation-plot-questions-kofi-10690/comment-page-4/#comment-96536 790 Thu, 04 Jun 2009 02:24:05 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=10690#comment-96536 Thanks for the site link Danny, very cool info. I wish they had used your character in T4. Thanks for the site link Danny, very cool info.

I wish they had used your character in T4.

]]> By: Danny Dyson http://screenrant.com/mcg-asnwers-some-terminator-salvation-plot-questions-kofi-10690/comment-page-4/#comment-96534 Danny Dyson Thu, 04 Jun 2009 02:14:23 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=10690#comment-96534 Du-Dum...Dum..Du-Dum Du-Dum...Dum..Du-Dum Du-Dum…Dum..Du-Dum
Du-Dum…Dum..Du-Dum

]]> By: Danny Dyson http://screenrant.com/mcg-asnwers-some-terminator-salvation-plot-questions-kofi-10690/comment-page-4/#comment-96526 Danny Dyson Thu, 04 Jun 2009 01:50:31 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=10690#comment-96526 Some great explainations here on the so called plotholes , if McG did do his research which I assume he did, his answer on Kyle Reece should have been clearer AND been made IN the film IMO... anyway I like to hear the different theories these holes throw up so its all good.. All the Terminator films leave these little 'anomalies'..I found that this site deals with them quite tidely... http://www.mjyoung.net/time/terminat.html It also offers a clean temporal resolution to the whole saga which I thought TTSCC came close to in a roundabout way.. I thought the film was excellent and im looking forward to the next couple where they will have to deal with the time travel issues properly.. Some great explainations here on the so called plotholes , if McG did do his research which I assume he did, his answer on Kyle Reece should have been clearer AND been made IN the film IMO…

anyway I like to hear the different theories these holes throw up so its all good..

All the Terminator films leave these little ‘anomalies’..I found that this site deals with them quite tidely…
http://www.mjyoung.net/time/terminat.html

It also offers a clean temporal resolution to the whole saga which I thought TTSCC came close to in a roundabout way..

I thought the film was excellent and im looking forward to the next couple where they will have to deal with the time travel issues properly..

]]> By: Ken J http://screenrant.com/mcg-asnwers-some-terminator-salvation-plot-questions-kofi-10690/comment-page-4/#comment-96115 Ken J Tue, 02 Jun 2009 22:53:15 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=10690#comment-96115 @Vic, oops, my mistake, lol. @Vic, oops, my mistake, lol.

]]> By: SkyNet http://screenrant.com/mcg-asnwers-some-terminator-salvation-plot-questions-kofi-10690/comment-page-4/#comment-96001 SkyNet Tue, 02 Jun 2009 18:01:13 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=10690#comment-96001 Begin transmission: ^ ^ ^ These comments are being transmitted from the future. Btw, Mr Holtreman, Screen Rant is key to my world takeover, so keep up the good work! ^ ^ ^ SK-47, you think Terminator Salvation had problems wait until you see the next two films based on me, SkyNet. ^ ^ ^ Peace out,,,lowly humans,,, ^ ^ ^ End Transmission: ^ Copyrite Microsoft 2029 Begin transmission:
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Btw, Mr Holtreman, Screen Rant is key to my world takeover, so keep up the good work!
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SK-47, you think Terminator Salvation had problems wait until you see the next two films based on me, SkyNet.
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Peace out,,,lowly humans,,,
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]]> By: Vic Holtreman http://screenrant.com/mcg-asnwers-some-terminator-salvation-plot-questions-kofi-10690/comment-page-4/#comment-95960 Vic Holtreman Tue, 02 Jun 2009 16:13:59 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=10690#comment-95960 @Ken J Actually it should be "End of Line." :-P Vic @Ken J

Actually it should be “End of Line.”

:-P

Vic

]]> By: SK-47 http://screenrant.com/mcg-asnwers-some-terminator-salvation-plot-questions-kofi-10690/comment-page-4/#comment-95939 SK-47 Tue, 02 Jun 2009 14:41:04 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=10690#comment-95939 DIR. COMMAND FDISK/QUES. >SkyNet, question needing of binary answer input. >With Kyle Reese in possesion does one- FDISK/CHOICE >Use Reese as bait for future leader of resistance-ANSW.0 >Kill Reese erasing future leader of resistance-ANSW.1 >Await reply. EXIT. DIR.
COMMAND
FDISK/QUES.

>SkyNet, question needing of binary answer input.
>With Kyle Reese in possesion does one-
FDISK/CHOICE
>Use Reese as bait for future leader of resistance-ANSW.0
>Kill Reese erasing future leader of resistance-ANSW.1
>Await reply.

EXIT.

]]> By: SkyNet http://screenrant.com/mcg-asnwers-some-terminator-salvation-plot-questions-kofi-10690/comment-page-4/#comment-95874 SkyNet Tue, 02 Jun 2009 04:23:14 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=10690#comment-95874 ^ LOL Ken J, where are you ? ^ ^ ^ End Transmission: ^ ^ ^ Copyrite Microsoft 2029 ^
LOL Ken J, where are you ?
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]]> By: Ken J http://screenrant.com/mcg-asnwers-some-terminator-salvation-plot-questions-kofi-10690/comment-page-4/#comment-95873 Ken J Tue, 02 Jun 2009 04:17:52 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=10690#comment-95873 It should be "End Line" not End Transmission, lol. It should be “End Line” not End Transmission, lol.

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