Matt Damon Asked Jonathan Nolan To Help With ‘Bourne 4′; Talks ‘Bourne 5′

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When we spoke with Matt Damon this summer at Comic-Con, he expressed his love of of his Bourne Legacy replacement Jeremy Renner as an actor, and said that he and director Paul Greengrass (The Bourne Supremacy, The Bourne Ultimatum) had been mulling over the idea of returning to the series on the one condition that they had a worthwhile story to tell.

This was (and still is) producer Frank Marshall’s dream, to have him and Renner team-up and see their characters work together on screen for Bourne 5. For Damon however, he’s much more doubtful.

With The Bourne Legacy now in existence, Damon feels the continuity may be difficult to retain (especially the ‘pill popping’ plot) going forward, and more importantly, he’s unsure of what stories about Bourne and his identity are left to tell. In Damon’s opinion, Jason Bourne isn’t a character who’d team up with someone so fitting together his and Renner’s Aaron Cross characters – as much as he praises Renner – is more difficult than it seems.

Jeremy Renner Cross Bourne Legacy Matt Damon Asked Jonathan Nolan To Help With Bourne 4; Talks Bourne 5

In chatting with Deadline for the upcoming Promised Land, Damon reiterated that The Bourne Legacy makes it more difficult for the Jason Bourne character to return. What would it take to see Bourne on screen in the films named after him?

“Just a couple things, really. Paul Greengrass has to want to do it, and secondly and equally important, it comes down to Paul and I knowing what the hell we want to do. We just don’t have a story, and we haven’t had one. I quietly went to Jonah Nolan, because he and his brother Chris did such a brilliant job on Batman and that whole mythology. I just said, can you put your brain on this? I can’t figure it out. And he took a run at it and he couldn’t crack it either. Paul and I have been talking about it for years. And we can’t quite see what the movie would be. If we could get line of sight on that…”

Not even Jonathan Nolan could come up with a Bourne story that satisfied Damon, but that doesn’t mean it’s never going to happen. If it does, Paul Greengrass will likely need to be back in the director’s chair.

“Neither of us is against it. I would love to do another one. I love that character. To me, the reason to make that movie is because people want to see it. Paul and I have said that to each other. We don’t take for granted the fact that we’ve built an audience for Bourne, that’s a real privilege. But our part of that bargain is that the movie is good and belongs with the other three. Until we can deliver that, we just can’t make it.”

To compare worldwide success:

  • The Bourne Identity: $214,034,224
  • The Bourne Supremacy: $288,500,217
  • The Bourne Ultimatum: $442,824,138
  • The Bourne Legacy: $276,144,750

Not only did The Bourne Legacy take a significant dip at the box office, but it was the only film of the four to not get above 80% on Rotten Tomatoes, instead earning quite a bit of negative buzz with a 56%. By comparison, Paul Greengrass’ & Matt Damon’s last Bourne (Ultimatum) scored at 94%.

Understandably, Damon’s feelings towards the franchise in its new direction are mixed at best, but Universal Pictures is moving ahead with more Bourne films, with or without Damon. For fans, having the two protagonists come together for another Bourne thriller would be the ultimate payoff, and for the studio, that’d bring with it the biggest payoff at the box office as well.

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Source: Deadline

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  1. Damon and Renner teaming up, would be cool.

    • It would, and I would be first in line to see that movie.
      Hopefully they can sort things out and work out a good story to tell.

      • I’m with you guys all the way

      • Samesies!

    • Not only would Damon and Rennier be cool but it would be hard to tie storeys together. so i was thinking. Follow Jeremy Renner ( Aaron Cross) and Racheal weisz ( Dr. Martha Shearing) for the next Bourne movie. Then throw a curve ball at the Bourne Fans bring Damon (Jason Bourne) back for Bourne 6, to go after Aaron Cross for what ever reason. Then in Bourne 7 could reveal his training days or military days as if his memory comes back.

  2. A lot of respect for him after reading this.

  3. It would probably end up looking like a buddy cop movie. No thank you.

    • Exactly.

  4. I think they should look at the books for inspiration. in one of them, bourne is a college professor and barely survives an assassination attempt so he comes out of hiding to find out who and why they want him dead. they could do something like this to bring him back.

    It would be cool to see bourne and jeremy’s characters fight before they realize they are on the same side.

    • I second this! Like a Mr. and Mrs. Smith sort of thing. I love Matt, I love Bourne, and Legacy wasn’t bad. I enjoyed it. I think they can easily work it into the mythos if they include the Doctor, and hav Byer possibly pit the two against one another. Byer can make it look like the head of all extermination ops for the Outcome agents are orchestrated by Bourne, and when Cross comes for him, Bourne has no clue who he is, and he tries to find his way through LARX to find Cross and find out what the hell is going on, with Cross believing the entire time that Bourne is only killing off assets again. Then they eventually team up during the finale, and escape together, setting up the sixth one where they go after Byer.

    • I’m reading that one right now! lol.

      • That is the real Bourne Legacy if Im not mistaken right?

  5. Jason bourne works alone. Period.

    • Nope. He does, but doesnt. In the movies he teamed up with people, but only because it would benifit him.

  6. The latest Bond spent the money and time to get a good script, do rewrites, and hired a great director and it paid off. Damon’s right not to do it on the cheap. As a fan, I appreciate it.

  7. i get that hes weary of coming in due to the continuity of the “pills” had never been around in damons movies, but it really wouldnt be THAT hard to explain it lol, maby damon was the 1st agent to be “viralled out” like jeremy’s character was in the movie, it would be an easy explanation since he doesnt remember alot of who he is to not have known about the pills

  8. i fell asleep in Bourne Legacy. It was that wack

  9. Why couldn’t the plot center on two divergent story arcs that come together at the end, with both the operatives (Renner and Damon) meeting up to take out the antagonist?

    That way both could be seen to be working ‘alone’ throughout the movie, with a kick-ass dual action sequence at the end.

    Doesn’t seem that tough to me.

    You could even start it off with an assassination attempt on Cross, with the badguys closing in, and at the last minute you realize they’re targeting Bourne (by mistake), which drags Bourne back into the mix.
    Bourne chasing backwards from the failed assassination attempt, and Cross driving from the front end (undefined at this point.)

    I’d pay good money to see that!

    • Seconded

    • I’m with you. That’s the movie I want to see!

    • I was also thinking that as I started writing my long idea somewhere on this page. I think this would also work.

  10. I really hope they come with up a right script. If everything works out and this movie actually happens, it could save the Bourne series (I was beyond pissed sitting in the theater seeing the Bourne Legacy)

    In Nolan We Trust

  11. I give Damon credit for realizing two things: 1) Realizing that many people would want him to reprise Bourbe and 2) Realizing that its be a diservice to us if they don’t get the story right and just mail it in.

  12. But why didn’t Damon just not return for the fourth installment in the first place? It’s not like he’s experience wall to wall box office success outside the Bourne or Oceans movies now is it?

    • There wasn’t a good enough script.

  13. Maybe set it up several years after the end of the latest ones when someone else tries to start up some secret super duper agent program which gets Bourne or Cross out of retirement to prevent the same atrocities happening again except in the FUUUTUUURE!

  14. I would love to see a Damon and Renner Bourne film and I think a boat load of fans would also but I’ve come to accept that it’s not going to happen…
    Also IMO you’ve gotta respect Damon’s stance on this. I’m sure the studio would throw the bank at him to play Bourne again but the fact that he won’t do it if the story isn’t right is pretty rare in Hollywood…

    • I second this. It is rare.

  15. While it’d be great to have Matt Damon back, I for one still want to see Aaron Cross (Renner’s) storyline continues. I believe The Bourne Legacy is the first part of the second Bourne trilogy. Have it concludes tightly in the third part with Jason Bourne show up cleaning up the mess teaming up with Aaron Cross.

    Matt Damon showing up too early in #4 will mess up the story with Cross for sure, and of course making the Cross character himself a moot point. Jeremy Renner will be overshadowed by Damon in this case, and the character build up in Legacy would be for nothing. Some fans may rejoice, but the point of Bourne Legacy is to start fresh with new storyline with the original trilogy as the backdrop. If they just switch to Bourne (Damon) again in the next film, one would wonder why they bother cast Renner even hyped him to take over the franchise in the first place.

    • Typo: #5, not #4. Sorry.

    • Why have the later Bourne movies if Bourne himself isnt even going to be in it. They cant keep borrowing the Bourne tittle without people saying just call it something else if Jason isnt going to be in it.

  16. Someone close to Cross gets assassinated. Its a crime only he can solve. Further into his investigation, all signs point to Bourne.
    At the other end, the exact same thing happens to Bourne: assassination, puzzle only he can solve, and the breadcrumbs lead to cross.
    Both men tracking each other, before going toe to toe.
    The villian is intellectually superior to them, but inferior on a physical level. Majority of the film is these two unknowingly after each other…

    • This would be a good idea to. Like I was saying on the bottom, what if David Webb had a family, Outcome could kiddnap or kill his wife, or Nicky Parsons if he doesnt have a family. And for Cross, Dr Marta could be kiddnaped or killed. Like what happened to Bourne’s wife in Supremacy. Then they would meet, and of course we wanna know who will win between the two. After they figure out it was Outcome that did all that, it would introduce the Pill popping, and Operation Outcome to Jason. And again what if Cross had two pills left and gave them to Bourne.

  17. the bourne batman nolan extravaganza!! yeah I love that they’re not sacrificing quality for quantity.. too many movie franchises keep making sucky movies just because the compensation in the box office makes it worth it. Needless to say I’m not seeing pirates 5.

  18. I’m not much of a writer, but in Bourne Ultimatum I’m not sure if it ever revealed if he remembered who he was before Jason. All it showed in the movie was that he remembered that he volunteered, doesnt mean he knows who David Webb was, what if he had a family, wife maybe. If not that then do something with Nicky Parsons, she had to go into hiding. what if Outcome find her, put her in danger, so David has to become Bourne Again. That will make the potential for jason to meet Cross, which will introduce outcome to Bourne, and the pill popping. maybe Cross has two left over and Bourne takes them.

  19. Bourne 5 will be in the Top 10 movie of 2013 or 2014.

    cross meeting bourne will be EPIC !

  20. Well, here’s a story. Legacy can just be considered a spin off meaning that it was just showing one of the people who were in the program same as Bourne. Go onto Bourne 5, ignore Legacy, just continue Bourne’s story. Then maybe Bourne 6 will show Aaron Cross teaming up with Bourne or someone else who was also in the program. Matt Damon admitted that Bourne works by himself, so unlikely there won’t be a Renner and Damon team up. Well hope my idea helps ( which Matt Damon and Paul Greengrass will never read ever in my life).


  21. We all know that Jason does not have to pair off but there is a story to be tell. Let’s hear the story and how the government uses all of the resources available to obtain . . . . . Yes what ever their looking for.

  22. hi, matt daamon, please i really want to see you back in the next bourne series movie. because i think that there is no who can play a role of bourne except you. so thats why you have to do this role again. i really want to see you in action again. because bourne is my favourite action movie series. hope you think seriously about my free of cast opinion. take care and bye.
    Roshan Khan