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Iron Knight says:

@ Ken J, Manowar & Daniel F

I too had very minor problems with both films, especially near the end of them. I do think Stane was a very weak villain in Iron Man, compared to the Joker, or even Two-Face.
About TDK, I sometimes think the last scene was a little long, but neccesary in the end.
My theory about Two-Face’s final scene and death is that Nolan wanted to really contrast between heroes and anti-heroes, or vigilantes or whatever they could be called. He didn’t want it to be like Spider-Man where evreybody got to love that superhero. So, by blaming himself for everything Dent did, Batman could keep being hated by Gotham, and therefore showing some sort of “sacrifice”, and staying with the dark tone of the films…

But, hey, that’s just my thoughts…

Ken J says:

@Daniel

I thought the Joker escape scene was a HUGE flaw. That scene was very dumb. First of all, why would they guard THE JOKER, the guy that has caused all of this panic, all of this crazy stuff, the murders, etc, with one unarmed guy INSIDE the interrogation room?? Too convenient isn’t it? Why didn’t any of the cops shoot The Joker when he was holding that cop as a human shield? He wasn’t even shielding himself, his head was completely exposed. Even the dumbest criminal given that opportunity will put his head BEHIND the hostage’s head, not NEXT to it like they always do in movies. Those cops were well within a yard or 2 from them, getting a headshot at that distance is CAKE. I would have been like “phone call? Here’s your phone call… to hell…” *BAM* and it would have been over…

That whole scene seemed WAY too convenient, like they intended to let him escape.

Daniel F says:

They had an unarmed man guarding him because of all the panic and because of his craftiness. They didn’t want to take the risk. The Joker appeared to have no interest in escaping mearly just wanting to play games. Not to mention they didn’t need 50 guards in one little room when they had a crap ton of armed cops outside of that room and there was no need to put them in the cramped room.

They didn’t shoot because they were afraid he may still have information that they need. Also I’m pretty sure they were instructed that if at all possible avoid shooting him. They were trying to send a message to the criminal underworld and use the Joker as an example. By putting him on trial and letting him get his justice. Also fairly likely that they were not comfortable taking that shot. One reflexes from being shot could still cut the cops throat and two maybe they didn’t want to risk missing. Even if they were close they were nervous and could merely graze him or even just miss.

Ken J says:

Daniel, the point is not why he’s unarmed, the point is why he was INSIDE the room. Wouldn’t logic say to guard OUTSIDE the LOCKED door of the interrogation room??? Why would you keep a door unlocked and someone inside the room?? That provides a hostage and an escape all in one. Not at all convenient huh??

And I’m sorry, try as you may, the reasoning don’t hold up, if someone has a cutting instrument held to the neck of a fellow cop, you’re going to shoot him in the head if you have the chance. If someone had your best friend like that and you had a clear shot of him, are you going to be concerned over whether or not the offender has information you might need?? Yes, cops often do consider each other friends… Surprising, I know. And also convenient that the explosion kills everyone in the room except The Joker. Must be a “smart bomb” with “smart shrapnel” lol.

I’m sorry, but that scene is one of the weakest parts of that entire movie. I was literally laughing out loud in the theater in that scene, and so were two of my friends. The others didn’t really notice these things until after the movie, I brought it up and it was one of those “wow, didn’t realize that, that’s so true!” moments for them.

DARKIRONPOTTER says:

Iron Man is an achievement, because it’s an decent action flick but when you go deep into it, there’s so many aspects that makes it a true achiever (special effects,performances, the terrorism and how Tony deals with it, a great message, and more).

Daniel F says:

Ken J I agree with you about the bomb I always wondered that my self though It didn’t really bug me. 99% of all movies especially action ones have stuff like that most people shrug it off. As far as the not shutting thing though to me it makes sense. The absolute truth is with a knife to someone’s throat there is never a 100% clear shot and as you said cops consider each other friends. Do you really want to be the reason your friend had his throat cut. I also didn’t see a problem with one cop staying in the room with him.

Ken J says:

That’s like keeping prison guards inside prison cells with the prisoners. The highest security prisons (super max’s) have it so that guards and prisoners make as little contact as possible. They usually have like a separate catwalk area to supervise them, they have watchtowers and central isolated control centers where they can see the prisoners but they can’t get to them, etc… I know it was done for the sake of allowing for the plot to proceed, but when for most of the movie up until that point Nolan was able to find pretty crafty and creative ways to move the story forward, that scene seemed very sloppy and everything seemed far too convenient to allow for that to happen…

Nick says:

I think the difference is that this was a police station where the Joker was being held as for questioning and in many places prisoners must be watched to ensure that they don’t harm themselves prior to being arraigned. They weren’t in a prison setting and as for the explosion since the Joker was expecting it I can see him preparing for it to come while everyone else is held unaware while not the most authentic in plot points it holds up under scrutiny.

Ken J says:

Uh, I don’t know what police stations you’ve been to, but just because it’s not a prison, they are just as security conscious. The CONCEPT of WHY you don’t keep correctional officers inside prison cells apply to anyhwere an arestee, detainee, or prisoner is involved. The same concept is applied to jail cells, interview rooms, etc. You keep the door locked so the person within it cannot simply walk out, and you keep it supervised from the outside.

And second, what can you really do to “get ready” for an explosion? Tighten your butt cheeks?

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